well said. the guy on the bus displayed inexcusable behavior. it was an individual thing, but whenever it's a black person, race becomes the issue. this is to perpetuate an IMAGE that ALL blacks are bad.
people say he talked in FLUENT korean towards the end... WTH? no! he just said "kassaekiya" which is a swear word. Even some people here with no korean background knows how to swear in korean like that..
I think the whole issue with blacks being associated with poverty and crime is a double edged sword. I mean, one could argue that they don't do enough to uplift themselves out of their current socio-economic state...On the other hand, when you're born disadvantaged and raised in a hostile environment, it's difficult to grow up and live a "straight" life. A very ambiguous issue, to say the least.
there are educated african american people and then there are just uneducated black people. the dude was obviously uneducated, probably from the 'hood'. wonder what the heck he was doing in korea in the first place. doesn't look like he was in the military... ???
This guy did not flip out because they used the word "niga," he obviously KNEW Korean, considering the fact he was cursing them out towards the end in fluent Korean.
its not only black people who does this I've seen so many white people doing worse things in Korea... its just that stupid Asians overlook ill-deeds that is done by white people. That reeeeally irritates me.
Its the same in Chinese. You'll hear them chatting and hear 'nigga nigga' all the time but it's just used as a sentence filler and it's just like saysing 'umm' or 'ehh' Took a while to get used to when I was in China but of course Leroy has to act like a nigger and bully a frail old main.
By the way, learning foreign languages and encountering others learning foreign languages, I always get amazed at how fast people learn curse words. The black man was screaming son of a bitch in Korean at the old man:-) Should I laugh or cry?:-(
I don't get how people don't really see what's out there and see idiots as individual idiots but generalize in stupid ways. Also he was basing of his argument on one website when there are many black people have criticized the man acting out of cultural ignorance.
Also Koreans have started to hate Americans in particular bc of the superior attitude the American government assumes in world politics and also individual Americans acting up thinking they are better. So, white Canadians or Europeans in Korea actually humorously wear t-shirts saying "저는 미국인 아닙니다."(I'm not American.) The poster should know more about community, reputation and so on.
I agree with your points. I also didn't like the finger pointing at the black community. When a white person commits a heinous act, people don't call it a white community problem, even though it may be. In Korea Koreans are racist against blacks bc Korea has adopted racism against darker skin and imaginary constructs not bc of reputation built up in actuality. Koreans are usually nicer to white people but these days white reputation is so bad worse bc of incidents of white ppl raping Koreans.
the old man is blameless, but that doesn't put all blame on the young man.
the korean immigration system is quite responsible. they don't screen for understanding of korean language or culture AT ALL. that is a recipe for disaster.
"And try to learn their language" AMEN to this guy in the video!!! At least this black guy in the video is a very smart and logical person. I wish more ghetto blacks would have the brain of this smart young man!!!
Has anyone pointed out that "Niga" is non standard Korean? I have 4 intro books to Korean language and non of them feature "niga". Also has anyone pointed out the the use of "niga' setting off the young American is just one unconfirmed story. User deiteas was wrong to generalize.
@november1111100 I live and work in Korea. What "well-known arthours" [that teach the nonstandard "Niga" in an introductory text for the Korean language] would you recommend?
@72daystar The word "Ni" or "Naw" means you but the "ga" is a particle marker. So, "Ni-Ga" is refers to "you". Same as in English when we use stronger intonations on certain words to emphasize that word.
@72daystar niga "니가" is standard korean, but it's "반말" which means that you can only use it to younger people, so if you're studying introductory korean they didn't want you to learn it yet because it's very insulting to use this word to an older person and they didn't want you to make that mistake. Korean has 3 levels of politeness built into it's grammar so there are sometimes multiple words for one english word.
@TheAdamie Sorry "니가" is not "standard usage" at least not in its linguistic sense. It is common, but it is not the prescriptive form that seems to dominate all of the Korean language books in my possession -5. OK, that's not a lot, but my point is-- it is perfectly unremarkable that he would not be familiar with "니가" /niga/ especially since being in the Seoul area he would encounter lots of Koreans who can speak English well and never really feel the need to learn much Korean.
Many people like to generalize on blacks and that makes me sad. I always try not to do the same when talking about other races. Repeating the same mistake isn't the solution.
I take this quite serious but I find it pretty funny at the same time. If I actually call my grandmother in Korea and ask her if she knows the meaning of the word, "Nigger"... she would probably go... uhhh... "You?"... but then I would pronounce the ending more precisely and go "Ni-ga, with a longer errrrr".... I bet you a million bucks, she doesn't even know what that word is or what it means. It's an American racial slur through English.. what made this guy think it exists in Korea? lol.
