@cyberlord64 Hydrogen is essentially only a battery. It can be used in nuclear fusion to withdraw the energy stored within however we can't get it to work and we're running out of time. Alternatively it would need to be charged up with sufficient energy from other sources. t's not a power source on its own.
If you read some of the original books on peak oil, the theory has debunked its self as it implies that energy production would never surpass the total output of the 1955-1960 period has Hubbert predicted.
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@BackToBiscuits Which "original books"? Hubbert based his 1956 prediction on the idea that the peak of discovery of large oil fields would precede peak extraction by about forty years, and that prediction proved true in the Lower 48 US states, where it's been downhill ever since the early 70s. Global discoveries peaked in the mid 60s, and the rate of extraction worldwide appears to have stalled around 2006. It's not a theory, and it hasn't been debunked. The facts speak for themselves.
I can't wait until the oil production finally becomes critical. Maybe then human life will start to return to a more natural pattern and the inflated human population will finally start to decline to a more sensible level.
@wks1978 I doubt it, Olduvai theory (related to PO) suggests that problems will become very serious by 2015 and at theorises industrial civilisation will be over by 2030. Of course there could be variations in dates and times but if its true you have 18 years. Would that be after your time?
@Standuble I would welcome industrial civilisation being over in 18 years time. I would be happy to see the population growth halted and civilisation return to a pre industrial model. I just don't think it will happen that soon.
@wks1978 I think in the right conditions it can happen very quickly. Even if it were to decline at a constant rate to a population of 1 billion over 100 years it would be a net loss of 150,000 (zero pop growth) people across the world every day, I think after 5 years you'll start to really see the difference. If it takes 30 years it'll be even more fun!
In the end though people can't survive a month without food, without food aid I predict massive population drop very quickly.
@wks1978 I agree that a smaller population would be nice, but I would definitely not be happy this this happen in the next 18 years, because the only way it could happen is billions dying very unpleasant deaths, to put it mildly. :-\
@wks1978 World oil production rates peaked in 2006.
Though new discoveries and a slump in global demand have altered the nature of the end of cheap oil, it seems inevitable that those living today will see at least the beginnings of this.
The reality is that our massive global overpopulation depends on a superabundance of cheap energy. We're going to lose that soon; what happens next will surely be one of the greatest human catastrophes in all of recorded history.
@Keinlicht I will be sad to see it go. Just think of what we as humans could have achieved in this utopic 150 year period had we put our minds to it e.g. space travel. Instead we let it all slip through our fingers to potentially become a future society which may forever be looking backwards, at an image of a bygone age which drifts from memory into legend and then into myth.
@Standuble Truly we had all we could have needed to create a just, sustainable society which looks towards science and human betterment. The temples of the ancients would be but miniature sets for the grandeur an enlightened age could have brought us at this time..
But instead we built endless miles of suburbs, strengthened the institutions which have led before to so much pain and bloodshed. We squandered our gift and filled the skies with the stain of our indifference, now we will suffer.
Intresting insight, one that surely has come up to me before, but what were the alternatives?
The last moment that the world really could have gone into a diffrent direction of devellopment was WW2 in my view.
And that would give you a choice between the 3th Reich, the Soviet union and the USA.
Now i would say the 3th Reich had the most potentials, cause im sure you learned at school that they had population controll in their mind, and also not a useless consumption lifestyle.
@Clausewitzz When I originally that I was thinking more along a couple of lines a) Commercialisation of the space programme. They were designing plans for space planes in the 1950s before its nationalisation as a political pantomine in the 1960s. Could we have possibly found a way to mine the moon or even the asteroid belt had it really taken off? Instead we lost 50 years and are perhaps now indefinately stuck on Earth.
I also considered point b) (more grounded) - US+USSR co-operation rather
@Clausewitzz than constant tension, if only what the USA and Russia have today. If we had turned all those decades of cheap domestic oil and materials into a more "civil" purpose than perhaps we could have avoided this mess. But I hear that the USA would have likely fallen back into depression had it stopped its military machine or turned away from foreign interest. Alternatively if the world had stepped in and stopped Hitler (and also Stalin) in the 1930s by whatever means.
@Standuble Couldn't agree more, especially with your reference to space exploration. It infuriates me to no end that mankind seems to have no interest in getting into space at all. We're running out of time but we just don't seem to care.
@antred11 Thats my concern too, after the oil and the good coal peak we'll end up living in a neo-17th century slum or worse with no future, when we could have been learning the universe's secrets in space. Industrial civilization was like a one off loan of money, which rather than invest in something greater we squandered. "Wasted potential and opportunity" doesn't begin to cover it.
Is there any way to get enough energy to make escape velocity and space manufacturing without oil?
@Standuble Yep. Have you read about some of the stuff NASA was considering in the 70s? Possible space habitat designs like O'Neill cylinders, Bernal spheres, stanford toruses and such like? And how O'Neill envisioned building huge orbital solar power collectors to solve all our energy needs? Amazing stuff. While his projections seemed wildly optimistic, all of it certainly sounds doable. It would have been quite expensive and taken a lot of determination, but it would have payed ...
@Standuble off many times over. Problem is, we never even started to build the basic infra structure (a minor orbital settlement at first, then mining colonies on the moon / in the asteroid belt, then larger habitats). Instead we're still throwing money and resources out the window bailing out banks and failed industries or fighting pointless wars. I really hope we can still turn things around, but it's really hard to be optimistic about things. :-(
@antred11@antred11 Yeah I've read quite a lot regarding what could have been, it's such a shame. Part of me still wonders whether it will all still be possible though I fear that I'm bordering on blind faith rather than atheism. May end up praying to be visited by aliens or for humanity to be gifted with a dozen super geniuses or something :)
If they were still able to do their one-way trip missions to Mars/Moon/asteroids etc. before PO hits I would volunteer. Rather die dreaming.
@antred11 this has been my question for the past decade. When i was a kid in school back in the 1990 the teachers were telling us that by the end of the year 2000 there would be flying cars, space bases etc etc. its been 12 years after that and the only thing that people seem to care about technologicly-wise is when the next iphone or some new computer will be released. oh yeah that is a good idea. like diving deeper into the oblivion of a screen will solve anyones problems.
1.The US people wont pay for a huge Military,CIA,FBI UNLESS they believe there's a huge enemy that makes it necessary.
2.The US people wont support a war UNLESS they believe it's for a noble cause.
So,No 911=No huge military,CIA,FBI (because Communism fell in1991) & no Middle Eastern/Central Asian wars for control of the world's energy resources (oil/Gas).Control the energy=control the world.911=inside job.Don't be an idiot.There's no lying to God on judgment day.
@onlytwocents There is plenty of oil, but plenty of that is very, very expensive to extract and far harder to get out than the sweet, crude. Like trying to get the scrapes out the bottom of a barrel. The Right Wing seem to believe that getting the scrapes out the very bottom is as easy as taking the pickings right from the top as they fail to take the above into account.
Also, if the USA gives up foreign oil it will eventually buckle under its own extraction costs. The 1950s are long gone.
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@bvssvni oil was an energy lottery win. humanity was a splurging lottery winner for 150+ years, now the win is half spent and its' apparent we have to go back to a low income from a shit job
@walter0bz The primates are too scared to leave the tree, no matter if half the trees in the forest are burned down to the ground. The leader primate punishes the other primates if he doesn't like they are leaving to show the other primates he still got power. Here we are, 200 000 years later and the trees are burning again. In 200 000 years we probably are laughing at 2011. "They didn't had unlimited energy like us, still they believed they could spend unlimited energy. Doh! Hahahaha"
@bvssvni I liked the ironic optimism in your otherwise pessimistic post for it suggests that humanity would ascend to unthinkable new heights of energy and technology and the end of the age of oil is only a temporary setback. Nothing can replace oil, the only alternative (which only replaces energy production and not commodity manufacture) is nuclear fusion. Though how the heck do we build a Tokamak and chamber without cheap metal production courtesy of oil?
@Standuble In a world lacking oil, people will die. Those who will be best capable of surviving is those with ability of new thinking. I think such people might even be kidnapped like after 2nd world war. New lasers, nano-technology and semi-conductors can open up new doors to cheap and efficient use of energy. A smaller human population does not need that much oil, but think of how valuable google's or alexandria's backup of internet is and I don't think people will climb back to the trees.
@Standuble I don't think it's plausible that humans will develop in the general directions as it does now. Will it be a world war? Nobody can afford the consequences. I rather think a world government will be formed that controls the money supply. The problem is that a world government given power by ignorant people simply can't survive itself. Stephen Hawking said "Science will win, because it works". Science in the future will affect society as a whole, change of culture is necessary.
The solution to Peak Oil is obvious.As luck would have it this crisis has befallen us at a time when the USA is the world's sole super power.The solution=Brute military force.Of Course,a way to get the people 'on board' with the needed war would have to be found found.I suggest a big 'terrorist' attack.Made for TV,dramatic! Explosion,flames etc.A few thousand dead.Pin it on Muslims & the people would beg for the needed wars.Did someone think of that already?
@walter0bz Perhaps, though from my point of view it has always presented itself as a distant threat to the general public and never a real and imminent one. Many people have experienced "waking up" after discovering peak oil so there is no reason not to assume many in the public wouldn't do the same. GW/climate change was treated in a way that the masses would appreciate (or at least recognise) it and its potential dangers, nothing to that assertive degree has been achieved with oil.
simple: peak oil, plus greenhouse effect explained to me decades ago. solution: given that i like modern comforts delivered by car, dont have kids who are hence in the same dead end.
