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  • I hope Gert Wilders becomes the next Dutch Prime Minister! Wish we had someone as willing to speak the TRUTH here in the USA!

  • bullshit islam extremists can come in freely so....WTF

  • You guys obviously don't know the difference between a religion and tyranny. Reading all the comments is depressing. Don't you know most Muslims are severly oppressed by their own leaders? And the reasons why - not enough time to explain. And as an Indian you should know that mixing of Islam and Hinduism goes back a very long time. Nationalism is a disease but i guess you got a dose of knowledge is power in the new world. Idiot!

  • ISLAM is the root cause of half a dozen world's greatest distructions! ISLAM SPREAD HAS TO BE CONTROLLED, iM IN support of GEERT WILDERS .

    I have one advice for muslims." if you are muslim, just shut the f***k up, live happily, be good human being, stop spreading it like a disease". We alrwady had enough of islam n its bull?***t

  • Any decent human being would support Geert. When you are a GUEST in a home, you do not insult your host. I say, they need to be E D U C A T E D.

  • 52% of the votes are muslim

  • What are these idiots doing speaking English, anyway?

  • right to free speach was once garteened under UK constition NOT ANY MORE THE FUCKING PEICE OF SHIT PUBLIC ORDER ACT 1986

  • How many muslims were banned because of threatening with killing us all, hate speech, burning national flags, learning children to hate jews and infidels. Publicly the guy lies but it is al taqiyya. He will lie as long as muslims are strong enough to speak in open way and spread their hate. Geert Wilders is like Kenobi. Last hope. Like Churchill. The rest of politicians are like Chamberlain. Appeasing Hitler, and islam. The same ideology. The same problems will come.

  • and just look at who is the jurnalist that represent the Macnhester a monkey from the destert trees !

    the british people should burn to hell the goverment spread fire all over the cities while the muslims ilegal imigrants should leave this country right now!!!!!

  • people look at what are doing the kingdoms like U.K !

    they are banning the natives who critises something or oppose something?

    why? why? the U.K is censuring the freedom of speach?

    they are baning the europians and accepting the muslims that is a shame !

  • Y cant these Muslims act like a normal human being and mingle with the society. Y they have to do things that everybody hates.

  • The sooner they deport these filthy kiddy fucking worshipper warmongers the better.

  • A guy like Geert Wilders needs to kicks Queen beatrix's ASS!!!! I know he is very AGAINST the european union and their currency. Fuck the elite's agenda; Geert for Bilderberg Demolition!!!! GO GEERT!!! EXCELLENT JOB SO FAR!! We need you!!!!

  • Islam is a movement which is based on hatred of others and not love of God

    My experience of Muslims is that they worship and love a god ...the god of money.

    They teach their children to despise non-Muslims and especially hatred of Jews.

    They will cause World War III.

  • Muslims are the ones denying holocaust and blessing Hitler

  • this shows that geert is right. If they dont let him in UK to show video then whats in the video is true, Its all true . I want to see video to judge for my self.

    EDL for the fight on racist facist homophobic female oppressive Radical Islam.

  • i am Indian man ... I support Geert Wilders completely. Never let your Muslim population to get out of control. NEVER!

    Make it like UAE. let people work,, no citizenship. once they get old.. kindly leave.

    If you make a noise about your religion, leave! simple as that !

    Islam is a real menace. It took the world a bite in their ass to realise what was happening in asia and third world countries. that wasnt fair when india cried and no one listend.

    But better late than never.

  • @errolmiranda motherufucker son of a bitch y the fuck u have to my country UAE from dirty go back to ur fucking dirty country , u all are slumdogs. U come here to muslim countries and beg for money fuck off ur bastard. U CHEAP BASTARD ALL HINDUS ARE FUCKING SHIT WHO WORSHIP MONKEYS AND RATS LOL

  • Well I'm A Pagan, And i don't care about your human god books!

    I was here before the main 3 hate religions, you destroy nature and your own kind.

    If this continues there will be War!

    *You need to keep the Balance.

    Nature is coming either way, are you ready for a real War?

    P.S If get gets extremely cold or hot towards the end of the year(both), Go to your safe.

  • @TimeofWolf im an atheist and all the crap about man-made gods really fucks me off. its amazing how stupid stories can take over the minds of nearly everyone in the world.a real mental plague. ive got to say though that if muslims arent stopped from taking over than these monkeys will make our lives hell. deport them all from the free west like uncle joseph stalin.now hes the one who had real bollocks.

  • We have over 7 Billion humans on the planet, Animals & Plants go extinct every day.

    it's looking likely most of the Rain Forest will die this year.

    And we have this dumb idiots thinking there going to build a new Empire.

    If the Muslims ever did manage to wipe everyone out.

    What would they do?

    The would have to end up eating each other, And they wouldn't have enough different types of DNA

    to survive any way.

    I think it's most likely Nature will wipe most of us Humans out.

