I also didn’t expect to be overcome with compassion for the mothers and fathers who were arriving one after the other and were convinced that killing their child was their only choice. I could tangibly sense the despair and the hopelessness they felt. I remember it so well.
As I pulled into a parking spot, I sat in the car for a minute and closed my eyes. I wanted to pray that I wouldn’t fall apart; but before I could utter a word, a movie began playing in my head. I could see that hurting, desperate 23-year-old girl who pulled into this very same parking spot in 2000. And suddenly I remembered it all:
January 26, 2012 (KellyClinger) - This morning I returned to the clinic where I had my abortions 12 years ago to pray for and plead with moms not to make the decision I made so many years ago.
Note: Kelly Clinger, a performer and former backup singer for the pop star Britney Spears, had two abortions when she was in her early twenties. She blogs about her pro-life activities here.
Another great question to all this imbeciles is, "How many unwanted children have you adopted?". They seem to think life is precious but only while their forcing a woman to carry a fetus to term that she doesn't want. Then what? Are they there to swoop in and give this unwanted child a fabulous life? Even if it's not the same race as them, or born addicted to drugs, or has AIDS, or has a terminal disease, or is handicapped or deformed?
@krunk1980 You're just a bigot,,and this upload is VERY heavily edited..
Btw if you were publicly protesting against whaling would you have a carefully thought out answer if suddenly asked what penalty should whale killers get if prosecuted? And if you didn't would that make your protest any less sincere?
@UnplannedPregnancy Uh, yes I would. And how do you know it's heavily edited? Where's you're proof? And who am I bigoted toward? Idiots? Ok guilty.I'm not questioning these retards sincerity, just their brain function. If you think abortion is wrong but the punishment is between the woman and "god" then you're pro-choice. For the MILLIONTH time. Pro-choice doesn't mean "pro-abortion". Pro-choice advocates like Planned Parenthood actually try to keep abortion rare. These morons do nothing.
@krunk1980 "Planned Parenthood actually try to keep abortion rare"
Really"?
Yet they are the worlds LARGEST abortionists and even put pressure on prolife countries like Ireland to provide abortions....Heck you really are a few fries short of a happy meal....LMAO.
@UnplannedPregnancy No one's talking about wrong. They're talking about legal. You just lied about how this was heavily edited, which is wrong, but I don't think all lying should be illegal. Also making something illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. In fact there's no evidence that it deters people in the slightest. It may even INCREASE abortions. These anti-abortionists true motivation isn't protecting life, it's judging. They should spend their time handing out condoms.
@AlwaysChooseLife Even God is for abortion- Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.- Hosea 13:16 and if u really want to see a bizarre endorsement of abortion read Numbers 5:11-21
@jazz0685 *I* am twisting scripture?!? PUH-LEAZE!!! I gave you an exact verbatim verse with no editorializing referring explicitly to killing the unborn. The passage u gave has nothing to do with the unborn.Check out 2 Kings 15:16 f you want more. And there's even more where that came from.
@krunk1980 Yes, you are twisting scripture. I'm sure you can find plenty to accuse God of...after all, the Devil himself used scripture to tempt Christ.
God say...I set before you life and death. Choose life, and live.
@jazz0685 DAMN! You are stupid. If you can use scripture to do the devil's work then why shouldn't I think that's what you're doing? You've already quoted that verse and ur being a liar by acting like it pertains to abortion. Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.- still want me to teach u more about ur own religion u dolt?
@krunk1980 You can know I'm not doing the devil's work because I choose life..as God says, I set before you life and death...choose life and live...so, I choose life. I know you are doing the devil's work because you choose death...and have no life.
@jazz0685 Wow! You are so brainwashed you can't even speak except to repeat the same thing over and over that doesn't pertain to this AT ALL. Enjoy you "life" living in a bubble of hypocrisy and nonsense. I'm REALLY choosing life. A life of reason and discovery and questioning. So long sucker.
@krunk1980 just in case you didn't realise (but I'm sure you did cause you're smart) proliealaska, unplannedpregnancy, abobokilsbabies, mrsmcparlin1 are all the same pro lie troll trying to make ppl think they are talking to many pro liars. Jazz is his submissive puppet, also operates proliecalifornia and many other proliestates channels
@MrsTardbuster1 Ok first of all I LOVE UR SN!! No, I didn't realize it was the same troll. They're all christ-bots regurgitating the same crap so they're indistinguishable anyway. Good to know it's one liar. Deception is lying but these buffoons don't think the rules of the religion they try to cram down our throats, apply to them. I write my comments and responses for readers and not necessarily for the braindead I'm responding to.
@azz0: Jesus was just a Jewish man. There are no "scriptures" about the man. Just stories written by men, assembled by a manipulative organization of religion for an emperor to rule over an empire, and then passed off as a new Bible to control men and make them live as the emperor wanted.