@ShinLa83 but the thing is NIGGER and NEE GA is totaly different Sounding....personaly, that African America was a total ignorant human being....maybe he has/had some underlying metal health issue too who knows? but the fact is i find far to many people in general are ignorant and well, NOT infornmed about the language or culture they are going to stay and or travle in
@TheRivalConcept Ummm... read my comment carefully. You just repeated what I said. "Nigger" is an English racial term... Koreans speak Korean... that term does not exist in Korea.... that's what my comment says -_-;; what have you been readin!
@ShinLa83 ummmmmm....Ni-ga, with a longer errrrr".... Ni Ga or Neega dosent even have a ER sound Dont teach when you yourself dont know, and if by chance you are Korean, go learn your language better :) NIGGER and NIGA are totally diferein in dound and NI in NIGA is Longer than the GA but NIGGER is said as if it was said in Stocatto :)
To all of you that think all blacks are assholes and treat asians badly, I ask you to watch this video and tell me what you think of it v=riJXP_kmh-k
Even if the guy was called nigga... Blame hip hop rappers who have it in there music which is heard around the world. because they have made the -nigger-word user friendly now. They don;t have to know your name. They are only trying to imitate what they heard in music.... Thanks a lot rappers and hip hop artist. I am sure that MLK,Fredrick Douglas, Malcolm X, and other greats,are turning over in their graves.
He should have ignored it. WHYY did he have to do all that, thats embarrassing! and how did he not know that meant I ! he attacked the innocent for no reason. If i were in his position i would have ignored it.
I have a problem with this video!! Why nobody is reacting to this situation?? Everyone around is sitting there and watching!! A common problem in modern society in Korea.. "It's their problem, not mine attitude!!!"
It really makes me upset.. If this happened elsewhere in the world, I am sure people would have intervened.
When people generalize things it's usually true in most cases. I can understand you standing up for your people but you have the face the numbers. There is a large number of blacks you do act that way when they are called the N word. You have to remember there are people who are still oppress and have alot of self-hatered and anger inside them. Look at the Katrina incident compare that to recent Japan no one if not very little people are looting and rioting.
@ernesdee2o916 I am aware of the numbers also. I also know that due to home training social pressure and a lot of other reasons most black people will react that way. It's simple to compare katrina to Japan and say that Japanese people do't act that way but black people do but looking at a current situation say the london riots. is it only black people doing all that? I've seen both black and white acting like idiots there. Thats the reason why I ask people not to generalize.
@sec1productions You would have been better off not commenting on this incident or deiteas's video. Apart from anything else, you kind of missed the entire higher level point he was making about cultural *integration* and instead decided to assume generalization. In addition, from the volume of the videos which you have already put out about "race", it makes you seem overly concerned about this pointless social construct when you are clearly a far more interesting a person than that.
@utubesqueeze He stated his opinion. So I feel it's fine for me to state mine. Their are tons of vids showing white people doing wrong things. You don't see me making a vid saying how something is wrong with the majority of white people or any other race. Cause I feel an idiocy does not involve race. I saw that you agreed with deiteas video yet you say I must be too overly concerned with race. When wasn't it him who decided to turn his video focus to "Most black"?
@utubesqueeze I just cannot sit quietly hearing "Most black people" are violent and see that when other people of different skin color do the same their crimes are ignored.
On a lighter note: I'm only a beginning student of Korean. But I'm aware of there being at least 2 words that sound a lot like the English "N" word but do *not* at all have the same meaning. Two K-vloggers have funny videos that are worth viewing for a demonstration of cultural differences with word-sounds & meaning: 1) WillWhiteJr has a video, "Black in Korea Episode Extra: Questions & Answers." Check the "KKK" part-starts @ 6:25 (watch 1st) & Charlycheer 's "Noraebang" video-starts @ 14:50 .
@roxanneworld11 (re: the time stamp automatic links - go to the channels mentioned & fast forward to the actual time stamps I mention. Otherwise, if clicked on here they will probably just go to video on this page posted by sec1productions.)
I watched a few of the r/t videos from Youtubers & saw the one you're responding to. I think you characterized it well. Wouldn't call him a 'card carrying racist,' necessarily. But, omg, he definitely demonstrated racist beliefs with the generalizations. Dictionary definitions cannot include all racist behaviors & beliefs so he seems to not realize he has this tendency.
Many people tend to generalize...for generalizing is easier than thinking twice. People often act before they think...yet the best way is to think once or twice or even thrice ~ before one acts..or even speaks!!
Here from Gimmeabreakman... totally agree with what you said. It's unfortunate that his actions will reflect upon other foreigners that are there... sad reality.....
