Polish Radom M-44 Mosin Nagant Carbine

[joey3847]

I Like the vid, very nice condition. I just ID my Dad’s 1953 Polish M 44 for him last night (he inherited it and had no idea what it was). The only mystery now is what it is chambered for. My first reaction was the 7.62 X 54 R however I have read that some of these gun’s may have been chambered in a larger 7.92 X 57 Mauser cartridge. Is this true or were all Polish M 44 carbines chambered in 7.62 X 54 R originally?

Thanks,

[314299]

@joey3847 No need to worry about the caliber as these were all chambered for the e 7.62x54R round. Polish 7.92x57 rifles were of the Mauser pattern.

[The762x39mm]

How's the accuracy of your M44 with milsurp,commercial and hanloaded ammo?

Thanks!

[314299]

@The762x39mm Pretty decent accuracy as the gun is in such good shape. I can't quote you any group sizes as it's been awhile since I shot it.

[The762x39mm]

The polish M44 are wonderful. Quality, fit and finish are purely superb! I have 2 unissued,unfired polish M44. I will use one but the other will remain unfired.

[314299]

@The762x39mm They are surely the best looking Mosin Nagant. I wish I had bought a few extra myself when they were commonly avaliable.

[fromfin90]

My dad has this gun, polish carbine M44

Only problem is, i am not that used to shooting(i'm 21, not been in the army, got freed since my hearing(deaf on one ear) and allergy(food))

It hurts my shoulder, i have barely any fat.

I don't know if i should start shooting more with it or start eating more(i've tried... doesn't help)

[314299]

@fromfin90 Get yourself a slip-on rubber recoil pad, those things do wonders in making recoil tolerable.

[fromfin90]

@314299

And without making extra holes i'd prefer, its my dads gun..

It's fun to shoot, maybe i'll do as you say, thank you, i shall start researching silicone stuff

[jerseyslicker]

they are nice im 49 years old 26 years ago in navy arms in new jersey they are long none they where 65 bucks each new  never fired i pick up 5 of them still to this day they have oil and wax paper on them i wish i got the hole box good luck

[314299]

@jerseyslicker That was a good investment!

[SoccerDJRob]

how much do one of these cost?

[314299]

@SoccerDJRob In like new condition I think you could expect to spend $350 to $400 for a Polish M-44.

[bigbassbosky]

yeah i got just like this one,fine rifle :D

[314299]

@bigbassbosky Congrats, you got yourself a fine rifle indeed.

[20thcenturyfilmdocs]

sure is a nice one!

[314299]

@20thcenturyfilmdocs Yep! Hard to beat appearance wise.

[Alexn1067]

the polish mosin nagants were built on the same machines that were used to make Mosin Nagants in Russia.

lol the poles were using outdated soviet technology while the Russians were using SKS' and AKs

[484442pt]

@Alexn1067

Poland started production of AK47 in 1957 while Mosin's still remained a important element of USSR inventory even in 60's and 70's.

[SoccerDJRob]

@Alexn1067 they had no choice COMMUNISM DUH

[koreanboyww2]

can you suggest some low recoil ammo and where to get some that would be a great help.

[314299]

@koreanboyww2 Any of the "light ball" type loads (147 to 150 grain) will give less recoil than loads with heavy (175 to 200 grain) bullets.

[DarkSk1es]

If you can't get a Finnish made Mosin then Polish made are the very next best choice. I have a 1951 made, unissued, all numbers matching, M44 and the quality is outstanding. It looks as if it were made only yesterday. Smooth action and locks up really tight with cock-on head spacing. Best £200 I ever spent.

[314299]

@DarkSk1es I have a few "Finnish" Mosin ans I like them a lot as well.

[WAQWBrentwood]

I have a Polish M44 from 1952. I wish mine was in 1/100th the condition of yours. Yours is ART. I usually tell people to avoid non Russian made Cold War guns (Esp Chinese), But most of the early post WWII Mosins seem to be best when built in Poland!

[314299]

@WAQWBrentwood The quality of the Polish M-44 doesn't fit the image of the typical communist block produced rifle.

[WAQWBrentwood]

@314299 Absolutley!.. They are as nice a piece as was ever issued to any troops. The Poles seemed to have put more "love" in to these than the Russians did.

The are fine shooters as well (If you can deal with a healthy "kick"!) I Know a lot of people are into '98 Mausers, But Mosin-Nagants and Lee-Enfields are my favorite military bolt actions!

[314299]

@WAQWBrentwood They are indeed fine shooters when fed quality ammunition. A friend of mine sent me a photo of a group he fired with his Polish M-44 with his cast bullet reloads - all shots were touching!