@walter0bz Hmm, don't know how thats related to the point I made but I also do not have any kids, nor do I possess a car. In fact I usually walk ten miles round trip to work. I wonder if my regular pilgrimage down the busy road has inspired others to do the same.
@vinternatten Ron Paul is but one man, can a single man stop an avalanche? If he can then just rig the election so he wins (unethical I know) because I doubt anyone else could stop one. If he can't then the USA will probably collapse, long before 2020 (did Hubbard also predict the USA collapsing by then too?)
@vinternatten Indeed, but to be metaphorical a general needs his army. He would need to get the US public to listen to him, recognise the danger and follow his lead. Unfortunately the general belief is that they are too lazy and cynical to even listen to a thing he says. If Americans can't get out of their armchairs, then how will he get America out of the gutter?
@Standuble So our disagreement is whether or not the American public is mature enough for his message? My feeling is they are. For all the people out there that are more intrerested in the truth than partisan bullshit, I think Ron Paul rings bells. I'm hoping and believing those bells will awaken some dignity and integrity in the American people. I mean, what else chance have they got from getting themselves out of the shit hole?
@vinternatten Hopefully they will be smart enough, well enough anyway. I agree with you though, Ron Paul is the best man for the job. I hope he would be remembered as the man who helped America through the many years of recession and who paved the way for America to survive the Peak OIl transition.
News flash for all you gas junkie idiots that still go out and buy gas cars, the government oil reserves that are in storage is not going to be used by us, it’s in reserve for government use only, to power their military. So when we run out of oil you will be screwed.
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Actually I think we've already used 3/4 of the oil. People say we have hundreds of years left and that might be true without growth. But what's going to happen when the billion chinese people on bicycles start using cars?
@rudemood2011 They've already started, big time. There are multiple Chinese cities which used to be nearly 100% bicycles five years ago but who have now starting BANNING cycling on their streets, because they're getting in the way of the cars!
Looks like i was right again,a few years ago you said oil would reach around 200 to 300 a barrel i told you the market would never let that happen cause nobody could afford 200 to 300 a barrel. I will say it again, If peak oil does happen or is happening the market is the one that changes not the price of oil. Its an up and down hill cycle the price of oil goes up the market will go down, down and down. However the price of oil will go up but not dramatically like you stated.
@dissturbbed Wouldn't it be possible if the nations in question were desperate enough, I mean really desperate? If they were run by incompetents with lack of foresight, they would buy the oil and ignore whether they can afford it or not. Being willing to pay for it is different than being able to pay for it.
Could it not also become very high prices even with a bad market if the oil companies become desperate to? If they ever find themselves EROEI e.g. 1.2:1 and desperately need profit?
@Standuble Maybe if the world had a money tree and it didn't effect the economy then sure i can see the price of oil going up to even 500 a barrel. The world economy especially now are so tied up into oil its ridiculous, oil/fossil fuels dictate the economy everything else is just secondary and that includes the great depression. Contrary to popular belief the oil companies dont want the price of oil to climb too high otherwise they will pay for it later when the economy collapses.
@dissturbbed I agree with you on the last part. People seem to forget that the oil companies are businesses and if their buyers of oil go bankrupt due to the high prices then they're essentially dead in the water as well.
@dustmonk74 Yeah you can, if you use batteries hope they don't run out of power, if you own an allotment hope a hungry mob doesn't just walk on to it and starts picking at the crops etc.
Well we are not sure whether this is true or not but then some of the people had told me that not all the people around the world knows whether this is real since the oils are being found somewhere one by one and plus America is not using the petroleum gases from Alaska til it depletes completely..
Hoo boy, humanity is fucked. I hope if it all goes to hell our descendants would forgive us or forget about us. As much as I like the idea of living like some sort of romanticised hunter gatherer in some great forest somewhere, I wouldn't like to see everything we've fought to build over the past few centuries fall apart and never be able to return. I hope if it does go down a notch, humanity finds a way to come back up.
Bin Ladin collapsed the USSR leaving the USA as the world's sole superpower making invasion of the ME possible for the oil,If the people would go along with the wars.Bin Ladin got them to with 911.Then he stepped forward & replaced the USSR to keep the US defense $ flowing.He did it all.He worked for the CIA the whole time until his death(whenever it was) EVERYTHING he did benefited them!What would the USA defense budget be like today without 911?CIA budget?911 was an inside job.
Peak Oil is a wonderful scaremongerin con, from the makers of that other apocalyptic rip off that lined the pockets of computer engineers, the Millenium Bug. Don't believe it.
@DaveJP1973 oh, and the Millennium thing? there was no evidence that that was ever true, people just believed it. and not even a whole lot of people. in fact, computer manufacturers and experts all said that nothing would happen, and nothing did. in this case, there is evidence that this is true, and experts do say that it will happen. therefore, this is nothing like that at all. and millennium has two n's, by the way.
@DaveJP1973 Thank you for pointing out the Ns thing. Didn't know how to do that, so I guessed. Also, I don't know what you're referring to when you say "'and' likewise". It's possible you were referring to capitalization, but seeing as the 'and' is not capitalized, it's hard to tell. And I'm sorry if I came across rude when telling you how to spell millennium, I was only trying to be helpful, not pedantic. On the other hand, seeing as you are, I have decided to use proper grammar this time.
@DaveJP1973 I also find it interesting how you had no response to any part of my comment besides the grammar. Not meaning to imply anything, just pointing it out.
@Murtag999 Ok then, I take it your stance on the Millennium bug is based on considered research and open minded dialogue with 'experts' in that field? The millennium bug was a nonsense and so is this latest scaremongerer's delight, Peak Oil. Were you around in the 1980s, I'd bet you loved every minute of the Cold War?
@DaveJP1973 Actually, I was agreeing that the Millennium bug was nonsense. I was only saying that not very many people believed in it, and everyone that could be considered an expert, such as computer manufacturers, said it was nonsense. Peak Oil on the other hand, is real.
Though I fail to see how the Cold War comes into this at all, I take offence that you say I would have enjoyed it. I see no reason anyone could enjoy and arms race, except possibly manufacturers of those weapons.
@DaveJP1973 Don't feel too proud of yourself. I got over it really quickly once I reminded myself you're just some idiot on YouTube who thinks that oil, a finite resource, is going to last forever. Now, seeing as we have degraded into insulting each other (you a little sooner than I) rather than debate the topic, I think I'm done talking to you. In the unlikely case you actually come up with anything other than insults, feel free to reply. Cheers.
@Murtag999 Oh no, think nothing of it. Not sure where I starting doling out insults, but your prose has been so erratic perhaps you meant something else and just typed the word 'insulting' by mistake. To address your first point, I realised with your initial post you were 'just some idiot on YouTube' - but I was far too polite to point that out. Oil, if managed correctly, will be plentiful - and you might actually enjoy your life if you just chill out.
@DaveJP1973 Actually I'm enjoying life a lot right now. And it's interesting how you say 'if managed correctly' because it really isn't. And 'plentiful' isn't exactly the word I would use. Perhaps 'it will last longer' is more apt. Also, seeing as it escaped your notice, saying I would have enjoyed the Cold War is an insult, and calling me pedantic could also be considered an insult.
I fail to see how my responses were 'erratic', but perhaps you typed that by mistake.
@DaveJP1973 I also just wanted to say that whether or not Peak Oil is true right now, it will be true at some point. And I don't think that we should just keep doing what we're doing and wait for the inevitable. We should start using different methods of fueling our cars and different methods of generating electricity before our oil does run out. Then, if all goes well, we won't even need to burn oil by the time it runs out.
@Murtag999 Thank God for that, I've been holding my breath waiting for an objective point.
No, you're right - Peak Oil will come - but not in our lifetimes. Technology IS preparing for the day that renewables have to be the 1st energy choice, certainly in transport. But when that day comes I expect there will be a whole new generation of panic-mongerers whipping up a Peak Hydrogen scare story for us all. If P.O. was just around the corner Shell and BP would have told us a long time ago.
@DaveJP1973 - they turned economy into ponzi scheme when they realized they can't keep real economy going.
Main reason they can't pay back is, not enough resources for real productive work.
we had property boom for 10 years ? - market signal was expectation that resources don't exist to increase future supply of housing/produce real infrastructure. Credit bubble needs endless economic growth - comes to an end when resource limits of earth (mostly Oil) met
@DaveJP1973 - oil price will stay haywire: oil price falls -> economy re-starts-> price spike in oil -> new resession wave-> when enough jobs destroyed, price of oil falls again -> repeat until we're back in the stone age.
i've just read up your posts, you're clearly an idiot.
"i'll beleive it when i see empty petrol pumps' - no - the body is made of water, you dont' need to remove all the water before you die of dehydration. similarly the economy doesn't need to run out of oil before serious problems start (like, people turning to housing ponzi schemes instead of real economic growth). the supply just needs to stop growing. "empty petrol pumps" is when its far too late
@DaveJP1973 And I was saying that to point out the fact that you failed to respond to the rest of my comment, instead choosing to focus on the grammar. When I said I didn't mean to imply anything, I meant I wasn't trying to insinuate that you were attempting to avoid responding to the more political aspect of my comment because you had nothing to say on the matter, or something along those lines. Just trying to alleviate your obvious confusion on the matter.
