Bitcoin is the same BIG SHIT as the global thin-air banking speculation system: Money out of work for creating NOTHING. I've hoped to find an answer about what the computer does when it creates bitcoins: Answer: NO ANSWER other than consuming power. The ultimate currency for complete morons.
From what I've read, the bit-coin miners act as the servers. Each miner handles transactions between other bitcoin clients, and is rewarded per transaction it assists in.
I'm still fuzzy about the details, but but it appears the more miners are helping to confirm the viability of a bitcoin transaction, the more secure the transaction is, so miners do play a vital role in maintaining the viability of the bitcoin, which is why they are rewarded.
From what I've read, the bit-coin miners act as the servers. Each miner handles transactions between other bitcoin clients, and is rewarded per transaction it assists in.
I'm still fuzzy about the details, but but it appears the more miners are helping to confirm the viability of a bitcoin transaction, the more secure the transaction is, so miners do play a vital role in maintaining the viability of the bitcoin, which is why they are rewarded.
?????????? money out of thin air this is just another step to globalizing the world ?????????? one world currency is gold and silver as it has been for centries because you cant manipulate it if you hold and trade its physical self
Bitcoins are never *turned* into other currencies, only *traded* for other currencies. For example, if you have dollars and want Bitcoins; someone has to be on the other side of that trade, wanting dollars and offering Bitcoins.
Exchanges help to automate the process, so you don't have to worry about finding that counterparty yourself.
A great concept however still has some way to go. I like the decentralised concept in relation to the wikileaks issue and paypal. but as we use more and more electronic banking the phy$ical currency ie notes will become more irrelevant. especially with the young. though there will always be some of us that like to pull some cash out of the bank and play with it to see the fruits of our labours. Personally I prefer the term Credit.
@Uzerc no if you have a good graphics card say a 6970 you are basically mining a bit over a quarter of a bitcoin per day so in 4 days i should have 1 BTC aka bitcoin. 1 bitcoin is currently worth $4.95CAD canadian dollar. so more like a dollar a day and you do not have to do shit
Anything that supports and helps free people, and gives free alternatives by the people, Ill support. The current mainstream market and economy is so corrupt and mishandled and controlled, we need the people to stand up and make alternative ways to do our daily needs.
@EndTheFedRes The money supply is controlled by a distributed set of computers (that you can be a part of) following an algorithm that was predetermined from the start of the bitcoin network. On average, every 10 minutes one of the computers maintaining the bitcoin network gets 50 bitcoins. The supply cuts in half every 4 years.
Its good that you want to scrutinize the money. This is necessary to maintain its health. If you have any questions on bitcoin feel free to ask.
@EndTheFedRes No one really controls the money. Earlier on you could control the system if you had enough processing power, but now there is too much processing already in the system to control it with a personal computer.
lmao sooo a fiat money is no good, but electronic/invisible money is better?!?! HAHA nice... Welcome to 2012 end of the world, and let the government control EVERYTHING
@CollectingSilver Fiat money can be created without limit by a small group of people. The bitcoin network has a set creation rate the ends at 21 million bitcoins. This, among other features such as fast worldwide low cost pseudonymous transactions, makes bitcoin far better than fiat money.
"let the government control EVERYTHING"
I hope you realize bitcoins are highly resistant to government control.
@danwat1234 They're basically worthless, what matters is that you exerted significant computing power in order to basically brute force a hash which has x amount of leading zeroes. It's easy to verify, because you only need to hash your solution once, but you have to hash a random string millions of millions times before finding a hash which matches the target.
@danwat1234 If you decide to mine bitcoins (keep in mind you don't have to mine to use bitcoins) your computer will be performing billions of hashes on the latest transaction data. The purpose of doing this is to basically certify the bitcoin transaction ledger, which is called the blockchain, with a lot of computing power. This makes it hard to reverse transactions in the ledger giving bitcoin it resilience against double spending.
I live in Australia, so we do not hear anything about Bitcoin, but Good wife Ep blew me away. Money is so outdated now. I had no idea Bitcoin existed till the Ep came up.
@jksville "Fiat" (from lat. fiat "let it be so") means "by government decree". It refers to the fact that you have to accept dollars or else.
Commodities such as gold and yes also Bitcoin were chosen as money by the market due to their properties. Bitcoin was first traded for non-monetary reasons (coolness etc.), but once a liquid market was established we started to see use as money.
I think I know what you mean though, Bitcoin is more "virtual" than gold and much younger = riskier.
isn't this just capitalism all over again? The owner of the largest computer can procuce the most bitcoins and that person can also accept investment into the mining. The thing that i don't understand is what the mining power (computer power) is used for? What is work in this online community?
@Abbe1234 Mining can seem a little counter-intuitive at first - What does running your processor have to do with creating actual wealth? Mining is the process of performing a very complicated math problem, and if your computer is the first to solve that problem then you are awarded 50 coins. This math isn't just some arbitrary proof-of-work, it's actually the process of *authenticating* the coins, validating that the cryptography of the block is sound.
Bitcoin is money - i.e. it is a fungible good meant to facilitate trade without coincidence of wants. In other words, instead of trading a cow for wheat, you can sell the cow to one person and buy wheat from someone else.
