@100bigears Obama didn't take away a single rocket. Congress took away the space shuttle and ended the constellation program, but both were very wastefully expensive and not really worth the money. There are still many more rockets in the United States owned by private companies. You will soon see companies such as SpaceX and Orbital sending supplies to the ISS, and eventually crew in the next few years.
I'm not so sure about an elevator from Earth to Mars...that wouldn't really..work. xD Unless there were several different elevators with docking stations for the transport but it seems a bit impractical. It'd probably be better to send a ship up by using the elevator then let the ship fly to Mars, or dock with another elevator coming from Mars.
@HilbertGuy The laser and elevator only operate up to an orbit of a few miles high, the moon however is tens of thousands of times further away so they don't get in each others way.
@HilbertGuy Sorry to just now reply.. The space elevator only goes to a height much lower than where the moon orbits. It would go to an area close to geostationary orbit (where most of the telecommunication satellites are). Geostationary orbit is at an altitude of around 22,236 miles, whereas the moon is at an altitude of 238,857 miles.
@WargoDsssss Possibly, but who knows? Even that price would be less than 1/40th what many have paid to go the the international space station and that is a much lower orbit.. I call that major progress. But yet again, that figure has no practical basis.
The elevator is slow. Earth to GEO is about 7.5 days. For another 10 days, you can coast out to the end of the tether, let go, and be flung anywhere between Venus and the asteroid belt before burning your first pound of fuel.
The elevator to Mars is another elevator set up on Mars to get to the surface and to throw stuff back to Earth the same way.
As a system, we could throw tons of payload back and forth using very little fuel. Sure beats tons of fuel for a little payload using rockets.
1. why is ti so small? i expect it to eb the thickness of the world trading center or soemting, we need to move LARGE amount of materials into space cheap, that's why we making this right?
2. plz explain why it's a laser and not a giant electrical cable powered either by the sun at the top or powerplants down here.
otherwise, this is a great idea. really opens up teh new frontier for us. back in teh days NASA used to get blank chaques. with that was today.
1. The strength of the material allows it to be relatively small, but this is really just an artistic example and ultimately the thickness would be determined based on what you were using it for.
2. The laser transmits power to a type of solar array that absorbs energy from the laser the way a solar panel absorbs energy from the sun (sort of). This allows you to not have to suspend the extra weight of a tens of mile long cable from the elevator.
That's so cool. Believe it or not but I remember once as a young teenager reading an aerospace science book and imagining an elevator that could extend to space. I wonder if we will start mining Jupiter's gases for fuel as well.
For a geosync version, we'd need a large supply of carbon nanotubes, and it would also have to be close to the equator on the Earth end of it.
The alternative is a "space fountain", which could be made using presently available materials; it doesn't need to reach geosynchronous orbit and it can be placed anywhere on the Earth end of it. It would need near-constant power to fire projectiles up from the Earth end to support it, because it wouldn't be able to support its own weight otherwise.
Yep. If you are younger and want to help this idea along and nanotubes/graphene/etc in general then become a chemical engineer/materials scientist. Its really not that hard, just study for a few years.. Then you can contribute to turning scifi to reality and beyond!
As Win Wenger, renowned genius proposed on his site winwenger . com/elevator . htm, that it is possible to build space elevator even without ribbon made from nanotubes. The weight of the ribbon made from materials which we can now produce (not nanotubes), can be supported by solar sails in specific points of its length (like f.e. every 10 km of its height).
We don't need to wait for 20th km ribbon made of nanotubes for 50 years, we can build it now.
For future space elevator I would create ribbon from nanotubes and on it I would put thin silicon layer like in solar panels, which could then also generate power for space elevator. Nobody would then need to send power to space elevator by using laser beam from Earth which is not very efficient because of absorption in the air (20 000km). It's needed just very thin solar layer in the ribbon, because of the length of the ribbon will enable to generate enough energy for space elevator to ascend
10 years to build it? or 10 years until it is commercialised. i'm pretty sure they can build it much quicker than that. its an oil rig, a satellite n an elevator
I sure wish.. Too bad technology lovers aren't politically active. Put pressure on your local representatives to increase NASA and other technology funding! If you don't, who will?
It was meant to show a elevator ribbon on both Earth and Mars. Someone else also made the same mistake from seeing the video, but yes I realize that that would be impossible.
i like the solor power ribbin, ingenious... put one on both sides of the earth and wow thats alot of power... the idea is facinating, but the idea to run one to mars is impossible because of rotation... it would have to be one once a year when the beam lined up with mars
Imagine if you had an space elevator on both mars and earth. Then another satelite base station near earch of those with elevator belts at angles towards another station located above the plane of the orbit of the planets somwhere above the sun rotating at the speed of the planets. So ya you can ride elevators from one planet to the next no matter what orbit it was in and the time would always be the same.
I remember when people were talking about small personal computers. Critics thought it was crazy, but guess what? It happened. I don't ever want to hear the word impossible again. Anyone who says impossible is just ignorate or stupid.
It is up to private individuals to get us into space. NASA is a defeated old wreck. They had to be reordered to do their jobs and get us to the moon and their reply was "... it can't be done....".
I think, the space elevator could solve the energy problems and environmental problems associated with reliance on finite fossil fuels and nuclear energy. We could produce electricity from sunlight in space and send it to earth using microwave technology. Due to the high cost of payload delivery into space, this it's not possible yet but if the space elevator becomes reality it could reduce launch cost per pound of payload.
From a pure technical point of view the project is possible today if some form of Paul Birch's design was adopted for an elevator to space. What is missing is the political will and funding.
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As for jealous bozos who think US never made it to moon--go soak your heads. Yes, we made it. Though likely China will be first with permanent base. There are now more honors students in China than there are students altogether in US. Our president is world leader in opposition to science and scientific applications, and enjoys support of religious fundamentalists who will probably dominate US science education.
Laser canon better than skyhook cables. Cables susceptible to harmonics. Skyhook-place satellite in geosynchronous orbit, spin cable out--big weight on up side to hold balance--until it stretches 42K km to ground. Anchor, run cable cars up/down. What holds it up?