It's unfortunate that someone as young as you still feels pressed to continue to talk about "race" at all. You could call it "racialism" or the old pseudo-scientific belief that human beings are divided into distinct races. This is the reality that still persists in some quarters, and continues to force discussions like this.
Studies of human genetics suggest that modern humans evolved (in eastern Africa), in a period of great environmental stress, from an unusually small remnant population.
@sec1productions I Just subscribed so I'll keep listening and commenting. The story of human evolution is still being told, and it has to account for traits like those displayed by the hot-headed American, and the Korean offering a foreigner a seat on the bus.
I completely and totally agree with you. It was a misunderstanding that occurred between those two individuals ONLY and should not reflect or in any way depict how all blacks would behave in this circumstance. Generalizing will always, in my opinion, result in an inaccurate assumption and you know what they say about people when they assume. You make an ass of yourself. I applaud you for being so civil in this video as well.
@dancingwithcalvin See...I would question why you feel that way, but after trying to find out why for the past few minutes I've simply given up and went with the possibility that you are just a troll. There was nothing wrong with my last statement because the guy could have completely embarrassed the Youtuber he was referring to but he didn't with such dignity and I respect that. If you disagree, you disagree but don't call me an ass for that, "honey". You make yourself look far worst than that.
@CrystallyzeD I'm sorry, I didn't know you were black too. You said that You applaud him for being civil and i thought you were a white person applauding him for being a "civil" black guy. Do you know where I'm coming from? Sorry!!!
And crack cocaine. I love black people but most of them just stick with other black people.and tend to isloate and only refur to other black people better.
Black people in america are pretty violent in general! But it's funny when they get their ass kick they get stupid look on their face "like did that just happen" I got my ass handed to me! Almost very black person I no can fight! But it's sad if u watch the tv show "first 48 hours" detective show it's all black people they r prosecuting! Me an my girl watch it all the time it's sad it's all black folk being violent almost every last show! It's becuz of the porvert state of their lives. And crac
Hey bro, when you film using you ipod touch or iphone, hold it on its side instead of upright because this way it will fill up the whole screen when uploaded to youtube.
I hate reading the comments on videos like the "black guy on Korean bus" video. It's the "epic beard guy" video all over again. The comments are so venomous, and too many people start generalizing.
We all have our prejudices; that's unavoidable. But what we have here is ONE example of an idiot acting out in ONE isolated incident of extreme misunderstanding. Stop feeding your confirmation bias; stop trying to make it a race issue and get over the fact that "race" is a social construct.
I hate reading the comments on videos like the "black guy on Korean bus" video. It's the "epic beard guy" video all over again. The comments are so venomous, and too many people start generalizing.
We all have our prejudices; that's unavoidable. But what we have here is ONE example of an idiot acting out in ONE isolated incident of extreme misunderstanding. Stop feeding your confirmation bias; stop trying to make it a race issue and get over the fact that "race" is a social construct.
@NinetytoFirst If the black race from America have done more good deeds, naturally people would have generalized them differently. This idiot on the bus surely have had some idiotic buddies he hung around with who most likely are blacks as well. Generalization may not be the best answer but how people have come about to think and believe this way was led by no other than the black race themselves.
@steakopera I saw that your from South korea. Maybe I can assume your from korea? if not then I apologize. but if you are Korean think of it this way. When you hear a Japanese person saying how all koreans are dirty and steal many things from other cultures and are violent. And that even though you are not that way at all they still show discrimination towards you. How does that make you feel. Do they have a right to say that theres something wrong with korean people?
@sec1productions Well, that is not true. Japan makes false accusation all the time and it's obvious that Koreans and the whole world know it. Koreans don't pull this kind of crap when they are in foreign countries. False accusation and generalization are two different things.
@steakopera I think there are some video's on youtube that you might find very interesting then. Korean mafia in japan type of things. and the korean schools in Japan teaching their students to hate japan and support North korea. But I sense you still might ignore it and still disagree that cause of the actions of some or most people from a certain race means that all will act like that. I had a friend who was Muslim who was bullied and called a terrorist after 9/11. We're those bullies correct?
@sec1productions Those Koreans were the descendents and the political refugees from the North Korea which communism dictate their way of living. Whether it's right or wrong, they were taught with stricked and disciplinary measures since young age. They were forced to learn what honorability and loyalty are to their leader(Kim Jong Il) and they care about family values and to respect their elders. They retaliate with reasons and purposes in behind unlike the idiot on the bus.
@steakopera The problem IS NOT simply that he was black; it goes deeper than that. Even in your own example, it's much more important that he was American. The problem here is that we naturally place expectations on ourselves and on others based on "race." Genetics don't justify these generalizations, the problem is one of culture. White people in the states expect black people to act a certain way, and blacks further ostracize themselves by placing expectations on themselves and other blacks
Generalizing does have its benefits; it's like a short cut in social situations, and it often has good results. But correlation is not causality, and I would argue that it isn't fair to judge the individual nor their actions by his or her race. This idiot on the bus was an idiot who happened to be black, but his idiocy is the only thing that is relevant here. Saying he did what he did BECAUSE he was black is not only hateful, it's entirely inaccurate.