[ccsniper]

I got one in not so good condition

[314299]

@ccsniper There seem to be almost as many of the Polish rifles in unissued condition as there are in used shape, which is rather unusual.

[TheKodiak72]

Sweet rifle, Getting one soon. Just the AK, Russians make durable rugged guns to last! and use damn good calibers.

[314299]

@TheKodiak72 I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Just be sure to have good hearing protection!

[vgotnofingers]

What a beautiful weapon! You must love it man:)

[314299]

@vgotnofingers I do!

[grigorij1978]

yeah fantastic carbine like new,after 2 war in Radom produced many weapons ,polish mausers or Wis pistols,

[314299]

@grigorij1978 Yes the Polish produced Mausers and Radom pistols between the wars.

[Kalashboy762]

i saw one of these at the Hawaii gun show in my state. I passed it up. this video makes me regret that

[314299]

@Kalashboy762 If you want one I'm sure you will come across another, they are not terribly uncommon.

[Kalashboy762]

@314299 well i live in Hawaii and mosin nagants are hard to come by on this island. I check everywhere and only saw 2 mosin nagants. one russian 91/30 at a gun store and that was sold and a Polish m44 at a gun show.

[314299]

@Kalashboy762 That's strange, I wonder why they are uncommon in Hawaii?

[Kalashboy762]

@314299 well i guess it's because there's not a lot of interest in them. Most people in hawaii have AR-15's and i believe people here are tactical people. Tactical guns sell like hotcakes around here.

[314299]

@Kalashboy762 Most of the time the low price of surplus rifles makes them popular.

[Kalashboy762]

@314299 but in hawaii there's not a lot of people selling surplus arms.

[dhruvluke]

this is so much quieter on film than it is in reality.

[314299]

@dhruvluke Actually it's the reduced load ammunition that I'm shooting that makes this quieter than you would expect - believe me, with full power stuff it's a real boomer!

[dhruvluke]

@314299 ah I see. and yes, either the earmuffs I was using were really cheap, or the full load rounds are very loud! (both I assume)

[314299]

@dhruvluke Oh, full power rounds are very loud!

[lightness414]

hows the trigger pull on that thing looks smooth?

[314299]

Yes, the trigger on this one is quite smooth and pretty light for a Mosin.

[coppincopp]

where do you shoot? can you tell me?

[314299]

This video was taken at my local gun club, unfortunately this range is now closed.

[coppincopp]

@314299 god damn. you see... i am half polish, and i am a shooter as well, and i wanted to shoot in polamd so.. well thanks anyway :D

[314299]

Sorry I'm in Canada!

[coppincopp]

@314299 LOL i am really screwd XD

[coppincopp]

@314299oh crap

[coppincopp]

@314299 thanks anyway

[314299]

I've heard that some of that surplus heavy ball is really entertaining to shoot! We don't have much to pick from in the way of surplus ammo up here so I mostly shoot reloads and they don't have quite the same effect.

[jfmm99]

Mine must be Soviet made, as the stock is heavily lacquered, not oi'l finished like yours. A lovely weapon.

[314299]

The receiver markings should give you a hint as to where yours was made.

[jfmm99]

Beautiful vid....beautiful weapon! I just recently purchased an M44 myself. It is not as clean as yours, but is unbelievably fun to shoot!! I love it. Just field stripped and cleaned it for the first time yesterday.  Thanks for posting this great vid.

[314299]

Thanks for commenting, M44's are indeed fun to shoot - there is usually lots of blast and flash with much of the surplus ammo.

[bigusmcWW2]

yours is really clean

[314299]

Yep, it was new in the grease when I got it.

[ddmo2]

What was that ammo you were shooting?

[314299]

This was ammo I reloaded with cast lead bullets.

[fullthrottlemf]

A damn beautiful rifle. just curious what an unissued rifle goes for, I have not been able to find any as of late.

[314299]

I expect somewhere around $350 to $400.

[Elementlmage]

My God, it's almost a crime to shoot such a beautiful rifle.

I realize you are on the northern side of the border, but you wouldn't happen to have any leads on where I could pick one of those up State-side, would ya?

[314299]

Some people won't shoot an un-issued rifle like this one as it does somewhat diminish it's value. However they were made to be used and enjoyed so that's what I do. To me the rifle looks just as good as it did before it was fired.

Best bet for a Polish M44 down your way would be to keep an eye on the auction sites like Gun Broker.

[assaultrecon28]

i just scored a '53 polak in excellent condition for 150$

[314299]

Great deal!

[UrbanTiger74]

Now that is a beautiful bolt rifle right there.

[56REME]

Would you say that this rifle has been immaculately restored,Or really is an unissued piece.How is the stock finished [BLO ?] .I might have thought it would've been lacquered as new,but doesnt look like this from the video.Might this finish be a quirk of this more unusual variant ?.

