I think it's a shame that Musee de l'Air et de l'Espace wanted their aircraft back so quickly. With this aircraft in bits at Memorial Flight, it would have been a good opportunity to take measurements so that a replica could be built; rather like was done with a Messerschmitt 262
@popsaka1 The He-162 was restored for static display only. It is now in Storage at the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace near Paris, waiting to be displayed to the public. More on the restoration at : memorial.flight.free.fr
Where is the Heinkel now??? I heard that the real Yellow 11 that was flown by Oberleutenant Emil Demuth Werk# 120074 was in unrestored airworthy condition in a Canadian museum and was recently traded for a british aircraft .
Where is the Heinkel now??? I heard that the real Yellow 11 that was flown by Oberleutenant Emil Demuth Werk# 120074 was in unrestored airworthy condition in a Canadian museum and was recently traded for a british aircraft .
Where is the Heinkel now??? I heard that the real Yellow 11 that was flown by Oberleutenant Emil Demuth Werk# 120074 was in unrestored airworthy condition in a Canadian museum and was recently traded for a british aircraft
Hello, on the previous response about the tailplane horizontal span issue: I have had the mentioned 1/48th kit in the box for 20 years, waiting to correct the tailplane span, and also for a correct scheme I could verify. I have all the decals for Yellow 21, and if I can correct the too long tailplane I will build it, based on your restoration, Thank you.
@elwman Sorry, but we don't have the aircraft in the hangar anymore, so we can't give you those infos. There probably was a misunderstanding about the 21 color. It is certainly not white !
On an internet forum website in the past, someone claimed to have spoken to the restoration director on a French website; that there may have been some question at some point on the color of the 21. I wanted only to clear it up. My other issue is the true horizontal span of the tailplane, between the fins. Monogram Close-up 11 lists the span at 2274mm (7'-5.5"). That seems short. My Trimaster kit tailspan is 3ft too long! Are you able to help? Thanks
A link for drawings is rvresin.com under 1/72 publications. I have studies your website and notice the color difference from the RLM 76 tail cone and the main fuselage lower color. What is the gray color on the fuselage? Also, is it fairly certain now that it should be white "21" instead of yellow "21"? A truly amazing job of restoration, as is the documentation on your website!!
@elwman The tail is in RLM76. The fuselage is not painted in RLM color, but in a gray-green color comonly used on late german aircrafts [look at the recently painted He219 fuselage from the NASM] (very similar to english duck-egg green). Although many books say it is RLM76, we did find the 2 dinstinct colors on the tail & fuselage. The 21 is yellow because we find some yellow traces under the paint & we have 2 original photos of the aircraft showing it's not white. Why do you think it's white ?
@elwman That would have been a great idea. But unfortunately, we couldn't do it due to a lack of time (we have some other great restorations going on...). The aircraft isn't in our workshop anymore, as the restoration is over.
It would be neat to see a replica aircraft of similar design with a more modern engine of equivalent performance. Something that could be safely flown. The tail section would also have to be modified or more specifically strengthened. They had a habit of breaking off when the rudders were worked too hard.
@tommiatkins The restoration of the Heinkel 162 is now over (check our website). The aircraft is now waiting to be displayed in le Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace at Le Bourget airport.
Although the engine is in excellent condition, it cannot be run without the museum authorization as it is a part of the collection. However this would be very risky (unsafe ?)
@memorialflight i know right. Germany did not make the safest and reliable jet engines in the world. but to me it just looks like just the turbine blades can just be replaces with better quality medal. will that work or will the engine have to be completely redesigned?
@memorialflight considering how unreliable and how short a cycle time those engines had? It'd be crimminal to run an original imo. BUT that should stop anyone from building copy with better materials and a higher state of fit and finsih running on. ;^) But I'm crazy that way.
@EnterpriseXI This aircraft is not the property of the Memorial Flight Association. It belongs to the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace (French Air & Space Museum). None of their aircraft is allowed to fly. However we had the opportunity to restore this Heinkel 162 as close to flying conditions as possible, which was quite a unique opportunity.