@crudeoilsystems yeah, you're an idiot. that makes no sense first of all, how could a society that depends almost entirely on oil have too much? the only way that would make sense is if we were drowning in it, which is next to impossible. as explained in my comment below, to DaveJP1973, oil WILL run out eventually, and appears to be on a decrease right now. we need to find new ways of generating energy now, because when the oil is gone, it's gone forever. and it'll be gone fairly soon.
@DaveJP1973 ... are you serious? you do realize that oil is a finite resource, right? and as i assume you don't know what that means, going by your comment, it means that there is not an infinite amount of it, and we will run out. it is only a question of when, and it seems that there will be a massive decline within our lifetimes. now, tell me how, as a society, we could do things without oil? plastic is made of oil, and most electricity is generated by burning either oil or coal.
Hybrid bikes have decent range and speed, and cost a fraction of autos. Trips within 7 miles of your home can be easily made by someone in good shape on one of these. Your car saved for longer outings.
i see it very simple. oil pipes,production,spills make a mess. do renewable energy sources make a mess or produce energy in enough amounts? if renewables make enough energy and no mess just go with renewable. debating peak oil etc is not as important as knowing oil is messy and renewables are not.
so old fashioned to build houses etc to old designs just build them all with solar panels & water purifiers.seems logical.
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Hemp - The Environmentally Sustainable Alternative (Part 1)
Peak oil or not, exponential growth with no sign of slowing down is going to fuck up this world very soon.
Nothing is wrong with conserving, everything is wrong with blind consumption. You think CNN will reflect reality? Owned by TIME WARNER. It is in any corporations nature to promote consumption. Only idiots shoot themselves in the foot.
You think the government will enlighten you? They are also basically owned by corporations. It is not EVIL. It is just the way it is.
@lastmondaypast1 Becoming aware of the information on current production and looking at past trends, it's possible to make some fairly well-educated guesses on where things are going. Based on those guesses, you can take precautionary measures to try to cope with potential problems.
Still, we're embedded in increasingly complex and chaotic systems, where unpredictable events and behaviors emerge unexpectedly, so the best we can hope for is resilience in the face of the unexpected.
I really think we can get off of petroleum quickly enough, except for one thing. Many chemicals, such as most plastics, require petroleum to make. How would we make them?
@SpaceTime4D with tons of oil energy focused towards getting off oil we could manage the transition fairly smooth experts say, but the longer we wait the worse it will be. A healthy nation is flexible and strong and able to adapt, but an oil starved nation with all the consequences that follow make it much much harder. If peak oil is now we are fucked many people say. We should have made major transformation 20 years before peak for smooth sailing. Makes me laugh. We deserve punishment
If peak oil is NOW it's gonna hurt bad regardless. Just look at a population graph and an oil graph at the same time and we humans look like a bunch of monkies with a shit load of bananas.
The thing to do would be to put a progressively increasing tax on oil to curb consumption. This would extend our supply while forcing the economy to shift to more local markets (like for food) so that when we cross over the hump, we don't get shocked by the sudden unavailability of the commodity that almost all of our economy relies on. This would, of course, be so unpopular a policy that you will certainly never hear it advocated by any politician. By the way, in Alberta oil is 1.29 a liter.
The Asian equivalent of the Freemasons are now in control, its all over the internet. Iraq was first country to want to change to trading oil in Euros, not dollars and in Asia most countries want to do same. Do you know what would happen to the dollar if it was not used as the sole monetary exchange for oil worldwide? Its value would drop to a quarter! So, you can see why the Republicans like oil.
This is without considering the untapped vast reserves of the Arctic, Falklands and Gulf of Mexico, not to mention the biggest find on US soil ever (in Alaska) in recent years. Many old oil fields are self-replenishing from upwelling from deeper down. Despite what the oil companies would have you believe through the media they control (to keep prices at a premium), we are not about to run out of oil, not in your life time anyway. Google peak oil myth for more links.
@thegreatauk01 Google "abiotic oil myth" for many other links with far more reliable sources of information. No one is saying we are about to run out of oil. Peak oil says there's probably half the total global reserves left - but they'll be more difficult and more expensive to obtain, and that means problems with the rate of flow relative to escalating demand. If you don't understand the argument, you can't expect to contribute to the solution.
@Oilyboyd I understand the arguements, please watch Peak Oil Myth - Scam Busted by Noe van Hulst by YouriCarma former Secretary General of the International Energy Forum. I also understand that offshore oil is harder to extract.
@Oilyboyd please watch Myth: The World is Running Out of Oil (Peak Oil) by populartechnology. It does not mean oil will be cleaner. Besides all these resources of oil, there is far more natural gas.
@thegreatauk01 John Stossel talks to Peter Huber to promote a book, and that's proof that peak oil is a myth? It is now abundantly clear to me that you do not understand the argument. And just for the record, yes, the planet will put a stop to our use of fossil fuels. It's doing so already. To claim that it's "just" a matter of the economics of the situation fails to comprehend that economics is a subset of the environment and the amount of energy available to us to carry on economic activity.
@Oilyboyd You are certainly not looking at both sides of the argument. You follow what the media is saying, what makes you so certain you are right? I think there are a lot of smarter people up there who are putting my side of the argument, so why are you so arrogant?
@thegreatauk01 I've spent well over six years reading through production statistics and petroleum geologist reports, following the arguments on The Oil Drum, and listening to technology enthusiasts, conspiracy theorists, and abiotic oil proponents making counter-arguments. There are over a thousand comments responding to this video; if you read through them all, you'll find that you've said nothing new or particularly convincing. Do the research. Come to your own conclusions.
@Oilyboyd You haven't read my articles and did not know the research I've done. You do not say how Noe van Hulst can be wrong, surely he knows. Just because we are at different conclusions now, does not mean we might not change given enough evidence. That's called keeping an open mind.
@Oilyboyd By the way, Just saying your right and others 'don't understand' as well as been simplistically childish also detracts from your credibility.
Azerbaijan. This tiny country has larger oil and natural gas reserves than any other on earth, most below its portion of the Caspian Sea. The neighbouring states hold plenty too, its estimated that roughly 15 billion barrels of oil and about 9 trillion cubic meters of natural gas lie beneath the soil of Afghanistan's neighbours, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Peak oil is a myth to keep prices high.
Aint gonna happen...There is five times as much non-conventional oil as there is conventional oil, so what will most likely happen is that we will just have to adjust to 150mpg or more scooters. If we dont get rid of our big luxury cars and suvs then sure we are headed toward a cliff but this will never happen simply because of demand destruction, not everybody can afford 5 bucks per gallon unless you live in Europe where you dont have to drive as far and every thing you drive is small.
'GasHole full documentary is now available on youtube revealing oil companies conspiring against the 100mile per gallon car...and the disappearance of Tom Vogel inventor of the vapour engine...
The worst part about this video is it tries to use patriotic-sounding drums to put forth a socialist view. That's a form of heresy. Mocking the Founding Fathers.
We should have just kept things the way they used to be. The minute we started making soulless cars god punished us with peak oil. The last time god bought a car at the dealership was 1969 when he bought his corvette and never again will he and so we're being punished for our sin. His 1959 Cadillac, 1959 Impala, 1963 Impala, 1960 Impala, 1964 Impala, 1959 Buick, 1947 Cadillac, 1958 Impala, 1960 Cadillac, and his 1957 Bel Air are falling apart.
Anyone notice recently that the Saudis ramped up their oil production to "make up" for the loss of Libyan oil production, only to ramp it down again only a month later?
Why? Because the Europeans don't want their heavy sour grade.
They want light sweet crude (Brent North Sea - now in raid decline, Libya - out for the count at the moment, Nigeria - subject to instability) for their refined low-sulphur/ash diesel for their low-emission diesel engines.
The few of my friends who will even talk about this subject say things like, "sounds plausible, but I'm not sure I believe it." Not sure you believe what, that a nonrenewable resource we use hand over fist is going to run out? Or that running out of a resource on which we depend utterly will result in a humanitarian catastrophe? These are not things to "believe" or "not believe." They're goddamn axioms. Most people are in complete DENIAL.It's lunacy.
Yeah, we were there...4 years ago. I'm mildly depressed about the future to be honest, but it's not all bad. We can change the way we live. Don't drive, don't buy from huge corporations, and stop leaving the lights on!
This reminds me of a story (from 40 years ago) I read of a man who in a dream claimed to travel to the future. He said he went to 2100 and the world was but an echo of its former self, he saw New York City, which had been destroyed but was in the process of being rebuilt, presumably after a very tough century where so much and so very many were lost. I wonder sometimes whether that truly is our future.
With all that is happening I sometimes wish I could die. If only we could go into space.
Well, if we find efficient ways to extract oil-sand and oil-shells, and start pumping up the wast oil in Iraq, we can push peak oil forward another 30-40 years. But sooner or later, its coming.
@sangolt88 There is no "efficient" way to extract oil from tar sands - it's an environmental disaster. The same is basically true for shale (your "oil-shells"?) - the energy it takes to produce usable oil from this stuff is almost the same as the energy we get out of it, and the waste is atrocious. Peak oil is now. Deepwater drilling, tar sands, shale, these are the desperate measures of a culture addicted to rapidly depleting fossil fuels.