    No more Books!

  • @angeleye827 check out at least 25,000 converts to islam in the u.s.a each year and at least 100 a week in europe per week convert or accept islam you have no clue and no idea check this out for yourself

  • @angeleye827 islam is the fastest growing religion due to the fact muslims can have many wives you are off the mark here and have no clue check out how many converts to islam in the u.s.a each year and check out how many converts to islam in europe each year you will find many many converting to islam this includes christians convering and atheists converting many hindus also convert each year you will see in ten to twenty years islam will be the biggest religion and overtake christianity.

  • Geert Wilders has 24 hour police protection... doesn't that say enough about the state of the Netherlands?

  • @angeleye827 haha islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. its a fact. even cnn reported that haha cunt. ofcourse you will say not. you are desperate...lol

  • haha everyone is insecure about islam taking over as its a fact that it is the fastest growing religion in the world.

  • islam is the army of satan the bible talks about.

  • Al Jazeera is clearly gonna be a little bit bias on this topic.

  • When wilders says muhammad was a pedophile, why would you get a muslim who is named after muhammad to get his views. Obviously he loves muhammad

  • Geert Wilders: For six years I've to debate wearing a bulletproof vest

    Paste above into youtube search. Watch job cohen get ripped apart by Geert wilders . Love it..

  • Another apologist brit muslim you can see right through his bullshit. ! S

  • Britain needs to purge itself of Islam before it's too late. The moslems are not keeping their aims a secret, they are shamelessly and publically announcing their intent to destroy Europe, the British Isles, and America. They are moving into Mexico, of all places, like rodents and preying on the poor and ignorant in Mexico. Islam is a cancer. It needs to be stopped now, while it's possible.

  • That muslim guy is so biased it's sooo obvious!

  • Geert Wilders shall be the next Dutch PM , he is a hero to the Dutch people. Netherlands need leaders like him.

  • @mrblurblur2003 That'd be cool. He's a hero.

  • nobody give a sh*t about that stupid country ..... go wear some orange panties and flirt around the streets of Walletjes

  • @Soberkin1 i agree. muslims need to be educated and must stop there terror and domination idiology. i am a seperatist however and feel that both sides of the spectrum need to fuck off. now all we have to do is agree on that with unity and segregate. we mind our buisness and we mind ours. we do not step onto there borders nor do they stand on ours unless it is for trade that we do in all goodness. i got this idea from a great king of egypt.

  • @Soberkin1 Bravo! Here's to Prime Minister Geert Wilders!

  • @Soberkin1 Fair enough, but a big part of this is fear. And failure to confront fear indicates cowardice.

    But you are right otherwise.

  • islam belongs in the far east. like sweeping dirt under a carpet.

  • Wow, 52% of Brits are PC, self-hating cowards!

  • He is 100 % foolish and ignorant person.Side way and short cut politics is his life time achievement.This monkey could have never climbed to the tree of MP ship wihout fabricated ideology against Islam.

  • LONG LIVE BRITAIN !

  • why all muslim economic refugees choose UK and some europeans to live..

  • apaarently even the queen of Netherlands dad was a Nazi member, so it runs in their blood....

    Wilders is only returning to his roots...

  • Did he say islam promotes peace and tolerance? That man is up to his neck in bullshit.

  • Wilders is growing in the Netherland,shaking its FAULTY foundation.

    You can feel it in the air!!

  • geert wilders, to the uk once ONCE AGAIN :-) , march 5,

    oh yes, get used to it.

    to once again hear, islams true fascist message, nice try but you ve been rumbled.

  • 5:82. Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who , believe ( to be ) the Jews and the idolaters .(...)

  • that first guy on the phone doesnt know the koran very well..

    all religions are NOT respected in the koran, jews should be decapitated and so on....

    Freedom of speech in Holland dont exist anymore... you are only free to speek in holland when you are a foreigner (most are moslim) the dutch are descriminated in there own country..

  • 2.191 . And slay them wherever ye find them , and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out , for persecution is worse than slaughter . And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there , but if they attack you ( there ) then slay them . Such is the reward of disbelievers .

  • @WaWoWieWa please do not make stuff up about the koran, try to be honest. Islam beleives in the Torah (the Jewish book) as well as the Bible and real muslims know that without the Judeo-Christian religion there is no Islam. There is no verse in the book that states violence against Jews or others at all. Muslims believe in the prophets after Abraham such as David, Moses, Jesus just like many Christians do. Please educate yourself.

  • @vipjan12 Taqiyya.

  • @neitilinvandring what does taqiyya mean?

  • Long live Geert Wilders.....Islam will hang itself eventually....leave them alone...they will kill eachother...they don't need us for that......barbarians.....