[314299]

This rifle is in original condition, it is not refurbished or restored in any way. It is unissued and was still in the grease when I got it. I've seen dozens of them in the same new condition. Unlike the Soviet rifles the stocks are not lacquered, they are oil finished.

[USASoCCerGoaL]

Its my understand that the russians made around 31,000,000 of these calibar rifles. Its easy to understand then that the quality would sometimes lack when there were such deadlines to make in war time. Im sure non wartime weaponry got more care when manufacturing

[314299]

There were a huge number of the various Mosin Nagant rifles made by the Russians/Soviets and other countries. When we discuss "quality" in regards to these weapons we are mainly talking the quality of the fit and finish, because as combat weapons even the ugly ones made in haste (1942) still are strong, reliable and accurate. Most countries involved in WW2 cut corners in weapons production, to some degree.

[maddox215]

nice thats an early mosin this ones from 1953 i own one my self but mines 1952

[314299]

Supposedly these Polish made M44 were made from 1950 until 1962, but all the ones I've seen are dated either 52 or 53, and most are in excellent condition.

[484442pt]

@314299

Polish M44's were manufactured probably from 1950/51 to 55/56 (like others Soviet war or pre-war designed weapons).

[314299]

That could be. It depends on what source we are to believe. Considering the rifles I've actually seen your production range makes more sense.

[484442pt]

I think that most reliable source is that says about 373 000 were manufactured between 1951-56. Radom also manufactured a very, very small number of m91/30 (sniper) in 1951

[314299]

That's a pretty healthy production run. Be interesting to run across one of those sniper rifles!

[idgewe]

do you think you could do a review like this one on your m96 swedish ?

[314299]

That's on my "plan to do" list, but no telling when I will get around to it.

[shasha1873]

What a clean rifle. Just beautiful.

[314299]

Thanks, I'm glad I got it

[idgewe]

ive never seen a mosin that looks that gud before nice rifle , does the bore look as good as the rest of the rifle ?

[314299]

Yes, the bore is as nice as the outside, perfect condition.

[484442pt]

During communist times Predom-Łucznik in Radom officially made... sewing machines! From 1947 to 1956 they manufactured Soviet-designed war-time weapons (PPSh, PPS-43 Degtyarev's, Tokarev's and Mosin's as well), from 1957 - post-war weapons like AK's, RPD's and since 1963 - first Polish-designed: PM-63, P-64...

[314299]

Sounds similar to the Hungarian factory FEG - Fegyver es Gazkeszuelekgyara NV, which I believe stands for "Arms and Gas Appliances". Many arms makers also produced motorcycles, typewriters and bicycles.

[484442pt]

Arsenal, Bulgaria - machine tools;

Cugir, Romania - sewing/washing machines;

Ceska Zbrojovka, Czechoslovakia - motocycles;

Hipolit Cegielski Poznań, Poland - locomotives, ship engines;

and others...

There's no official arms manufacturer in communist states.

[314299]

But despite that they seemed to produce vast quantities of arms! I guess this is what George Orwell was talking about when he talked about "double speak".

[KiloEcho5]

Polish M44's are the best quality of Mosin Nagants.

[314299]

They certainly are the best looking of the breed!

[314299]

I used to have a 9mm Tokarev with the same stupid safety, but mine was Hungarian made.

[leoffensive]

very nice mosin man

i have a 1938 91/30 from izhesk(sp?)

mine is in decent condition but yours is like wow man

it looks like a brand new sport rifle from big 5

very nice

[314299]

Thanks. It's probably the best condition mil-surp rifle I have. Despite being 56 years old it is still in pretty much "new" condition.

[leoffensive]

no prob man. thanks for sharing your rifle on this video. i just posted a video of my coworker shooting mine. theres no close up look at it but i finally have a video of my rifle up.

[314299]

I'll check that out.

[adcomamps]

i own the m44 mosin nagant and the91/30 mosin nagant . i live on the farm and i shoot rabbits with them guns . what did you polish it with ...

[314299]

Can't be much left of those bunnies......

Only polish Polish rifles with proper Polish polish.

[SoccerDJRob]

lol rabbits must explode, they were originally russian guns but when Russia took over poland after ww2 the Poles made better versions of the rifles

[314299]

Radom was noted for making very nice quality guns during peacetime.

[folk1612]

I have 2 polish 44's,they are beautifully machined,I would say they are the best quality Mosins I have ever seen and operated.The Russian mosins are not in the same league as far as finish and smoothness is concerned.I think some of the Romanian 44 carbines are close,but IMHO the Poles are the cream of the crop.

