Lucky for Iraq they finally went and said it; they're sick of our occupation. How ridiculous it was of us to think what we were doing over there was right. Boy, I feel safer.
The propoganda veteran from vets from veteran can only spit out the admin lines over and over. The Iraq gov is saying get the hell out. Now, what do we do? They have no answer. OBAMA for PREZ!!!
We invaded a country that had invaded two other countries and committed genocide on her own people. Congress authorized it. Just because you don't agree with it does not make it a war crime. I am proud to have served in Operation Iraqi Freedom and always will be.
Congress authorized NOTHING. Congress has the constitutional duty to declare war, but it ceded that responsibility to the President.
Gutless, shameful, and ILLEGAL. Saddam committed genocide with WESTERN WEAPONS. The war was premised on lies, and continues because of resentment for our military presence.
Blowback is a bitch. Interventionism doesn't work, and speeds up the bankruptcy of the nation.
You excuse genocide and therefore have lost your argument and lost it badly. Sorry, but you are the one who appears gutless and shameful. Those of us who have served there will not be silenced by people like you.
And you ignore the fact that U.S. intervention gave Saddam the power that he had and the weapons that he used.
I excuse nothing. I condemn genocide just as much as anyone, but I don't believe you should be able to FORCE me to assent to using my tax dollars to intervene, or share the burden of resentment that would flow from our actions.
So you served? Too bad you have no idea what the oath you swore means, or what a free country truly is.
Iraq is not ready to stand alone. Don't be confused like Chris Matthews. The Iraqi's will want a time-table for our withdrawal starting only after the conditions of irreversable stability are attained.
The Iraqi people deserve our help. We have a moral responsibility to help them. Our troops are magnificent and noble and there to finish the job.
The rest of you who can't qualify to be in the military are expected to pay your taxes and be good citizens.
Bush said we'd leave if/when they asked us to. They have. We should leave. The only "moral responsibility" we have is to repair what we destroyed. This has nothing to do w/ our troops. Iraq didn't ask us to invade. Iraqis lives were bad under Saddam. But we sure as hell haven't made their lives any better. We've been asked to leave. We should leave.
mmmm413, just like Matthews, you are misreading and misquoting what Maliki said and the political situation in Iraq. They have not asked us to leave. They may in the future. When they do, we should leave. Then it is the Iraqi's decision, not the arbitrary decision of someone like Obama who doesn't know squat about Iraq and hasn't been there in over two years and who has never consulted with the most knowledgeable American on Iraq...General Petreus.
Let me put this as clear as I can. We don't belong in Iraq. We never have. We invaded a country that had done nothing to us. In international law, that's a war crime. Under this mal-Administration, we have become a rogue nation. Doesn't matter what Obama or McCain wants. We invaded & occupied a nation that never did anything to us. THAT IS A WAR CRIME! Petreaus says what he's told to say. Just like the US attorneys who were fired, I wonder about the ones who weren't.
Apparently Drafting Young Republicans is the only way to end this war.
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Just draft members of Congress' sons and daughters and the war will end yesterday.
I wonder if, when Obama is elected, we will start seeing those coffins arrive and even older footage of coffins arriving. That will be a different dynamic.
Apparently Drafting Young Republicans is the only way to end this war.
as even when the Iraqi government asks to leave like the bush administration, and McSame insisted we wait for. now they have asked and the republicans don't know how to spin it to stay.
Our Soldiers are making it worse and they want out. We don't want any more wars with
Iran, Israel, and definitely China.
It's our fault that we elected this loon [Bush] as our President and have him to wage war just to get Hussein out of power, and we succeeded, now he had to make it worse to have our troops staying in Iraq to keep it that way. So therefore, it up to us, the voters to elect someone that'll get those troops out of Iraq and focus on making peace with Iran and Israel.
I am totally pissed off at the behavior of Matthews and how he badgered and attacked Hegseth and how Matthews totally misrepresented what is going on. Shame on you Mr. Matthews. Why were you shouting at Hegseth? Because you don't like the fact that things are turning around in Iraq.
Yeah, and all it cost us is 2 trillion dollars, 4,000 dead American soldiers, 500,000 dead Iraqis, gas at $4.50, worthless dollar and our kids kids will pay the bill. I starting to think republicans are completely devoid of critical thinking.......10 years ago Bin Laden said he wanted gas at $144 a barell,(Google It), Guess where what we are there....So who really won? PLEASE DO NOT VOTE THIS YEAR! OUR COUNTRY CANNOT AFFORD YOUR STUPIDITY!
