@neilcc7 tell that to the people keeping track of the numbers...did u even pay attention to the video?...if pac's the biggest attraction why is everyone wanting to fight mayweather? if pac's the biggest attraction why for his fight with clottey and the 10-11 fights before that did he do less than mayweather did in his 6 fights from judah to mosley? and look at the numbers here...they copied it from the same source i had boxingscene com/forums/showthread.php?t=392183...looks like you're the idiot
@PhoenixEdwards Either way Floyd GayWeather is just scared to death to be beaten by the Greatest pound for pound fighter in the planet today Manny Pacquiao. If Floyd Mayweather isn't scared of facing Pacquiao he would have agreed regardless of the share, it doesn't matter if he had made more money than Pacquiao, like Dana White said "if there was ever a fight in history that should be split 50/50 its the PACQUIAO/mayweather fight." What an ARROGANT WUSS Mayweather is I pity him.
yeah pac deserves more but was willing to take less but pacs advisors says dont take less because he deserves more, luckily pac has the advisers bcuz knowing pac he would of taken less just to make this fight happen.
@mctoddjoj funny how manny's been saying that he wants to give the fans what they want...then reveals floyd OFFERED HIM $40mil to fight and that he turned it down...and then talking about he doesnt know if he wants bradley because bradley isnt that marketable and wanting a bigger stadium for more money...we already know floyd wants money...i mean he calls himself "money mayweather"
@PhoenixEdwards The fight can gross $150M and Floyd wants ALL the PPV proceeds so he could make $100M to Manny's $40M. No self-respecting champion, much less the undisputed Pound-for-pound, will accept that "offer". Gimme a break!
@AccordGTR how does anyone floyd said he wont give him any PPV proceeds, if u hear what floyd has said is all they talked about on the phone was about the fight purse, have u heard floyd said he wont give him any ppv money, u cant believe everything u hear from just one camp,
@LIKWITCREW1 Uh, Pacquiao told us in the news report Floyd called him up personally and made the offer of $40M but he keeps all the PPV. Manny replied he'll fight if its 50/50. So you think Pacquiao is lying? Take note there is no BS issue about the Olympic style testing cuz Pacquiao already said yes. Now this BS about a 70/30 split for Floyd. Manny said it was embarrassing to accept that kind of deal. He would have been the laughing stock at home and abroad.
@LIKWITCREW1 Uh, Pacquiao told us in the news report Floyd called him up personally and made the offer of $40M but he keeps all the PPV. Manny replied he'll fight if its 50/50. So you think Pacquiao is lying? Take note there is no BS issue about the Olympic style testing cuz Pacquiao already said yes. Now this BS about a 70/30 split for Floyd. Manny said it was embarrassing to accept that kind of deal. He would have been the laughing stock at home and abroad.
@LIKWITCREW1 Uh, Pacquiao told us in the news report Floyd called him up personally and made the offer of $40M but he keeps all the PPV. Manny replied he'll fight if its 50/50. So you think Pacquiao is lying? Take note there is no BS issue about the Olympic style testing cuz Pacquiao already said yes. Now this BS about a 70/30 split for Floyd. Manny said it was embarrassing to accept that kind of deal. He would have been the laughing stock at home and abroad.