  • haha he's no longer banned and free speech prevails. He'll be the next Dutch PM. Get used to it

  • he is hating all muslims and making people hate muslims.. look how smart is this man is?? he's making people do the work? y maybe for some gain... i dont know.. but the truth is he is starting a war by giving wrong msgsss. read the quran and mach his wordssssssss.. plzzzzzzzzzzzzz people if you are brave, or googe it up.. read the contex which comes beforewards and afterwords, u will get the msgg.. peace..

  • @GeertWildersLoyalist Dude I hope so, or the brits will get fucked by muslims again! S

  • @GeertWildersLoyalist Please friend make sure it happens I want europe to remain european!!!!!!! Fuck them how dare they say this Take a look at afghanistan.... they blew up a ancient Buddhist fucking mountain carving over their beliefs (muslims) They still stone people and have honour killings (muslims) so the so called moderates come to our countrys crying crocodile tears that their country is a hell hole and they were running from persecution (islam) and then expect us to bend over backwards.

  • @GeertWildersLoyalist Your words into God's ear !

    God bless

  • @GeertWildersLoyalist jou naam haha

  • @GeertWildersLoyalist HE WON THE CASE IN THE COURT AND NOW MUSLIMS IN HOLLAND CAN GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. UK CAN GET SOME LESSONS IN THIS CASE.

  • @26121944 our countrys to fuckin soft

  • Why is it that everybody can see hate speeches against the west and the christians in the jihadistic manifestations but when it is a christian who is critical he is not even allowed to open his mouth he is sent to jail. Free speech for muslims in england, prison for christians. Bravo

  • shut the fuck up

  • because "hate-speech" only applies to anything about Islam.

  • You need to actually watch his film, those were muslim preachers spitting out that hatred in the name of Ala and it's been caught at something as little as muslim wedings right here utube so it goes on allot more then people think. When you watch his film and you are still as sure that hatespeach is a white/euro thing then you need to switch the safty off, place the barrel in your mouth(not temple cause you'll only loose your eyes and you will continue to poisen society) and PULL the trigger.

  • Londonistan

  • Just like the whites hate the muslims within their minds and hearts, Muslims hate the whites in their hearts and minds. You dont have to attck, or hurt, you can just have the hate inside you and live alongside each other. This is whats happening. But Islam to some people is a religion of peace and to others its Jihad against the kaffirs/infadels.

  • Absolutely, their silence DOES mean that they condone it and are therefore complicite the crime.

  • I agree. They SHOUT all the time! and interrupt people who try to make legitimate comment. They mistake generosity, niceness and helpfilness for weakness, therefore we must be immovable when it comes to defending our freedoms.

  • It was totally disgusting to see a bunch of sand niggers protesting and insulting the British soldiers on their return from Iraq. It was I must say heartbreaking and totally unacceptable. How can we allow these actions to happen?

  • How many english has pakistani parliament got?? :-) And how often are they deciding about internal english affairs??

  • hmmm..interesting...there is no religion,but you still taking morals and values out of it....:-) i wonder HOW,if it is banned....And to be honest religion is nothing bad,bad are people,plus our religion-European religion were always christianity-so obviously when you damaged christianity there is other religion like islam who wants to take part of it....I think destroying christianity,wich is a KEY part of our european culture was and is the MAIN reason why Holland and west will be muslim soon

  • and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush), do not wait until you find them. Rather, seek and besiege them in their areas and forts, gather intelligence about them in the various roads and fairways so that what is made wide looks ever smaller to them. This way, they will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam

    Islam certainly does command Muslims to kill non-believers.

  • why does everyone pander to the muslims?

    What a mistake. There is a new wave of nationalist voters who are going to change the whole landscape. Give it 50 years before non-conforming muslims are rounded-up, yes, just like hitler did to the jews. It's not really what I want to see, but its the way things will go.

    Muslims, keep up your Islamic shit and ranting and you will be digging your own grave.

  • If the European nations' governments and authorities keep on defending this deadly, false-religion's followers, don't be surprised to wake up one morning, hearing "Allah hu Aqbar", in the Islamic Republic of the Netherland, or the "United Moroccan-Algerian Republic of France".

    Europeans! Wake up now!!!!!

  • exactly, why the fuk should we tollorate a bunch of intollorate pricks who hate us on our own soil...id love to hear wot the ww1 & ww2 veterans think about this seein as they & thier friends fought and died for this country, islam extremist are no diffrant in nature to the nazi's...

  • Islam seems to block concepts of relativity and multiple perspective in the muslim brain , and imprisons him in the sole  perspective of Islam.

    Therefore muslims are not aware that they are destroying the same system that protected them so far as a different-thinking minority. It happens whenever they attack broad thinking, democratic tolerance and free speech, when on some occasions it doesn't suit THEM.

  • Cutting down democracy and free speech is applicable to everyone, so it works towards the muslim community too. While Muslims persist on laws that prosecute anything that ever can offend them, they give non-muslims every right to be offended by hijabs- or even by mosques- and to legally file a complaint against it. Imprisoned in their ONE perspective, muslims can't grab that such offences have the same legal value as theirs. Muslims are starting a huge circus, and are playing the clowns in it.