The main difference to other currencies we use (US dollars, Euros, Facebook Credits, ...) is that with Bitcoin there is no single issuer who:
@Abbe1234 The problem with just using a powerful computer is that there is already so much computing power in the network that no personal computer will be able to control it.
@severemma Before 2006, you would have been correct, but the rules have been significantly relaxed. The Directorate-General for Translations now recommends "euros" and the official Style Guide explicitly allows both "euro" and "euros" as valid plural forms. See Wikipedia article "Linguistic issues concerning the euro".
People should stop hoarding and speculating with bitcoin, the public will not get involved, there need to be more business running bitcoin, that's how you get rich with bitcoin by helping bitcoin t be succesful.
i'll agree anything that can substitute for paypal is a great ideaa,,and i think bitcoin has some great ideas but its lacking somewhere,,when myself and others i see saying "uhhhh,,,ehhhh,,,wait,,,,whatt,,,,how,,," it means its lacking trust or simplicity or ease of use..i think bitcoin has the potential to grow bigger,but from my first impression it doesn't appear to be a true replacement for paypal like i had hoped..shame i was kinda excited to look it up after hearing about it.
Nobody disputes that gold is a safer store of value, precisely because it has such a long history. If there was a way to send gold digitally, it would be superior to Bitcoins in every way, but past attempts to do that have revealed a big problem: Someone has to physically store the gold that is transferred and that person or company can get shut down. So while gold and Bitcoins share similarities like the limited supply they don't compete as they serve different use cases.
@Petra9119 Gold and silver have tiny 'industrial' value, in things like jewellery and some electronics. 99.9% of their market value is just assigned to them because they are rare, hard to counterfeit, easily recognisable etc. Their intrinsic value is maybe 0.1% of their market value. The difference with bitcoin is that its intrinsic value is 0 as you rightly point out. Similarly nobody guarantees gold's value. It can easily drop to $10/oz tomorrow from $1700.
@Petra9119 Bitcoins are created by the bitcoin network and given out in a kind of lottery to everybody participating in the network (the 'miners').
Nobody ensures the value of bitcoin except the community of merchants that accepts them in their stores and trade for them. In that sense bitcoins are the same as gold or silver. No organization controls their supply. They just exist.
Well... you could have sold this to more people... IF you actually did a "cons" bit in the video... (I don't know what they are, but there obviously are some).
@NeoXF The main argument against Bitcoin in my opinion is that not enough people use it for it to really replace PayPal etc.
As for talking about pros and cons in the video - with this video we just wanted to get people interested. To present a real argument you'd need a lot more time. Not sure what the format would be, maybe a documentary. It should probably also be done by a more neutral instance if you really want both sides of the issue rather than just a token argument.
@justmoon3 Just a year or two ago Bitcoin was used by a dozen cryptography enthusiasts. Now we have many thousands of users. Bitcoin is growing fast. You're right tho unless the community grows, Bitcoins will be useless. But I'm confident that more and more people will 'see the light'.
@ghgnmghgdrew Yes you can buy some illegal stuff online on the Silk Road. Also you can send bitcoins to organizations like Wikileaks that are blocked by paypal and all credit card companies.
@powpanda so wikileaks can now take donations? sounds too good to be true. This whole thing was bought about by corrupt institutions like paypal/amazon when they behaved the way they did publicly. A lot of people will scare monger about this and that scaremongering will come from the media telling them it's bad. But in truth it will be some big banker funding the propaganda. I hope they are prepared for this... I can't wait to see where this experiment goes. Let the media war begin xD
@apezucolabooster While that's true, certain items have intrinsic value because they take labor to produce. For example, gold take effort to obtain. If you someone were able to create gold out of thin air, the value of gold would take a dive over night.
bitcoin is a man made currency. New things are hyped up at first, and there is always another story. And dealing in man made digital currency while the government tries to control the internet? This a scam, but if enough people are mesmerized, then it becomes reality. WE give it value, it really has none. Total scam, and it looks like people are ready to eat it up, just like all the other sauteed bullshit we have been chowing down on the last 30 yrs. And bullshit it is a threat to banks.
Great video and graphics and good clarification. Bitcoin marketplaces are growing. I found a really good looking site recently, coinabul dot com where you can buy gold and silver with Bitcoins!
I am a total newbie, so please bear with me :) After watching the video I was wondering if it is possible to connect my credit card to a Bitcoin account, and have money transfered to my bank account via the credit card? Similar to how PayPal works, but without all the bs. This would be very nice for ones freelancing needs.
@danielsunshinedahl As a freelancer for many years, I hear ya. Unfortunately, what you describe isn't possible yet. As you might imagine, most the traditional banks and credit card companies aren't exactly enthusiastic about working with our community. We're competition.
That said, there are some folks like BitPay who are working in that direction. I believe with BitPay you can already receive BTC payments and have them transferred to your bank account in USD.
After some thought, I've realized this is bull. I'm still going to start mining. Deflation will be my friend: might as well try to make some money with this before it comes crashing down.
What's the point of hoarding if you're not going to spend the money? Hoarding just means people hold the coins for a time before they sell them. Beware of any economist who uses emotional language.