Replace cable with light, turn on/off as needed. Push 21 KT/yr into space with light. We can concentrate light to generate pressure necessary to lift that kind of mass, but to do it cheaply? What is expected cost/kg?
Thank you for posting this!!! I have been waiting for the space elevator concept to really get out into the public eye, and you are helping with that!
At the end of the video, when the cable goes up to a docking ring, a structure begins to be built- is that a huge space station complex?
We need to get into space not just for commercial profits, but to ensure the survival of the human race. "Don't keep all your eggs in one basket." The eggs are people, and the basket is Earth.
CANT BELIEVE THIS SHIT, space elevator technology WTFFFF
PEOPLE NEED BETTER SAFTY IN CARS, BETTER ENGINES, LESS CO2, FUCKING HELLLLL MENNN, THIS IS STUPID WAST BILLIONS ON MILLLIONS ON USELESS SHIT WHILE OTHERS ARE DYING ! HUMAN KIND HAS INDEED STUPID FUCKS I WISH WHO ARE IN TOP POSITIONS, ILL WISHS FOR THEM ALL BASTRADS, NASA SUCKS MY DICK
If you wish to rid yourself of your stupidity please indulge in the evidence that the landing was not a hoax. Check out en*wikipedia*org/wiki/Independent_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings <replace * with .
Why are the reflecters on the moon we left if we havent been there?Is it easier to keep 30k scientists quiet for 30 years than go to the moon?(The hubble telescopes lenses are not configured to focus on objects as close as the moon for your information)
I would like to ask also that future commenter's not use vulgar language or their posts will be deleted. I will leave msdnvp's comment and my explanation because I believe it might help those who take issue with it understand. Also in the future please make an attempt to use proper grammar and refrain from using caps as it is not only hard to read but also invalidates your point before your words have a chance to do so.
firstly FUCK YOU, we didnt land on the moon 1969 was the year when you fucking americans lied to the whole world, the transmissions were seen by the ozzyz the craft was orbiting around the earth and later they done the spescial effects in some large studio, fuck ur self who believe in this shit. why dont they point hubble on the moon and take RAW data and display to public ? NASA knows it liars
There is no proof that what you believe is true either. Don't you think someone had already said something about a lie THAT huge? There is no threat from other countries so why hasn't any of the staff of the movie's makers come out to say something?
Wow, that's so cool. I think the material of the ribbon will have to be something more than just carbon nanotubes, because I'm not sure that it being 100 times stronger and 6 times lighter than steel would work, not at that scale. I can't wait until I can start my research on this as a materials engineering grad student in a few years. Do we have lasers that powerful?
As far as I know we can scale current lasers up to that level however its more about lowering the costs of running the lasers by making them more efficient than about inventing one powerful enough.
In that case I would think the best option would be to harness the conducted power from the ribbon while insulating the climber from the charge. As for time if you could manage 60mph it would take in the order of 18 days for leo however the elevator would likely be of better use for heavy hauling applications.
Of course, good point. but that would not not look that good on the video. lol. About moonlanding... well, nevermind, it´s a matter of faith, I guess. But just to point out... that LEM takeoff "pre-starwars" there, was just hilarious.
I can't explain technically why but I have read multiple explainations about how to get around this problem and I know that it is possible. My guess would be that it involves insulation and/or actually using the conducted electricity or using a non-conductive material.
difficult. It needs more than one cable, because it could be damaged by space trash. They have to stabilize the station after every ride. they have to break the lift on the second half of the way up. And what about the electrificy ? The earth is turning.
Actually, moon bases will be harder than Mars bases due to regolith. This material can be dust at first, then turn solid. As a result, we cant dig farther than 6 inches on the moon's surface, unless we want 6 inch basements or horrible foundations. A drill to go any farther will need to be the size of a vacuum cleaner.
"You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!"
Great video just a little humor there. Nanotech will be seriously important this century. Just think what some people would think of us who were middle age in 1907. We are magical.
Just feed Michael Moore all the free chili he can eat and we can use his fat ass to power us into space...... how is that for an intelligent comment...or to the ladies..I have a space elevator in my pants.. want to take a ride.....stay tuned for more intelligent comments from quaheedus....
The video had some really good visuals, nice imagery... but the opera music, while appropriate, seemed overly dramatic to the point of funniness... btw I have read about the space elevator, and it does look AWESOME. all we need to do is get a machine to spin out those ribbons longer than a centimeter or so and we're on our way.
Gee, i figure it would probably fall down or break?? Jeez what kind of statement is that anyways? If we stopped building things that could be messed up or destroyed by terrorists or another country then there wouldn't be anything to build. That kind of logic is the same as saying you arent going to have kids because they could get hurt. If you never make it thats worse because thats like having it get destroyed before it exists.
a more apt reply couldn't be formulated. even my immediate responces of anti terror tactics or the duh no brainer it won't 'Fall' cuz it's not standing it's hanging. humble beside your astute points . keep on man. we'll get there.
Interesting concept sure. But there is much to do here on earth (preventing people from blowing everyone up) before the appropriate funding should be spent on such a machine.
i certainly hope there will be bigger achievements in this century than a space elevator, as i don't c the requisite technology needed to build one as being that far off, more problems will be with funding and such bureaucratic stuff. lol and with our sun starting to die is so far off, we'll either be extinct first or we'll have repeatedly been set back thousands of years or we'll be offplanet by then hopefully cuz its billions of years away
shame on you. (me too cuz i know what you're saying)
We won't get much done till we get over the outdated malthusian idiocy meme the keeps rearing its' stupid ugly head: like the freekin alarm clock that won't die no matter how u smash it cuz u haven't really woken up yet : )
I think the thing about mars is that this type of elevator can work on any planet.. so an elevator to shuttle things up and down from orbit of mars will expedite the colonization process.. ohterwise we'd have to have a rocket fuel distillation company ( like exxon or haliburton) to shuttle back and forth,, actually, I think that yellowstone will blow her lid long before that happens and we won't be worrying about red giants or mars colonies anyway..