  • @DePetrick Dude islam is not a religion in the sense we think of religion like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. It is a social political ideology with the koran serving as a field manual like say the US Army Field manual! It is more like Nazism, communism and other such doctrines whose ultimate goal is the overthrow of nonmuslim societies!!! S

  • People that are not capable to make a shield against what other people think and say, have been educated to continue to think as a child : that their world is the centre of universe.and no one may touch it

    They never learned to deal with other people 's opinion.

    Most of them are not muslims, but after hearing how muslims reason, it is clear most muslim are.

    They schould all finally grow up in their minds as well.

    And stop acting like children, urging only from OTHERS to make that shield.

  • Being offended has no standard. The ridiculous easy way muslims are offended, will trigger the right for non muslims to feel offendend when "muslims walk in their streets". It will happen when Muslims get their way and "offence" wil have legal consequences.

    Funny how muslims don't realise that all they strive for in this surreal debate, will backfire to them, as they will have to shut up too.

    In a multicultural society one makes a shield for what others think. If you're intelligent, that is.

  • "Musims do so much to avoid hate speech from extremists"

    that "undercover mosque" discovered hatespeech in the most moderate mosques of England.

    Twice.

    If freedom of speech is limited where it "offends" people, some may end up by not even been allowed to say they don't believe in Allah. Which would suit all muslims, of course; that seems to be the goal.

  • i tell u why because islam is the true religon and the devil leaders of the west is trying to put you up against moslims because they are afraid when islam takes over the power there will be no more corruption among the world leaders today!!just because a few terrorist that FALSY use God to kill there victims doesn'y mean u have to boycot a whole religion and say islam is a facistische religon because ure al BRAINWASHED by the media and ur government during the last 20years of badmouthing ISLAM

  • "ure al BRAINWASHED by the media"

    Which is very offensive towards our intelligence, and even not true. If you live in Belgium, you should know that the lefty liberal media appeases Islam and people are fed up with that.. So you're a typical muslims that dilute himself over and over again.

    if you call it brainwashing that the media still show pictures of muslim terror, then you are a fascist saying they would be not allowed to. Again: you are a real muslim,( brainwashed for about 1400 years.

  • again u are brainwashed my friend----------->lets be honoust how many muslims do you see every day???? now HOW MANY OF THOSE MUSLIM BLOW THEMSELFS UP OR ARE TRYING TO KILL U???? -----> i thaugt so so why wont u just shut the fuck up and admit that u are al brainwashed and that u don't even know that ure own government planned those busbombattacks for the invasion of iraq and afghanistan for OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL and if u don't see that u are just a unintelligence MONKEY !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tugieboy

    Please continue to show the real face of a muslim to the world ;-)

    Appearently there is no wall between your typical muslim small thinking frustration and anger and the stage of violence towards innocents. Its just some steps further.

    I know it since long. But perhaps others could find it out, if you keep showing your real face ;-)

    Believing in fairy tales and then being angry at people who question it is childish.

    You schould grow up!

  • haha i love the fact that u think u are intelligent..i have 2 things to say

    1. u will never be able to shut us up and destroy or bann islam..

    2.ure " fairy tales "comment is going to bite u in the ass the moment u enter ure grave..so i am going to pray to God that he may bring u the light my friend..and at least i am glad that u know those bombings was a set up atleast someone with a little bit of intelligence cheers for that..

  • 1. u will never be able to shut us up and destroy or bann islam..

    I agree: it are the muslims themselves who are doing that; That's what i pointed out in my comments, but your simple brain doesn't get it.

    2 "that u know those bombings was a set up"

    No they wheren't, but you are obliged to believe that, or any other made up story, to keep up your lie. ;-)

    That's why other moslims say it "where no good muslims" that did it.

    Its just another way of dealing with proof against your system.

  • Tugieboy

    "u are just a unintelligence MONKEY !!!!!!!!!!!"

    Thank you to prove my point!

    Again: If muslims continue to put legal persuit on "offence", muslims like you will soon be the firts to be silenced.

    But you pple don't get it, do you? ;-)

  • WIth that kind of language you use, you shouldn't be telling others they are not intelligent.

  • Muslim culture is barbaric and will destroy the civilised west. Muslim immigrants are the greatest danger facing Europe.

  • Islam is the greatest savior, that's why it's growing so fast even when the media is painting it dark, you mean to tell me that those billion people who are muslims are crazy... no my friend you have barbaric thoughts, you're a danger to yourself.

  • millions of people have actually watched the film and there is actually nothing new in the film. it is the usual things that muslims do and turn around to cry foul. All the actors in the film are muslims themselves. if you need the film contact me

  • please i have saw the movie to and its bullshit als the soera's in that movie fitna are taken out of context and of every soera he has put in that movie at least the half of the soera is missing so its totally ript out of context!! and another thing in de bible and the torah there isn't violence and killing wrote down in there??it doesn't say in the bible that al non-christans will burn in hell??doesn't it say in the torah that all non jews would go to hell??so why are u singling out ISLAM

  • Yes he should of been allowed.