@memorialflight im sorry but i just don't see the point of doing a complete restoration on this aircraft. why bother restoring it as close to flying condition as possible if this bird will never fly again? i can understand why you would restore the landing gear so it can be displayed on the ground or the cealling but WHY a complete restore?
@EnterpriseXI doing half of the restoration work is not a good restoration... Restoring an aircraft is not just making it look clean... The goal is to have the aircraft back to its original condition
I wonder how much this HE162 cost you unrestored..I work in the aerospace industry with the worlds largest aerospace employer..and have machinist experience, deburing aircraft parts, and now warehouse part of the business for the military... Im a big fan of the HR162 as well as ME262
Simple and crude. Notice that those mains are Bf 109 legs and wheels. No retract lights, just a window and a bar indicator. The fuselage was based on an Heinkel 78 for profile and construction. 30 minute engine life!! She did go from proposal to full production in 69 days with joint R and D. 2,000 a month within a year and glider trained HJs to fly them. Faster than the Me 262 and harder to handle.
As an old A&P/ Pilot doing this stuff seems like old times . Nice breakdown of operations in this vid. Landing gear always seems like a bunch of crazy "monkey motion". And this system is pretty tame.
That . . . is . . . beautiful, I could cycle it all day and just watch it and feel it - gorgeous. I just love WWII German aircraft, engineering brilliance.
Pretty basic design. Are those springs actuating the main gear? I like the little window for the nose wheel.
n74jw 2 months ago
@n74jw Yes they are...
Simple, but reliable design.
memorialflight 2 months ago
I think it's a shame that Musee de l'Air et de l'Espace wanted their aircraft back so quickly. With this aircraft in bits at Memorial Flight, it would have been a good opportunity to take measurements so that a replica could be built; rather like was done with a Messerschmitt 262
Poopingbotham 4 months ago
...a bit rickity, and two bl**dy narrow, but is someone (who?) really bringing the 162 to flying condition? ...How very exciting!!!
popsaka1 7 months ago
@popsaka1 The He-162 was restored for static display only. It is now in Storage at the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace near Paris, waiting to be displayed to the public. More on the restoration at : memorial.flight.free.fr
memorialflight 7 months ago
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Where is the Heinkel now??? I heard that the real Yellow 11 that was flown by Oberleutenant Emil Demuth Werk# 120074 was in unrestored airworthy condition in a Canadian museum and was recently traded for a british aircraft .
johntjg 1 year ago
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Where is the Heinkel now??? I heard that the real Yellow 11 that was flown by Oberleutenant Emil Demuth Werk# 120074 was in unrestored airworthy condition in a Canadian museum and was recently traded for a british aircraft .
johntjg 1 year ago
Where is the Heinkel now??? I heard that the real Yellow 11 that was flown by Oberleutenant Emil Demuth Werk# 120074 was in unrestored airworthy condition in a Canadian museum and was recently traded for a british aircraft
johntjg 1 year ago
@johntjg The Heinkel is in storage right now, at Le Bourget. It is waiting to be displayed, in the public part of the museum...
memorialflight 1 year ago
Hello, on the previous response about the tailplane horizontal span issue: I have had the mentioned 1/48th kit in the box for 20 years, waiting to correct the tailplane span, and also for a correct scheme I could verify. I have all the decals for Yellow 21, and if I can correct the too long tailplane I will build it, based on your restoration, Thank you.
elwman 1 year ago
@elwman Sorry, but we don't have the aircraft in the hangar anymore, so we can't give you those infos. There probably was a misunderstanding about the 21 color. It is certainly not white !
