Philip II met Thebes and Athens met him at Chaeronea in full force; with contingents from Corinth, Phocis, and Achaea. But the Macedonian phalanx was irresistible; and the complete defeat of the allies laid Greece at Philip's feet.
George Rawlinson M.A, Canon of Canterbury and Camden Professor of Ancient history at the University of Oxford
The Albanians supported well the SlavoMacedonians against Turks in the Krushevo Uprising times. Albanians gave a lot of weapons, materials and financial aids to the Macedonian revolutionaries. Both of Albanian and Macedonian revolutionaries co-operated in Ohrid, Korca and Manastir regions.
What I call as important to add here is the fact that Termopylae ranges were the most northern border of Greece. For example, when Persian hordes invaded Greece, the Greeks chose to fight in Termopylae, because they considered it as the northern point of their territories. If Macedonia, Epirus and Thrace were of Greek populations, why Greeks didn't fought for example in Macedonia if Macedonia was 'land of Greece'?
The Albanians position is not motivated by political goals, mate! Albania like Macedonia was divided by chauvinist countries like Serbia, Montenegro and Greece. More than 60% of our territories is out of Albania state. Can you find a single nation in Balkan (or Europe) who is bounded by itself?
My friend, Albanians and SlavoMacedonians must be allies, not enemies. We have common enemies (Greece and Serbia) and interests.
After all, why some Macedonian nationalists are tended to hate as much as they can Albanians without reason. You know very well, that Albania is the only country in Balkan who recognizes Macedonian minority in its territories. Macedonians have their schools in their own language, unlike in Greece or Bulgaria where they does not enjoyed any human right. Albanians and SlavoMacedonians were allies during recent centuries. Remind what did happen in Krushevo Republic.
@ALBPelasgian THey chose Thermopylae because of Geography moron. Macedonian and Thessalian Lands are undefendable being flat lands without defensible positions.
"Erebos" as an ancient name that was used to describe 'hell' means in Alb. 'night or darkness'. It seems that you are still in dark ages as long as you think in this way. Read Herodotus you retard and you will understand where Hellas begun. When Xerxes's hordes passed Paeonia, Macedonia, Thessaly were not still in Hellas. But when Xerxes reaches southern of Thessaly, Herodotus stated that Hellas begun from there. Is that clear?
@ALBPelasgian I know what Erebus means and I am glad the Albanians read Hesiod's Cosmogony and Theogony to know who EREBUS is. I am also glad that they read Herodotus but I was not surprised to find that they add their own bullshit as they read it . Histories Book 7, 170-173 will tell you that the original plan was to defend Thessally but they were advised by Alexander I that the Persian force was too great so they chose Theromopylae. It will also tell you there the Thessalians were Greek.
@erevos111 You think that only Greeks have right to read ancient accounts!? They're property of all mankind not a private books. My position about Thessalians is that they got Hellenized strongly but they have also some Illyrian roots (because Illyrians penetrated also in Thessaly). Some customs of Thessalians were Illyrian (or Northern) but their tongue was a kind of Hellenic dialect. (continue)
@ALBPelasgian Herodotus makes known that: "...Thessalians, were the first
of the Hellenes who gave themselves over to the king". So exclude Paeonians, Epirots and Macedonians as being Hellenes. My point is that though Herodotus tried to show some Hellenic descent on Macedonian king, other passages says the contrary of his statement since Macedonia does not figure in Hellas.
The video is is partially good! Since I don't admit with the current SlavMacedonian position, I have many points to refute in their claims. But, an another times. While, the Greek position is entirely motivated by political goals derived of Megali Idea for doubling of territories in account of others. Macedonians were never recognized as genuine Greek. They were linguistically differing, subsquently they differ also in ethnicity and in life manner.
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bergthorn 2 years ago
Philip II met Thebes and Athens met him at Chaeronea in full force; with contingents from Corinth, Phocis, and Achaea. But the Macedonian phalanx was irresistible; and the complete defeat of the allies laid Greece at Philip's feet.