[314299]

I've never had my hands on a Romanian m44, but if they are close to the Polish in fit and finish then they must be nice.

[314299]

Thanks!

[MrGunsplosion]

that is the most perfectly preserved mosin i have ever seen, and I've seen a lot

[314299]

It's the best one I've seen as well. I sold another Polish M44 that was slightly less pristine so that I could get this one, and it turns out that this one has a better trigger than the first one.

[314299]

Polish made rifles are not very common around here, with the exception of the M44. I've heard that the Polish made Mauser is very nicely made. I would like to examine one for myself someday.

[Gunluver1]

I think the Fins have nicer, better quality rifles

[314299]

While the Finnish rebuilt and issued rifles are indeed accurate shooters, and very nice Mosin Nagants, the Finns never made entire rifles, they always rebuilt someone else s receivers. The Poles, however built the entire rifle. It's rather an "apple and oranges" kind of thing - newly made verses recycled and rebuilt.

[Alexn1067]

lol the poles were still using the old mosin nagant design while the russians had already moved on to the SKS and AK-47.

[314299]

Bolt action rifles were still very much front line in the early 1950's when these were built.

[WAQWBrentwood]

@Alexn1067 I beleve ALL Soviet block nations used a mix of weapons. (auto & otherwise) So did we: after all '03 Springfeilds were still around in WWII and Smith & Wesson .38 & 45 revolvers saw action untill 'Nam some 55 years AFTER the the adoption of the hallowed M1911.

[taco1030]

thats a buetifull rifle you own there, i wonder if my uncles is better looking i bet not, thats a sexy rifle you got there

[RainXbox]

thats the best Mosin Nagant ive ever seen and the bolt looked so smooth any ive ever seen has giveing alot of fight trying to cock it truly a fine rifle u have there

[314299]

All the Polish Mosin I have seen are very nice, much smoother than the Soviet ones.

[Grzywa1988]

Also they are shorter than soviet. Soviet mosins are longer. That what i just known from my history teacher.

[314299]

Soviet M-44 and the Polish M-44 are the same length. There are longer Soviet rifles such as the M91/30.

[Grzywa1988]

Ok thanks it really helps. :) Which is better in ur opinion?

[314299]

The Polish have better fit and finish, but they don't seem to shoot any better than the Soviet ones. Actually the long soviet M91/30 are more pleasant to shoot since they have less recoil and muzzle blast.

[SoccerBalbus]

7.62.54 big damage

[314299]

Yep, a real old fashioned round with lots of power.

[taco1030]

course my mauser is more powerful

7.92x57mm

[314299]

Not if you shoot American factory loaded 7.92x57......

[MaxPayne719]

lol,, for 1953 made it looks very new

[314299]

Yep, pretty good shape for fifty-six years old. Of course it spent 40+ of those years in a crate and covered with grease.

[spetznaz1337]

How the hell did you get a crated Mosin?

[314299]

These new unissued M44 were imported in quantity a number of years ago, it's one of that batch.

[druturn]

Oh baby that's a smooth bolt! That is one beautiful M44 you got there!

[314299]

Radom certainly took their time and polished the polish bolt.

[kombad79]

No pięknie też bym se tak postrzelał z takiego sprzętu POZDRAWIAM.

[beausejour89]

Great looking M44, how much did it cost to get that one, i picked up a Russian M44 manufactured in 1944 for about $110 and it was in crappy condition.

[314299]

It's hard to answer that since I didn't buy this one outright. I traded another Polish M44 (in lesser condition) for this one, plus some cash. That was over ten years ago, but I doubt I have anymore than $160 in this one. To replace it today with one in equivalent condition I would expect to pay $350 or so.

[beausejour89]

thats a pretty good deal, i refinished mine and i am satisfied with it.

[izzy1948]

I too have a Polish M44 (1952 manufacture) and it is by far my favorite of all the mosin nagants, I agree that the bolt is the smoothest of any Mosin. Yet another great video!

[Earlkrumm]

Wow! Looks like we have virtually the same rifle. mine is slightly more worn, although that is due to use in the bush. It was in similar, unissued condition when i got it. Mine was also made in 1953, and the serial is similar too. Perhaps they are brothers :D .

[314299]

I suppose that would make them "brothers in arms"?

[whatsdoing]

G'day thanks for a top video on the Nagant,how accurate are they, also look like a nice carbine to use.

[314299]

So far accuracy has been decent, but not super. I expect that the accuracy will improve a lot when I finally get rid of the cosmoline that's still there under the wood. I think the action is sliding around a bit shot to shot, due to the grease. This one has a very slick action, and a really good trigger as well. That, and all the weight, make it a nice shooter.

[Goodspittin]

Beautiful rifle.