The total amount of Bitcoins is still going to decrease due to loss for various reasons. But if the supply decreases, the price will rise. Thereby, the real value adjusts even if the nominal value stays fixed. Bitcoins are suitably divisible for high valuations.
It seems good to me in most aspects, although I do have some worries. BitcoinWiki says that no more than 21M coins can exist at a time. If that's the case, then how would you deal with people who choose to hoard their money? Eventually, as they collect more and do not give it up, their share of the amount of bitcoins grows until they own all of them. How is such prevented?
@TheHeidelbergKid " until they own all of them" Ridiculous. If bitcoin were hoarded that much, the price would rise - which makes people highly likely to give them up for local currency or goods and services. Many early hoarders parted with a decent chunk of their coins when the price bubbled up to near $30 USD. Fear that the price will come down again is what prevents it being completely hoarded and going too crazy high.
@troy1002x either in person with anyone willing to buy/sell, via IRC or forums etc or more commonly through an exchange such as tradehill com you could also check out bitinstant com for easier ways to get your funds to or from the exchanges.
Anonymous - not quite. "However, if an address is connected to a user at any point it can be possible to follow back a series of transactions because each participant likely knows who paid them and may disclose that information on request or under duress." (Wikipedia)
Yes, the difficulty adjusts based on the amount of computing power in the network. In practice, when mining becomes unprofitable for some, they'll stop doing it, which lowers the difficulty and makes it profitable again for others who are more efficient at it.
People who think this is a good idea are so idiotic <.< I have BILLIONS of bitcoins, but there value is shit. You can produce hundreds of thousands in seconds from the "deep web" .
@Javis586 You don't have billions of Bitcoins. There are only 7.5 million in existence currently. Google bitcoinwatch and you'll get a nice overview of some basic Bitcoin network stats.
@Enysvar What a completey arrogant implication. In the past I did play RuneScape nor do I play anymore, though. That being said, even if I did play RuneScape today, if anything it would have a positive effect on my intelligence of computers, not a negative one. Don't tread on the intellectuals of youtube my friend, you will be trolled and virtually curb stomped. -Javis
i found a better alternative to bitcoins. go to azeroth, mine mithril ore, smelt into mithril bars, trade for 2 hours with hookers in thailand, sell those 2 hours to a french businessman for 10 bars of premium swiss chocolate, trade for 2 li-ion batteries from a korean housewife, trade those batteries for 3 burritos at the chipotle next to my house. either that, or just walk next door to the chipotle, pay $20 for the burritos & save 40 hours of idiot wasted time trying to be a hipster doofus
@WickedMagiotheWest I don't think you give them enough credit, this is common practice, and pretty effective. So many people know that Bitcoin is great, but these comments are littered with unexplained hate, idk. Maybe i'm just paranoid.
Bitcoins are fucking amazing, don't listen to the nay sayers. This is a huge threat to banks, I have no doubt they launched a campaign to soil the name and turn people away.
Back when I started I bought a lot of coins because they were cheap. I sold them for a ridiculous profit when the price was skyrocketing about 6 months ago or so. It worked out for me but I think I was lucky
I regularly use peoples pyramid schemes and I always get money back, I'm sure some people don't. I have made more then I have ever made in lotto or casinos... or the stock market for that matter
I am currently using a scheme called "Funtime Ponzo". I've done it twice and got money back
is something i can not understand.. if the transaction are made from the succesefull miners, then in 5-10 years when the completion of a block will be more scarce who will do the transactions? the hole market will wate for a day or more so all transactions will complete?
Unbelievable! People are actually involved in this.....how long do you think it'll be before the Jews shut it down? No usary for the Jews means no currency...period.
WoW... for those who don't realize this is similar to the fiat currencies, you're an idiot! The fees are similar to interest on fiat currencies. This would work only if people aren't going to get fees up the a $ $.
Bitcoin is the same BIG SHIT as the global thin-air banking speculation system: Money out of work for creating NOTHING. I've hoped to find an answer about what the computer does when it creates bitcoins: Answer: NO ANSWER other than consuming power. The ultimate currency for complete morons.
InfernoFuture 1 day ago
@InfernoFuture
From what I've read, the bit-coin miners act as the servers. Each miner handles transactions between other bitcoin clients, and is rewarded per transaction it assists in.
I'm still fuzzy about the details, but but it appears the more miners are helping to confirm the viability of a bitcoin transaction, the more secure the transaction is, so miners do play a vital role in maintaining the viability of the bitcoin, which is why they are rewarded.
KixuFox 12 hours ago
@InfernoFuture
From what I've read, the bit-coin miners act as the servers. Each miner handles transactions between other bitcoin clients, and is rewarded per transaction it assists in.
I'm still fuzzy about the details, but but it appears the more miners are helping to confirm the viability of a bitcoin transaction, the more secure the transaction is, so miners do play a vital role in maintaining the viability of the bitcoin, which is why they are rewarded.