It really does not matter to be quite honest. When our planet cannot survive because the sun has grown into a red giant and is eaten by the sun we're all going to die and none of this will matter. ALL that matters is getting off this rock and onto other, habitable, systems. That will not come from a space elevator, and the technology to take us to other stars will likely get us from the surface to space as well.
It is a cheaper and in the case of 100% solar powered free way to move things to and from space such as supplies etc. Red Giant wont happen for billions of years.. We have to get off this planet but the only way its going to happen is if its affordable and profitable and the space elevator is all about cutting costs.
We will become a type 3 society way before the sun blows up, and that won't be much of a problem. Today we can move the earth, and we're not even type 1.
"the technology to take us to other stars will likely get us from the surface to space as well." likly true, meanwhile lets not go to or develope any space tech beyond the horribly wastefull rockets we now use untill the sun blows up? WTF is that?
There sure are a lot of complaints about the selection of music on this video. I didn't see anything wrong with it. Just sounded like the regular fare they play on PBS documentaries. What other type of music do you expect to hear while riding an elevator? If you think plane rides are boring, just imagine waiting through one of these elevator rides.
Well I thought it was established that we never went to the moon anyway. But this space elevator seems like a good idea. But I can't afford to put fuel in my car let alone a rocket ship.
Hah just by conspiracy theorists which have been proven to be wrong countless times lol. Glad you think its a good idea, hah I agree thats what new technologies are there for to provide cheaper and cheaper means for your ascent!
Hmm - I just wish we'd use the vast amounts of money this involves to sort out our own planet, esp to feed the hungry............this can wait, they can't.
This can provide access to a vast area containing vast resources. We can provide large areas for those in overpopulated areas to migrate to, large food growing setups in space, and many other things to help the hungry. We dont have the resources to support the exponentially expanding size of the human race on this one tiny planet especially if we intend to not destroy it in the process of trying.
You couldn't attach it. The moon is in an orbit, how would you attach the two plantary bodies together when they do not, and will not stay in the same position relative to eachother?
Someone else was talking about that in the comments, I've watched the video, and understand the video has nothing to do with the moon. I meant to post as a reply, not a new comment.
yeah great - lets go mess around conquesting other planets. theyre out there for the taking. theres got to be a tonne of MONEY to be made from this. go for it. lets spread our greed disease outside of the stunting confines of our own planet.
maybe it is our destiny. But you mis-read my words. I dont see humanity as a disease far from it - its the greed thats often at the forefront of our technology (providing the funding and therefore influencing agendas) that is highly suspicious. We are quite clearly uncapable of dealing with our own planet with any compassion or respect so how can we be trusted outside our planet.
Just for reasons of public image, "Orbital Tether", please. ^_^ "Space Elevator" sounds silly to a lot of people who might otherwise be excited about the project.
the laser shoots particles of light and also energy radiation that would effectively push an object in zero gravity through space if it had the proper receptor (sails)
I like the music a little and the animation stuns me. Great vid, but it seems so costly and far away. But perhaps I'm just relating it like I'm in 1902 and flying faster than three times the speed sound and for commercial purposes seems distant. But sooner or later, with the drive to do it, it'll be done...hopefully by us.
I agree its costly and there is suffering on earth. Yet from the riches of space made available by new technologies and things like this we can better sustain our population like we cant here. Asteroids and other sources of materials and space colonies to sustain life will better the human condition.
We need to seperate our warring factions instead of sitting on earth and fighting. Just as the europeans explored america as many before them we must explore space and expand our civilizations home before we get too overpopulated and under nourished.
Personnaly, I don't believe in the expansion of our civilizations (thanks for plurial) on space, I mean where millions of human will live on natural or artificial sattelites.
I agree that in the futur, there will be some colonies (sciences and commercial-resource purposes), but not extraterrestrial nations.
We have to someday because there isnt enough room on earth for our expansion look at our numbers in the last 100 years.. There will be plenty who stay but for the sake of space and animal habitats we must eventually start expanding into space.
we really neeed to establish colonys on all the planets we can reach,were on a knife edge of extinction even with out all the things humans do to each other, all itll take is one good sized asteriod and, wham , game over
I'm sure it will, but I have to wonder how big a leap forward it really is while there are still so many who go without adequate housing, education, drinking water etc etc.
a SAD fact to reality is that as we grow in power, humanity will still never hit its full potential..because of how far apart countries all are, plus our government are idiots, and all tehy want is power..so...this'll be a while...LOL
This is why you must not rely on your government ^^ When this does happen it will be done by the people not by a government. Just as NASA doesnt put coke ads on the space shuttle they arent going to build a space elevator to make money. I could always be proved wrong but I would keep my eyes on private industry for the majority of advances in the coming years.
Wow, Space elevators, nanotechnology, Genetics,etc. when we want it we (humans) have no limits, it will be a good idea to work harder in this and in all top tech projects.
The scientists should work faster and finish this project in 2015, government should fund it, set as priority number 1, otherwise the Chinese will make greatest achievement of 21st century in 20 years.
The question is how to produce carbon nanotubes much cheaper? It will be also useful material for building 10 times higher scyscrapers than todays highest buildings
Look up interplanetary ventures which is a program which seeks to be like nasa, which is lead by the people and science instead of by politics. Who would you rather have control science afterall? Scientists and the people or lobbyists and politicians?
If you ever want this to happen you can't rely on the government to do everything for you and the rest of the worlds citizens. The people must do for themselves not wait for the powers to do for them. There are many publicly funded programs from the people for the people to create new technologies and start new projects which you can and should be a part of.
Exciting video! Music is also great! I knew about the concept of space elevator 8 years ago. Instead of giving money for war in Iraq government should invest it in space elevator and solar sails. From my perspective it will be really one of the greatest achievements of 21st century together with telomeric research, which will significantly prolong our life and will enable rejuvenation of our cells.
Although that would be true, though at this point seems impractical. I suggest that we first preserve our history, species's DNA that would spawn a biological balance, and any necessary knowledge when we do have this accessibility to space and other body's in space. Thanks for posting this video, you seem very heartfelt about this topic.