@NinetytoFirst It's pre-mature to advocate or defend whole race of people when the evidence and their actions become factual. Generalization has it's own accuracy and the pre-assumption will likely to follow.
@steakopera Of course, and I don't deny any of that. But my point is that it isn't always relevant, or that it isn't always the best (or only) explanation for one's behavior. People put far too much emphasis on race, for themselves as well as others. It's one thing to pre-assume, and another thing entirely for one to /act/ on it, without giving the other person the benefit of the doubt. And I think too few people understand the differences between "correlation" and "blanket generalizations."
@NinetytoFirst Generalization and pre-assumption don't always lead to act of violence. Generalization, this mental state is more dangerous than the actions generated from it. Actions can be dominated by the greater action but mental state(generalization) can only be won by credibility and trustworthiness. People don't take time to understand what "correlation" is, you are right but who's fault is it? in this case. The idiot went way to far even for people to consider it.
I am Mescalero Apache & Irish/Mexican, if I was there it does not matter what race the person was I would be embarrassed by it all because now some think all Americans act like this. Me I would probably stop him try to calm him down. Or tell him what an asshole he was and he should go back home and quit making Americans look like thugs.
This is a good video response, the world needs more people like you
TheAdamie 1 month ago
well said. the guy on the bus displayed inexcusable behavior. it was an individual thing, but whenever it's a black person, race becomes the issue. this is to perpetuate an IMAGE that ALL blacks are bad.
GQbum 1 month ago
I feel the way u say things, makes me feel like if you were my friend, you would have made a good one.
WreckedAsian 2 months ago
Well Said.
WreckedAsian 2 months ago
I appreciate this very much. His words are true, clear, and without ignorance. Very good sir! Jolly good show!
SariaChord0TouchWeb 2 months ago
people say he talked in FLUENT korean towards the end... WTH? no! he just said "kassaekiya" which is a swear word. Even some people here with no korean background knows how to swear in korean like that..
jinniously 2 months ago
I think the whole issue with blacks being associated with poverty and crime is a double edged sword. I mean, one could argue that they don't do enough to uplift themselves out of their current socio-economic state...On the other hand, when you're born disadvantaged and raised in a hostile environment, it's difficult to grow up and live a "straight" life. A very ambiguous issue, to say the least.
cptorangutang2 2 months ago
I agree with you 100%
Ambi1021 2 months ago
there are educated african american people and then there are just uneducated black people. the dude was obviously uneducated, probably from the 'hood'. wonder what the heck he was doing in korea in the first place. doesn't look like he was in the military... ???
purtypenny 2 months ago
Thank you!
ThePrettyPinkSungmin 2 months ago
This guy did not flip out because they used the word "niga," he obviously KNEW Korean, considering the fact he was cursing them out towards the end in fluent Korean.
iLUVphelps 2 months ago
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its not only black people who does this I've seen so many white people doing worse things in Korea... its just that stupid Asians overlook ill-deeds that is done by white people. That reeeeally irritates me.
btw// I am Korean.
MrDaniel056 3 months ago
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don't worry black people~~~~~~!!!!!!!
We KOREANS know that there are plenty of white people who are worse than you guys.
I think Koreans or Asia in general are stupid to trick by conspiracy of white people who are trying to make themselves superior by picking on blacks
MrDaniel056 3 months ago
Yeah seriously I don't think that every black person is that stupid come on now people think. This is a good video thanks for posting.
fmadiva 3 months ago
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Its the same in Chinese. You'll hear them chatting and hear 'nigga nigga' all the time but it's just used as a sentence filler and it's just like saysing 'umm' or 'ehh' Took a while to get used to when I was in China but of course Leroy has to act like a nigger and bully a frail old main.
hansupgwai 3 months ago
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By the way, learning foreign languages and encountering others learning foreign languages, I always get amazed at how fast people learn curse words. The black man was screaming son of a bitch in Korean at the old man:-) Should I laugh or cry?:-(
thirdsphere145 3 months ago
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thirdsphere145 3 months ago
I don't get how people don't really see what's out there and see idiots as individual idiots but generalize in stupid ways. Also he was basing of his argument on one website when there are many black people have criticized the man acting out of cultural ignorance.
thirdsphere145 3 months ago
Also Koreans have started to hate Americans in particular bc of the superior attitude the American government assumes in world politics and also individual Americans acting up thinking they are better. So, white Canadians or Europeans in Korea actually humorously wear t-shirts saying "저는 미국인 아닙니다."(I'm not American.) The poster should know more about community, reputation and so on.