@Oilyboyd Oil shale yes, my English is a little rusty. But I totally agree. The realistic approach is ignored by the governments and companies around the world. Even Saudi Arabia is hiding how much they have left in reserves, and they deny the peak at all. We are closing in at 90 million barrels per day consumption, and its going to be interesting to see if we will ever be able to produce that amount for a long time.
@Oilyboyd And even though I personally hate the thought of oil shale and oil sand production, it will be produced by Canada and Venezuela (where the oil sands are) and 70 % of the worlds oil shale is in the US, and I believe they will start up production of that, even though its an expensive and polluting way of energy.
@sangolt88 NIKOLA TESLA could have saved us from this 100 yrs ago! please look it up, he created a wireless energy system that allowed energy to be obtained anywhere on earth! i put up info on my youtube and i demostrate a 20 ft wireless transmission to prove that the system works! we could build it right away and get off of this oil dependence, you can run cars wirelessly. please read tesla's "increasing human energy" it tells u real clean energy
@Oilyboyd Sure, but if we can squeeze out enough oil from wherever we can find it it'll be the next generation who has to feel the pain, not us. I'm childfree, you might want to consider that choice too.
@Oilyboyd I Couldnt Agree with you more.. We desperately need to Transition away from Oil and Mining! There are so many natural solutions to be had! Luv and Peace Trishwildfire! Heres to hopefully a More Sustainable Futurefor Us ALL!
@Oilyboyd, of course, many right-wing airheads deny that shale oil is actually part of the Peak Oil picture. They don't seem to get the concept of EROEI and null gains. And they sure don't seem to care about what would happen to the land and water in shale country.
@peopleplanetprofits Apparently. See "Looking in the Rear View Mirror" by Phil Hart, published today (May 17) on The Oil Drum. Good summation of the available information.
there is no efficient way to extract oil from tars and sands, its an enviromental suiscide, middle east oil is reaching it's peak now, the only significant amount is in Siberia and the russians are NOT selling it, peak oil is true and is now, wonderfull days to liv4e in, I bought a horse last year , it's truely sustainable
@sangolt88 you cant push peak oil 30-40 years.... in iraq they have one of the largest oil reserves it can only last America 6 months
also the one major flaw in ur arguement is how do u extract oilsand? basically you need to do a shitload of heating processes.... guess what.... it takes oil to heat up the oilsands and to extract it the net energy will never be efficient
@AntiVenomFangX Its hard to predict such an event by exact year, it can be 2015, 2025 or 2030. It all depends on how much more oil we find, how much we're willing to invest in alternative fuels, how much we manage to decrease our use of oil, and how much is left of the current large fields, such as in Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, Mexico and Canada. China and India also increase their use by around 9 % each year, and Saudi Arabia are unwilling to reveal how much oil they have left.
@spartonsfan911 They are both symptomatic of the one big problem afflicting us: our specie's reliance on an industrialized civilization that is designed for infinite growth on a finite planet. Such a strategy is bound to fail, done in by the meteoric rise of our exponentially increasing requirements for resources - energy, food, topsoil, clean water and air - and the power that our tools give us to exploit those resources far beyond nature's somewhat elastic ability to renew them.
@Oilyboyd There have always been folks that say that the carrying capacity of the earth can't be increased due to technological innovation, but they have been proven wrong again and again. At what point does technology experience diminishing returns?
@Jonnybarbs Actually, that's not what they say. Clearly carrying capacity can be increased if you can "borrow" resources from somewhere else to run your technology. But eventually, you will hit the limits - peak oil, depletion of fisheries, exhaustion of ancient aquifers - at which point your technology won't do you any good. It can't "invent" new resources. Draw down your bank account, exhaust your savings, live on credit for awhile, but eventually, without a revenue stream, you'll go broke.
How about this, have your god make you more oil. Better yet have him make more oil for the world just appear. Until then take your shitty god and shove him up your ass. People like you are part of the problem
So, when you see the peak oil section in inside of the video, I could analyze that people doesnt know when does the oil production will really end just like when that cartoon guy was keep climbing up without knowing there is a downhill and got crushed, which means most of the people wont guess where it really ends..
Peak Oil is a huge scam. Just like americas "global warming" scam. Russians proved that oil is a mineral and not a fossil feul. Petroleum is a renewable source. I wish all the idiotic conspiracy theorist would just give it a break already. GET A REAL JOB FOOLS!!!
Do you have any proof that the Earth replenishes oil reserves at the rate of 87 MILLION barrels per day? Even if oil is abiotic in nature (which nearly every credible authority on the subject says it's not), unless Earth can keep up with us, it's a moot point.
Try and imagine what 87 million oil barrels look like. All those barrels stacked up on top of each other. The sheer volume of it. That's 3,654,000,000 gallons PER DAY. This cannot and will not continue indefinitely.
@robophreeq ...you mean any credible source in america lol...all your credible sources think oil is a "fossil Fuel" haha what a joke....the earth is a lot bigger than you think... there is plenty of oil...but if everybody must worry about something.. go ahead..lol.why not...you can add global warming and a bunch of other conspiracys to your list...
this is retarded music
seanincali1 1 week ago
@cyberlord64 Hydrogen is essentially only a battery. It can be used in nuclear fusion to withdraw the energy stored within however we can't get it to work and we're running out of time. Alternatively it would need to be charged up with sufficient energy from other sources. t's not a power source on its own.
Standuble 1 week ago
If you read some of the original books on peak oil, the theory has debunked its self as it implies that energy production would never surpass the total output of the 1955-1960 period has Hubbert predicted.
Check out energyweapon.blogspot.com for a weekly discussion on the politics and economics of the oil and gas industry
BackToBiscuits 2 months ago
@BackToBiscuits Which "original books"? Hubbert based his 1956 prediction on the idea that the peak of discovery of large oil fields would precede peak extraction by about forty years, and that prediction proved true in the Lower 48 US states, where it's been downhill ever since the early 70s. Global discoveries peaked in the mid 60s, and the rate of extraction worldwide appears to have stalled around 2006. It's not a theory, and it hasn't been debunked. The facts speak for themselves.
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BackToBiscuits 2 months ago
what a fuckin bullshit
RedXcz 3 months ago
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palmer1112 3 months ago
They used to have a environment problems but now its about peak oils problem!
samlim94 3 months ago
I can't wait until the oil production finally becomes critical. Maybe then human life will start to return to a more natural pattern and the inflated human population will finally start to decline to a more sensible level.
This will probably be after my time though.
wks1978 3 months ago
@wks1978 I doubt it, Olduvai theory (related to PO) suggests that problems will become very serious by 2015 and at theorises industrial civilisation will be over by 2030. Of course there could be variations in dates and times but if its true you have 18 years. Would that be after your time?
Standuble 3 months ago
@Standuble I would welcome industrial civilisation being over in 18 years time. I would be happy to see the population growth halted and civilisation return to a pre industrial model. I just don't think it will happen that soon.
wks1978 3 months ago
@wks1978 I think in the right conditions it can happen very quickly. Even if it were to decline at a constant rate to a population of 1 billion over 100 years it would be a net loss of 150,000 (zero pop growth) people across the world every day, I think after 5 years you'll start to really see the difference. If it takes 30 years it'll be even more fun!
In the end though people can't survive a month without food, without food aid I predict massive population drop very quickly.
Standuble 3 months ago
@wks1978 I agree that a smaller population would be nice, but I would definitely not be happy this this happen in the next 18 years, because the only way it could happen is billions dying very unpleasant deaths, to put it mildly. :-\
antred11 2 weeks ago
@wks1978 World oil production rates peaked in 2006.
Though new discoveries and a slump in global demand have altered the nature of the end of cheap oil, it seems inevitable that those living today will see at least the beginnings of this.
The reality is that our massive global overpopulation depends on a superabundance of cheap energy. We're going to lose that soon; what happens next will surely be one of the greatest human catastrophes in all of recorded history.
Keinlicht 2 months ago
@Keinlicht I will be sad to see it go. Just think of what we as humans could have achieved in this utopic 150 year period had we put our minds to it e.g. space travel. Instead we let it all slip through our fingers to potentially become a future society which may forever be looking backwards, at an image of a bygone age which drifts from memory into legend and then into myth.
Standuble 2 months ago
@Standuble Truly we had all we could have needed to create a just, sustainable society which looks towards science and human betterment. The temples of the ancients would be but miniature sets for the grandeur an enlightened age could have brought us at this time..
But instead we built endless miles of suburbs, strengthened the institutions which have led before to so much pain and bloodshed. We squandered our gift and filled the skies with the stain of our indifference, now we will suffer.
Keinlicht 2 months ago 8
@Keinlicht how very true. it makes me sad, but don't give up!
HydrogenDominion 2 months ago
@Standuble
Intresting insight, one that surely has come up to me before, but what were the alternatives?
The last moment that the world really could have gone into a diffrent direction of devellopment was WW2 in my view.
And that would give you a choice between the 3th Reich, the Soviet union and the USA.
Now i would say the 3th Reich had the most potentials, cause im sure you learned at school that they had population controll in their mind, and also not a useless consumption lifestyle.
Clausewitzz 1 month ago
@Clausewitzz When I originally that I was thinking more along a couple of lines a) Commercialisation of the space programme. They were designing plans for space planes in the 1950s before its nationalisation as a political pantomine in the 1960s. Could we have possibly found a way to mine the moon or even the asteroid belt had it really taken off? Instead we lost 50 years and are perhaps now indefinately stuck on Earth.