  • the reason i am not part of that cruetly becoz tomorrow u could be a muslim and me the atheist..so never truly hate something becoz tomorrow u maybe encourgaging it..my focus is more what i can do for my community,,so this means i can blame u for murder in the name of secularism..the arguments go both ways and lead to the same conclusions.

  • aziz- perhaps there is a major difference between Arab Moslems and those who are not.

  • dont know what u mean by that. but arabs are all different depending on which country u derive from some are extremely secular but hold true to that belief. u must understand capital punishment isnt ever to encourage punishment it was ordered by god to cleanse people from evil to make it a example that stealing for profession has its dues, this is why in arabia the crime rate is low and arabia is not a poor country at all by any standards.

  • the west has brainwashed you. why is it when muslims die its no big tragedy, your educated how many muslims have died in pakistan alone, have the pakistanis blamed there own religion or denounced it, no the pakistanis blame it on foreign policy which pakistan is also involved. your very biast and it suprises me, muslims die by muslim radicals when a person denies one tenent of islam he goes out of the folds, whether his clothing is of a muslim allah knows

  • your targeting me because of my belief. but it doesnt mean im biast or i support a muslim over a christian. i support a person who is inocent whether muslim or not. most of my relatives have died in pakistan due to bomb attacks done by radicals, so am i not supposed to mourn, of course there are elements which are extreme but those elements have nothing to do with islam the religion, because the casualties of these attacks also denounce them as even being muslims. so your argument is biast.

  • so when i say im not a terrorist and ilsam doesnt tell u to do these things ur gonna blame me for a criminal. so when a secularist kills my family ill blame u is that ok. stop creating false hysteria u make me sick big time. muslims have contributed to england too big time such as my father and others. war mongers, damn u guys invade 2 nations and u call us radical u went in for oil and gas so i guess u will turn a blind eye wont u. i am shocked......ill email u the surah response.

  • There are no radical youth? The world knows differently. In your own words, you are a fanatic, its built into the ideology. You cant be a Muslem without being a little crazy. You simply lie! Tell your lies in the UK, Spain, the USA. Tell them in Holland as your people kill those who insult you! Oil always comes up-America has never kept land- we rebuilt Germany, not take it. What evil secular countries do, is NOT in the name of secularism-that is the difference. Jews dont rape children!

  • yes ill say it again there is no radical youth also the clip you keep watching is al jazeera owned by arab muslims lol. the world is plotting a conspiracy not against secular muslim leaders but a fraction of a group who hold resistance who refuse to budge who are fighting a war there own way. america attacked 2 nations killed gazillions in the name of secularism. why did they rebuilt germany lol because they could have a third world country in the middle of europe lol.

  • you have no idea about the future and the jewish messiah to come. all people on top have a god these people are rallying towards there messiah, its hard for u to grasp becoz u deny everything. but according to secular historians journalists they say a enemy u cant see is the dangerous enemy such masons illumaniti,, damn theres books websites dedicated to these evil people from the west. the muslim issue is excuse to put us away, such as guantanamo bay,so many inocents locked up for years,,,joke

  • why didnt they rebuilt afghanistan in the 80's when the afghan MUSLIMS helped them fight the soviets.. and all tony blair said was we are sorry..what a joke...the mujhadeen are the taliban of today they helped america defeat russia and ronald regan praised them rambo 3 dedicated to them, also america urged all muslims fighters to help them in this cause. what happend america turned its back on them and let the mujhadeen fend for themselfs and rebuild a fragile goverment. u r the radicals not us.

  • I just say that if you think the west is evil and your religion does not embrace western values, you MUST go live where other people believe as you do. Go live by the values that YOU believe,not in the west where we are so evil, but dont bring it to the west

    ANYONE who believes that a massiah is coming is crazy!

    Yes I do believe that there is a new world order (by many names) that control most of the worlds money. These have Arab and Moslem members also, and is not

    "western" or "secular".

  • the new world order has its roots deeply connected to a being whether u like or not its hard for u but u cant link islam with this order lol though u wish u could.if islam is a threat then the enemy u cant see is a bigger threat,,the fassad is secularism,they give u freedoms so u are busy and turn a blind eye that is the truth im afraid to say. i live in england becoz i am british and i have a right to hate some of its ways as do british whites i abide the law as muhammd said respect law of land

  • Wikipedia gives a good synopsis of the various groups. I neither want or dont want to link it to Mislems. I just say that the VERY rich oil producing countries have seats on such committees who are Moslem. YOu have a thing about secularism. Do you really understand it?

    You respect the law of the land, but do you not also want to change it when you have enough voters to do so?