@PhoenixEdwards chicken weather dont even deserve this fight, his been ducking pacquiao for years, i hope team pacquiao will just ignore this cheap shot coward
50/50 or nothing. Both fighters bring in the money, its not about floyd being undefeated its about buisness. floyd booked may 5th, if he wants the next biggest draw in pacman then floyd has to pay a premium to pacman for the may 5th fight & make it even 50/50. Fans of both sides are haters & will never agree with each other. Mayweather cant be calling out pacquiao for may 5th and then saying he wants 60/40 lol thats just straight up disrespect. This fight will never happen because of MONEY floyd
@Gold2009Coast well pacquiao just revealed that when floyd called him floyd offered $40 mil guarantee to fight him...and pac says he brings in more ppv sales than floyd so he didnt accept that...but thats only because he fights more...i mean like i said in the video...in floyds last FIVE fights he did what pacquiao did in his SIX fights before marquez PLUS about 30-33% of what pac did in his last fight with marquez but ONLY if arum isnt lyin about the sales like he did with the margarito fight
@PhoenixEdwards the whole point is that both fighters bring in money. "All roads leed to manny pacquiao" and floyd is chasing that. if your gonna chase a big draw in bob arum and pacquiao then be prepared to go 50/50 or the fight aint happening. Floyd fucked up by disrepecting bob and pac by offering 60/40 (40 mill guarantee) so now we can all blame floyd again. The fight aint happening unless floyd mans up and wants the fight by agreeing to pacquiaos terms and thats all there is to it.
@PhoenixEdwards yer 60/40 winner gets bigger splits exactly but floyd wont do that lol. Floyd is way above himself and the law and whatever he says goes so i dont think floyd will ever man up and do it that way or even go 50/50 either.
@PhoenixEdwards you're one of those reasons why floyd thinks he should get all the money in the world... your floyd has no loss but he only beats gatti, corrales, castillo, delahoya, mosley and marquez...... those names aren't as big as those names that pacquiao has defeated..... PACQUIAO DEFEATED greatest boxers we have today PLUS when he defeated them mostly by stoppage....... unlike floyd when facing tough opponent will win by points....NOT DOMINANT AT ALL
@babyfaceassassin21 ANY1 can win by stoppage or KO thats by luck...not every1 is gonna be affected by getting hit by the same punch as another person who got dropped or cut open...NOT EVERYBODY can box NOT EVERYBODY can slip opponents punches and counter back...NOT EVERYBODY can limit an opponent to landing 15% while at the same time landing 46% of their punches...and what great names has pacquiao defeated without weight draining them or after floyd beat em?? go learn some shit about boxin
@PhoenixEdwards we can start comparing the FIGHTERS they fought and let's see if you really know your boxing....... anyone can win by k.o thats by luck??? yeah and muhammad ali, tyson, holyfield, jones K.O are by luck as well???? not everybody can box thats not true all can box but most chose to fight..... who's undefeated fighter did mayweather has defeated???? lets just start comparing their opponent ...... you start
@PhoenixEdwards btw NOT EVERYONE CAN KNOCKOUT ELITE FIGHTERS OF TODAY....... example FLOYD MAYWEATHER..... he cant knockout DELAHOYA, he cant knockout OLD MOSLEY ( MOSLEY wants his trainer to stop the fight with pac), he knockout gatti but even class B-C fighters can knock gatti out.... he cant knockout JUDAH WHILE cotto, clottey and tszyu 2nd round knock him out.... he is 2 pounds overweight against marquez and he cant stopped him as well..... mayweather can only knockout CLASS D FIGHTERS
@PhoenixEdwards he CANT K.O THEM..... first if you try to knockout your opponent it is more likely you will get hit and might be knockout and mayweather is very scared of that..... so he cant.... HE CAN ONLY KNOCKOUT CLASS C AND D FIGHTERS....thats a FACT you cant accept....
You know it's not the money but the respect. Floyd is at best absent in the past couple of years and the one guy that gave boxing hope is the Pacman. A deserving 50/50 split on all revenue is the fairest thing that Pac can offer but Floyd still wants to call the shots. Floyd is only marketable in the US while Pac garners audience globally as seen from all media and products combined.
@ramgol well u say floyds been absent...look at this...pacquiao became pro almost 2yrs before floyd did...by the time floyd had his first pro fight pac already had 15...if u compare the fights they've both had since floyd became pro...floyd has 42....pac has 44...so people saying floyd isnt fighting enough shouldnt be talking based on that
WHY THE FUCK CALL HIM OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE ?????? THEN IF MANNY AGREED ON A LESSER SPLIT ...WHAT NEXT ? DROP HIS LAWSUIT??? YOU'RE ARE BEING FOOLED BY THIS COWARD , FOOLS !