I also considered point b) (more grounded) - US+USSR co-operation rather
Standuble 1 month ago
@Clausewitzz than constant tension, if only what the USA and Russia have today. If we had turned all those decades of cheap domestic oil and materials into a more "civil" purpose than perhaps we could have avoided this mess. But I hear that the USA would have likely fallen back into depression had it stopped its military machine or turned away from foreign interest. Alternatively if the world had stepped in and stopped Hitler (and also Stalin) in the 1930s by whatever means.
Plenty of what ifs.
Standuble 1 month ago
@Standuble Couldn't agree more, especially with your reference to space exploration. It infuriates me to no end that mankind seems to have no interest in getting into space at all. We're running out of time but we just don't seem to care.
antred11 2 weeks ago
@antred11 Thats my concern too, after the oil and the good coal peak we'll end up living in a neo-17th century slum or worse with no future, when we could have been learning the universe's secrets in space. Industrial civilization was like a one off loan of money, which rather than invest in something greater we squandered. "Wasted potential and opportunity" doesn't begin to cover it.
Is there any way to get enough energy to make escape velocity and space manufacturing without oil?
Standuble 2 weeks ago
@Standuble Yep. Have you read about some of the stuff NASA was considering in the 70s? Possible space habitat designs like O'Neill cylinders, Bernal spheres, stanford toruses and such like? And how O'Neill envisioned building huge orbital solar power collectors to solve all our energy needs? Amazing stuff. While his projections seemed wildly optimistic, all of it certainly sounds doable. It would have been quite expensive and taken a lot of determination, but it would have payed ...
antred11 2 weeks ago
@Standuble off many times over. Problem is, we never even started to build the basic infra structure (a minor orbital settlement at first, then mining colonies on the moon / in the asteroid belt, then larger habitats). Instead we're still throwing money and resources out the window bailing out banks and failed industries or fighting pointless wars. I really hope we can still turn things around, but it's really hard to be optimistic about things. :-(
antred11 2 weeks ago
@antred11 @antred11 Yeah I've read quite a lot regarding what could have been, it's such a shame. Part of me still wonders whether it will all still be possible though I fear that I'm bordering on blind faith rather than atheism. May end up praying to be visited by aliens or for humanity to be gifted with a dozen super geniuses or something :)
If they were still able to do their one-way trip missions to Mars/Moon/asteroids etc. before PO hits I would volunteer. Rather die dreaming.
Standuble 2 weeks ago
@Standuble hydrogen does the trick
cyberlord64 1 week ago
@antred11 this has been my question for the past decade. When i was a kid in school back in the 1990 the teachers were telling us that by the end of the year 2000 there would be flying cars, space bases etc etc. its been 12 years after that and the only thing that people seem to care about technologicly-wise is when the next iphone or some new computer will be released. oh yeah that is a good idea. like diving deeper into the oblivion of a screen will solve anyones problems.
cyberlord64 1 week ago
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aaron from US peak oik message board = fuckwit.
bunch of fuckwits.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
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2 fundamental truths:
1.The US people wont pay for a huge Military,CIA,FBI UNLESS they believe there's a huge enemy that makes it necessary.
2.The US people wont support a war UNLESS they believe it's for a noble cause.
So,No 911=No huge military,CIA,FBI (because Communism fell in1991) & no Middle Eastern/Central Asian wars for control of the world's energy resources (oil/Gas).Control the energy=control the world.911=inside job.Don't be an idiot.There's no lying to God on judgment day.
waitew 3 months ago
@onlytwocents There is plenty of oil, but plenty of that is very, very expensive to extract and far harder to get out than the sweet, crude. Like trying to get the scrapes out the bottom of a barrel. The Right Wing seem to believe that getting the scrapes out the very bottom is as easy as taking the pickings right from the top as they fail to take the above into account.
Also, if the USA gives up foreign oil it will eventually buckle under its own extraction costs. The 1950s are long gone.
Standuble 4 months ago
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sebilio 4 months ago
Peak Oil is the theory that after every party, it comes a day without party.
bvssvni 4 months ago
@bvssvni oil was an energy lottery win. humanity was a splurging lottery winner for 150+ years, now the win is half spent and its' apparent we have to go back to a low income from a shit job
walter0bz 4 months ago
@walter0bz The primates are too scared to leave the tree, no matter if half the trees in the forest are burned down to the ground. The leader primate punishes the other primates if he doesn't like they are leaving to show the other primates he still got power. Here we are, 200 000 years later and the trees are burning again. In 200 000 years we probably are laughing at 2011. "They didn't had unlimited energy like us, still they believed they could spend unlimited energy. Doh! Hahahaha"
bvssvni 4 months ago
@bvssvni I liked the ironic optimism in your otherwise pessimistic post for it suggests that humanity would ascend to unthinkable new heights of energy and technology and the end of the age of oil is only a temporary setback. Nothing can replace oil, the only alternative (which only replaces energy production and not commodity manufacture) is nuclear fusion. Though how the heck do we build a Tokamak and chamber without cheap metal production courtesy of oil?
I hope the Olduvai theory is wrong.
Standuble 4 months ago
@Standuble In a world lacking oil, people will die. Those who will be best capable of surviving is those with ability of new thinking. I think such people might even be kidnapped like after 2nd world war. New lasers, nano-technology and semi-conductors can open up new doors to cheap and efficient use of energy. A smaller human population does not need that much oil, but think of how valuable google's or alexandria's backup of internet is and I don't think people will climb back to the trees.
bvssvni 4 months ago
@Standuble I don't think it's plausible that humans will develop in the general directions as it does now. Will it be a world war? Nobody can afford the consequences. I rather think a world government will be formed that controls the money supply. The problem is that a world government given power by ignorant people simply can't survive itself. Stephen Hawking said "Science will win, because it works". Science in the future will affect society as a whole, change of culture is necessary.
bvssvni 4 months ago
The solution to Peak Oil is obvious.As luck would have it this crisis has befallen us at a time when the USA is the world's sole super power.The solution=Brute military force.Of Course,a way to get the people 'on board' with the needed war would have to be found found.I suggest a big 'terrorist' attack.Made for TV,dramatic! Explosion,flames etc.A few thousand dead.Pin it on Muslims & the people would beg for the needed wars.Did someone think of that already?
waitew 4 months ago
This video should be shown to every grade school kid each year....
MsPeakOil 5 months ago 19
@MsPeakOil It should be shown to every adult in the population every year.
Standuble 5 months ago
@Standuble -
we've known this was coming for decades and collectively sleepewalked toward it.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@walter0bz Perhaps, though from my point of view it has always presented itself as a distant threat to the general public and never a real and imminent one. Many people have experienced "waking up" after discovering peak oil so there is no reason not to assume many in the public wouldn't do the same. GW/climate change was treated in a way that the masses would appreciate (or at least recognise) it and its potential dangers, nothing to that assertive degree has been achieved with oil.
Standuble 4 months ago
@Standuble -
simple: peak oil, plus greenhouse effect explained to me decades ago. solution: given that i like modern comforts delivered by car, dont have kids who are hence in the same dead end.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@walter0bz Hmm, don't know how thats related to the point I made but I also do not have any kids, nor do I possess a car. In fact I usually walk ten miles round trip to work. I wonder if my regular pilgrimage down the busy road has inspired others to do the same.
Standuble 4 months ago
PEAK US! How will you ride that slide? Ron Paul is your only answer.
vinternatten 5 months ago
@vinternatten Ron Paul is but one man, can a single man stop an avalanche? If he can then just rig the election so he wins (unethical I know) because I doubt anyone else could stop one. If he can't then the USA will probably collapse, long before 2020 (did Hubbard also predict the USA collapsing by then too?)
Standuble 5 months ago
@Standuble Ron Paul is crystal clear. He is brutally honest. The type of leader and supporters your country desparately needs.
vinternatten 5 months ago
@vinternatten Indeed, but to be metaphorical a general needs his army. He would need to get the US public to listen to him, recognise the danger and follow his lead. Unfortunately the general belief is that they are too lazy and cynical to even listen to a thing he says. If Americans can't get out of their armchairs, then how will he get America out of the gutter?
Standuble 5 months ago
@Standuble So our disagreement is whether or not the American public is mature enough for his message? My feeling is they are. For all the people out there that are more intrerested in the truth than partisan bullshit, I think Ron Paul rings bells. I'm hoping and believing those bells will awaken some dignity and integrity in the American people. I mean, what else chance have they got from getting themselves out of the shit hole?
vinternatten 5 months ago
@vinternatten Hopefully they will be smart enough, well enough anyway. I agree with you though, Ron Paul is the best man for the job. I hope he would be remembered as the man who helped America through the many years of recession and who paved the way for America to survive the Peak OIl transition.
Standuble 5 months ago
News flash for all you gas junkie idiots that still go out and buy gas cars, the government oil reserves that are in storage is not going to be used by us, it’s in reserve for government use only, to power their military. So when we run out of oil you will be screwed.
Blackwater200 5 months ago
For my answer to the peak oil problem, type "Sparxism" into YouTube.
It's in its early stages, so be kind.
simmyjaye 5 months ago
awesome video. Definetly gets the point across.
ohkeepa2012 6 months ago 6
There are 3 things everybody can do:
1. Meat. It's complicated, but believe me: Eat meat every second day instead of every day. 2. Money. Your money is not safe in the bank. Put the somewhere safer, like your pocket. 3. Mind. You need energy and time to adapt to new situations. Plan.