thirdsphere145 3 months ago
I agree with your points. I also didn't like the finger pointing at the black community. When a white person commits a heinous act, people don't call it a white community problem, even though it may be. In Korea Koreans are racist against blacks bc Korea has adopted racism against darker skin and imaginary constructs not bc of reputation built up in actuality. Koreans are usually nicer to white people but these days white reputation is so bad worse bc of incidents of white ppl raping Koreans.
thirdsphere145 3 months ago
good advice at 7:44 "try not to"
jordnthoms 3 months ago
hahaha... you butchered that pronunciation:
"니가 여기 앉아"
the old man is blameless, but that doesn't put all blame on the young man.
the korean immigration system is quite responsible. they don't screen for understanding of korean language or culture AT ALL. that is a recipe for disaster.
jordnthoms 3 months ago
"And try to learn their language" AMEN to this guy in the video!!! At least this black guy in the video is a very smart and logical person. I wish more ghetto blacks would have the brain of this smart young man!!!
TwistyTies90 3 months ago
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november1111100 4 months ago
I agree with you- 'generalizing' of any race is not cool.
mezutazu1 4 months ago
Has anyone pointed out that "Niga" is non standard Korean? I have 4 intro books to Korean language and non of them feature "niga". Also has anyone pointed out the the use of "niga' setting off the young American is just one unconfirmed story. User deiteas was wrong to generalize.
72daystar 4 months ago
@72daystar go read some more books bro preferably those ISSUED in Korea by well-known arthours
november1111100 4 months ago
@november1111100 I live and work in Korea. What "well-known arthours" [that teach the nonstandard "Niga" in an introductory text for the Korean language] would you recommend?
72daystar 4 months ago
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november1111100 4 months ago
@72daystar The word "Ni" or "Naw" means you but the "ga" is a particle marker. So, "Ni-Ga" is refers to "you". Same as in English when we use stronger intonations on certain words to emphasize that word.
yang0936 3 months ago
@yang0936 I thought the particle "가" indicated the subject, and "니" is a common but non standard form of the pronoun for "you".
72daystar 3 months ago
@72daystar niga "니가" is standard korean, but it's "반말" which means that you can only use it to younger people, so if you're studying introductory korean they didn't want you to learn it yet because it's very insulting to use this word to an older person and they didn't want you to make that mistake. Korean has 3 levels of politeness built into it's grammar so there are sometimes multiple words for one english word.
TheAdamie 1 month ago
@TheAdamie Sorry "니가" is not "standard usage" at least not in its linguistic sense. It is common, but it is not the prescriptive form that seems to dominate all of the Korean language books in my possession -5. OK, that's not a lot, but my point is-- it is perfectly unremarkable that he would not be familiar with "니가" /niga/ especially since being in the Seoul area he would encounter lots of Koreans who can speak English well and never really feel the need to learn much Korean.
72daystar 1 month ago
Many people like to generalize on blacks and that makes me sad. I always try not to do the same when talking about other races. Repeating the same mistake isn't the solution.
Peace!!
aulasdejapones 4 months ago
I take this quite serious but I find it pretty funny at the same time. If I actually call my grandmother in Korea and ask her if she knows the meaning of the word, "Nigger"... she would probably go... uhhh... "You?"... but then I would pronounce the ending more precisely and go "Ni-ga, with a longer errrrr".... I bet you a million bucks, she doesn't even know what that word is or what it means. It's an American racial slur through English.. what made this guy think it exists in Korea? lol.
ShinLa83 4 months ago 13
@ShinLa83 lol. You know what. You have a good point. Seeing that comment made my day.
sec1productions 4 months ago 4
@ShinLa83
Yes. If you cut the long 'er' sound, it sounds "you" in Korean. If you say the word fast, it's the sound Chinese people make while contemplating.
easternsmile 4 months ago
@ShinLa83 but the thing is NIGGER and NEE GA is totaly different Sounding....personaly, that African America was a total ignorant human being....maybe he has/had some underlying metal health issue too who knows? but the fact is i find far to many people in general are ignorant and well, NOT infornmed about the language or culture they are going to stay and or travle in
TheRivalConcept 1 month ago
@TheRivalConcept Ummm... read my comment carefully. You just repeated what I said. "Nigger" is an English racial term... Koreans speak Korean... that term does not exist in Korea.... that's what my comment says -_-;; what have you been readin!