Good luck for your model.
memorialflight 1 year ago
On an internet forum website in the past, someone claimed to have spoken to the restoration director on a French website; that there may have been some question at some point on the color of the 21. I wanted only to clear it up. My other issue is the true horizontal span of the tailplane, between the fins. Monogram Close-up 11 lists the span at 2274mm (7'-5.5"). That seems short. My Trimaster kit tailspan is 3ft too long! Are you able to help? Thanks
elwman 1 year ago
@elwman Contact the Planes of Fame museum in Chino, California. They have one of these parked in their forign hangar.
tz138 3 months ago
A link for drawings is rvresin.com under 1/72 publications. I have studies your website and notice the color difference from the RLM 76 tail cone and the main fuselage lower color. What is the gray color on the fuselage? Also, is it fairly certain now that it should be white "21" instead of yellow "21"? A truly amazing job of restoration, as is the documentation on your website!!
elwman 1 year ago
@elwman The tail is in RLM76. The fuselage is not painted in RLM color, but in a gray-green color comonly used on late german aircrafts [look at the recently painted He219 fuselage from the NASM] (very similar to english duck-egg green). Although many books say it is RLM76, we did find the 2 dinstinct colors on the tail & fuselage. The 21 is yellow because we find some yellow traces under the paint & we have 2 original photos of the aircraft showing it's not white. Why do you think it's white ?
memorialflight 1 year ago
How about some nice accurate three view drawings, since you have an original?
elwman 1 year ago
@elwman That would have been a great idea. But unfortunately, we couldn't do it due to a lack of time (we have some other great restorations going on...). The aircraft isn't in our workshop anymore, as the restoration is over.
memorialflight 1 year ago
It would be neat to see a replica aircraft of similar design with a more modern engine of equivalent performance. Something that could be safely flown. The tail section would also have to be modified or more specifically strengthened. They had a habit of breaking off when the rudders were worked too hard.
n68188 1 year ago
brilliant. Hope you get the engine going too!
tommiatkins 1 year ago
@tommiatkins The restoration of the Heinkel 162 is now over (check our website). The aircraft is now waiting to be displayed in le Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace at Le Bourget airport.
Although the engine is in excellent condition, it cannot be run without the museum authorization as it is a part of the collection. However this would be very risky (unsafe ?)
memorialflight 1 year ago
@memorialflight thats great news. Shame about the engine. It would be wonderful if the machine could fly again. A remarkable peice of history.
tommiatkins 1 year ago
@memorialflight i know right. Germany did not make the safest and reliable jet engines in the world. but to me it just looks like just the turbine blades can just be replaces with better quality medal. will that work or will the engine have to be completely redesigned?
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@memorialflight considering how unreliable and how short a cycle time those engines had? It'd be crimminal to run an original imo. BUT that should stop anyone from building copy with better materials and a higher state of fit and finsih running on. ;^) But I'm crazy that way.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
it feels like a house of horrors...the way doors and windows open and close on their own.....but with a Salamander :-)
taff1976 1 year ago
Marvelous! Didn't think that there would ever be a working sample of that plane. Remarkable.
49bobbyk 1 year ago
is there a chance that one of these beauty's or a repica will one day be reborn and fly like the Me-262?
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI Actually this He-162 Wk.Nr120015 belongs to the Musée de l'Air et de L'Espace.
It has been restored for static display only.
memorialflight 1 year ago
@memorialflight then whats the point of doing a full restoration if this will never fly with a fully working landing gear system?
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI This aircraft is not the property of the Memorial Flight Association. It belongs to the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace (French Air & Space Museum). None of their aircraft is allowed to fly. However we had the opportunity to restore this Heinkel 162 as close to flying conditions as possible, which was quite a unique opportunity.
memorialflight 1 year ago
@memorialflight im sorry but i just don't see the point of doing a complete restoration on this aircraft. why bother restoring it as close to flying condition as possible if this bird will never fly again? i can understand why you would restore the landing gear so it can be displayed on the ground or the cealling but WHY a complete restore?
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI doing half of the restoration work is not a good restoration... Restoring an aircraft is not just making it look clean... The goal is to have the aircraft back to its original condition
memorialflight 1 year ago
@memorialflight ok i can respect that. so thank you for restoring a pies of history.