Listen, you seem like you are a cool dude. You have your own opinions and I've made my mine. So I'll end this convo with the latest news of Floyd's #1 fan, Teddy Atlas, stating "Floyd should accept the 50/50 split."
Google keywords, "teddy atlas: Mayweather should accept 50/50"
@flippinferdie1 i saw that last nite...i agree with teddy...u know i want this fight to happen...i mean if it doesnt then they said floyds considering the offer martinez made last year to come down to 150 to fight either him or pacquiao...but im not saying floyd shouldn't take the 50/50 with this video...im just saying based on the numbers that have come in i can see why he wouldn't want to
If certain ppl(wealthy & flomos) are willing to pay higher prices for Floyd's fight versus Manny generating more ticket sales and more PPV at a much cheaper prices in both of their last fight, then the dollar amount closely balances itself off. Floyd sells less but @ a higher price. Manny sells more @ cheaper price. It means Manny drew more fans to see him.
"numbers dont lie here either...like it shows...from the 1st morales fight to pacquiao's fight with clottey...11 fights and floyd did more in 6 fights"
Are you serious? If we are talking career accumlatives between them both, then it's a different story from your selection of Pac's PPV fights. Again, the last 5 PPV fight comparison is irrational. It's you opinion, so it is what it is.
@flippinferdie1 how is the last 5 irrational? its been their biggest paydays...if u want to compare to see who the bigger draw is...then compare their fights since fighting oscar because that was the biggest payday for each of them and since then and since they dont even have the actual numbers for pacs last 2 fights who knows if they actually did that much...arum did that with the margarito fight & it ended up less than what he said n if it is floyds done more in 5 compared to pacs 7
Floyd brings in more fans? Yea right. He brought in more fans in his last fight that he had a hard time filling the arena and eventually had VIP tickets just being given away. Pacs last fight at the gate sold out quickly. Floyd's jack'd up PPV price is one reason he made 1.25mil PPV. The other reason is the fight undercard. So right now Floyd alone does not draw more than Pac. You're mixing drawing power to dollar numbers. 50/50... no more, no less.
@flippinferdie1 im not mixing anything...floyd made more in live gate because the prices were higher yes...which only means people were willing to pay more to see him fight...no one cared about the undercard fights...people paid to see ortiz get a ko because they want floyd to lose that badly...and if floyds price being jacked up isnt why he made 1.25 mil then lower prices mean he would've made more since people who didnt want to pay as much could've been paying less
@flippinferdie1 and i showed the numbers...yall was sayin "numbers dont lie" about the pac v marquez punch stats...well numbers dont lie here either...like it shows...from the 1st morales fight to pacquiao's fight with clottey...11 fights and floyd did more in 6 fights...compare the last five fights and floyd has more ppv sales also...id say 50/50 for splitting the live gate revenue...but NOT for ppv sales...it should be 60/40 for floyd in PPV
I know Floyd's is own boss and he makes the choices and decisions, but it make him look bad rejecting a 50/50 share. Granted that Pacquiao and Mayweather are big names and 50/50 is reasonable to majority of the public, I can say the ball is now on Mayweathers court.
The split should be based on the total # of their career PPV ending @ their last fight, which Manny's slightly higher. Had Floyd been more active he probably would of been above Manny, but at this point he is not. He would of, should of, could of does not cut it, my friend. That's Floyd's own fault for taking vactions and temporary retirements. So 50/50 is a fair deal your boy rejected.
Your points are not rational. I know this has nothing to do with PPV, but ask yourself why Ring Magazine still has Pac as #1 P4P. Here's why... Floyd's inactivity. If a credible organization evaluates both of them in rankings based on performances and production, then you can apply the same concept towards the both of them splitting the pot. It don't matter to me on you basing it on only 5 fights.