Favorited and put in Best Misc. Videos playlist.
actionadventures 3 months ago
@actionadventures Awesome, glad you enjoyed!
sirachman 2 months ago
Had the 1.2+Trillion spent in Iraq and Afghanistan been invested in Space Exploration, perhaps the Elevator would be a reality
khbkb 4 months ago
@khbkb Indeed.
sirachman 2 months ago
Too bad Obama took away all of the United States Rockets.
100bigears 8 months ago
@100bigears Obama didn't take away a single rocket. Congress took away the space shuttle and ended the constellation program, but both were very wastefully expensive and not really worth the money. There are still many more rockets in the United States owned by private companies. You will soon see companies such as SpaceX and Orbital sending supplies to the ISS, and eventually crew in the next few years.
sirachman 5 months ago
I'm not so sure about an elevator from Earth to Mars...that wouldn't really..work. xD Unless there were several different elevators with docking stations for the transport but it seems a bit impractical. It'd probably be better to send a ship up by using the elevator then let the ship fly to Mars, or dock with another elevator coming from Mars.
Abengoshis 8 months ago
@Abengoshis An elevator on both the Earth and Mars is what is depicted, not one from Earth to Mars.
sirachman 2 months ago
@sirachman Ah so the second thing I said. BTW Do you look at the time the commenter posted their comment? I said that 5 months ago! xD
Abengoshis 2 months ago
@Abengoshis Haha yeah. I just don't check the comments very often xP
sirachman 1 month ago
what happens when the space pirates get a hold of this technology?
MarktheSharkSheehan 1 year ago
@MarktheSharkSheehan Suddenly things space related get a lot more funding in order to combat the effect of the pirates. Not so bad a deal, imo.
sirachman 10 months ago
@MarktheSharkSheehan I would frankly be happy to simply see a world where space pirates existed.. Haha
sirachman 2 months ago
cant wait!
Daavoid 1 year ago
does this video seriously suggest an elevator to mars??
thats ludicrous
and i doubt any of this stuff is going to happen in the 21st century
there is no material strong enough to withstand the incredible tension this cable would have to
AlexRider001 1 year ago
@AlexRider001 No it does not suggest that.
sirachman 1 year ago
@sirachman ah xD sorry
that cable spanning from mars is probably just out of mars's own atmosphere
sorry about that
that does make more sense
AlexRider001 1 year ago
@AlexRider001 Hey no problem man, it is a pretty different idea I know :)
sirachman 1 year ago
what if a ufo crashes in it ? :D
niklasmich 1 year ago
@niklasmich We discover ufos and no longer need a space elevator xD
sirachman 1 year ago
What happens to the elevator laser when the Moon orbits though?
HilbertGuy 1 year ago
@HilbertGuy The laser and elevator only operate up to an orbit of a few miles high, the moon however is tens of thousands of times further away so they don't get in each others way.
sirachman 1 year ago
@HilbertGuy Sorry to just now reply.. The space elevator only goes to a height much lower than where the moon orbits. It would go to an area close to geostationary orbit (where most of the telecommunication satellites are). Geostationary orbit is at an altitude of around 22,236 miles, whereas the moon is at an altitude of 238,857 miles.
sirachman 10 months ago
1 ride to the space on the space elevetor will cost you like half million dollars... think about it
WargoDsssss 1 year ago
@WargoDsssss Possibly, but who knows? Even that price would be less than 1/40th what many have paid to go the the international space station and that is a much lower orbit.. I call that major progress. But yet again, that figure has no practical basis.
sirachman 1 year ago
The elevator is slow. Earth to GEO is about 7.5 days. For another 10 days, you can coast out to the end of the tether, let go, and be flung anywhere between Venus and the asteroid belt before burning your first pound of fuel.
The elevator to Mars is another elevator set up on Mars to get to the surface and to throw stuff back to Earth the same way.
As a system, we could throw tons of payload back and forth using very little fuel. Sure beats tons of fuel for a little payload using rockets.
vemcg 1 year ago
@vemcg Exactly! Very well put.
sirachman 1 year ago
@vemcg Considering the distance it is still pretty fast considering the time it takes for a cross atlantic voyage on a boat.
sirachman 1 year ago
Greatest Achievement To Come In 21st Century.....starting to end aging fully imo
3tangle3 2 years ago
Interesting!
:)
Maryann :)
MaryannMunroe1 2 years ago
You know how long it would take for the elevator.
sniper77shot 2 years ago
I think the link to Mars elevator too be honest its kind of far fetched. I dont know a lot about physics and stuff but that is kind of far fetched.
EoDChrystian 2 years ago
Its not a link to Mars elevator.
sirachman 2 years ago
few questions:
1. why is ti so small? i expect it to eb the thickness of the world trading center or soemting, we need to move LARGE amount of materials into space cheap, that's why we making this right?
2. plz explain why it's a laser and not a giant electrical cable powered either by the sun at the top or powerplants down here.
otherwise, this is a great idea. really opens up teh new frontier for us. back in teh days NASA used to get blank chaques. with that was today.
powereater 2 years ago
1. The strength of the material allows it to be relatively small, but this is really just an artistic example and ultimately the thickness would be determined based on what you were using it for.
2. The laser transmits power to a type of solar array that absorbs energy from the laser the way a solar panel absorbs energy from the sun (sort of). This allows you to not have to suspend the extra weight of a tens of mile long cable from the elevator.
I'd love to see NASA with a respectable budget..
sirachman 2 years ago
That's so cool. Believe it or not but I remember once as a young teenager reading an aerospace science book and imagining an elevator that could extend to space. I wonder if we will start mining Jupiter's gases for fuel as well.
oathniel 2 years ago
i saw this on 2057 but thay said thay need a stronger ''ribon'' to make it work
wakozako321 2 years ago
That's where nanotubes come in.
sirachman 2 years ago
For a geosync version, we'd need a large supply of carbon nanotubes, and it would also have to be close to the equator on the Earth end of it.
The alternative is a "space fountain", which could be made using presently available materials; it doesn't need to reach geosynchronous orbit and it can be placed anywhere on the Earth end of it. It would need near-constant power to fire projectiles up from the Earth end to support it, because it wouldn't be able to support its own weight otherwise.