KixuFox 12 hours ago
?????????? money out of thin air this is just another step to globalizing the world ?????????? one world currency is gold and silver as it has been for centries because you cant manipulate it if you hold and trade its physical self
JMB1787 1 day ago
@JMB1787 this Bitcoin is based on military-grade encryption
softoss 1 day ago
I'm confused. Don't we have to pay REAL MONEY to get bitcoins? How are bitcoins turned into REAL MONEY?
xBl00dBrothersX 4 days ago
@xBl00dBrothersX
Bitcoins are never *turned* into other currencies, only *traded* for other currencies. For example, if you have dollars and want Bitcoins; someone has to be on the other side of that trade, wanting dollars and offering Bitcoins.
Exchanges help to automate the process, so you don't have to worry about finding that counterparty yourself.
justmoon3 4 days ago
A great concept however still has some way to go. I like the decentralised concept in relation to the wikileaks issue and paypal. but as we use more and more electronic banking the phy$ical currency ie notes will become more irrelevant. especially with the young. though there will always be some of us that like to pull some cash out of the bank and play with it to see the fruits of our labours. Personally I prefer the term Credit.
Lastindependentthink 1 week ago
@Lastindependentthink Bitcredit?
Lastindependentthink 1 week ago
This is bullshit!
MatthewJEsteves 1 week ago
so if i live in a country without industry or natural resources I can get a computer and start mining coins for a living... Is Bono in on this?
lostbuffalo 1 week ago
So basically I run my computer all day and get ~$0.02 per day?
SWEET!
Uzerc 1 week ago
@Uzerc no if you have a good graphics card say a 6970 you are basically mining a bit over a quarter of a bitcoin per day so in 4 days i should have 1 BTC aka bitcoin. 1 bitcoin is currently worth $4.95CAD canadian dollar. so more like a dollar a day and you do not have to do shit
Mooseguy15 6 days ago
@Mooseguy15
Electricity would be a bitch though?
Uzerc 6 days ago
what software did you use to make this video?
eolzer 1 week ago
It costs four hundred thousand Bitcoins to use the internet... for twelve seconds.
ErnieTheGreatest 2 weeks ago
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Bitcoins are perfect! Everyone who wants to test them, send me $1.000 in my paypal and I will send you back 1.000.000 bitcoins!
eftaxiaskostas 3 weeks ago
@eftaxiaskostas Send the bitcoins first and you have a deal. :)
justmoon3 3 weeks ago
@eftaxiaskostas You are not making any sense.
The rate is ~$7/BT, last I heard. So, this is probably a scam.
muntoonxt 2 weeks ago
@muntoonxt
Bravo Serlock....! Bravo! clap.. clap..
eftaxiaskostas 2 weeks ago
I accept Bitcoin for consulting services--decentralized production combined with elements of a resource based economy.
grononprofit 3 weeks ago
hey, its used for drugs and guns and hacks too! how can you guys miss that! silly people.. :/
goddamnrickli 3 weeks ago
@goddamnrickli And no one uses dollars for guns or drugs
jimbob885 2 weeks ago
You know what's keeping bitcoin alive at the moment? Silk Road.
DystopianUtopia 3 weeks ago 3
How much is one worth?
PlaystationVitaLord 3 weeks ago
@PlaystationVitaLord
Currently 1 BTC = 5.27 USD.
You can find the latest exchange rates on bitcoincharts com
justmoon3 3 weeks ago
@justmoon3 k. thanks for the heads up!
PlaystationVitaLord 3 weeks ago
is this legal? how do you sell bitcoins for real money?
Jimmytulips 3 weeks ago
could you link a bitcoin miner to a youtube video and get coins off of the views that the youtube video gets?
RollersPostulate 1 month ago
@RollersPostulate I am not an expert, but I don't think so. You could beg for donations, I guess.
0420sa29 4 weeks ago
@0420sa29 could I have some bitcoins please? I just discovered the deep web and I am now able to access the black market c:
RollersPostulate 4 weeks ago
Anything that supports and helps free people, and gives free alternatives by the people, Ill support. The current mainstream market and economy is so corrupt and mishandled and controlled, we need the people to stand up and make alternative ways to do our daily needs.
Blake4014 1 month ago 20
@Blake4014 The Lawful bank my friend if you have not already please check it out ,-)
MsFuturestar1 4 weeks ago
to be honest, Im not really that much clearer of how to use them.
JOOP60606 1 month ago 43
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ElectraBoltage 1 month ago
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WalletBlackup 1 month ago
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and then msg me ur address , and i'll tell you where to spend your bitcoins on what you really want..
shezza 1 month ago
Great idea...I like bypassing the banks however; Who controls the money supply? What happens if you get 'hacked'?
A new currency (controlled by the people) is needed, but we always must scrutinize who controls the money.
EndTheFedRes 1 month ago
@EndTheFedRes The money supply is controlled by a distributed set of computers (that you can be a part of) following an algorithm that was predetermined from the start of the bitcoin network. On average, every 10 minutes one of the computers maintaining the bitcoin network gets 50 bitcoins. The supply cuts in half every 4 years.
Its good that you want to scrutinize the money. This is necessary to maintain its health. If you have any questions on bitcoin feel free to ask.
lambedan 1 month ago
@EndTheFedRes No one really controls the money. Earlier on you could control the system if you had enough processing power, but now there is too much processing already in the system to control it with a personal computer.