And it's ironic at the end of your video you complain about hard workers picking up the slack of lazy ppl who get paid more. Funny how Floyd's inactivity compares to that and him asking to get paid more, LOL.
@flippinferdie1 he's his own boss so it doesnt matter...when you work for yourself do u have to worry about what others are doing? no...and you tlk about comparing them according to dates...we're trying to determine what they should get NOW not what they did in the past...and to do that we gotta compare the last 5 fights nad u say floyds inactivity has no grounds 2 demand more...ok...if he were as active as manny he'd STILL HAVE higher numbers...he has higher numbers now with LESS FIGHTS
@flippinferdie1 and when im talking about picking up the slack n shit...yes floyd works for himself so he doesnt have to worry about others...BUT when he's going to work and he's getting paid and u bring inpacquiao who has brought in LESS even though he fights more then why make it 50/50...like i said...if U were floyd and u were bringin in more like that would you agree to 50/50? fuck wether or not u like floyd or pacquiao...im askin if it was YOU and u knew u brought in more fans and money
Even when you eliminated a year and a half off of Manny's PPV career earnings, he still did better than Floyd. Floyd's inactivity in the sport has no grounds to demand more than Manny.
Again, Manny is accommodating Floyd 50/50 share to get the fight done.
@flippinferdie1 you talk about floyds inactivity...u say he doesnt fight enough? ok...pacquiao has 17 more fights than floyd does but guess what...manny had 15 fights before floyd even had his FIRST pro fight...so if u wanna compare since floyd turned pro...floyd has 42 fights...pacquiao has 44...big whoop...looks like pacquiao's been inactive too for about the same amount of time
Hmmm... let's see here... You begin their career PPV with both of them fighting Oscar. Floyd fought Oscar on 5/5/07 and Pacman fought Oscar on 12/06/08. If you are gonna be fair with PPV#s match them according to the dates. In this case you left out as follows:
@flippinferdie1 i started with both of them fighting oscar BECAUSE that fight was the biggest payday for both of them at that point...thats when they both really blew up...but before that floyd was still doing more than pacquiao anyway so it doesnt matter
great post man, hey pacquiao's last two fights weren't announce by hbo but bob arum himself, so these numbers could be wrong, and knowing bob it is false!!!!!!
I forgot to mention FLOYD GAYWEATHER doesn't have sponsors, Pacquiao has Nike.
Beorque00 2 days ago
2 foriegners outdid 2 Americans on usa soil in PPV are you an idiot pac doesn't deserve 50%?
neilcc7 3 weeks ago
@neilcc7 tell that to the people keeping track of the numbers...did u even pay attention to the video?...if pac's the biggest attraction why is everyone wanting to fight mayweather? if pac's the biggest attraction why for his fight with clottey and the 10-11 fights before that did he do less than mayweather did in his 6 fights from judah to mosley? and look at the numbers here...they copied it from the same source i had boxingscene com/forums/showthread.php?t=392183...looks like you're the idiot
PhoenixEdwards 3 weeks ago
@PhoenixEdwards Either way Floyd GayWeather is just scared to death to be beaten by the Greatest pound for pound fighter in the planet today Manny Pacquiao. If Floyd Mayweather isn't scared of facing Pacquiao he would have agreed regardless of the share, it doesn't matter if he had made more money than Pacquiao, like Dana White said "if there was ever a fight in history that should be split 50/50 its the PACQUIAO/mayweather fight." What an ARROGANT WUSS Mayweather is I pity him.
Beorque00 2 days ago
yeah 40m guaranteed but no share in the ppv. that's shitty as shit
azimangoez 3 weeks ago
@azimangoez considering the most pac actually got paid for a fight is $7.4 mil after arum took all the rest thats not a bad deal
PhoenixEdwards 3 weeks ago
yeah pac deserves more but was willing to take less but pacs advisors says dont take less because he deserves more, luckily pac has the advisers bcuz knowing pac he would of taken less just to make this fight happen.