Libertarian333 2 years ago
Yep. If you are younger and want to help this idea along and nanotubes/graphene/etc in general then become a chemical engineer/materials scientist. Its really not that hard, just study for a few years.. Then you can contribute to turning scifi to reality and beyond!
sirachman 2 years ago
As Win Wenger, renowned genius proposed on his site winwenger . com/elevator . htm, that it is possible to build space elevator even without ribbon made from nanotubes. The weight of the ribbon made from materials which we can now produce (not nanotubes), can be supported by solar sails in specific points of its length (like f.e. every 10 km of its height).
We don't need to wait for 20th km ribbon made of nanotubes for 50 years, we can build it now.
xgalba00 3 years ago
For future space elevator I would create ribbon from nanotubes and on it I would put thin silicon layer like in solar panels, which could then also generate power for space elevator. Nobody would then need to send power to space elevator by using laser beam from Earth which is not very efficient because of absorption in the air (20 000km). It's needed just very thin solar layer in the ribbon, because of the length of the ribbon will enable to generate enough energy for space elevator to ascend
xgalba00 3 years ago
ah guys is it on 2010 or at 21 something year??
neal1234567809 3 years ago
i want this before i die, i want to see the world becoming like futuristic world before i die, please please please do it quicker!!!!
chongchan 3 years ago 22
hang in there dude lol
wakozako321 2 years ago
Go to college and become a scientist or engineer and help make it happen! It really isn't that hard, just a bit of study and a few years!
sirachman 2 years ago
10 years to build it? or 10 years until it is commercialised. i'm pretty sure they can build it much quicker than that. its an oil rig, a satellite n an elevator
tarohoa 3 years ago
Wow, only 10 billion dollars for a space elevator? I think it will cost more than that....
pouyo3 3 years ago
maybe maybe not
Maplesyrup41 3 years ago
If not, lets get started!
pouyo3 3 years ago
True say
Maplesyrup41 3 years ago
Well, we did blow 700 billion dollars on a bunch of losers, we can surely scrape something. :D
xaviervmewtwo 3 years ago 13
I sure wish.. Too bad technology lovers aren't politically active. Put pressure on your local representatives to increase NASA and other technology funding! If you don't, who will?
sirachman 2 years ago
All they need to do now is figure out how to make large amounts of nanotubes and create a ribbon out of them.
vrshowdown 3 years ago
It was meant to show a elevator ribbon on both Earth and Mars. Someone else also made the same mistake from seeing the video, but yes I realize that that would be impossible.
sirachman 3 years ago
i like the solor power ribbin, ingenious... put one on both sides of the earth and wow thats alot of power... the idea is facinating, but the idea to run one to mars is impossible because of rotation... it would have to be one once a year when the beam lined up with mars
unlogic420 3 years ago
Imagine if you had an space elevator on both mars and earth. Then another satelite base station near earch of those with elevator belts at angles towards another station located above the plane of the orbit of the planets somwhere above the sun rotating at the speed of the planets. So ya you can ride elevators from one planet to the next no matter what orbit it was in and the time would always be the same.
NinjaTech001 3 years ago
awsome video, very kool
kyoso0150 3 years ago
I remember when people were talking about small personal computers. Critics thought it was crazy, but guess what? It happened. I don't ever want to hear the word impossible again. Anyone who says impossible is just ignorate or stupid.
SpaceTecFuture 3 years ago 3
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kid,
you have been seeing too much star wars
papanatas13 4 years ago
People say that and then we still do it.
Bridgerboy 4 years ago 3
Our imagination is what fuels our desire to learn and achieve what we once thought was impossible.
ogicabp4u 3 years ago
Current Technology?
Isn't this based on strong, yet to be made, nanotech?
Colombian459 4 years ago
-Allready- made
Bridgerboy 4 years ago
Well, now I know that- but it still is a challenge to make a long------ string of carbon nanotubes.
Colombian459 4 years ago
Heh times move fast. I can remember reading about nanotubes a few years back in Popular Science and thinking 'yeah right'.
Bridgerboy 4 years ago
A challenge we can, will and are overcoming.
loathi 3 years ago
Yes-
that is true.
Colombian459 3 years ago
Man I would hate to be on the bottom end of that rail pile
whoshotderrick 4 years ago
MARS BITCHES
Darkkunai 4 years ago
I love the background music, It gives yu the feeling that "There's still hope for our future" also awsome video 5 stars, dude
SpaceshipCaptain25 4 years ago
It is up to private individuals to get us into space. NASA is a defeated old wreck. They had to be reordered to do their jobs and get us to the moon and their reply was "... it can't be done....".
ScottMana 4 years ago
I think, the space elevator could solve the energy problems and environmental problems associated with reliance on finite fossil fuels and nuclear energy. We could produce electricity from sunlight in space and send it to earth using microwave technology. Due to the high cost of payload delivery into space, this it's not possible yet but if the space elevator becomes reality it could reduce launch cost per pound of payload.
wb4uprivate 4 years ago
Quite true. Yet another one of the reasons I support such a project as much as I do :)
sirachman 4 years ago
From a pure technical point of view the project is possible today if some form of Paul Birch's design was adopted for an elevator to space. What is missing is the political will and funding.
If you want help join LiftPort
From Star Tech Inc
"Paul Birch of England conceived of a dynamic space elevator, in the form of a hollow ring about the Earth ..." :)
hcm19550216 4 years ago 2
u cant go from earth to mars on a cable men difrent orbits... and it isnet safe from earth to moon mabey mon is moving away from earth to
ikukelas 4 years ago
It was meant to show a space elevator on Earth AND one on Mars. It wasn't meaning to show a cable from Earth to Mars.
sirachman 4 years ago
owke srry bout that then
ikukelas 4 years ago
Sorry? Hey its no problem :)
sirachman 4 years ago
As for jealous bozos who think US never made it to moon--go soak your heads. Yes, we made it. Though likely China will be first with permanent base. There are now more honors students in China than there are students altogether in US. Our president is world leader in opposition to science and scientific applications, and enjoys support of religious fundamentalists who will probably dominate US science education.
pasha582 4 years ago
Laser canon better than skyhook cables. Cables susceptible to harmonics. Skyhook-place satellite in geosynchronous orbit, spin cable out--big weight on up side to hold balance--until it stretches 42K km to ground. Anchor, run cable cars up/down. What holds it up?
Replace cable with light, turn on/off as needed. Push 21 KT/yr into space with light. We can concentrate light to generate pressure necessary to lift that kind of mass, but to do it cheaply? What is expected cost/kg?
pasha582 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this!!! I have been waiting for the space elevator concept to really get out into the public eye, and you are helping with that!
At the end of the video, when the cable goes up to a docking ring, a structure begins to be built- is that a huge space station complex?
We need to get into space not just for commercial profits, but to ensure the survival of the human race. "Don't keep all your eggs in one basket." The eggs are people, and the basket is Earth.
ParsecondSpace 4 years ago
Yes it is. Of course, I often use that comparison also:)
sirachman 4 years ago
multiple hexagons inside a larger hexagon @ frame 2:19... Vicktor Grebennikov, look it up.
bccritters 4 years ago
ribbon? could that effect the gravitational orbit of the earth?
mortichro 4 years ago
CANT BELIEVE THIS SHIT, space elevator technology WTFFFF
PEOPLE NEED BETTER SAFTY IN CARS, BETTER ENGINES, LESS CO2, FUCKING HELLLLL MENNN, THIS IS STUPID WAST BILLIONS ON MILLLIONS ON USELESS SHIT WHILE OTHERS ARE DYING ! HUMAN KIND HAS INDEED STUPID FUCKS I WISH WHO ARE IN TOP POSITIONS, ILL WISHS FOR THEM ALL BASTRADS, NASA SUCKS MY DICK
msdnvp 4 years ago
If you wish to rid yourself of your stupidity please indulge in the evidence that the landing was not a hoax. Check out en*wikipedia*org/wiki/Independent_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings <replace * with .
Why are the reflecters on the moon we left if we havent been there?Is it easier to keep 30k scientists quiet for 30 years than go to the moon?(The hubble telescopes lenses are not configured to focus on objects as close as the moon for your information)
sirachman 4 years ago
I would like to ask also that future commenter's not use vulgar language or their posts will be deleted. I will leave msdnvp's comment and my explanation because I believe it might help those who take issue with it understand. Also in the future please make an attempt to use proper grammar and refrain from using caps as it is not only hard to read but also invalidates your point before your words have a chance to do so.
sirachman 4 years ago
firstly FUCK YOU, we didnt land on the moon 1969 was the year when you fucking americans lied to the whole world, the transmissions were seen by the ozzyz the craft was orbiting around the earth and later they done the spescial effects in some large studio, fuck ur self who believe in this shit. why dont they point hubble on the moon and take RAW data and display to public ? NASA knows it liars
msdnvp 4 years ago
There is no proof that what you believe is true either. Don't you think someone had already said something about a lie THAT huge? There is no threat from other countries so why hasn't any of the staff of the movie's makers come out to say something?
Nike8f7 4 years ago
Wow, that's so cool. I think the material of the ribbon will have to be something more than just carbon nanotubes, because I'm not sure that it being 100 times stronger and 6 times lighter than steel would work, not at that scale. I can't wait until I can start my research on this as a materials engineering grad student in a few years. Do we have lasers that powerful?
Tuzkar 4 years ago
As far as I know we can scale current lasers up to that level however its more about lowering the costs of running the lasers by making them more efficient than about inventing one powerful enough.
sirachman 4 years ago
In that case I would think the best option would be to harness the conducted power from the ribbon while insulating the climber from the charge. As for time if you could manage 60mph it would take in the order of 18 days for leo however the elevator would likely be of better use for heavy hauling applications.
sirachman 4 years ago
Of course, good point. but that would not not look that good on the video. lol. About moonlanding... well, nevermind, it´s a matter of faith, I guess. But just to point out... that LEM takeoff "pre-starwars" there, was just hilarious.
luayursula 4 years ago
Nanotubes are made out of "C"-Atoms (don't know the name in English), and actually they are conductive...
Depotmaster 4 years ago
The earth is turning, so the cable moves through magnetic fields form sun and moon. Won't it burn from the electricity flowing through it?
Depotmaster 4 years ago
I can't explain technically why but I have read multiple explainations about how to get around this problem and I know that it is possible. My guess would be that it involves insulation and/or actually using the conducted electricity or using a non-conductive material.
sirachman 4 years ago
difficult. It needs more than one cable, because it could be damaged by space trash. They have to stabilize the station after every ride. they have to break the lift on the second half of the way up. And what about the electrificy ? The earth is turning.
Depotmaster 4 years ago
Actually, moon bases will be harder than Mars bases due to regolith. This material can be dust at first, then turn solid. As a result, we cant dig farther than 6 inches on the moon's surface, unless we want 6 inch basements or horrible foundations. A drill to go any farther will need to be the size of a vacuum cleaner.
carmen510 4 years ago
I agree. Mars is much more supportive of life than the moon and is a much better choice for settlement and exploration.
sirachman 4 years ago
"You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!"
Great video just a little humor there. Nanotech will be seriously important this century. Just think what some people would think of us who were middle age in 1907. We are magical.
fwarleader 4 years ago
Just feed Michael Moore all the free chili he can eat and we can use his fat ass to power us into space...... how is that for an intelligent comment...or to the ladies..I have a space elevator in my pants.. want to take a ride.....stay tuned for more intelligent comments from quaheedus....
quaheedus 4 years ago
Well you got me there.:p
bunnybooties 4 years ago
The video had some really good visuals, nice imagery... but the opera music, while appropriate, seemed overly dramatic to the point of funniness... btw I have read about the space elevator, and it does look AWESOME. all we need to do is get a machine to spin out those ribbons longer than a centimeter or so and we're on our way.
misfit7707 4 years ago
A beautiful pipe dream. What happens if someone,some terrorist organization, or some other country sabotages the elevator cables?
bunnybooties 4 years ago
Gee, i figure it would probably fall down or break?? Jeez what kind of statement is that anyways? If we stopped building things that could be messed up or destroyed by terrorists or another country then there wouldn't be anything to build. That kind of logic is the same as saying you arent going to have kids because they could get hurt. If you never make it thats worse because thats like having it get destroyed before it exists.
sirachman 4 years ago
a more apt reply couldn't be formulated. even my immediate responces of anti terror tactics or the duh no brainer it won't 'Fall' cuz it's not standing it's hanging. humble beside your astute points . keep on man. we'll get there.
damianpoirier 4 years ago
this is so fucking stupid
seph0000 4 years ago
why the hell is this stupid??