ShinLa83 2 weeks ago
@ShinLa83 ummmmmm....Ni-ga, with a longer errrrr".... Ni Ga or Neega dosent even have a ER sound Dont teach when you yourself dont know, and if by chance you are Korean, go learn your language better :) NIGGER and NIGA are totally diferein in dound and NI in NIGA is Longer than the GA but NIGGER is said as if it was said in Stocatto :)
TheRivalConcept 2 weeks ago
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Thank you for the translation at 0:28
starguard 4 months ago
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starguard 4 months ago
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To all of you that think all blacks are assholes and treat asians badly, I ask you to watch this video and tell me what you think of it v=riJXP_kmh-k
starguard 4 months ago
your cute :)
mizzbahamas88 4 months ago
i heart that in japan black guys are super popular in japan?
100RAmen 4 months ago
Even if the guy was called nigga... Blame hip hop rappers who have it in there music which is heard around the world. because they have made the -nigger-word user friendly now. They don;t have to know your name. They are only trying to imitate what they heard in music.... Thanks a lot rappers and hip hop artist. I am sure that MLK,Fredrick Douglas, Malcolm X, and other greats,are turning over in their graves.
98tokk 4 months ago
I feel like alot of people WANT to see black people behaving like this, so they can say negative things.
ikimikiss2 4 months ago
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veemon 4 months ago
He should have ignored it. WHYY did he have to do all that, thats embarrassing! and how did he not know that meant I ! he attacked the innocent for no reason. If i were in his position i would have ignored it.
ikimikiss2 4 months ago
There are tons of youtube vids with Asians fighting each other in buses but no one goes calling all Asians violent. Double standard there.
MrKoize 5 months ago
I have a problem with this video!! Why nobody is reacting to this situation?? Everyone around is sitting there and watching!! A common problem in modern society in Korea.. "It's their problem, not mine attitude!!!"
It really makes me upset.. If this happened elsewhere in the world, I am sure people would have intervened.
joaheyo 5 months ago
When people generalize things it's usually true in most cases. I can understand you standing up for your people but you have the face the numbers. There is a large number of blacks you do act that way when they are called the N word. You have to remember there are people who are still oppress and have alot of self-hatered and anger inside them. Look at the Katrina incident compare that to recent Japan no one if not very little people are looting and rioting.
ernesdee2o916 5 months ago
@ernesdee2o916 I am aware of the numbers also. I also know that due to home training social pressure and a lot of other reasons most black people will react that way. It's simple to compare katrina to Japan and say that Japanese people do't act that way but black people do but looking at a current situation say the london riots. is it only black people doing all that? I've seen both black and white acting like idiots there. Thats the reason why I ask people not to generalize.
sec1productions 5 months ago
@sec1productions You would have been better off not commenting on this incident or deiteas's video. Apart from anything else, you kind of missed the entire higher level point he was making about cultural *integration* and instead decided to assume generalization. In addition, from the volume of the videos which you have already put out about "race", it makes you seem overly concerned about this pointless social construct when you are clearly a far more interesting a person than that.
utubesqueeze 5 months ago
@utubesqueeze He stated his opinion. So I feel it's fine for me to state mine. Their are tons of vids showing white people doing wrong things. You don't see me making a vid saying how something is wrong with the majority of white people or any other race. Cause I feel an idiocy does not involve race. I saw that you agreed with deiteas video yet you say I must be too overly concerned with race. When wasn't it him who decided to turn his video focus to "Most black"?
sec1productions 5 months ago
@utubesqueeze I just cannot sit quietly hearing "Most black people" are violent and see that when other people of different skin color do the same their crimes are ignored.
sec1productions 5 months ago
On a lighter note: I'm only a beginning student of Korean. But I'm aware of there being at least 2 words that sound a lot like the English "N" word but do *not* at all have the same meaning. Two K-vloggers have funny videos that are worth viewing for a demonstration of cultural differences with word-sounds & meaning: 1) WillWhiteJr has a video, "Black in Korea Episode Extra: Questions & Answers." Check the "KKK" part-starts @ 6:25 (watch 1st) & Charlycheer 's "Noraebang" video-starts @ 14:50 .
roxanneworld11 5 months ago
@roxanneworld11 (re: the time stamp automatic links - go to the channels mentioned & fast forward to the actual time stamps I mention. Otherwise, if clicked on here they will probably just go to video on this page posted by sec1productions.)
roxanneworld11 5 months ago
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I watched a few of the r/t videos from Youtubers & saw the one you're responding to. I think you characterized it well. Wouldn't call him a 'card carrying racist,' necessarily. But, omg, he definitely demonstrated racist beliefs with the generalizations. Dictionary definitions cannot include all racist behaviors & beliefs so he seems to not realize he has this tendency.
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roxanneworld11 5 months ago
Thank you
thisiscommentary 5 months ago
Insightful and honest.
Well done.