TheShonuff888 4 weeks ago
LOL "Its all about the fan's it's not the money" Thats Floyd's bullshit quote man..!! hahahaha
mctoddjoj 4 weeks ago
@mctoddjoj funny how manny's been saying that he wants to give the fans what they want...then reveals floyd OFFERED HIM $40mil to fight and that he turned it down...and then talking about he doesnt know if he wants bradley because bradley isnt that marketable and wanting a bigger stadium for more money...we already know floyd wants money...i mean he calls himself "money mayweather"
PhoenixEdwards 4 weeks ago
@PhoenixEdwards The fight can gross $150M and Floyd wants ALL the PPV proceeds so he could make $100M to Manny's $40M. No self-respecting champion, much less the undisputed Pound-for-pound, will accept that "offer". Gimme a break!
AccordGTR 4 weeks ago
@AccordGTR how does anyone floyd said he wont give him any PPV proceeds, if u hear what floyd has said is all they talked about on the phone was about the fight purse, have u heard floyd said he wont give him any ppv money, u cant believe everything u hear from just one camp,
LIKWITCREW1 3 days ago
@LIKWITCREW1 Uh, Pacquiao told us in the news report Floyd called him up personally and made the offer of $40M but he keeps all the PPV. Manny replied he'll fight if its 50/50. So you think Pacquiao is lying? Take note there is no BS issue about the Olympic style testing cuz Pacquiao already said yes. Now this BS about a 70/30 split for Floyd. Manny said it was embarrassing to accept that kind of deal. He would have been the laughing stock at home and abroad.
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@LIKWITCREW1 Uh, Pacquiao told us in the news report Floyd called him up personally and made the offer of $40M but he keeps all the PPV. Manny replied he'll fight if its 50/50. So you think Pacquiao is lying? Take note there is no BS issue about the Olympic style testing cuz Pacquiao already said yes. Now this BS about a 70/30 split for Floyd. Manny said it was embarrassing to accept that kind of deal. He would have been the laughing stock at home and abroad.
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@LIKWITCREW1 Uh, Pacquiao told us in the news report Floyd called him up personally and made the offer of $40M but he keeps all the PPV. Manny replied he'll fight if its 50/50. So you think Pacquiao is lying? Take note there is no BS issue about the Olympic style testing cuz Pacquiao already said yes. Now this BS about a 70/30 split for Floyd. Manny said it was embarrassing to accept that kind of deal. He would have been the laughing stock at home and abroad.
AccordGTR 3 days ago
@PhoenixEdwards chicken weather dont even deserve this fight, his been ducking pacquiao for years, i hope team pacquiao will just ignore this cheap shot coward
pedro016541 3 weeks ago
@PhoenixEdwards
Pacquaio approved the lower guaranteed purse BUT Floyd wanted more. Floyd wanted 100% of the PPV share and none for Pacquiao of course.
Do you think this is fair? Lower purse and none of PPV? Pleaseeee...
Link /watch?v=wlpCsYBFFzQ
ChummyChime 3 weeks ago
50/50 or nothing. Both fighters bring in the money, its not about floyd being undefeated its about buisness. floyd booked may 5th, if he wants the next biggest draw in pacman then floyd has to pay a premium to pacman for the may 5th fight & make it even 50/50. Fans of both sides are haters & will never agree with each other. Mayweather cant be calling out pacquiao for may 5th and then saying he wants 60/40 lol thats just straight up disrespect. This fight will never happen because of MONEY floyd
Gold2009Coast 4 weeks ago
@Gold2009Coast well pacquiao just revealed that when floyd called him floyd offered $40 mil guarantee to fight him...and pac says he brings in more ppv sales than floyd so he didnt accept that...but thats only because he fights more...i mean like i said in the video...in floyds last FIVE fights he did what pacquiao did in his SIX fights before marquez PLUS about 30-33% of what pac did in his last fight with marquez but ONLY if arum isnt lyin about the sales like he did with the margarito fight
PhoenixEdwards 4 weeks ago
@PhoenixEdwards the whole point is that both fighters bring in money. "All roads leed to manny pacquiao" and floyd is chasing that. if your gonna chase a big draw in bob arum and pacquiao then be prepared to go 50/50 or the fight aint happening. Floyd fucked up by disrepecting bob and pac by offering 60/40 (40 mill guarantee) so now we can all blame floyd again. The fight aint happening unless floyd mans up and wants the fight by agreeing to pacquiaos terms and thats all there is to it.