Not only am I going to vote for McCain, but I am going to help raise alot of money to help defeat people who the left supports and who want peace at any cost.
If you are old enough or young enough to enlist in the military, you should do so immediately and help protect this great country.
The left isn't the only group that wants us out of Iraq. The IRAQIS want us out of Iraq. "Peace at any cost"? Iraq never attacked us, wasn't a threat. So please, tell me who wants peace at any cost. AQI didn't exist until we invaded/occupied a sovereign nation. Raise money for Grandpa Simpson. He's not going to win. Also GWB has always said we'd leave when the Iraqis asked. They've asked.
Look, i'm a big Mathews fan for years now but lets face it, Pete Hegseth ripped Chris a new one on this debate....YOU MUST ANSWER, YOU MUST ANSWER, DUHHH...Chris.. how about.. YOU MUST FUC***G LISTEN. I think Chris is getting old...Jesus, I voted for Obama but lets be objective for gods sake. We're winning the war. Lets get on to the economy.
Our foreign adventurism is half the reason the economy is spiraling down. The other half is domestic spending. Both lead to mis-reported inflation, mal-investment, transfer of wealth from people's savings, and wages that don't keep pace with rising prices.
They distract you with the oil bullshit, but have you looked at your grocery bill and electricity bill lately?
INFLATION = printing money out of thin air = destruction of the middle class
Yes, no kidding, I read that essay to. That's exactly what this guy Pete was saying about the comments from the Iraqi President. But besides that, I was just commenting on Chris since I am a fan. I just thought he did not do very well in that debate. To your point, when this war is done, there will be another and another. I agree, no matter who is President.
Did you see the clip videocafeblog himself uploaded just the other day with Chris Matthews saying the surge is working? He's pretty indecisive on the war in Iraq. I'd hardly call him a "liberal pinhead".
agree. Chris is one of the more objective personalities on TV. If anything, he has a tendency to simply take the position opposite of his guests - for the sake of creating an interesting discussion.
The true fact is we are invaders and there illegally. They never poised a threat to us and actually kept the terrorist in that region under control.Can you say FUBAR or SNAFU!
He can't even define what "finishing the job" means. All the republicans do is throw their bullsh1t slogans around. Nobody is listening it to anymore. Including the Iraqi Government. It's time to leave Iraq and focus on the real War on Terror in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
Democrats don't do the same thing? If you buy into the "War on Terror" then you've been sucked into the interventionists trap. Do you have any conception of what blowback is and what the real reasons for American resentment are in the Middle East?
Here's a bullshit slogan for you: Change. Which somehow means the status quo in foreign interventionism, bloated federal government, the federal reserve/income tax, and others.
Obama: in FAVOR of U.S. presence in Iraq, just not "combat" troops
3raqi people want ALL troops out of their country.....no wars for Israel!!!!!
poinset333 2 years ago
Chris, what do you care what these two think, neither one can get troops in or out of Iraq.
bikerwithaheart 3 years ago
Lucky for Iraq they finally went and said it; they're sick of our occupation. How ridiculous it was of us to think what we were doing over there was right. Boy, I feel safer.
cyrone0us 3 years ago
that was just hard to watch, chris mathews needs to show more respect to his guests, his outspoken ways can be kind of hard to watch at times.
thizzcake 3 years ago
How can the nazi fascist U.S of ameriKKKa CONTROL and PROFITTING from the Iraqi OIL without the nazi U.S's military bases there.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 3 years ago
The propoganda veteran from vets from veteran can only spit out the admin lines over and over. The Iraq gov is saying get the hell out. Now, what do we do? They have no answer. OBAMA for PREZ!!!
queendavey 3 years ago
We invaded a country that had invaded two other countries and committed genocide on her own people. Congress authorized it. Just because you don't agree with it does not make it a war crime. I am proud to have served in Operation Iraqi Freedom and always will be.
ProFreedomForAll 3 years ago
Congress authorized NOTHING. Congress has the constitutional duty to declare war, but it ceded that responsibility to the President.
Gutless, shameful, and ILLEGAL. Saddam committed genocide with WESTERN WEAPONS. The war was premised on lies, and continues because of resentment for our military presence.
Blowback is a bitch. Interventionism doesn't work, and speeds up the bankruptcy of the nation.
immanent 3 years ago
You excuse genocide and therefore have lost your argument and lost it badly. Sorry, but you are the one who appears gutless and shameful. Those of us who have served there will not be silenced by people like you.
ProFreedomForAll 3 years ago
And you ignore the fact that U.S. intervention gave Saddam the power that he had and the weapons that he used.