Many people tend to generalize...for generalizing is easier than thinking twice. People often act before they think...yet the best way is to think once or twice or even thrice ~ before one acts..or even speaks!!
So sayeth the Old Youth.
Oldenyouth 5 months ago
Here from Gimmeabreakman... totally agree with what you said. It's unfortunate that his actions will reflect upon other foreigners that are there... sad reality.....
LaJYankee 5 months ago
It's unfortunate that someone as young as you still feels pressed to continue to talk about "race" at all. You could call it "racialism" or the old pseudo-scientific belief that human beings are divided into distinct races. This is the reality that still persists in some quarters, and continues to force discussions like this.
Studies of human genetics suggest that modern humans evolved (in eastern Africa), in a period of great environmental stress, from an unusually small remnant population.
forcecarrier 5 months ago 4
@forcecarrier You and me must talk. lol I don't find many people who know that so i think we'd have a lot to discuss.
sec1productions 5 months ago
@sec1productions I Just subscribed so I'll keep listening and commenting. The story of human evolution is still being told, and it has to account for traits like those displayed by the hot-headed American, and the Korean offering a foreigner a seat on the bus.
forcecarrier 5 months ago
@forcecarrier That is so interesting. I haven't really thought of it like that, but I guess it is true.
similik101 2 months ago
I completely and totally agree with you. It was a misunderstanding that occurred between those two individuals ONLY and should not reflect or in any way depict how all blacks would behave in this circumstance. Generalizing will always, in my opinion, result in an inaccurate assumption and you know what they say about people when they assume. You make an ass of yourself. I applaud you for being so civil in this video as well.
CrystallyzeD 5 months ago
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" I applaud you for being so civil in this video as well."
I think you just made an ass out of yourself right there honey.
dancingwithcalvin 5 months ago
@dancingwithcalvin See...I would question why you feel that way, but after trying to find out why for the past few minutes I've simply given up and went with the possibility that you are just a troll. There was nothing wrong with my last statement because the guy could have completely embarrassed the Youtuber he was referring to but he didn't with such dignity and I respect that. If you disagree, you disagree but don't call me an ass for that, "honey". You make yourself look far worst than that.
CrystallyzeD 5 months ago
@CrystallyzeD I'm sorry, I didn't know you were black too. You said that You applaud him for being civil and i thought you were a white person applauding him for being a "civil" black guy. Do you know where I'm coming from? Sorry!!!
dancingwithcalvin 5 months ago
@dancingwithcalvin Yes I do now. It's fine.
CrystallyzeD 5 months ago
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LOVE YOUR CHANNEL. I subscribed.
dancingwithcalvin 5 months ago
@dancingwithcalvin Oh thank you :) I only vlog on this one now though but I have a new one called TheLovelyify. Check it out!
CrystallyzeD 5 months ago
And crack cocaine. I love black people but most of them just stick with other black people.and tend to isloate and only refur to other black people better.
Hajime598 5 months ago
Black people in america are pretty violent in general! But it's funny when they get their ass kick they get stupid look on their face "like did that just happen" I got my ass handed to me! Almost very black person I no can fight! But it's sad if u watch the tv show "first 48 hours" detective show it's all black people they r prosecuting! Me an my girl watch it all the time it's sad it's all black folk being violent almost every last show! It's becuz of the porvert state of their lives. And crac
Hajime598 5 months ago
Hey bro, when you film using you ipod touch or iphone, hold it on its side instead of upright because this way it will fill up the whole screen when uploaded to youtube.
ThomasAnthonyBowman 5 months ago
@ThomasAnthonyBowman Thanks for the advice! I was so in a rush to get this out I never even thought about it. lol.
sec1productions 5 months ago
Nice videos, by the way. I just discovered your channel recently, and I'm really enjoying the stuff you put out.
NinetytoFirst 5 months ago
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I hate reading the comments on videos like the "black guy on Korean bus" video. It's the "epic beard guy" video all over again. The comments are so venomous, and too many people start generalizing.
We all have our prejudices; that's unavoidable. But what we have here is ONE example of an idiot acting out in ONE isolated incident of extreme misunderstanding. Stop feeding your confirmation bias; stop trying to make it a race issue and get over the fact that "race" is a social construct.
NinetytoFirst 5 months ago
I hate reading the comments on videos like the "black guy on Korean bus" video. It's the "epic beard guy" video all over again. The comments are so venomous, and too many people start generalizing.
We all have our prejudices; that's unavoidable. But what we have here is ONE example of an idiot acting out in ONE isolated incident of extreme misunderstanding. Stop feeding your confirmation bias; stop trying to make it a race issue and get over the fact that "race" is a social construct.