HigurashiMerlin 3 weeks ago
deepweb
smario3500 1 month ago
Yeah. Like I will ever use that.
pttike1981 1 month ago
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TheSciencexxiii 1 month ago
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shezza 1 month ago
lmao sooo a fiat money is no good, but electronic/invisible money is better?!?! HAHA nice... Welcome to 2012 end of the world, and let the government control EVERYTHING
CollectingSilver 1 month ago
@CollectingSilver Fiat money can be created without limit by a small group of people. The bitcoin network has a set creation rate the ends at 21 million bitcoins. This, among other features such as fast worldwide low cost pseudonymous transactions, makes bitcoin far better than fiat money.
"let the government control EVERYTHING"
I hope you realize bitcoins are highly resistant to government control.
lambedan 1 month ago
How many are here because of The good wife EP??
sleepyearth 1 month ago
@sleepyearth I am.
What the fuck I didn't know it was real.
Stickmaleboy 1 month ago
@sleepyearth Im here because of Tor and the black markets, lol
Filmer1eX 1 month ago
if you want to get some coins or to buy something for your coins check out bitmit.net it is like ebay only with bitcoins
opium47 1 month ago
So this is a distributed computing project? What is our CPU or GPU actually computing?
danwat1234 1 month ago
@danwat1234 They're basically worthless, what matters is that you exerted significant computing power in order to basically brute force a hash which has x amount of leading zeroes. It's easy to verify, because you only need to hash your solution once, but you have to hash a random string millions of millions times before finding a hash which matches the target.
oskArtist 1 month ago
@danwat1234 Part decryption, part transaction validation, and part authentication of new coins.
MarkOates2 1 month ago
@danwat1234 If you decide to mine bitcoins (keep in mind you don't have to mine to use bitcoins) your computer will be performing billions of hashes on the latest transaction data. The purpose of doing this is to basically certify the bitcoin transaction ledger, which is called the blockchain, with a lot of computing power. This makes it hard to reverse transactions in the ledger giving bitcoin it resilience against double spending.
lambedan 1 month ago
I live in Australia, so we do not hear anything about Bitcoin, but Good wife Ep blew me away. Money is so outdated now. I had no idea Bitcoin existed till the Ep came up.
ozbrizzy 1 month ago
Is it just me or does electronic currency seem more fiat that paper?
jksville 1 month ago
@jksville "Fiat" (from lat. fiat "let it be so") means "by government decree". It refers to the fact that you have to accept dollars or else.
Commodities such as gold and yes also Bitcoin were chosen as money by the market due to their properties. Bitcoin was first traded for non-monetary reasons (coolness etc.), but once a liquid market was established we started to see use as money.
I think I know what you mean though, Bitcoin is more "virtual" than gold and much younger = riskier.
justmoon3 1 month ago
The Good Wife Brought me here.
ozbrizzy 1 month ago 2
@ozbrizzy i was amazed Good Wife did an episode about it!
johnsondale07 1 month ago
isn't this just capitalism all over again? The owner of the largest computer can procuce the most bitcoins and that person can also accept investment into the mining. The thing that i don't understand is what the mining power (computer power) is used for? What is work in this online community?
Abbe1234 1 month ago
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@Abbe1234 Mining can seem a little counter-intuitive at first - What does running your processor have to do with creating actual wealth? Mining is the process of performing a very complicated math problem, and if your computer is the first to solve that problem then you are awarded 50 coins. This math isn't just some arbitrary proof-of-work, it's actually the process of *authenticating* the coins, validating that the cryptography of the block is sound.
MarkOates2 1 month ago
@MarkOates2 thank you for a good answer
Abbe1234 1 month ago
@Abbe1234 Not sure what you mean by capitalism?
Bitcoin is money - i.e. it is a fungible good meant to facilitate trade without coincidence of wants. In other words, instead of trading a cow for wheat, you can sell the cow to one person and buy wheat from someone else.
The main difference to other currencies we use (US dollars, Euros, Facebook Credits, ...) is that with Bitcoin there is no single issuer who:
1. Controls supply
2. Decides who can trade
3. Determines transaction fees
justmoon3 1 month ago
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514009265 1 month ago
@Abbe1234 The problem with just using a powerful computer is that there is already so much computing power in the network that no personal computer will be able to control it.
HigurashiMerlin 3 weeks ago
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Pffffft. If you want to get rich fast with bitcoins: watch?v=rSbwYqaXGHk
Katten1982 1 month ago
Euros? EuroS? What is this amateur hour! 20 Euro, 100 Euro, 1,000,000 Euro, never plural
severemma 1 month ago
@severemma Before 2006, you would have been correct, but the rules have been significantly relaxed. The Directorate-General for Translations now recommends "euros" and the official Style Guide explicitly allows both "euro" and "euros" as valid plural forms. See Wikipedia article "Linguistic issues concerning the euro".
justmoon3 1 month ago
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Bitcoin is as insecure and non-anonymous as public toilets (see allseeingbiteye . tk)
BitcoinEye 1 month ago
People should stop hoarding and speculating with bitcoin, the public will not get involved, there need to be more business running bitcoin, that's how you get rich with bitcoin by helping bitcoin t be succesful.