George Rawlinson M.A, Canon of Canterbury and Camden Professor of Ancient history at the University of Oxford
PART I (ca. B.C. 700 to B.C. 323)
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
The Albanians supported well the SlavoMacedonians against Turks in the Krushevo Uprising times. Albanians gave a lot of weapons, materials and financial aids to the Macedonian revolutionaries. Both of Albanian and Macedonian revolutionaries co-operated in Ohrid, Korca and Manastir regions.
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago
What I call as important to add here is the fact that Termopylae ranges were the most northern border of Greece. For example, when Persian hordes invaded Greece, the Greeks chose to fight in Termopylae, because they considered it as the northern point of their territories. If Macedonia, Epirus and Thrace were of Greek populations, why Greeks didn't fought for example in Macedonia if Macedonia was 'land of Greece'?
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago 2
Excellent question and a very bad statement below, Albania has Macedonian lands, Albanias position is entirely motivated by political goals also?
Kozabashia 2 years ago
The Albanians position is not motivated by political goals, mate! Albania like Macedonia was divided by chauvinist countries like Serbia, Montenegro and Greece. More than 60% of our territories is out of Albania state. Can you find a single nation in Balkan (or Europe) who is bounded by itself?
My friend, Albanians and SlavoMacedonians must be allies, not enemies. We have common enemies (Greece and Serbia) and interests.
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago
After all, why some Macedonian nationalists are tended to hate as much as they can Albanians without reason. You know very well, that Albania is the only country in Balkan who recognizes Macedonian minority in its territories. Macedonians have their schools in their own language, unlike in Greece or Bulgaria where they does not enjoyed any human right. Albanians and SlavoMacedonians were allies during recent centuries. Remind what did happen in Krushevo Republic.
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago
@ALBPelasgian THey chose Thermopylae because of Geography moron. Macedonian and Thessalian Lands are undefendable being flat lands without defensible positions.
erevos111 1 year ago
@erevos111
"Erebos" as an ancient name that was used to describe 'hell' means in Alb. 'night or darkness'. It seems that you are still in dark ages as long as you think in this way. Read Herodotus you retard and you will understand where Hellas begun. When Xerxes's hordes passed Paeonia, Macedonia, Thessaly were not still in Hellas. But when Xerxes reaches southern of Thessaly, Herodotus stated that Hellas begun from there. Is that clear?
ALBPelasgian 1 year ago
@ALBPelasgian I know what Erebus means and I am glad the Albanians read Hesiod's Cosmogony and Theogony to know who EREBUS is. I am also glad that they read Herodotus but I was not surprised to find that they add their own bullshit as they read it . Histories Book 7, 170-173 will tell you that the original plan was to defend Thessally but they were advised by Alexander I that the Persian force was too great so they chose Theromopylae. It will also tell you there the Thessalians were Greek.
erevos111 1 year ago
@erevos111 You think that only Greeks have right to read ancient accounts!? They're property of all mankind not a private books. My position about Thessalians is that they got Hellenized strongly but they have also some Illyrian roots (because Illyrians penetrated also in Thessaly). Some customs of Thessalians were Illyrian (or Northern) but their tongue was a kind of Hellenic dialect. (continue)
ALBPelasgian 1 year ago
@ALBPelasgian Herodotus makes known that: "...Thessalians, were the first
of the Hellenes who gave themselves over to the king". So exclude Paeonians, Epirots and Macedonians as being Hellenes. My point is that though Herodotus tried to show some Hellenic descent on Macedonian king, other passages says the contrary of his statement since Macedonia does not figure in Hellas.
See ya
ALBPelasgian 1 year ago
The video is is partially good! Since I don't admit with the current SlavMacedonian position, I have many points to refute in their claims. But, an another times. While, the Greek position is entirely motivated by political goals derived of Megali Idea for doubling of territories in account of others. Macedonians were never recognized as genuine Greek. They were linguistically differing, subsquently they differ also in ethnicity and in life manner.
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago
@ALBPelasgian Phillip was not recognised as Helene by one ATHENIAN for political reasons. (Demosthenes)
erevos111 1 year ago
Bravo, Pozdrav od Bitola.
MacedonianSoldier 2 years ago