  • i like secularism to the point it doesnt affect my religion, i dont drink so i dont go places where alcohol is given i eat halal meat so i got a halal butchers, england is superb becoz it has all these anti christian islam elements but nobody forces u to do them,so i dont mind it really but its my duty to instruct my kids until 18. if the majority became muslims such as white british then they would want it also. but thats a question i could as u if atheists came into power would u embrace it.

  • In the west, people must also be protected FROM the religion of others, and religions can not defy the law on religions grounds. Example, women should not vale in public is the law says no vales, and even in the home a father can not beat his child if the law say he can not. The secular law comes first, because it comes from people and western tradition, not from the God of one religion or another (which cause wars between groups).There is a dominant culture in a western country to be respected

  • if in the west we can make people understand by discussion then this is also part of secular habit, trying to speak about it, if there is a law banning it then one should try to rally support if not then one should either leve the country or wear it in areas where it is acceptable. but its hard for u to change people who are new or 2nd generation to england u and i know it takes centuries for people to alter there mind set. muhammad never told anyone to beat there child nothing recorded either

  • Who should I believe, you or the actions I see coming from countries that profess to be operating by Islamic law? Fanitics terrible things (like in Fitna). I have seen your arguments by Christians who don't take responsibility for what the Catholic church did in its history. They say, OH you can't blame Christianity for what the church did! I say, Of course you can. The Catholics WERE Christianity at the time! I think the same for Moslems.If it is not Islam, then shout this to those who do it.

  • i dont blame ppl on the street but the organisations they support without being biast. really u cant blame an individual if u did ud kill everybody and thats illogical,,just like xtians say adam sinned so u need to pay for it, islam says he sinned and he is the one who will pay for his actions not us..

  • Of course as you know, I don't believe anything with the Christians(even though Christmas and its music and food is my favorite time of year. I have a tree, give gifts. and even GO TO CHURCH sometimes on Christmas Eve. Americans (and the world) think of Christmas as in 19th century English terms- a "Dickens Christmas" is what we all think if. Snow, Sleds, warm fires and gifts, even in Arizona where it is 90F at Christmas. I love some Christian things, but don't believe any of the supernatural.

  • I do blame the individual if he supports the organization, and I blame the organization if it supports the larger organization. If you support countries who have laws as I have described, then you are part of the cruelty. YOu said something though- that a woman may go to work IF her family need her to. You didnt say she could go IF she wanted to, or that her husband could not stop her. She is still not free and equal to a man. Women must be totally free as men, and gays also. Otherwise, bad law.

  • right ok it seems u keep track on my words the woman can go to work if she wants too but this usually happens if the individual holds a degree or other. in our culture of the east women only tend to go to work if they must,, damn man my maid is a woman u see this is the igornace i face come to pakistan most of the maids r women who have lazy husbands or both husband and wifes work. now do u realise why i scream half the time..

  • also muslims dont go round thinking capital punishment this or that.. we tend to think how we can benefit our fellow man..and how i can deal justly with people muslim or non muslim my family kids....my sister in law is a christian who accepted islam and she does it on her own pace..she accepted islam before she married my brother..her view on it is completely neutral and understanding reagrding trash society of today and wat islam forbids against.

  • And what is the penalty for a Muslem who wants to convert to Christian, by Islamic law?

  • go aska a jew the same qustion.

  • Talk all you want, but the world is finding out what Islam demands- heads, hands and feet, stoning etc if someone is found guilty of offending "God". The west will never accept this, and when there are enough of you in the UK you will force your will of Allah and there will be a war. I think you should be forced back to your own homeland before this happens because your radicalized youth are dangerous as some poeple on a bus found no long ago. Your ideology is dangerous to the free world. Sorry!

  • if thats the case u r godless and we have a god it shall be good vs evil.. as the prophet said there will be a time when the good will be evil and the evil will be good. there is a god whether u like religion and for centuries he has spoken in one way. there is no radical youth its all a myth it suprises me where the media finds all these guys. u can build the hysteria but thats just your evil building it.

  • Sura 8:12 - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

    Qur'an 9:5 - Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

    Qur'an 8:39 - So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.

  • every muslims country part of the un isnt an islamic run on islamic law country. it may have capital punishment but its not islam by nature,, it is very secular by nature...although religon does play an important role most muslims say out loud that there isnt an islamic country true to the word.

  • corruption used to be rampant in the west but the west dealt with it..look my dad tells me stories on how the british ruled india and killed lots of people including his grandparents on how they tricked there way in making brother fight brother. but radicals put u in one group i for do as allah says only accuse the accuser and not anyone else. that was then and i hope now it is different. many british politcians were against the iraq war so i am with them.