Free3dTitles 1 month ago
i'll agree anything that can substitute for paypal is a great ideaa,,and i think bitcoin has some great ideas but its lacking somewhere,,when myself and others i see saying "uhhhh,,,ehhhh,,,wait,,,,whatt,,,,how,,," it means its lacking trust or simplicity or ease of use..i think bitcoin has the potential to grow bigger,but from my first impression it doesn't appear to be a true replacement for paypal like i had hoped..shame i was kinda excited to look it up after hearing about it.
ShOwStOpp3rr 1 month ago
sounds like an alchemy scam
greenaquarium 1 month ago
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greenaquarium 1 month ago
Bitcoins is an elaborate hoax perpetrated by AMD sales execs. lmao
pam0077 2 months ago
@pam0077 proof?
MrSteveykk 1 month ago
@Petra9119
Nobody disputes that gold is a safer store of value, precisely because it has such a long history. If there was a way to send gold digitally, it would be superior to Bitcoins in every way, but past attempts to do that have revealed a big problem: Someone has to physically store the gold that is transferred and that person or company can get shut down. So while gold and Bitcoins share similarities like the limited supply they don't compete as they serve different use cases.
justmoon3 2 months ago
@Petra9119 Gold and silver have tiny 'industrial' value, in things like jewellery and some electronics. 99.9% of their market value is just assigned to them because they are rare, hard to counterfeit, easily recognisable etc. Their intrinsic value is maybe 0.1% of their market value. The difference with bitcoin is that its intrinsic value is 0 as you rightly point out. Similarly nobody guarantees gold's value. It can easily drop to $10/oz tomorrow from $1700.
powpanda 2 months ago
@Petra9119 Bitcoins are created by the bitcoin network and given out in a kind of lottery to everybody participating in the network (the 'miners').
Nobody ensures the value of bitcoin except the community of merchants that accepts them in their stores and trade for them. In that sense bitcoins are the same as gold or silver. No organization controls their supply. They just exist.
powpanda 2 months ago
@powpanda
What stores?
pam0077 2 months ago
@pam0077 en . bitcoin . it/wiki/Trade
powpanda 2 months ago
isn't this the same currency used on Darknet?
ThePr0gram 2 months ago
@ThePr0gram What is Darknet?
justmoon3 2 months ago
Well... you could have sold this to more people... IF you actually did a "cons" bit in the video... (I don't know what they are, but there obviously are some).
NeoXF 2 months ago
Can you buy anything other than the same old crap that you can get with regular money?
ghgnmghgdrew 2 months ago
@ghgnmghgdrew Well, what else could there be, you worst enemy's soul? I mean, fuck money, why would there be something else.
NeoXF 2 months ago
@NeoXF The main argument against Bitcoin in my opinion is that not enough people use it for it to really replace PayPal etc.
As for talking about pros and cons in the video - with this video we just wanted to get people interested. To present a real argument you'd need a lot more time. Not sure what the format would be, maybe a documentary. It should probably also be done by a more neutral instance if you really want both sides of the issue rather than just a token argument.
justmoon3 2 months ago
@justmoon3 Just a year or two ago Bitcoin was used by a dozen cryptography enthusiasts. Now we have many thousands of users. Bitcoin is growing fast. You're right tho unless the community grows, Bitcoins will be useless. But I'm confident that more and more people will 'see the light'.
powpanda 2 months ago
@ghgnmghgdrew Yes you can buy some illegal stuff online on the Silk Road. Also you can send bitcoins to organizations like Wikileaks that are blocked by paypal and all credit card companies.
powpanda 2 months ago
@powpanda so wikileaks can now take donations? sounds too good to be true. This whole thing was bought about by corrupt institutions like paypal/amazon when they behaved the way they did publicly. A lot of people will scare monger about this and that scaremongering will come from the media telling them it's bad. But in truth it will be some big banker funding the propaganda. I hope they are prepared for this... I can't wait to see where this experiment goes. Let the media war begin xD
MrSteveykk 1 month ago
@MrSteveykk could you please explain how Amazon/Payal are corrupt?
Kryteris 1 month ago
@Kryteris google "paypal amazon wikileaks"
MrSteveykk 1 month ago
Show me a currency that is not man made..
apezucolabooster 2 months ago
@apezucolabooster While that's true, certain items have intrinsic value because they take labor to produce. For example, gold take effort to obtain. If you someone were able to create gold out of thin air, the value of gold would take a dive over night.
larrybud 2 months ago
candy
piecharthosen 1 month ago
bitcoin is a man made currency. New things are hyped up at first, and there is always another story. And dealing in man made digital currency while the government tries to control the internet? This a scam, but if enough people are mesmerized, then it becomes reality. WE give it value, it really has none. Total scam, and it looks like people are ready to eat it up, just like all the other sauteed bullshit we have been chowing down on the last 30 yrs. And bullshit it is a threat to banks.
ddddcheaper 2 months ago
Bilderberg
BWNPatagoniaTurismo 2 months ago
Great video and graphics and good clarification. Bitcoin marketplaces are growing. I found a really good looking site recently, coinabul dot com where you can buy gold and silver with Bitcoins!
HoloCreation 2 months ago
this sounds good ... wow ... people are evolving. yay!
ucvessel 2 months ago
Lemme get this straight, free money!? Okay, what's the catch?