I excuse nothing. I condemn genocide just as much as anyone, but I don't believe you should be able to FORCE me to assent to using my tax dollars to intervene, or share the burden of resentment that would flow from our actions.
So you served? Too bad you have no idea what the oath you swore means, or what a free country truly is.
immanent 3 years ago
We got rid of Saddam, they've had elections. That was the pretext we went in on (other than WMD, 9/11, etc.). So why are we still there? Insanity.
mmm413 3 years ago
Iraq is not ready to stand alone. Don't be confused like Chris Matthews. The Iraqi's will want a time-table for our withdrawal starting only after the conditions of irreversable stability are attained.
The Iraqi people deserve our help. We have a moral responsibility to help them. Our troops are magnificent and noble and there to finish the job.
The rest of you who can't qualify to be in the military are expected to pay your taxes and be good citizens.
ProFreedomForAll 3 years ago
Bush said we'd leave if/when they asked us to. They have. We should leave. The only "moral responsibility" we have is to repair what we destroyed. This has nothing to do w/ our troops. Iraq didn't ask us to invade. Iraqis lives were bad under Saddam. But we sure as hell haven't made their lives any better. We've been asked to leave. We should leave.
mmm413 3 years ago
mmmm413, just like Matthews, you are misreading and misquoting what Maliki said and the political situation in Iraq. They have not asked us to leave. They may in the future. When they do, we should leave. Then it is the Iraqi's decision, not the arbitrary decision of someone like Obama who doesn't know squat about Iraq and hasn't been there in over two years and who has never consulted with the most knowledgeable American on Iraq...General Petreus.
ProFreedomForAll 3 years ago
Let me put this as clear as I can. We don't belong in Iraq. We never have. We invaded a country that had done nothing to us. In international law, that's a war crime. Under this mal-Administration, we have become a rogue nation. Doesn't matter what Obama or McCain wants. We invaded & occupied a nation that never did anything to us. THAT IS A WAR CRIME! Petreaus says what he's told to say. Just like the US attorneys who were fired, I wonder about the ones who weren't.
mmm413 3 years ago
AND further more YOU JACKASS----
OBAMA has said over and over again:
"We need to be as carfull getting out,
as George Bush AND the REPUBLICANS were as 'CARELESS' goin IN! YOU STUPID FUCK!
newjersi08 3 years ago
Hey stupid----the news is IRAQUI'S WANT
IVADORS OUT.
YOU ARE NOT IN THE MILITARY.
YOU ARE A JACKASS REPUBLICAN SHILL!
newjersi08 3 years ago
If we don't leave when Maliki asks, this is an occupation, not a "liberation." Pure & simple. It's not rocket science.
mmm413 3 years ago
Iraq wants us out. Bush always said we'll leave when they want us to. They want us to. Let's go.
mmm413 3 years ago
The NEOCON/PNAC wet dream Plan is dead in the water.
BushCo knows it and MCSame is just dragging its senile feet to the inevitable.
TPAUSA 3 years ago
If you are old enough or young enough to enlist in the military, you should do so immediately and help protect this great country.
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Sure! But why inlist to protect Haliburton and Exxon/Mobile?
Mmmmmmmbacon 3 years ago
Apparently Drafting Young Republicans is the only way to end this war.
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Just draft members of Congress' sons and daughters and the war will end yesterday.
I wonder if, when Obama is elected, we will start seeing those coffins arrive and even older footage of coffins arriving. That will be a different dynamic.
Mmmmmmmbacon 3 years ago
Apparently Drafting Young Republicans is the only way to end this war.
as even when the Iraqi government asks to leave like the bush administration, and McSame insisted we wait for. now they have asked and the republicans don't know how to spin it to stay.
Froward69 3 years ago
Our Soldiers are making it worse and they want out. We don't want any more wars with
Iran, Israel, and definitely China.
It's our fault that we elected this loon [Bush] as our President and have him to wage war just to get Hussein out of power, and we succeeded, now he had to make it worse to have our troops staying in Iraq to keep it that way. So therefore, it up to us, the voters to elect someone that'll get those troops out of Iraq and focus on making peace with Iran and Israel.
BKDevious 3 years ago
I am totally pissed off at the behavior of Matthews and how he badgered and attacked Hegseth and how Matthews totally misrepresented what is going on. Shame on you Mr. Matthews. Why were you shouting at Hegseth? Because you don't like the fact that things are turning around in Iraq.
Support Hegseth and the Vets for Freedom.