Gold2009Coast 4 weeks ago
@Gold2009Coast i say 60/40 and whoever wins gets the bigger split
PhoenixEdwards 4 weeks ago
@PhoenixEdwards yer 60/40 winner gets bigger splits exactly but floyd wont do that lol. Floyd is way above himself and the law and whatever he says goes so i dont think floyd will ever man up and do it that way or even go 50/50 either.
Gold2009Coast 4 weeks ago
@Gold2009Coast and if all roads lead 2 pac y does he have to fight more than floyd to sell as much as floyd?
PhoenixEdwards 4 weeks ago
@PhoenixEdwards you're one of those reasons why floyd thinks he should get all the money in the world... your floyd has no loss but he only beats gatti, corrales, castillo, delahoya, mosley and marquez...... those names aren't as big as those names that pacquiao has defeated..... PACQUIAO DEFEATED greatest boxers we have today PLUS when he defeated them mostly by stoppage....... unlike floyd when facing tough opponent will win by points....NOT DOMINANT AT ALL
babyfaceassassin21 3 days ago
@babyfaceassassin21 ANY1 can win by stoppage or KO thats by luck...not every1 is gonna be affected by getting hit by the same punch as another person who got dropped or cut open...NOT EVERYBODY can box NOT EVERYBODY can slip opponents punches and counter back...NOT EVERYBODY can limit an opponent to landing 15% while at the same time landing 46% of their punches...and what great names has pacquiao defeated without weight draining them or after floyd beat em?? go learn some shit about boxin
PhoenixEdwards 3 days ago
@PhoenixEdwards we can start comparing the FIGHTERS they fought and let's see if you really know your boxing....... anyone can win by k.o thats by luck??? yeah and muhammad ali, tyson, holyfield, jones K.O are by luck as well???? not everybody can box thats not true all can box but most chose to fight..... who's undefeated fighter did mayweather has defeated???? lets just start comparing their opponent ...... you start
babyfaceassassin21 3 days ago
@PhoenixEdwards btw NOT EVERYONE CAN KNOCKOUT ELITE FIGHTERS OF TODAY....... example FLOYD MAYWEATHER..... he cant knockout DELAHOYA, he cant knockout OLD MOSLEY ( MOSLEY wants his trainer to stop the fight with pac), he knockout gatti but even class B-C fighters can knock gatti out.... he cant knockout JUDAH WHILE cotto, clottey and tszyu 2nd round knock him out.... he is 2 pounds overweight against marquez and he cant stopped him as well..... mayweather can only knockout CLASS D FIGHTERS
babyfaceassassin21 3 days ago
@babyfaceassassin21 does mayweather try 2 KO ppl tho?...like i said go learn shit about boxin
PhoenixEdwards 3 days ago
@PhoenixEdwards he CANT K.O THEM..... first if you try to knockout your opponent it is more likely you will get hit and might be knockout and mayweather is very scared of that..... so he cant.... HE CAN ONLY KNOCKOUT CLASS C AND D FIGHTERS....thats a FACT you cant accept....
babyfaceassassin21 2 days ago
hahaha ignorant bitch...........
theotherside35 1 month ago
You know it's not the money but the respect. Floyd is at best absent in the past couple of years and the one guy that gave boxing hope is the Pacman. A deserving 50/50 split on all revenue is the fairest thing that Pac can offer but Floyd still wants to call the shots. Floyd is only marketable in the US while Pac garners audience globally as seen from all media and products combined.
ramgol 1 month ago
@ramgol well u say floyds been absent...look at this...pacquiao became pro almost 2yrs before floyd did...by the time floyd had his first pro fight pac already had 15...if u compare the fights they've both had since floyd became pro...floyd has 42....pac has 44...so people saying floyd isnt fighting enough shouldnt be talking based on that
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
i had to subscribe because your speaking the truth! for great music listen to my page!