  • america only for 100 years has had its glory islamic empire for over a thousand years. damn we ruled india and implemented a good system for them for over 1000 years...islam will return as prophecided. u live for now and think u will die old but if u dont and die young then ask yourself what was the purpose of life...wilders is a puppet and goes to people who have big mouths....go to dubai or morocco or to oman lol a ldifferent movie call it wilders loves muslims fitna..lol

  • you dont even understand the proceedings, heavy books r written on islamic law alone. also this credit crunch and global recession could of been avoided by dealing with islamic banking..a point noted by the dubai economic minister. ur a loss cause and u wont realise anything...secularism has tried to purge people all this century invading the middle east in the 1900's india before that africa,,u people have done bad things but have nice ways to hide them all...u cant deny u went on rampage.

  • the chopping off hands isnt theif once we chop u u need to fit the criteria and there is pardons. the chopping off hands isnt to enhance bulgary but to put a end to it, of course if u read islamic literature many theives didnt get capital punishment but imprisonment. and islam issues the same executions to prince or pauper, its more vivid and deep than what u just read oh muslims chop off hands, america the advanced nation on the planet cant even stop rape murder and buglary.

  • also christians forced converted many jews in 1492 in spain..either convert or die lol...i demand u to see for your self the west which says i am christian bush obama and which says i am a jew did these things and much more..and now its using secularism..be secular or we find a way to fuck u big time lol...dont u guys every get out of the box...

  • The real box is religion. Someday, the religious mind will be recognized as a diseased mind-like schizophrenia, and a medication will be available.

  • aziz-

    I agree that the Old Testament is just as bad as Islam, but there is an important difference: You do not see Jews or Christians kill their kids for dishonor.You dont see beheading,hand/foot chopping, stoning, killing those who no longer follow. Christians and Jews see the violent passages as historical, and not eternal. Islam is primitive. It is intolerant of gays and unbelievers. It is antihumanism and freedom. It has not evolved.

  • right so what ur saying jews and xtians r ok to have there thousand year head start in barbaric acts and now they r ok and muslims are to be ganged up on by every religion on earth as the worst people to face the earth, my friend u have not clicked on you dont read the quran or hadeeth and dont understand armegeddon. islam doesnt prohibit murder of inocents but i think there is a war which excel if this pushing of muslims is going to keep on pushing its own agenda, it is what it is,

  • Aziz- I think none of the three GREAT HATE RELIGIONS are better than the other. I simpley say that Christians and Jews do not do the terrible things that Islam does. A man was just given 20 years in Iraq by Islamis law for circulating a paper supporting womens rights. You, aziz, just do not have an argument. The facts are against you. The world has seen what Islamic law does. Islam is not a victim, its the aggressor. It hurts people in Gods name- and THAT is the greatest sin

  • no country is islamic in the world lol name me one..........they r all secular .....so its not religion its cultural..the man circulating the paper was the good muslim and the jury bad secularists..arguments are all against u.........

  • look thats stupid look ow it is.. why is it when muslims commit bad crime due to the west foreign policy it has to do with islam, and when christians or christian secularists commit crime nobody labels them with the religion they carry. statiscally this would mean in england alone all crime is done by either christian secularists or atheist secularists , so make up your minds. and if so then this means being secular still makes u commit crime more so than religion, break the myth.

  • You try to make white into black and black into white, but world knows the truth. Would you not call Iran a Moslem nation, and all the other countries in the middle east except Israel? Yes, they are all under Islamic law, and have the punishments I have said. I blame Islam when the text supports violence and the people carry it out in the name of Islam.If a Moslem (or Jew) stole bread,I would not call it a crime from their religion, but when they do crime FOR God, it is.Wilders film is proof

  • your argument is flawed becoz in america there is executions done in some places and in some weird villages where they prohibit technology and this done all in the name of secularism...the world knew iraq was a phoney war and what did u do about it nothing...truth is your all confused, any law isnt to enhance crime but to prevent it ....as i said in islam u dont get ya hands chooped for stealing for your family or to eat this is why i say u lack the knowledge and dont wish to educate..

  • the chopping off hands isnt theif once we chop u u need to fit the criteria...

    i wrote this before......u didnt read... the theif needs to fit the criteria....for food for addiction there is pardons

  • Stealing was just an example of a crime not associated with religion. The is NO justified criteria for chopping hands in a civilized society. NO where in the USA is technology prohibited-you are really crazy.

    I suggest that everyone watch the youtube versions of Wilders film "Fitna" and listen to his interviews- search "Geert WIlders" for the truth about Islam IN THEIR OWN WORDS, not his.

  • still dont agree with your view choping off a hand not hands is not to enhance crime but to destroy it rape murder adultery its to purge our society from things which destroy us.. i can give u xamples of this disease ripping thru the west, adultery fornicaton aids etc.......wilders film goes to puppets and loud mouths. if ihe filmed dubai and its muslims then we would of had a different subject and people. lol wild..

  • By your own words you prove that you are savages. You defend torture for adultry, fornication, aids, and other things you want to "purge" from society- and you dont even understand what is wrong with this thinking. You are all uncivilized and must go back to your own lands, you are not fit to live in free and advanced societies.