MarthsBullet 2 months ago
@MarthsBullet Bitcoin isn't free money. You can buy it with dollars or you can buy hardware and mine it. Neither way is free.
justmoon3 2 months ago
@MarthsBullet The catch is that it's not free.
MarkOates2 2 months ago
I'm wondering with wisch software this animation has been done ?
Darkmdex 2 months ago
@Darkmdex I betcha a bazillion bitcoins that it was done on Adobe After Effects.
MarkOates2 2 months ago
@MarkOates2 You just won a bazillion bitcoins. :)
justmoon3 2 months ago
BITCOIN FTW!
acechave 3 months ago
bitcoin is the shit
WrathofBong420 3 months ago
I am a total newbie, so please bear with me :) After watching the video I was wondering if it is possible to connect my credit card to a Bitcoin account, and have money transfered to my bank account via the credit card? Similar to how PayPal works, but without all the bs. This would be very nice for ones freelancing needs.
danielsunshinedahl 3 months ago
@danielsunshinedahl As a freelancer for many years, I hear ya. Unfortunately, what you describe isn't possible yet. As you might imagine, most the traditional banks and credit card companies aren't exactly enthusiastic about working with our community. We're competition.
That said, there are some folks like BitPay who are working in that direction. I believe with BitPay you can already receive BTC payments and have them transferred to your bank account in USD.
justmoon3 3 months ago
After some thought, I've realized this is bull. I'm still going to start mining. Deflation will be my friend: might as well try to make some money with this before it comes crashing down.
TheHeidelbergKid 3 months ago
@TheHeidelbergKid
What's the point of hoarding if you're not going to spend the money? Hoarding just means people hold the coins for a time before they sell them. Beware of any economist who uses emotional language.
The total amount of Bitcoins is still going to decrease due to loss for various reasons. But if the supply decreases, the price will rise. Thereby, the real value adjusts even if the nominal value stays fixed. Bitcoins are suitably divisible for high valuations.
justmoon3 3 months ago
It seems good to me in most aspects, although I do have some worries. BitcoinWiki says that no more than 21M coins can exist at a time. If that's the case, then how would you deal with people who choose to hoard their money? Eventually, as they collect more and do not give it up, their share of the amount of bitcoins grows until they own all of them. How is such prevented?
TheHeidelbergKid 3 months ago
@TheHeidelbergKid " until they own all of them" Ridiculous. If bitcoin were hoarded that much, the price would rise - which makes people highly likely to give them up for local currency or goods and services. Many early hoarders parted with a decent chunk of their coins when the price bubbled up to near $30 USD. Fear that the price will come down again is what prevents it being completely hoarded and going too crazy high.
neuronstorm 2 months ago 2
ALPACA SOCKS?!?!?!?! no. fucking. way.
Sebastian1011 3 months ago
i just found a new use for my old computer....... :D
michel0003 3 months ago
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sushimako 3 months ago
Wait- how do you do change currencies with Bitcoin?
troy1002x 3 months ago
@troy1002x either in person with anyone willing to buy/sell, via IRC or forums etc or more commonly through an exchange such as tradehill com you could also check out bitinstant com for easier ways to get your funds to or from the exchanges.
TradeHill 3 months ago
Anonymous - not quite. "However, if an address is connected to a user at any point it can be possible to follow back a series of transactions because each participant likely knows who paid them and may disclose that information on request or under duress." (Wikipedia)
honigwachsreuben 3 months ago
@honigwachsreuben The video never claims that Bitcoin is anonymous?
justmoon3 3 months ago
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honigwachsreuben 3 months ago
@justmoon3 Check out 00:53 ;-)
honigwachsreuben 3 months ago
@honigwachsreuben You're right, I added an annotation. Can't believe Gavin, Mike and I all missed this. :(
justmoon3 3 months ago
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Surrounded411 3 months ago
Interesting proposition.
As with any system, what are the problems? What are the limits?
I'm interested in learning more.
radtech21 3 months ago
So basically it is it's own small economy? Since it "creates" coins.
Charles2337 3 months ago
how do i download the program to start mining?
sabino455 3 months ago
@sabino455 On weusecoins com, we have a short introduction to mining. You can also go to bitcointalk org and check the mining forum.
justmoon3 3 months ago
aren't Bitcoins used to buy drugs online?
Ritsoz 4 months ago
@Ritsoz That's what they've been in the news for. In reality, people use them to pay for almost anything. Google "Bitcoin wiki Trade".
justmoon3 4 months ago
watch a simple argument for why BitCoin can't be taken seriously: watch?v=UOozRKD7iLk
PrivationProductions 4 months ago
0:40 so one might get fewer bitcoins in a faster rig?
NapanTR 4 months ago
@NapanTR
Yes, the difficulty adjusts based on the amount of computing power in the network. In practice, when mining becomes unprofitable for some, they'll stop doing it, which lowers the difficulty and makes it profitable again for others who are more efficient at it.
justmoon3 4 months ago
lf this is for rea,it's working up to the mar,it will work in a simular way but scanners/readers,data sent to where all our data is held.
creations78 4 months ago
Its fake money so how will I use it in real life
thereddog223 4 months ago
@thereddog223 so is the US dollar, lol.
eethry 4 months ago
People who think this is a good idea are so idiotic <.< I have BILLIONS of bitcoins, but there value is shit. You can produce hundreds of thousands in seconds from the "deep web" .