PrettyEboy23 1 month ago
paquiao is the duck master of all time! smh hes a fraud!!
PrettyEboy23 1 month ago
WHY THE FUCK CALL HIM OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE ?????? THEN IF MANNY AGREED ON A LESSER SPLIT ...WHAT NEXT ? DROP HIS LAWSUIT??? YOU'RE ARE BEING FOOLED BY THIS COWARD , FOOLS !
1216mredchie 1 month ago
Oh... Forgot to mention the 50/50 split offer is on the purse, not PPV.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
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flippinferdie1 1 month ago
Listen, you seem like you are a cool dude. You have your own opinions and I've made my mine. So I'll end this convo with the latest news of Floyd's #1 fan, Teddy Atlas, stating "Floyd should accept the 50/50 split."
Google keywords, "teddy atlas: Mayweather should accept 50/50"
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 i saw that last nite...i agree with teddy...u know i want this fight to happen...i mean if it doesnt then they said floyds considering the offer martinez made last year to come down to 150 to fight either him or pacquiao...but im not saying floyd shouldn't take the 50/50 with this video...im just saying based on the numbers that have come in i can see why he wouldn't want to
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards
If certain ppl(wealthy & flomos) are willing to pay higher prices for Floyd's fight versus Manny generating more ticket sales and more PPV at a much cheaper prices in both of their last fight, then the dollar amount closely balances itself off. Floyd sells less but @ a higher price. Manny sells more @ cheaper price. It means Manny drew more fans to see him.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards
"numbers dont lie here either...like it shows...from the 1st morales fight to pacquiao's fight with clottey...11 fights and floyd did more in 6 fights"
Are you serious? If we are talking career accumlatives between them both, then it's a different story from your selection of Pac's PPV fights. Again, the last 5 PPV fight comparison is irrational. It's you opinion, so it is what it is.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 how is the last 5 irrational? its been their biggest paydays...if u want to compare to see who the bigger draw is...then compare their fights since fighting oscar because that was the biggest payday for each of them and since then and since they dont even have the actual numbers for pacs last 2 fights who knows if they actually did that much...arum did that with the margarito fight & it ended up less than what he said n if it is floyds done more in 5 compared to pacs 7
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
Floyd brings in more fans? Yea right. He brought in more fans in his last fight that he had a hard time filling the arena and eventually had VIP tickets just being given away. Pacs last fight at the gate sold out quickly. Floyd's jack'd up PPV price is one reason he made 1.25mil PPV. The other reason is the fight undercard. So right now Floyd alone does not draw more than Pac. You're mixing drawing power to dollar numbers. 50/50... no more, no less.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 im not mixing anything...floyd made more in live gate because the prices were higher yes...which only means people were willing to pay more to see him fight...no one cared about the undercard fights...people paid to see ortiz get a ko because they want floyd to lose that badly...and if floyds price being jacked up isnt why he made 1.25 mil then lower prices mean he would've made more since people who didnt want to pay as much could've been paying less
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 and i showed the numbers...yall was sayin "numbers dont lie" about the pac v marquez punch stats...well numbers dont lie here either...like it shows...from the 1st morales fight to pacquiao's fight with clottey...11 fights and floyd did more in 6 fights...compare the last five fights and floyd has more ppv sales also...id say 50/50 for splitting the live gate revenue...but NOT for ppv sales...it should be 60/40 for floyd in PPV
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards
I know Floyd's is own boss and he makes the choices and decisions, but it make him look bad rejecting a 50/50 share. Granted that Pacquiao and Mayweather are big names and 50/50 is reasonable to majority of the public, I can say the ball is now on Mayweathers court.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards
The split should be based on the total # of their career PPV ending @ their last fight, which Manny's slightly higher. Had Floyd been more active he probably would of been above Manny, but at this point he is not. He would of, should of, could of does not cut it, my friend. That's Floyd's own fault for taking vactions and temporary retirements. So 50/50 is a fair deal your boy rejected.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards
Your points are not rational. I know this has nothing to do with PPV, but ask yourself why Ring Magazine still has Pac as #1 P4P. Here's why... Floyd's inactivity. If a credible organization evaluates both of them in rankings based on performances and production, then you can apply the same concept towards the both of them splitting the pot. It don't matter to me on you basing it on only 5 fights.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
And it's ironic at the end of your video you complain about hard workers picking up the slack of lazy ppl who get paid more. Funny how Floyd's inactivity compares to that and him asking to get paid more, LOL.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 he's his own boss so it doesnt matter...when you work for yourself do u have to worry about what others are doing? no...and you tlk about comparing them according to dates...we're trying to determine what they should get NOW not what they did in the past...and to do that we gotta compare the last 5 fights nad u say floyds inactivity has no grounds 2 demand more...ok...if he were as active as manny he'd STILL HAVE higher numbers...he has higher numbers now with LESS FIGHTS
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 and when im talking about picking up the slack n shit...yes floyd works for himself so he doesnt have to worry about others...BUT when he's going to work and he's getting paid and u bring inpacquiao who has brought in LESS even though he fights more then why make it 50/50...like i said...if U were floyd and u were bringin in more like that would you agree to 50/50? fuck wether or not u like floyd or pacquiao...im askin if it was YOU and u knew u brought in more fans and money
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
Even when you eliminated a year and a half off of Manny's PPV career earnings, he still did better than Floyd. Floyd's inactivity in the sport has no grounds to demand more than Manny.
Again, Manny is accommodating Floyd 50/50 share to get the fight done.
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 you talk about floyds inactivity...u say he doesnt fight enough? ok...pacquiao has 17 more fights than floyd does but guess what...manny had 15 fights before floyd even had his FIRST pro fight...so if u wanna compare since floyd turned pro...floyd has 42 fights...pacquiao has 44...big whoop...looks like pacquiao's been inactive too for about the same amount of time
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
Hmmm... let's see here... You begin their career PPV with both of them fighting Oscar. Floyd fought Oscar on 5/5/07 and Pacman fought Oscar on 12/06/08. If you are gonna be fair with PPV#s match them according to the dates. In this case you left out as follows:
- Pacquiao v Barrera 2 - 340,000 ppv buys
- Pacquiao v Marquez 2 - 400,000 ppv buys
- Pacquiao v Diaz - 250,000 ppv buys
flippinferdie1 1 month ago
@flippinferdie1 i started with both of them fighting oscar BECAUSE that fight was the biggest payday for both of them at that point...thats when they both really blew up...but before that floyd was still doing more than pacquiao anyway so it doesnt matter
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
Another vid to win a little floyd's conjugal visitation pass. You need to post more to win. You ignorant fool!
bochokorog 1 month ago
great post man, hey pacquiao's last two fights weren't announce by hbo but bob arum himself, so these numbers could be wrong, and knowing bob it is false!!!!!!
wadud2007 1 month ago
More heat for them Pactards, when will they learn?
GivenQuality24 1 month ago
I agree to 50/50 on the purse but not 50/50 on the PPV returns! Floyd deserves 60/40 in terms of PPV!!!
Belize2787 1 month ago
@Belize2787 yea but i think when they do it they do it as a whole...and with that floyd deserves more if thats how its done
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
men lie women lie.. number don't.. get the dick out ya mouth pacroid.
bertmarx4ever 1 month ago
Excellent Post my brotha!
floopehobaloobie 1 month ago