Meat, Money, Mind Remember this.
bvssvni 6 months ago 3
Actually I think we've already used 3/4 of the oil. People say we have hundreds of years left and that might be true without growth. But what's going to happen when the billion chinese people on bicycles start using cars?
rudemood2011 6 months ago
@rudemood2011 They've already started, big time. There are multiple Chinese cities which used to be nearly 100% bicycles five years ago but who have now starting BANNING cycling on their streets, because they're getting in the way of the cars!
Standuble 6 months ago
@rudemood2011 Chinese are already sucking everything dry pal.
SaucisseMerguez 6 months ago
@SaucisseMerguez
There future space programs are gonna prove this.
SgtThom 6 months ago
testing
/watch?v=3_0HaI2TaeA
purplehaze216 7 months ago
Looks like i was right again,a few years ago you said oil would reach around 200 to 300 a barrel i told you the market would never let that happen cause nobody could afford 200 to 300 a barrel. I will say it again, If peak oil does happen or is happening the market is the one that changes not the price of oil. Its an up and down hill cycle the price of oil goes up the market will go down, down and down. However the price of oil will go up but not dramatically like you stated.
dissturbbed 7 months ago
@dissturbbed Wouldn't it be possible if the nations in question were desperate enough, I mean really desperate? If they were run by incompetents with lack of foresight, they would buy the oil and ignore whether they can afford it or not. Being willing to pay for it is different than being able to pay for it.
Could it not also become very high prices even with a bad market if the oil companies become desperate to? If they ever find themselves EROEI e.g. 1.2:1 and desperately need profit?
Standuble 7 months ago
@Standuble Maybe if the world had a money tree and it didn't effect the economy then sure i can see the price of oil going up to even 500 a barrel. The world economy especially now are so tied up into oil its ridiculous, oil/fossil fuels dictate the economy everything else is just secondary and that includes the great depression. Contrary to popular belief the oil companies dont want the price of oil to climb too high otherwise they will pay for it later when the economy collapses.
dissturbbed 7 months ago
@dissturbbed I agree with you on the last part. People seem to forget that the oil companies are businesses and if their buyers of oil go bankrupt due to the high prices then they're essentially dead in the water as well.
Standuble 7 months ago
There are things you can do to prepare for Peak Oil....
dustmonk74 7 months ago
@dustmonk74 Yeah you can, if you use batteries hope they don't run out of power, if you own an allotment hope a hungry mob doesn't just walk on to it and starts picking at the crops etc.
Standuble 7 months ago
Well we are not sure whether this is true or not but then some of the people had told me that not all the people around the world knows whether this is real since the oils are being found somewhere one by one and plus America is not using the petroleum gases from Alaska til it depletes completely..
samlim94 7 months ago
Hoo boy, humanity is fucked. I hope if it all goes to hell our descendants would forgive us or forget about us. As much as I like the idea of living like some sort of romanticised hunter gatherer in some great forest somewhere, I wouldn't like to see everything we've fought to build over the past few centuries fall apart and never be able to return. I hope if it does go down a notch, humanity finds a way to come back up.
Standuble 7 months ago
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waitew 7 months ago
Peak Oil is a wonderful scaremongerin con, from the makers of that other apocalyptic rip off that lined the pockets of computer engineers, the Millenium Bug. Don't believe it.
DaveJP1973 7 months ago
@DaveJP1973 There is actually too much oil ;).
crudeoilsystems 7 months ago
@crudeoilsystems
I'll believe it when I turn up at a petrol station and see empty pumps. Until then...
DaveJP1973 7 months ago
@DaveJP1973 oh, and the Millennium thing? there was no evidence that that was ever true, people just believed it. and not even a whole lot of people. in fact, computer manufacturers and experts all said that nothing would happen, and nothing did. in this case, there is evidence that this is true, and experts do say that it will happen. therefore, this is nothing like that at all. and millennium has two n's, by the way.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@Murtag999 Yes, and 'n's' has no apostrophe. It's Ns or not at all. Ns is neither a possessive pronoun or a contractive verb.
Also, 'therefore' should be 'Therefore,' and 'and' likewise. Two can play at pedantry.
DaveJP1973 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 Thank you for pointing out the Ns thing. Didn't know how to do that, so I guessed. Also, I don't know what you're referring to when you say "'and' likewise". It's possible you were referring to capitalization, but seeing as the 'and' is not capitalized, it's hard to tell. And I'm sorry if I came across rude when telling you how to spell millennium, I was only trying to be helpful, not pedantic. On the other hand, seeing as you are, I have decided to use proper grammar this time.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 I also find it interesting how you had no response to any part of my comment besides the grammar. Not meaning to imply anything, just pointing it out.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@Murtag999 Ok then, I take it your stance on the Millennium bug is based on considered research and open minded dialogue with 'experts' in that field? The millennium bug was a nonsense and so is this latest scaremongerer's delight, Peak Oil. Were you around in the 1980s, I'd bet you loved every minute of the Cold War?
If you're not implying anything, why say it?
DaveJP1973 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 Actually, I was agreeing that the Millennium bug was nonsense. I was only saying that not very many people believed in it, and everyone that could be considered an expert, such as computer manufacturers, said it was nonsense. Peak Oil on the other hand, is real.
Though I fail to see how the Cold War comes into this at all, I take offence that you say I would have enjoyed it. I see no reason anyone could enjoy and arms race, except possibly manufacturers of those weapons.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@Murtag999 Well, that's wonderful. I feel I've actually achieved something by causing you to take offence.
DaveJP1973 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 Don't feel too proud of yourself. I got over it really quickly once I reminded myself you're just some idiot on YouTube who thinks that oil, a finite resource, is going to last forever. Now, seeing as we have degraded into insulting each other (you a little sooner than I) rather than debate the topic, I think I'm done talking to you. In the unlikely case you actually come up with anything other than insults, feel free to reply. Cheers.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@Murtag999 Oh no, think nothing of it. Not sure where I starting doling out insults, but your prose has been so erratic perhaps you meant something else and just typed the word 'insulting' by mistake. To address your first point, I realised with your initial post you were 'just some idiot on YouTube' - but I was far too polite to point that out. Oil, if managed correctly, will be plentiful - and you might actually enjoy your life if you just chill out.
DaveJP1973 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 Actually I'm enjoying life a lot right now. And it's interesting how you say 'if managed correctly' because it really isn't. And 'plentiful' isn't exactly the word I would use. Perhaps 'it will last longer' is more apt. Also, seeing as it escaped your notice, saying I would have enjoyed the Cold War is an insult, and calling me pedantic could also be considered an insult.
I fail to see how my responses were 'erratic', but perhaps you typed that by mistake.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 I also just wanted to say that whether or not Peak Oil is true right now, it will be true at some point. And I don't think that we should just keep doing what we're doing and wait for the inevitable. We should start using different methods of fueling our cars and different methods of generating electricity before our oil does run out. Then, if all goes well, we won't even need to burn oil by the time it runs out.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@Murtag999 Thank God for that, I've been holding my breath waiting for an objective point.
No, you're right - Peak Oil will come - but not in our lifetimes. Technology IS preparing for the day that renewables have to be the 1st energy choice, certainly in transport. But when that day comes I expect there will be a whole new generation of panic-mongerers whipping up a Peak Hydrogen scare story for us all. If P.O. was just around the corner Shell and BP would have told us a long time ago.
DaveJP1973 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 -
peak oil is now and caused the financial crises
walter0bz 4 months ago
@walter0bz
No.... banks lending to people who couldn't pay it back cause the financial crisis.
DaveJP1973 4 months ago
@DaveJP1973 - they turned economy into ponzi scheme when they realized they can't keep real economy going.
Main reason they can't pay back is, not enough resources for real productive work.
we had property boom for 10 years ? - market signal was expectation that resources don't exist to increase future supply of housing/produce real infrastructure. Credit bubble needs endless economic growth - comes to an end when resource limits of earth (mostly Oil) met
walter0bz 4 months ago
@DaveJP1973 - oil price will stay haywire: oil price falls -> economy re-starts-> price spike in oil -> new resession wave-> when enough jobs destroyed, price of oil falls again -> repeat until we're back in the stone age.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@DaveJP1973 -
i've just read up your posts, you're clearly an idiot.
"i'll beleive it when i see empty petrol pumps' - no - the body is made of water, you dont' need to remove all the water before you die of dehydration. similarly the economy doesn't need to run out of oil before serious problems start (like, people turning to housing ponzi schemes instead of real economic growth). the supply just needs to stop growing. "empty petrol pumps" is when its far too late
walter0bz 4 months ago 2
@DaveJP1973 And I was saying that to point out the fact that you failed to respond to the rest of my comment, instead choosing to focus on the grammar. When I said I didn't mean to imply anything, I meant I wasn't trying to insinuate that you were attempting to avoid responding to the more political aspect of my comment because you had nothing to say on the matter, or something along those lines. Just trying to alleviate your obvious confusion on the matter.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@crudeoilsystems yeah, you're an idiot. that makes no sense first of all, how could a society that depends almost entirely on oil have too much? the only way that would make sense is if we were drowning in it, which is next to impossible. as explained in my comment below, to DaveJP1973, oil WILL run out eventually, and appears to be on a decrease right now. we need to find new ways of generating energy now, because when the oil is gone, it's gone forever. and it'll be gone fairly soon.