Javis586 4 months ago
@Javis586 You don't have billions of Bitcoins. There are only 7.5 million in existence currently. Google bitcoinwatch and you'll get a nice overview of some basic Bitcoin network stats.
justmoon3 4 months ago 11
@Javis586 ok you must be an expert on computing since you play runescape LOL
Enysvar 3 months ago
@Enysvar What a completey arrogant implication. In the past I did play RuneScape nor do I play anymore, though. That being said, even if I did play RuneScape today, if anything it would have a positive effect on my intelligence of computers, not a negative one. Don't tread on the intellectuals of youtube my friend, you will be trolled and virtually curb stomped. -Javis
Javis586 3 months ago
Will I make profit with my HD5850 crossfire and Core i7 980X CPU ?
How much will I earn/lose mining BitCoins with my rig?
louisvl10 4 months ago
allright!! Alpaca socks!!
qu8ne 4 months ago
I dont like this at all. something just doesnt feel right about it.
ise1880 4 months ago
philnigable has no assets, carry on
tugger 4 months ago
i found a better alternative to bitcoins. go to azeroth, mine mithril ore, smelt into mithril bars, trade for 2 hours with hookers in thailand, sell those 2 hours to a french businessman for 10 bars of premium swiss chocolate, trade for 2 li-ion batteries from a korean housewife, trade those batteries for 3 burritos at the chipotle next to my house. either that, or just walk next door to the chipotle, pay $20 for the burritos & save 40 hours of idiot wasted time trying to be a hipster doofus
philnigable 4 months ago
@WickedMagiotheWest Hahaha, dude woah, you're amazing. Fucking human encyclopedia.
Well I don't understand, how "mining" works.
They take PC usage...then give you money? What do they get exactly?
Sylinic 4 months ago
@WickedMagiotheWest I see, forgive me for i've just woken up and groggy, but is Bitcoin illegal?
Sylinic 4 months ago
@WickedMagiotheWest I don't think you give them enough credit, this is common practice, and pretty effective. So many people know that Bitcoin is great, but these comments are littered with unexplained hate, idk. Maybe i'm just paranoid.
Sylinic 4 months ago
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cycletrade 4 months ago
Bitcoins are fucking amazing, don't listen to the nay sayers. This is a huge threat to banks, I have no doubt they launched a campaign to soil the name and turn people away.
Sylinic 4 months ago 28
Back when I started I bought a lot of coins because they were cheap. I sold them for a ridiculous profit when the price was skyrocketing about 6 months ago or so. It worked out for me but I think I was lucky
I regularly use peoples pyramid schemes and I always get money back, I'm sure some people don't. I have made more then I have ever made in lotto or casinos... or the stock market for that matter
I am currently using a scheme called "Funtime Ponzo". I've done it twice and got money back
CowsAndStripes 4 months ago
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? ... THIS IS WORSE THAN FIAT CURRENCY.
Y3GRAPHIX 4 months ago
what is bitcoin? bullshit
xchipsasx 4 months ago
is something i can not understand.. if the transaction are made from the succesefull miners, then in 5-10 years when the completion of a block will be more scarce who will do the transactions? the hole market will wate for a day or more so all transactions will complete?
Basilisp89 4 months ago
0:55 - 1:02 = Hacker haven
CTSaints89 4 months ago
Send me bitcoin :DDD
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wojtuniakfrog 4 months ago
@andrewyaoauatauabaea Well if it were too easy, everyone would be doing it.
Badgaldinger 4 months ago
Step 1: Download.
Step 2: Start mining
Step 3: Watch the money flow in...
Badgaldinger 4 months ago
@Badgaldinger
You forgot step 2.5)
Wait 10 years for a block
or
buy $2000 worth of video cards
andrewyaoauatauabaea 4 months ago
i tryed to search for bitch and this showed up,lol
Legorocks4me 4 months ago
@Legorocks4me Same
Snivy932 4 months ago
Can someone please send me some..... I cant start mining and the faucet isnt working.. 1PkFXR6JdVhcr5HpcJrAtJmurbdmRNTtD6
DanelectroT 5 months ago
So if you had hundreds of computers running this program you would have a small 'mine' and never have to work again? How is this fair?
exodous02 5 months ago
Nice scam.
FreedomFighterUK 5 months ago
Unbelievable! People are actually involved in this.....how long do you think it'll be before the Jews shut it down? No usary for the Jews means no currency...period.
charleyhellfire 5 months ago
You have countries out there with real assets like oil and their dollar per us dollar isn't worth near as much as a Bitcoin. How is this possible?
Diff4us 5 months ago
I still barely understand Bitcoin.
SRMkay 5 months ago
WoW... for those who don't realize this is similar to the fiat currencies, you're an idiot! The fees are similar to interest on fiat currencies. This would work only if people aren't going to get fees up the a $ $.
Kingfanpaul 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
creating money out of thin air. Now that makes a lot of sense
redballyou 5 months ago
bitcoin = cocaine and guns.
Braleven 5 months ago