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@memorialflight but like the 262 u think one day someone will make a flyable replica only with a more safer and reliable engine? that would be awsome
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
I wonder how much this HE162 cost you unrestored..I work in the aerospace industry with the worlds largest aerospace employer..and have machinist experience, deburing aircraft parts, and now warehouse part of the business for the military... Im a big fan of the HR162 as well as ME262
IgaNinja91 1 year ago
where is this HE 162 being restored?
IgaNinja91 1 year ago
fantastic airplane,very nice video!!
hmjets 1 year ago
Simple and crude. Notice that those mains are Bf 109 legs and wheels. No retract lights, just a window and a bar indicator. The fuselage was based on an Heinkel 78 for profile and construction. 30 minute engine life!! She did go from proposal to full production in 69 days with joint R and D. 2,000 a month within a year and glider trained HJs to fly them. Faster than the Me 262 and harder to handle.
beowulf342000 1 year ago
@beowulf342000 i thought the Jumo engine had a life of just one day
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
Looks a bit odd with the gear units retracting/extending one at a time rather than all together.
MrZlodeus 2 years ago
will this fly again? pleeease say yes
player1diao 2 years ago
@player1diao i dont think it never will
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
As an old A&P/ Pilot doing this stuff seems like old times . Nice breakdown of operations in this vid. Landing gear always seems like a bunch of crazy "monkey motion". And this system is pretty tame.
wrh61 2 years ago
Great stuff....uv been waiting for some thing like this....
Asishsanyal2234 2 years ago
Wow. This is great! I wish I would have seen this BEFORE I built my Revell 1/32/He 162!
GCOLE2 2 years ago
ufffff! click clack and go!!! i love it!! nice! not nice BRILLIANT video! WELL done!
shotibf109G2 2 years ago
Will this actually be flown post restoration?
jpatt1000 2 years ago
@jpatt1000 i dont think this bird will ever fly again. probably because there rare birds
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
we had no idea how to design landing gear in America until we smuggled some of Germanys top landing gear engineers out of the country at wars end.
We just used ropes and pulleys to get the job done.
It gave our pilots good exercise
johnnecron 2 years ago 2
That . . . is . . . beautiful, I could cycle it all day and just watch it and feel it - gorgeous. I just love WWII German aircraft, engineering brilliance.
revodes21 2 years ago 11
@revodes21 nazi jk i like nazi planes but i would say that that plane was a last ditch atemt u coudlnt even bail out and the wings were to weak
georgejelfs67 1 year ago
@georgejelfs67 Actually you could bail out. The He-162 was among the first airplanes to have an eject system.
DevSolar 1 year ago
I WANT ONE!!!
terminator363 2 years ago 3
@terminator363 well i hope you got some very deep pockets
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
love the creaks & clicks....
jcabb1 3 years ago 16
Back in the day did they really retract so slow? becouse ive seen BF-109 E footage from the 40s and its much much faster
terminator363 3 years ago
nazi engineering genius
poklik1 3 years ago 2
German engineering, learn the difference.
493175001 3 years ago 4
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just stop kidding, and look at the swastika on wings of this national-sozialist killing machine.
poklik1 3 years ago
Get your facts right, there was not one He 162 that carried swastikas on their wings.
493175001 3 years ago
Wrong
terminator363 3 years ago
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terminator363 3 years ago
Holy s...! Great!
arktischeSonne 3 years ago
Nice :)
triad773 3 years ago
I did not know this was being done. Fantastic! When is it projected to be completed. What type of engine will be used?
choctaw111 3 years ago
Great! Bring this old beauty to life!
BeliVolk 3 years ago
Tight fit!..beautiful..
fernfeyes 3 years ago
Perfect!
hipotos 3 years ago 2
Just amazing! Impeccable workmanship and attention to accuracy.
werknummer 3 years ago
Lovely stuff!
Trent772 3 years ago
Where is this?
MastaMag 3 years ago
Is she being restored to fly?
N.
ThinkingManNeil 3 years ago 3
@ThinkingManNeil sorry no
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago