Why having high cholesterol isn't always bad

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

Budweiser is also made of sugars! my dad drank it for years and now he has problems but hell I believe it, my blood sugar is perfect.. My cholesterol is high and my trig are even higher, so I been on a major cleanse from sugars and crap! I have had the tests done like I said.,

[keeyk118b]

i am a gp from singapore and i refuse to prescribe cholesterol meds.

[stopthechem]

i have had a heart attack so can vouch for this information having had a sweet tooth for years..... i mean bulk sugar... thanks for the post

[19HARK]

This is good stuff though I'm surprised he doesn't mention homocysteine in more detail. It is a marker for inflammation that is more destructive to blood vessels and a proven indicator of atherosclerosis and circulation problems. Reduce sugar, take proper Vit B supplements and exercise every day!

[sillymonkey829]

My grandpa has been on cholesterol medication for 15 years, even after my mom told him the dangers and imploring him to use natural supplements like garlic instead. His cholesterol was so low that he was not able to synthesize vitamin D very well, shortly after which he got skin cancer. The effected area was removed, but he is still on cholesterol at the behest of his lying, insidious doctor...

FUCK THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES!

[ludvan64]

Cholesterol blocks up the arteries. That you did not mention.

[redthor60]

My friend drinks this juice & it helped bring down his cholesterol by 100 points in less than 90 days! How amazing is that?

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[dolphina05]

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[marek0086]

Mark Hyman FTW!!!

[halavey]

Mine is over 270 and my HDL is only 40 My trygl is 290--very high and i am fine at 69 not a big drinker, quit smoking many years ago my dad has close to the same thing and is now 99 years old and healthy, no drugs and I do not take a thing because I get pains in my stomach from the pills, all of them. My Mom's side all died young with low cholesterol, heart attacks for the men in their 40's and 50's so I don't by the drug drug theory, they seem to be hard on the body even if they lower it.

[auggiedoggy]

@halavey : Your quitting smoking and moderate drinking are probably the most important things you've done. I have a problem with groups like NCEP (National Cholesterol Education Program) have an expert panel with ties to the pharmaceutical industry.

[agustinromanii]

theres no such thing as "good" and "bad" cholesterol, LDL and HDL are lipo PROTEINS, thats transfer cholesterol from point A to point B and vice versa. Sugar causes inflammatory responses in your arteries and cause LDL to transport cholesterol from your liver to the artery. If you avoid cholesterol and animal fats from your diet, LDL and cholesterol will get oxidized and build up as plaque in your arteries.

[bohemenmann]

Good info! The truth!

[VeoKenKs]

i agree 100% with what you said :)

except for one thing where you said saturated fats were bad but saturated animal fats are good and healthy

[atreewithnolife]

thank you so much this makes sense I was gonna start wiyth Lipex but hearing so much bad reports was scared to , mine is 6.7 whatever that means? anyway Im not gonna take it ! diet excercise !

[trento654]

i have heditary high cholesteral and some quack specialist told me i wouldn't live to 21 with a cholestrol level of 8 if i didn't go on medication," if you go on medication, you'll live a normal life". he didn't even call back to arrage further appointments after my blood test

[trento654]

that's australian mesurement btw

[ronjer1]

he doesn't need to call you back. There are tons of people breaking down his door in order to get cholesterol lowering medication because the media told them so. Do you need to do that?

My grandparents both had cholesterol numbers in the high 400's and both lived over 90, and one is 99 right now. What does cholesterol have to do with this? I don't know if I will ever live that long, not because of cholesterol, but because of this b-i-t-c-h called "life".

[trento654]

that's exacly what i ment, how long you have to live isn't really a factor if you have slighly high cholesterol, as long as you keep it under control you should be fine but this doctor was just pushing drugs on me even though i'm healthy in every other way

he said he'd get back to us with further arangements, his clinic wasen't that big or busy, in fact it was pretty run down

[marek0086]

Ye man theres some really brain dead "Physicians" out there. Do your own research and you'll end up knowing more than a GP on a specific topic.

[quitejaded]

Can someone help me? I love to eat proteins. I eat 2-3 eggs almost every day and I usually have some broiled/stewed chicken for dinner. For lunch, I usually have whatever is laying around (which is bad, I know :( but I hate cooking the night before and refridgerating food then popping it in the microwave. I dunno...)

[victor2cutube]

it's all about the money

[kwrbassist]

@victor2cutube you're damn right about that

[litebug12345]

I worry alot about the potential side effects of "big pharma" prescription drugs, I have always gravitated toward a natural alternative. For the longest time I had no idea that such an alternative even existed for cholesterol! I thought Rx was the only choice. Sterolyn is brilliant no side effects at all for me. I really appreciate this product.

[ronjer1]

I have high choles. and i been eating low fat and high carb for years. Doctor wants to put me on lipitor but i think about it.

Intresting discusion. At first i didnt understand what you ment by 1 truth but after looking it up i know now. You didnt ask him to give proof which is more complicated. but only a truth stmt. So this should be easy for him then cuz he even sais he has proof. oh well, people always say they have proof but always have nothin.

[fatfist]

Well this is the issue of today's evidence-based medicine, where we only see the evidence the big pharma companies want us to see. People are clueless to this fact and have belief in what they are wrongly led to accept as TRUTH. But it's nowhere near truth; let alone proof of anything. Medical research is NOT science; it's big pharma research to figure out how to treat symptoms with drugs. It's NEVER about understanding the root cause.

[fatfist]

All those journals the littlemunchkin was yapping about are available via online subscriptions. It's medical research sponsored by big pharma; nothing else. Conclusions are drawn on studies based on probability, statistics, and very crude approximations. Hence, there is NO TRUTH, or FACT, or PROOF. There is only BELIEF. This is why scientists call medicine a RELIGION. This is what the medical community doesn't want you to know. Medicine has very little to do with the scientific method.

[7410n0]

"This is why scientists call medicine a RELIGION."

I have NEVER heard a scientist call medicine a religion. You got a source for that?

[fatfist]

If the cholesterol medical hype was based on the scientific method, then evidence, facts, and truths, would be used to develop what would be called a Theory of Cholesterol & Heart Disease. This theory, as all scientific theories, would be able to explain existing known facts and be able to produce TRUTH statements. This doesn't necessarily mean it would provide proof for all domains; but it does mean that we would definitely have at least 1 truth statement!!

[7410n0]

It takes time to build up all the evidence for a theory. After the publishing of Darwin's On Origin of Speices, it took us almost a century to come up with the modern evolutionary synthesis.

[fatfist]

A rational and logical thought process must be used in order to determine if people's claims are THE truth. Truth is ascertained by a systemic process, not by somebody's opinion, or how many journals they wrote.

So you see, facts and truths are not relative to a study or a journal; they are NOT relative at all. They are ascertained from a systemic process of resolution.

[7410n0]

Peer review doesn't count?

[fatfist]

littlemunchin,

Yeah, you come here stirring up the board with BIG TALK of medical journals, statistics, library books, non-existent proofs, and you when I call you up on your claims, you start calling me a nut case. Then you complain like a little child that I called you names. Wow! You have serious psychological issues and a superiority complex.

You were asked MANY times to show 1 TRUTH statement, but refuse to. Instead you RUN and HIDE. You're a LOSER!

[fatfist]

tallmunchin said "...your truth statements are not"

This clearly shows that you don't know what a TRUTH statement is and that you think the example I gave you is a false statement about the earth orbiting the sun.

YOU SEE, I KNEW FROM THE GET GO THAT YOU ARE SELLING A RELIGIOUS DOGMA AND TRYING TO DRESS IT UP AS SCIENCE WITH YOUR IGNORANCE AND HOT AIR!!

[fatfist]

tallmunchkin wrote "I think readers can evaluate whether or not you are a nut case"

YES THEY CAN! As the NUT CASE is the one who cannot produce 1, ONE, UNO, UN, ENA truth statement about their claims!!

[tasha122277]

just because doctors are typically not that hip to nutrition and alternative medicine does not mean they are all complete idiots with no valid opinion. you can trust the establishment a little bit sometimes if you do your own homework and stay away from the fringe weirdos.

[tasha122277]

people are getting very confused about choloesterol. When your cholesterol goes up due to health issues (not diet), it is shown clearly in study after study that using cholesterol lowering drugs reduces incidents of death from heart disease. many people really benefit from these drugs. but the first goal should be a healthy diet. lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[jjtopp99]

What you wrote is total B.S.  I'm calling you on what you state: "that study after study shows that statins (cholesterol lowering drugs) reduces incidents of death from heart disease." This just isn't true. Please provide one VALIDLY COMPLETED SCIENTIFIC study that CONCLUSIVELY demonstrates that these drugs protect against heart disease. I seriously doubt that you will be able to do so.

[tasha122277]

well I guess you can start at sciencedaily and a host of several cardiology related journals. or you can ask a cardiologist since you obviously aren't one and your use of the phrase "CONCLUSIVELY" indicates that you don't know much about how these "brainwashed doctors" come to their own conclusions. No one study is capable of demonstrating anything conlusively, that is why there are many in order to reach conclusions.

[tallmunchkin]

I sent one suggestion to jjtopp99, but for what purpose. He or she will simply discount it.

Cut down (severely) on junky foods you know you shouldn't be eating and take a hike, literally, often. Heart disease, diabetes, many cancers - maybe looking at lethargy as a causal factor would be a good, if unpopular, thing to do. It amazes me how people want to blame sugar, doctors, drug companies etc. Anything, but their own lethargy.

[tallmunchkin]

Read

Joint effects of serum triglyceride and LDL cholesterol and HDL cholesterol concentrations on coronary heart disease risk in the Helsinki Heart Study. Implications for treatment

by

V Manninen, L Tenkanen, P Koskinen, JK Huttunen, M Manttari, OP Heinonen and MH Frick

First Department of Medicine, Helsinki University Central Hospital, Finland.

published in the scientific journal:

Circulation, Vol 85, 37-45, 1992

There are so many, it's hard to pick one.