TheTotinator 4 years ago
anyone ever read the book "Lifeburst"? and anyway, they spent 13 billion on the BigDig, so they HAVE TO spend 10 bill on this.
TheTotinator 4 years ago
Interesting concept sure. But there is much to do here on earth (preventing people from blowing everyone up) before the appropriate funding should be spent on such a machine.
Chocokriz 4 years ago
Every day, every year, every century there are problems on Earth if we wait for there to be none we will never do anything at all.
sirachman 4 years ago
"And She's Buying A Stairway To Heaven."
goobectomy 4 years ago
i certainly hope there will be bigger achievements in this century than a space elevator, as i don't c the requisite technology needed to build one as being that far off, more problems will be with funding and such bureaucratic stuff. lol and with our sun starting to die is so far off, we'll either be extinct first or we'll have repeatedly been set back thousands of years or we'll be offplanet by then hopefully cuz its billions of years away
cal3257 4 years ago
hah yes, if we arent we deserve to be extinct lol
sirachman 4 years ago
shame on you. (me too cuz i know what you're saying)
We won't get much done till we get over the outdated malthusian idiocy meme the keeps rearing its' stupid ugly head: like the freekin alarm clock that won't die no matter how u smash it cuz u haven't really woken up yet : )
damianpoirier 4 years ago
.........an elevator to MARS?....forgive me, im skeptical. Believe me though, I'm getting tired of rockets...
I think We'll need a similar type of propulsion soon, though with a different pwer source (nuclear fusion anybody)
sonata1992 4 years ago
Please re-watch the video this has nothing to do with an elevator to Mars.
sirachman 4 years ago
I think the thing about mars is that this type of elevator can work on any planet.. so an elevator to shuttle things up and down from orbit of mars will expedite the colonization process.. ohterwise we'd have to have a rocket fuel distillation company ( like exxon or haliburton) to shuttle back and forth,, actually, I think that yellowstone will blow her lid long before that happens and we won't be worrying about red giants or mars colonies anyway..
singularization 4 years ago
Hah I hear you there, hopefully we can make it offworld first :)
sirachman 4 years ago
It really does not matter to be quite honest. When our planet cannot survive because the sun has grown into a red giant and is eaten by the sun we're all going to die and none of this will matter. ALL that matters is getting off this rock and onto other, habitable, systems. That will not come from a space elevator, and the technology to take us to other stars will likely get us from the surface to space as well.
Mektel 4 years ago
It is a cheaper and in the case of 100% solar powered free way to move things to and from space such as supplies etc. Red Giant wont happen for billions of years.. We have to get off this planet but the only way its going to happen is if its affordable and profitable and the space elevator is all about cutting costs.
sirachman 4 years ago
We will become a type 3 society way before the sun blows up, and that won't be much of a problem. Today we can move the earth, and we're not even type 1.
RDpapichulo 4 years ago
"the technology to take us to other stars will likely get us from the surface to space as well." likly true, meanwhile lets not go to or develope any space tech beyond the horribly wastefull rockets we now use untill the sun blows up? WTF is that?
damianpoirier 4 years ago
I love all the bad elevator jokes.
That solar cell elevator thing looked like a mighty fine idea.
InnerIDesigns 4 years ago
There sure are a lot of complaints about the selection of music on this video. I didn't see anything wrong with it. Just sounded like the regular fare they play on PBS documentaries. What other type of music do you expect to hear while riding an elevator? If you think plane rides are boring, just imagine waiting through one of these elevator rides.
johntheunique 4 years ago
Hell thats why they invented broadband internet, laptops, ipods, and cellphones.
sirachman 4 years ago
Well I thought it was established that we never went to the moon anyway. But this space elevator seems like a good idea. But I can't afford to put fuel in my car let alone a rocket ship.
oh. and watch my video ...
ITVMaudlin 4 years ago
Hah just by conspiracy theorists which have been proven to be wrong countless times lol. Glad you think its a good idea, hah I agree thats what new technologies are there for to provide cheaper and cheaper means for your ascent!
sirachman 4 years ago
It'd be my luck to get stuck on that elevator. How long to the top floor and what kind of music would be played?
goobectomy 4 years ago
lol
sirachman 4 years ago
Hmm - I just wish we'd use the vast amounts of money this involves to sort out our own planet, esp to feed the hungry............this can wait, they can't.
pearlycarole 4 years ago
This can provide access to a vast area containing vast resources. We can provide large areas for those in overpopulated areas to migrate to, large food growing setups in space, and many other things to help the hungry. We dont have the resources to support the exponentially expanding size of the human race on this one tiny planet especially if we intend to not destroy it in the process of trying.
sirachman 4 years ago
You couldn't attach it. The moon is in an orbit, how would you attach the two plantary bodies together when they do not, and will not stay in the same position relative to eachother?
GeneticistAtheist 4 years ago
This has nothing to do with the moon it is an elevator which leads to a sort of counterbalance space station/satellite in geosynchronous orbit.
sirachman 4 years ago
Someone else was talking about that in the comments, I've watched the video, and understand the video has nothing to do with the moon. I meant to post as a reply, not a new comment.
GeneticistAtheist 4 years ago
Oh i see. Sorry about that
sirachman 4 years ago
That was awesome, but the song is so incredibly gay I would be embarrassed to show this vid to anyone.
NexIuguolo 4 years ago
and sirachman, i know this idea would work, and suffering on earth sucks and all, but your comments are the ravings of a retard(no offence intended).
"from the riches of space mae available by new technologies and things like this we can better sustain our population like we can't here"-??!!!
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!!!
FlabberFlob 4 years ago
LASER BEAMED POWER?!!