NinetytoFirst 5 months ago 12
@NinetytoFirst If the black race from America have done more good deeds, naturally people would have generalized them differently. This idiot on the bus surely have had some idiotic buddies he hung around with who most likely are blacks as well. Generalization may not be the best answer but how people have come about to think and believe this way was led by no other than the black race themselves.
steakopera 5 months ago
@steakopera I saw that your from South korea. Maybe I can assume your from korea? if not then I apologize. but if you are Korean think of it this way. When you hear a Japanese person saying how all koreans are dirty and steal many things from other cultures and are violent. And that even though you are not that way at all they still show discrimination towards you. How does that make you feel. Do they have a right to say that theres something wrong with korean people?
sec1productions 5 months ago
@sec1productions Well, that is not true. Japan makes false accusation all the time and it's obvious that Koreans and the whole world know it. Koreans don't pull this kind of crap when they are in foreign countries. False accusation and generalization are two different things.
steakopera 5 months ago
@steakopera I think there are some video's on youtube that you might find very interesting then. Korean mafia in japan type of things. and the korean schools in Japan teaching their students to hate japan and support North korea. But I sense you still might ignore it and still disagree that cause of the actions of some or most people from a certain race means that all will act like that. I had a friend who was Muslim who was bullied and called a terrorist after 9/11. We're those bullies correct?
sec1productions 4 months ago
@sec1productions Those Koreans were the descendents and the political refugees from the North Korea which communism dictate their way of living. Whether it's right or wrong, they were taught with stricked and disciplinary measures since young age. They were forced to learn what honorability and loyalty are to their leader(Kim Jong Il) and they care about family values and to respect their elders. They retaliate with reasons and purposes in behind unlike the idiot on the bus.
steakopera 4 months ago
@sec1productions Generalization don't always lead to action.
steakopera 4 months ago
@steakopera The problem IS NOT simply that he was black; it goes deeper than that. Even in your own example, it's much more important that he was American. The problem here is that we naturally place expectations on ourselves and on others based on "race." Genetics don't justify these generalizations, the problem is one of culture. White people in the states expect black people to act a certain way, and blacks further ostracize themselves by placing expectations on themselves and other blacks
NinetytoFirst 5 months ago
Generalizing does have its benefits; it's like a short cut in social situations, and it often has good results. But correlation is not causality, and I would argue that it isn't fair to judge the individual nor their actions by his or her race. This idiot on the bus was an idiot who happened to be black, but his idiocy is the only thing that is relevant here. Saying he did what he did BECAUSE he was black is not only hateful, it's entirely inaccurate.
NinetytoFirst 5 months ago
@NinetytoFirst It's pre-mature to advocate or defend whole race of people when the evidence and their actions become factual. Generalization has it's own accuracy and the pre-assumption will likely to follow.
steakopera 4 months ago
@steakopera Of course, and I don't deny any of that. But my point is that it isn't always relevant, or that it isn't always the best (or only) explanation for one's behavior. People put far too much emphasis on race, for themselves as well as others. It's one thing to pre-assume, and another thing entirely for one to /act/ on it, without giving the other person the benefit of the doubt. And I think too few people understand the differences between "correlation" and "blanket generalizations."
NinetytoFirst 4 months ago
@NinetytoFirst Generalization and pre-assumption don't always lead to act of violence. Generalization, this mental state is more dangerous than the actions generated from it. Actions can be dominated by the greater action but mental state(generalization) can only be won by credibility and trustworthiness. People don't take time to understand what "correlation" is, you are right but who's fault is it? in this case. The idiot went way to far even for people to consider it.
steakopera 4 months ago
I am Mescalero Apache & Irish/Mexican, if I was there it does not matter what race the person was I would be embarrassed by it all because now some think all Americans act like this. Me I would probably stop him try to calm him down. Or tell him what an asshole he was and he should go back home and quit making Americans look like thugs.
romanobritish 5 months ago
Well said. By the way, did you get your glasses from Uniqlo?
mo99 5 months ago
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iniqlo sells glasses now?
Gimmeaflakeman 5 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman Not real glasses, but frames with clear lenses. I bought a pair that look exactly like Kai's in Uniqlo Shibuya.
mo99 5 months ago
@mo99 Hi there. I got them from iworks? I actually forgot the name of the store but yeah their prescription. lol.
sec1productions 5 months ago
Chris Rock said it best, there are blacks and there are nigge rs. That guy on the bus was clearly a nigge r. I am saying this as a black guy.
Kysen10 5 months ago
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Good thoughts, dude. Totally agreed. 7:20 is the best part, though.
KramInJapan 5 months ago
@KramInJapan LOL! I just noticed I burped there. lol.
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KramInJapan 5 months ago
nice. I think im your 600th subscriber^^
SiOTheCaveman 5 months ago