Murtag999 5 months ago
@Murtag999 Thanks for the comment. Great stuff. Keep it up!
crudeoilsystems 5 months ago
@DaveJP1973 ... are you serious? you do realize that oil is a finite resource, right? and as i assume you don't know what that means, going by your comment, it means that there is not an infinite amount of it, and we will run out. it is only a question of when, and it seems that there will be a massive decline within our lifetimes. now, tell me how, as a society, we could do things without oil? plastic is made of oil, and most electricity is generated by burning either oil or coal.
Murtag999 5 months ago
Hybrid bikes have decent range and speed, and cost a fraction of autos. Trips within 7 miles of your home can be easily made by someone in good shape on one of these. Your car saved for longer outings.
Obesity will fade away at least.
colty77 7 months ago
I'll ride my bike. Nice vid
santiagovalecallampa 8 months ago
i see it very simple. oil pipes,production,spills make a mess. do renewable energy sources make a mess or produce energy in enough amounts? if renewables make enough energy and no mess just go with renewable. debating peak oil etc is not as important as knowing oil is messy and renewables are not.
so old fashioned to build houses etc to old designs just build them all with solar panels & water purifiers.seems logical.
thoughts:
Hemp - The Environmentally Sustainable Alternative (Part 1)
xrnts 8 months ago
Peak oil or not, exponential growth with no sign of slowing down is going to fuck up this world very soon.
Nothing is wrong with conserving, everything is wrong with blind consumption. You think CNN will reflect reality? Owned by TIME WARNER. It is in any corporations nature to promote consumption. Only idiots shoot themselves in the foot.
You think the government will enlighten you? They are also basically owned by corporations. It is not EVIL. It is just the way it is.
It is up to US!
vinternatten 8 months ago 8
sooooo you know the future?
lastmondaypast1 8 months ago
@lastmondaypast1 Becoming aware of the information on current production and looking at past trends, it's possible to make some fairly well-educated guesses on where things are going. Based on those guesses, you can take precautionary measures to try to cope with potential problems.
Still, we're embedded in increasingly complex and chaotic systems, where unpredictable events and behaviors emerge unexpectedly, so the best we can hope for is resilience in the face of the unexpected.
Oilyboyd 8 months ago
well at the point x we have airplanes so i wont fall i will fly..... and land smoothly. :-D
imranbug81 8 months ago
I really think we can get off of petroleum quickly enough, except for one thing. Many chemicals, such as most plastics, require petroleum to make. How would we make them?
SpaceTime4D 8 months ago
@SpaceTime4D with tons of oil energy focused towards getting off oil we could manage the transition fairly smooth experts say, but the longer we wait the worse it will be. A healthy nation is flexible and strong and able to adapt, but an oil starved nation with all the consequences that follow make it much much harder. If peak oil is now we are fucked many people say. We should have made major transformation 20 years before peak for smooth sailing. Makes me laugh. We deserve punishment
vinternatten 8 months ago
If peak oil is NOW it's gonna hurt bad regardless. Just look at a population graph and an oil graph at the same time and we humans look like a bunch of monkies with a shit load of bananas.
vinternatten 8 months ago 2
The thing to do would be to put a progressively increasing tax on oil to curb consumption. This would extend our supply while forcing the economy to shift to more local markets (like for food) so that when we cross over the hump, we don't get shocked by the sudden unavailability of the commodity that almost all of our economy relies on. This would, of course, be so unpopular a policy that you will certainly never hear it advocated by any politician. By the way, in Alberta oil is 1.29 a liter.
jessemaurais 8 months ago
The Asian equivalent of the Freemasons are now in control, its all over the internet. Iraq was first country to want to change to trading oil in Euros, not dollars and in Asia most countries want to do same. Do you know what would happen to the dollar if it was not used as the sole monetary exchange for oil worldwide? Its value would drop to a quarter! So, you can see why the Republicans like oil.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
@thegreatauk01 This is what happens when you respond to fiscal difficulties by printing money.
goonsquid 8 months ago
This is without considering the untapped vast reserves of the Arctic, Falklands and Gulf of Mexico, not to mention the biggest find on US soil ever (in Alaska) in recent years. Many old oil fields are self-replenishing from upwelling from deeper down. Despite what the oil companies would have you believe through the media they control (to keep prices at a premium), we are not about to run out of oil, not in your life time anyway. Google peak oil myth for more links.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
@thegreatauk01 Google "abiotic oil myth" for many other links with far more reliable sources of information. No one is saying we are about to run out of oil. Peak oil says there's probably half the total global reserves left - but they'll be more difficult and more expensive to obtain, and that means problems with the rate of flow relative to escalating demand. If you don't understand the argument, you can't expect to contribute to the solution.
Oilyboyd 8 months ago
@Oilyboyd I understand the arguements, please watch Peak Oil Myth - Scam Busted by Noe van Hulst by YouriCarma former Secretary General of the International Energy Forum. I also understand that offshore oil is harder to extract.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
@Oilyboyd please watch Myth: The World is Running Out of Oil (Peak Oil) by populartechnology. It does not mean oil will be cleaner. Besides all these resources of oil, there is far more natural gas.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
@thegreatauk01 John Stossel talks to Peter Huber to promote a book, and that's proof that peak oil is a myth? It is now abundantly clear to me that you do not understand the argument. And just for the record, yes, the planet will put a stop to our use of fossil fuels. It's doing so already. To claim that it's "just" a matter of the economics of the situation fails to comprehend that economics is a subset of the environment and the amount of energy available to us to carry on economic activity.
Oilyboyd 8 months ago
@Oilyboyd You are certainly not looking at both sides of the argument. You follow what the media is saying, what makes you so certain you are right? I think there are a lot of smarter people up there who are putting my side of the argument, so why are you so arrogant?
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
@thegreatauk01 I've spent well over six years reading through production statistics and petroleum geologist reports, following the arguments on The Oil Drum, and listening to technology enthusiasts, conspiracy theorists, and abiotic oil proponents making counter-arguments. There are over a thousand comments responding to this video; if you read through them all, you'll find that you've said nothing new or particularly convincing. Do the research. Come to your own conclusions.
Oilyboyd 8 months ago
@Oilyboyd You haven't read my articles and did not know the research I've done. You do not say how Noe van Hulst can be wrong, surely he knows. Just because we are at different conclusions now, does not mean we might not change given enough evidence. That's called keeping an open mind.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
@Oilyboyd By the way, Just saying your right and others 'don't understand' as well as been simplistically childish also detracts from your credibility.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
Azerbaijan. This tiny country has larger oil and natural gas reserves than any other on earth, most below its portion of the Caspian Sea. The neighbouring states hold plenty too, its estimated that roughly 15 billion barrels of oil and about 9 trillion cubic meters of natural gas lie beneath the soil of Afghanistan's neighbours, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Peak oil is a myth to keep prices high.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
Aint gonna happen...There is five times as much non-conventional oil as there is conventional oil, so what will most likely happen is that we will just have to adjust to 150mpg or more scooters. If we dont get rid of our big luxury cars and suvs then sure we are headed toward a cliff but this will never happen simply because of demand destruction, not everybody can afford 5 bucks per gallon unless you live in Europe where you dont have to drive as far and every thing you drive is small.
dissturbbed 8 months ago
'GasHole full documentary is now available on youtube revealing oil companies conspiring against the 100mile per gallon car...and the disappearance of Tom Vogel inventor of the vapour engine...
aseireann 8 months ago
Peak oil won't be the end of modern civilization but it will be the end of the culture of mass consumption.
Nightmonkey17 9 months ago 2
All movements go too far - Bertrand Russell.
antitheistpansy 9 months ago
@antitheistpansy I've heard of that guy... he's the crackpot who's trying to bring Newton into the nucleus, right?
SpaceTime4D 8 months ago
The worst part about this video is it tries to use patriotic-sounding drums to put forth a socialist view. That's a form of heresy. Mocking the Founding Fathers.
See my peak oil videos for the RealTruth(tm).
HorseCents 9 months ago
Btw, notice the fellow in the video is most happy driving the circa-1960s car. Case in point.
Supergungun 9 months ago
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And let me not forget his 1963 Corvette.
Supergungun 9 months ago
We should have just kept things the way they used to be. The minute we started making soulless cars god punished us with peak oil. The last time god bought a car at the dealership was 1969 when he bought his corvette and never again will he and so we're being punished for our sin. His 1959 Cadillac, 1959 Impala, 1963 Impala, 1960 Impala, 1964 Impala, 1959 Buick, 1947 Cadillac, 1958 Impala, 1960 Cadillac, and his 1957 Bel Air are falling apart.
Supergungun 9 months ago
Anyone notice recently that the Saudis ramped up their oil production to "make up" for the loss of Libyan oil production, only to ramp it down again only a month later?
Why? Because the Europeans don't want their heavy sour grade.
They want light sweet crude (Brent North Sea - now in raid decline, Libya - out for the count at the moment, Nigeria - subject to instability) for their refined low-sulphur/ash diesel for their low-emission diesel engines.
The world is running out of sweet crude.