ProFreedomForAll 3 years ago
Yeah, and all it cost us is 2 trillion dollars, 4,000 dead American soldiers, 500,000 dead Iraqis, gas at $4.50, worthless dollar and our kids kids will pay the bill. I starting to think republicans are completely devoid of critical thinking.......10 years ago Bin Laden said he wanted gas at $144 a barell,(Google It), Guess where what we are there....So who really won? PLEASE DO NOT VOTE THIS YEAR! OUR COUNTRY CANNOT AFFORD YOUR STUPIDITY!
beatbaker 3 years ago
Not only am I going to vote for McCain, but I am going to help raise alot of money to help defeat people who the left supports and who want peace at any cost.
If you are old enough or young enough to enlist in the military, you should do so immediately and help protect this great country.
ProFreedomForAll 3 years ago
The left isn't the only group that wants us out of Iraq. The IRAQIS want us out of Iraq. "Peace at any cost"? Iraq never attacked us, wasn't a threat. So please, tell me who wants peace at any cost. AQI didn't exist until we invaded/occupied a sovereign nation. Raise money for Grandpa Simpson. He's not going to win. Also GWB has always said we'd leave when the Iraqis asked. They've asked.
mmm413 3 years ago
"It's a government that we elected"
What? I thought that the Iraqi people elected this government.. right? ... right?
No it's a government that you installed.
salo78a 3 years ago
Look, i'm a big Mathews fan for years now but lets face it, Pete Hegseth ripped Chris a new one on this debate....YOU MUST ANSWER, YOU MUST ANSWER, DUHHH...Chris.. how about.. YOU MUST FUC***G LISTEN. I think Chris is getting old...Jesus, I voted for Obama but lets be objective for gods sake. We're winning the war. Lets get on to the economy.
ohblade2001 3 years ago
"War is the health of the state."
Our foreign adventurism is half the reason the economy is spiraling down. The other half is domestic spending. Both lead to mis-reported inflation, mal-investment, transfer of wealth from people's savings, and wages that don't keep pace with rising prices.
They distract you with the oil bullshit, but have you looked at your grocery bill and electricity bill lately?
INFLATION = printing money out of thin air = destruction of the middle class
immanent 3 years ago
Yes, no kidding, I read that essay to. That's exactly what this guy Pete was saying about the comments from the Iraqi President. But besides that, I was just commenting on Chris since I am a fan. I just thought he did not do very well in that debate. To your point, when this war is done, there will be another and another. I agree, no matter who is President.
ohblade2001 3 years ago
If somebody comes to your house...you dont like him and tell him to leave....he doesnt...what do you do.
suave286 3 years ago
brilliant,
Now the Bush admin will have to show its true colors;
respect democracy or be an occupier!
janpauwels 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Chris Matthews is a liberal pinhead timetable timetable timetable... shut the fook up
realgunslinger 3 years ago
Then don't watch
gobigorange99 3 years ago
Did you see the clip videocafeblog himself uploaded just the other day with Chris Matthews saying the surge is working? He's pretty indecisive on the war in Iraq. I'd hardly call him a "liberal pinhead".
ManhunterFromMars 3 years ago
agree. Chris is one of the more objective personalities on TV. If anything, he has a tendency to simply take the position opposite of his guests - for the sake of creating an interesting discussion.
observer855 3 years ago 2
apparently the iraqi government are liberal pinheads too.
driubi 3 years ago
The true fact is we are invaders and there illegally. They never poised a threat to us and actually kept the terrorist in that region under control.Can you say FUBAR or SNAFU!
bludrums 3 years ago 4
I can get them out in 3 weeks
ubuibiok 3 years ago 3
He can't even define what "finishing the job" means. All the republicans do is throw their bullsh1t slogans around. Nobody is listening it to anymore. Including the Iraqi Government. It's time to leave Iraq and focus on the real War on Terror in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
mworwell 3 years ago 8
Democrats don't do the same thing? If you buy into the "War on Terror" then you've been sucked into the interventionists trap. Do you have any conception of what blowback is and what the real reasons for American resentment are in the Middle East?
Here's a bullshit slogan for you: Change. Which somehow means the status quo in foreign interventionism, bloated federal government, the federal reserve/income tax, and others.
Obama: in FAVOR of U.S. presence in Iraq, just not "combat" troops
immanent 3 years ago
They are asking us to leave, we need to leave.
Period.
bennygale 3 years ago 8
This "vets for freedom" guy is everywhere lately...he's obviously a robot
zndprophet 3 years ago 6
He's probably the only one of the Vets for Freedom who looks the part enough to go on camera.
Wendy62 3 years ago