  • savage hey pal we tried it to your way and all u did was let it out of control. like ciggarettes the government allow them to be manufactured and then they tell us not to smoke them. secularism by nature is stupid. free advanced yeh when the middle east was thriving the west didnt even have a electricity lol..the world knows the east was advance before the west ever was so dont get excited, all empires fall. capital punishment isnt a laughing matter or to show u r not human,

  • I think its very funny that in every argument, you middle easterners have to go back 2000 years to find anything that you did to be proud of. The problem is that you never advanced form that period, like a retarded child.Your empire didnt fall, because it never climbed about the pit! Capital punishment is NOT a laughing matter but Wilders film shows how qucikly and easily it is applied in Islam. You are beyond that ability to ever advance.You are all socially, ideologically, and morally retarded

  • u lost in iraq and afghanistan your countrys economy is in ruins and you didnt even reach to an empire status as even the romans did. america cant solve its grass root issues, 500 ppl die a day due to victim of crime so i hold the leadership responsible,rape murder its soo high the gun culture the gangster culture mafia drugs u guys got it all and then u go round filming all the easts problems and putting it on ccn and fox.lol. but the islamic empire had more glory years than america lol.

  • u didnt answer my questions..look on the grass root levels, open your papers tomorrow see rape child births pedofila, hmm girls giving birth to babies..young fathers, drugs,murder...secularism offers this everyday in the west and way excels any murder done by religious fanatics..lol asshole...

  • In a free society, there will be these things because people are free. the west chooses freedom to your degenerate culture. Let me ask you something- Why are you in the UK instead of an islamic country?

  • the west according to secularists r part of a masonic lodge a illuminati linking them with satan and solomons temple..damn your own secular historians are telling u that your own leaders have agendas which far outweight your thorts..illuminati responsible for alot of evil in the world and its foundation in the west and its banking system. so try to purge your leadership free from conspiracy.

  • ok firstly i am a business man and i dont claim benefits, it is against my religion to claim illegally. secondly i am proud of the british system regarding basic freedoms and the fact the civil department is uncorrupted, when i go to pakistan i educate them in these things. no nation is islamic its all run by the same system pakistani law is run on british law i have seen the documents..but its corrupted big time..corruption aint due to islam but due to people not educated or given enough.

  • this is why saudi arabia crime statistics are lower than all of the european nations and america oh god i wonder why...capital punishment is to place doubt in to the heart of the next offender to think i must not kill or rape or theive in case my fate is this....although even islam many people did not go thru capital punishment , god tried it with the jews giving prophet moses full control of the leadership of the land..to instruct capital punishment. but sharia law is about .social studies too

  • Saudi arabia? In saudi society, I understand that women can not drive cars, can not be seen in public without husband of male relative, that gays are hanged, and women (daughters) can be killed for dishonoring the parent. Its the worst country of them all. The proof is that the royal family was friends with the Bush family. That alone should tell you who horrible that all are. The Moslems must go back to where they can continue to live in the 6th century and leave the 21st century to the west.

  • shut up honour killings are done in india too by hindus so dont say islam tells people to do this go educate yourself imbecile. women dont drive cars lol r u sure damn in pakistan they drive lol...and in dubai...still crime statisically in a backward country according to u is lower than the 21st century usa,. also arabs own 7% of the usa due their cash in there banks. look ur an atheist so u wont get it.

  • go click on that link i sent u,...if u didnt get it go to michael h hart 100 influential men and muhammad is in the number 1 spot and he clearly explains why. now look people who read islam its traditions know with an intelligent mind that you can not have a cult made out of fear. there is no religion on earth which was spread out of fear. look at this century how many religions have lasted i dont think any becoz they dont offer nothing and r made out of fear. now dont reply to me thanks.

  • where is god,, open your eyes,,,its not u cant see god u dont actually have any information of what god is what he does and why he does it. be realistic do u know the concept of a god, dont say i think or i feel but do u. islam actually agrees than hinduism to islam most religions were monotheistic and true but later on became corrupted and yes even hinduism, so islam agrees that most religions came from the same god but man destroyed the message.

  • All you and I know about God is what other people told us. God has never appeared to anyone and all those 'miracles' are just unprovable fairytales and hearsay.

    If there was a god, knowing how stupid and violent humans are, do you think he'd send obscure messages to us through desert shepherds and ugly bearded men with funny hats?

    The fact that we have to even ask "does god exist" proves we don't know, since there is no evidence. Hence all the books/religions pretending to be his are false.

  • look i can sit here and tell u what makes me accept god and i can tell u now its not no book. for when i accept god its not only due to islam but due to what my eyes can see,, all around us is a miracle. and whether god came to a man on a mountain or on the desert doesnt mean it is a bad thing. hinduism isnt intellectual simply becoz they have more than one god and one god is better than the other lol. anyway u go do your searching but remembr dnt look at religon to find god look at our world.