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FatReleaseSystem 9 months ago
I don't care how much oil is left. It's still a good idea to conserve.
chuckbyf1 9 months ago
There is plenty of oil, but just not allowed to touch it. These environmental nut jobs should be arrested.
skimboardmonster 9 months ago
The few of my friends who will even talk about this subject say things like, "sounds plausible, but I'm not sure I believe it." Not sure you believe what, that a nonrenewable resource we use hand over fist is going to run out? Or that running out of a resource on which we depend utterly will result in a humanitarian catastrophe? These are not things to "believe" or "not believe." They're goddamn axioms. Most people are in complete DENIAL.It's lunacy.
noisepuppet 9 months ago
Yeah, we were there...4 years ago. I'm mildly depressed about the future to be honest, but it's not all bad. We can change the way we live. Don't drive, don't buy from huge corporations, and stop leaving the lights on!
jihhtr 9 months ago
Use as much oil as you can, I really want to see this play out.
1TtidnaB 10 months ago 19
@1TtidnaB You don't have to cheerlead. We're already pedal to the metal.
Oilyboyd 9 months ago 4
This reminds me of a story (from 40 years ago) I read of a man who in a dream claimed to travel to the future. He said he went to 2100 and the world was but an echo of its former self, he saw New York City, which had been destroyed but was in the process of being rebuilt, presumably after a very tough century where so much and so very many were lost. I wonder sometimes whether that truly is our future.
With all that is happening I sometimes wish I could die. If only we could go into space.
Standuble 10 months ago
Well, if we find efficient ways to extract oil-sand and oil-shells, and start pumping up the wast oil in Iraq, we can push peak oil forward another 30-40 years. But sooner or later, its coming.
sangolt88 10 months ago
@sangolt88 There is no "efficient" way to extract oil from tar sands - it's an environmental disaster. The same is basically true for shale (your "oil-shells"?) - the energy it takes to produce usable oil from this stuff is almost the same as the energy we get out of it, and the waste is atrocious. Peak oil is now. Deepwater drilling, tar sands, shale, these are the desperate measures of a culture addicted to rapidly depleting fossil fuels.
Oilyboyd 10 months ago 27
@Oilyboyd Oil shale yes, my English is a little rusty. But I totally agree. The realistic approach is ignored by the governments and companies around the world. Even Saudi Arabia is hiding how much they have left in reserves, and they deny the peak at all. We are closing in at 90 million barrels per day consumption, and its going to be interesting to see if we will ever be able to produce that amount for a long time.
sangolt88 10 months ago
@Oilyboyd And even though I personally hate the thought of oil shale and oil sand production, it will be produced by Canada and Venezuela (where the oil sands are) and 70 % of the worlds oil shale is in the US, and I believe they will start up production of that, even though its an expensive and polluting way of energy.
sangolt88 10 months ago
@Oilyboyd Desperate times will be met by desperate measures.
sangolt88 10 months ago
@sangolt88 NIKOLA TESLA could have saved us from this 100 yrs ago! please look it up, he created a wireless energy system that allowed energy to be obtained anywhere on earth! i put up info on my youtube and i demostrate a 20 ft wireless transmission to prove that the system works! we could build it right away and get off of this oil dependence, you can run cars wirelessly. please read tesla's "increasing human energy" it tells u real clean energy
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boxa888 10 months ago
@Oilyboyd Sure, but if we can squeeze out enough oil from wherever we can find it it'll be the next generation who has to feel the pain, not us. I'm childfree, you might want to consider that choice too.
videoguy604 10 months ago
@Oilyboyd I Couldnt Agree with you more.. We desperately need to Transition away from Oil and Mining! There are so many natural solutions to be had! Luv and Peace Trishwildfire! Heres to hopefully a More Sustainable Futurefor Us ALL!
trishwildfire 9 months ago
@Oilyboyd, of course, many right-wing airheads deny that shale oil is actually part of the Peak Oil picture. They don't seem to get the concept of EROEI and null gains. And they sure don't seem to care about what would happen to the land and water in shale country.
Antithropocentric 9 months ago
@Oilyboyd Actually, peak oil happenned in 2006. We are post peak now.
peopleplanetprofits 8 months ago
@peopleplanetprofits Apparently. See "Looking in the Rear View Mirror" by Phil Hart, published today (May 17) on The Oil Drum. Good summation of the available information.
Oilyboyd 8 months ago
@sangolt88
there is no efficient way to extract oil from tars and sands, its an enviromental suiscide, middle east oil is reaching it's peak now, the only significant amount is in Siberia and the russians are NOT selling it, peak oil is true and is now, wonderfull days to liv4e in, I bought a horse last year , it's truely sustainable
patilan420 9 months ago
@sangolt88 you cant push peak oil 30-40 years.... in iraq they have one of the largest oil reserves it can only last America 6 months
also the one major flaw in ur arguement is how do u extract oilsand? basically you need to do a shitload of heating processes.... guess what.... it takes oil to heat up the oilsands and to extract it the net energy will never be efficient
Willsturd 9 months ago
@sangolt88
i feel like 30 - 40 years is way more than we have. is there a reason you chose that amount of time?
AntiVenomFangX 9 months ago
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sangolt88 9 months ago
@AntiVenomFangX Its hard to predict such an event by exact year, it can be 2015, 2025 or 2030. It all depends on how much more oil we find, how much we're willing to invest in alternative fuels, how much we manage to decrease our use of oil, and how much is left of the current large fields, such as in Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, Mexico and Canada. China and India also increase their use by around 9 % each year, and Saudi Arabia are unwilling to reveal how much oil they have left.
sangolt88 9 months ago
what is a bigger problem to humanity global warming or peak oil?
spartonsfan911 10 months ago
@spartonsfan911 They are both symptomatic of the one big problem afflicting us: our specie's reliance on an industrialized civilization that is designed for infinite growth on a finite planet. Such a strategy is bound to fail, done in by the meteoric rise of our exponentially increasing requirements for resources - energy, food, topsoil, clean water and air - and the power that our tools give us to exploit those resources far beyond nature's somewhat elastic ability to renew them.
Oilyboyd 10 months ago
@Oilyboyd There have always been folks that say that the carrying capacity of the earth can't be increased due to technological innovation, but they have been proven wrong again and again. At what point does technology experience diminishing returns?
Jonnybarbs 10 months ago
@Jonnybarbs Actually, that's not what they say. Clearly carrying capacity can be increased if you can "borrow" resources from somewhere else to run your technology. But eventually, you will hit the limits - peak oil, depletion of fisheries, exhaustion of ancient aquifers - at which point your technology won't do you any good. It can't "invent" new resources. Draw down your bank account, exhaust your savings, live on credit for awhile, but eventually, without a revenue stream, you'll go broke.
Oilyboyd 10 months ago
LFTR
bogusnachos 10 months ago
Since God created all the oil for us, only He can decide when we won't get any more of it, and He hasn't spoken on the topic yet, so we can all relax.
My "Peak Oil debunked" video is the antidote to all the Marxist lies about this God-given resource.
HorseCents 10 months ago
@HorseCents
How about this, have your god make you more oil. Better yet have him make more oil for the world just appear. Until then take your shitty god and shove him up your ass. People like you are part of the problem
thackythac 9 months ago
Peak Oil is a myth invented by libtards and Hollywood Greenies (same difference).
See my video for the true truth on this topic.
HorseCents 10 months ago
@HorseCents
Your video doesn't dis-proof science reviewed facts.(Don't bring god into discussion since nothing he says in the bible manifest into reality)
SgtThom 10 months ago
@HorseCents
Once again another idiot conservative who knows jack shit about anything!
thackythac 9 months ago
So, when you see the peak oil section in inside of the video, I could analyze that people doesnt know when does the oil production will really end just like when that cartoon guy was keep climbing up without knowing there is a downhill and got crushed, which means most of the people wont guess where it really ends..
samlim94 10 months ago
It is the end of the Platinum age, this is now the time of people eating people...........
bionicbrainbutt 10 months ago
thumbs up
luv6pup 10 months ago
Thev collapse is brought about by yourselves ... God is ...
MinutemanUK 10 months ago
please people investigate The Venus Project, The Zeitgeist Movement
FAKEPAIN 10 months ago
Peak Oil is a huge scam. Just like americas "global warming" scam. Russians proved that oil is a mineral and not a fossil feul. Petroleum is a renewable source. I wish all the idiotic conspiracy theorist would just give it a break already. GET A REAL JOB FOOLS!!!
kakmolnia 10 months ago
@kakmolnia I just cant see how the earth replenishes oil at the same rate we are using it? its just pure madness? can you explain this?
FAKEPAIN 10 months ago
@kakmolnia
Do you have any proof that the Earth replenishes oil reserves at the rate of 87 MILLION barrels per day? Even if oil is abiotic in nature (which nearly every credible authority on the subject says it's not), unless Earth can keep up with us, it's a moot point.
Try and imagine what 87 million oil barrels look like. All those barrels stacked up on top of each other. The sheer volume of it. That's 3,654,000,000 gallons PER DAY. This cannot and will not continue indefinitely.
robophreeq 10 months ago
@robophreeq ...you mean any credible source in america lol...all your credible sources think oil is a "fossil Fuel" haha what a joke....the earth is a lot bigger than you think... there is plenty of oil...but if everybody must worry about something.. go ahead..lol.why not...you can add global warming and a bunch of other conspiracys to your list...
kakmolnia 10 months ago
@kakmolnia How is oil a renewable resource? What's your source?
ShwangShwing 10 months ago