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
surely the power is sent by microwaves?!
this is a fine example of people trying to sound smart by saying "laser beams".
and besides, isn't this idea from a book by T.G. Wells?
(if it really is "laser beamed power" then i sincerely apologise)
FlabberFlob 4 years ago
i've heard of solar sails using laser power from earth.
NexIuguolo 4 years ago
yeah great - lets go mess around conquesting other planets. theyre out there for the taking. theres got to be a tonne of MONEY to be made from this. go for it. lets spread our greed disease outside of the stunting confines of our own planet.
tombarnett 4 years ago
dude, it's your problem if you see humanity as a disease.
I believe it's the destiny of our race to go into space.
NexIuguolo 4 years ago
maybe it is our destiny. But you mis-read my words. I dont see humanity as a disease far from it - its the greed thats often at the forefront of our technology (providing the funding and therefore influencing agendas) that is highly suspicious. We are quite clearly uncapable of dealing with our own planet with any compassion or respect so how can we be trusted outside our planet.
tombarnett 4 years ago
Just for reasons of public image, "Orbital Tether", please. ^_^ "Space Elevator" sounds silly to a lot of people who might otherwise be excited about the project.
StridentLobster 4 years ago
i dont get the "laser-beamed power" system. i understand the whole ribbon thing and how thin it is and what not. just not that.
wrenthereaper 4 years ago
the laser shoots particles of light and also energy radiation that would effectively push an object in zero gravity through space if it had the proper receptor (sails)
NexIuguolo 4 years ago
loved it!
pAv3t0 4 years ago
sun sails are actually a pretty good idea, since they free up a lot of space on the craft.
and by the time we spot and incomeing meteor its all ready too late.
cthulhlu 4 years ago
I like the music a little and the animation stuns me. Great vid, but it seems so costly and far away. But perhaps I'm just relating it like I'm in 1902 and flying faster than three times the speed sound and for commercial purposes seems distant. But sooner or later, with the drive to do it, it'll be done...hopefully by us.
air37regnum 4 years ago
I agree its costly and there is suffering on earth. Yet from the riches of space made available by new technologies and things like this we can better sustain our population like we cant here. Asteroids and other sources of materials and space colonies to sustain life will better the human condition.
sirachman 4 years ago
We need to seperate our warring factions instead of sitting on earth and fighting. Just as the europeans explored america as many before them we must explore space and expand our civilizations home before we get too overpopulated and under nourished.
sirachman 4 years ago
Good video, 5/5 ;)
Personnaly, I don't believe in the expansion of our civilizations (thanks for plurial) on space, I mean where millions of human will live on natural or artificial sattelites.
I agree that in the futur, there will be some colonies (sciences and commercial-resource purposes), but not extraterrestrial nations.
lukeabate 4 years ago
We have to someday because there isnt enough room on earth for our expansion look at our numbers in the last 100 years.. There will be plenty who stay but for the sake of space and animal habitats we must eventually start expanding into space.
sirachman 4 years ago
how would you make an elevator to a satelite like the Moon if its orbiting...you cant attach something to it from Erth
jukeboxzero 4 years ago
You dont attach it to anything, its basically a very tall tower anchored to geosynchronous orbit
sirachman 4 years ago
but to reach stars and that kind of stuff we will need sun sails
lusteraliaszero 4 years ago
we really neeed to establish colonys on all the planets we can reach,were on a knife edge of extinction even with out all the things humans do to each other, all itll take is one good sized asteriod and, wham , game over
cthulhlu 4 years ago
Lets just leave it as we'll spot it on time, then deflect it away with a blast from a space shuttle.
air37regnum 4 years ago
I'm sure it will, but I have to wonder how big a leap forward it really is while there are still so many who go without adequate housing, education, drinking water etc etc.
honey2heaven 4 years ago
In the future.... people will learn to use other fonts than IMPACT font.
hoovernj 4 years ago
In the future there will be more important things than font.... like content.
sirachman 4 years ago
a SAD fact to reality is that as we grow in power, humanity will still never hit its full potential..because of how far apart countries all are, plus our government are idiots, and all tehy want is power..so...this'll be a while...LOL
FadedWraith 4 years ago
This is why you must not rely on your government ^^ When this does happen it will be done by the people not by a government. Just as NASA doesnt put coke ads on the space shuttle they arent going to build a space elevator to make money. I could always be proved wrong but I would keep my eyes on private industry for the majority of advances in the coming years.
sirachman 4 years ago
Wow, Space elevators, nanotechnology, Genetics,etc. when we want it we (humans) have no limits, it will be a good idea to work harder in this and in all top tech projects.
Alfarouc17 4 years ago
The scientists should work faster and finish this project in 2015, government should fund it, set as priority number 1, otherwise the Chinese will make greatest achievement of 21st century in 20 years.
The question is how to produce carbon nanotubes much cheaper? It will be also useful material for building 10 times higher scyscrapers than todays highest buildings
xgalba01 5 years ago
Look up interplanetary ventures which is a program which seeks to be like nasa, which is lead by the people and science instead of by politics. Who would you rather have control science afterall? Scientists and the people or lobbyists and politicians?
sirachman 5 years ago
If you ever want this to happen you can't rely on the government to do everything for you and the rest of the worlds citizens. The people must do for themselves not wait for the powers to do for them. There are many publicly funded programs from the people for the people to create new technologies and start new projects which you can and should be a part of.
sirachman 5 years ago
Exciting video! Music is also great! I knew about the concept of space elevator 8 years ago. Instead of giving money for war in Iraq government should invest it in space elevator and solar sails. From my perspective it will be really one of the greatest achievements of 21st century together with telomeric research, which will significantly prolong our life and will enable rejuvenation of our cells.
xgalba01 5 years ago
Yet another great reason to expand the human habitat so we have more room to house and grow food to feed our people.
sirachman 5 years ago
Although that would be true, though at this point seems impractical. I suggest that we first preserve our history, species's DNA that would spawn a biological balance, and any necessary knowledge when we do have this accessibility to space and other body's in space. Thanks for posting this video, you seem very heartfelt about this topic.
air37regnum 4 years ago