[fatfist]

Saying that someone's cholesterol is not in the right range is like saying that their shoe size is not right, their hair color, their skin color, their height, their penis size, their blood type, their bite radius, AND SO ON.....is not right. Does this make any sense people???? Wake up and stop getting brainwashed by the bullship media hype with NO scientific evidence. I have offered $1000 to my doctors or anyone who can scientifically prove cholestorol causes heart disease!!!

[tallmunchkin]

You probably know you can die in a few days from not having enough water. Well, you can also die from having too much.

"Does this make any sense people????" No it doesn't. It's stupid as are your analogies.

"I have offered $1000.." Crap. Why don't you take the $1000 and go to a library and read the scientific journals? Why don't you do that? A question you really should answer.

[fatfist]

Maybe you should calm down and put your energy towards showing us 1 TRUTH statement about how dietary cholesterol is clogging arteries or causing heart disease. There is a NOBEL prize for this discovery you know....so yeah....my $1000 is really nothing!

You can take your religious studies and your religious journals and put them you know where. Just show us 1 TRUTH statement...that's all.

[tallmunchkin]

So you simnply dismiss the scientific journals as religion and demand whatever it is you consider a truth statement.

I think readers can evaluate whether or not you are a nut case.

You just don't want to put out the effort to learn things.

[fatfist]

Listen big mouth....just put an end to this discussion by PROVING your claim. All you need is 1 TRUTH statement that dietary cholesterol clogs arteries or causes heart disease in any way, and you will CLOSE this discussion in a heartbeat.

Your problem is, that you are selling a religious dogma, otherwise you would have put me in my place a long time ago - right?

Now, do yourself a favor and go take some logic/science courses in order to learn what a TRUTH STATEMENT is.

[tallmunchkin]

Learn the meaning of "proof" You don't understand the term "truth statement." Take some philosophy courses esp. logic and of science.. I have.

You play the 5 year old's game of changing criteria. You accept scientific evidence about the Earth's orbit, but won't about medicine. (Earth's orbit about the Sun is not quite eliptical.)

I'd rather be a "big loser" to you than a childish and ignorant waste of time like you.

You seem to have psychological problems.

That's enough for you, pal.

[fatfist]

If your medical claims have any iota of truth to them, then you will post them here for EVERYONE to see and then you will have put my foot in my mouth for me and shut me up once and for all.

[fatfist]

Go ahead, show me YOUR MEDICAL CLAIMS OF PROOF. Just do it and end this discussion in a hurry and make me look like a fool why don't you? And I will give you $1000.

Show us the scientific proof.

Now go hide under your mother's dress and cry cause you have been exposed as a fraud.

[tallmunchkin]

"Why don't you take the $1000 and go to a library and read the scientific journals? Why don't you do that? A question you really should answer."

You didn't answer this.

[fatfist]

I'll do you a HUGE favor and give you example of a truth statement you little ignorant child.

"The Earth travels around the Sun in an elliptical orbit"

That is a TRUTH statement that is systemically proven to be true.

Now, go out and play with your religious journals and magazines and post here 1 TRUTH statement regarding YOUR claims. If you can't, you are a BIG LOSER!!

[tallmunchkin]

Now you are name calling.

Take philosophy courses and you might learn that your "truth statements" are not.

Take science classes and you might learn that it is not religion.

Take statistics classes then read the huge number of articles. With effort you might learn. "Ignorant child?"  You're demanding people give you a "truth statement." You scientific dismiss evidence as religious while giving a scientific example of what you consider to be a "truth statement."

[fatfist]

Are you a religious fundamentalist? Cause only these quacks continue to blow hot air without offering anything of value to a conversation.

If you think that science functions on beliefs and hypotheses, or is based on what I say, then you are an ignorant little imp.

Let me make it easier for you since you are uneducated or possibly mentally challanged. Open your journals from your library and post the TRUTH statement that proves YOUR claim!

This is the 4th time you are asked.

[JakartaInFlames]

Isn't saturated fat good for you since it strengthen your immune system?

[rwc323]

stop it with the hand, i cant concentrate on your mouth

[Timecapsule]

that hand is out of control

[jfsimard79]

The number one danger is a high sugar diet. When you get too much sugar in your blood, the pancreas over-secretes insulin, which increases platelet stickiness.

[ZiggyHungga]

Organic Butter is good for you!

[mimimozealia]

I'm 14 and I have 270 level cholesterol. LDL - 206. HDL - 41. I know I need to exercise more and eat better. Is there anything else I can do?

[JakartaInFlames]

Just proper diet and exercise. Avoid process food, find your metabolic type.

[america4381]

my cholesterol, is very hight, is 270 im 26 and my doc, gave me lovaza (ome 3) do you have any more info?

[pauack31]

very good...maybe one day the public will understand this and reconsider the use of statin drugs.

[blackberryjuice1]

what are some good strategies to increase your HDL?

[71chevellesupersport]

Walnuts and Almonds, Ive heard, Also I hear Olive Oil Is good in moderation, like Omega 3 and Fish oils. Also High Fiber diet or oatmeal.