@UnplannedPregnancy Part of them. You can't hand out the pill. And what's your solution for what to do with 1.3 million unwanted kids a year? How many disabled, sick, of another race, born addicted to drugs, mentally ill, retarded, emotionally disturbed kids have YOU adopted?
@AbortionRegrets HAHA! This vid is the gift that keeps on givin'! As if the dullards in the vid weren't enough, we're treated to the buffoonery of the comments. With every post the anti-abortionists make they actually reinforce the logic of being pro-choice. Let's just say what passes as zinger for you is true.That I am upset that my adoptive parents didn't work out. Doesn't it make make sense that never being born is preferable to a miserable life?
@UnplannedPregnancy and it's not "inexplicable" why people can't locate condoms. You must not be familiar with how sex works. It's your right wing retard buddies that object to condoms in schools and other places for teenagers to obtain. If they're not on you in the throws of passion it's pretty difficult to stop what you're doing and run out and get some.
The people in this video demonstrate that they don't even believe the premises most often used in arguing against abortion rights. If they actually thought abortion was "murder," like any killing that would commonly be deemed as such, they would want the perpetrators punished exactly the same. but they don't, and that shows that not even they consider abortion to be murder. Their stances are fraudulent.
The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
The people in this video demonstrate that they don't even believe the premises most often used in arguing against abortion rights. If they actually thought abortion was "murder," like any killing that would commonly be deemed as such, they would want the perpetrators punished exactly the same. but they don't, and that shows that not even they consider abortion to be murder. Their stances are fraudulent.
"If I am failing as you claim then prove me wrong"
LMAO...we BOTH KNOW that with regards your ridiculous claim that abortion does not kill anything that there is NOTHING you would ever accept to convince you of the truth..Though I suspect this is all just a perverse game to you and that you know perfectly well that a unique new human life begins at conception and that it does not somehow magically become alive when it reaches the outside...Not even your manipulated Torah text supports that!
"If I am failing as you claim then prove me wrong"
LMAO...we BOTH KNOW that with regards your ridiculous claim that abortion does not kill anything that there is NOTHING you would ever accept to convince you of the truth..Though I suspect this is all just a perverse game to you and that you know perfectly well that a unique new human life begins at conception and that it does not somehow magically become alive when it reaches the outside...Not even your manipulated Torah text supports that!
@ProlifeAlaska I question your stats but the number of deaths would go up if abortion wasn't safe and legal. You're just like the idiots in this vid. Think of consequences and have some perspective besides just regurgitating what your preacher said. Making something illegal doesn't mean it will stop people. In fact it can have the opposite effect. That's why there's more drug use in the US were it's illegal than Holland were it is legal.
Those stats posted by prolifealaska are gathered by the Guttmacher Institute founded by Alan Guttmacher ..a former director of Planned Parenthood..the worlds LARGEST abortionists..
Clearly to anyone who has not been brainwashed an abortion KILLS a UNIQUE NEW HUMAN BEING...Such a pity that the "poorchoice" brigade need to DISHONESTLY make shit up instead of dealing only with facts.
Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
There you go again stating nonsense as though it is a matter of fact and FAILING to make clear it is just your CONTRIVED religious interpretation of some words in the Torah...
@WeedaPeople Well I don't know about AKB but I have never had any other account since 2006 and I am here ready to defend the silent victim of abortion.
@WeedaPeople I've given you medical evidence before and you rejected it from medical terminology, if it helps clear your conscience and in some way you still feel you have a soul if there was ever one to begin with, then please just stick to your beliefs of your Jewish faith, you can't have it both ways. A double minded man is wicked in all his ways. Your not alive, and not killing stance is so far removed which is why most will never take you seriously.
@spea: Your medical evidence is weak. It proves nothing. This is not ablut clering my conscience, and I am sticking with my beliefs. I am not having anything more than one way. You just can not understand that, and that is a failure on your part, not mine.
There you go again stating nonsense as though it is a matter of fact and FAILING to make clear it is just your CONTRIVED interpretation of some words cherry picked from the Torah...
I decided to rob a bank today. I knew it was a bad decision, and that I MIGHT get caught. Well sure enough I did. But it wasn't my fault. I didn't PLAN on getting caught. I am too young to spend the rest of my life under this oppression called "A Prison" so I am going by Planned Criminalhood to undo this problem. There problem solved all better now. I only killed somebody that had a future in the process of my mistake but I didn't consider them human.
@freespeachrulez you might also have killed "somebody" that would have as well worsen your problem and society's problems. It might have been a good idea... and that "somebody" COULD have a future but maybe not. Most of the time, gawd does the job for you without you knowing it.
@ryddelwearsahat You can only reasonably use the term "save your life" if it is being saved from probable death..But I rather think you use it very loosely and histrionically to mean a multitude of things that are obviously INCOMPARABLE to death....and actually quite trivial by comparison..
@ryddelwearsahat Well the thought process is the same for any irrational behavior. I have heard sex and getting pregnant compared to playing with a loaded gun. If you play with a loaded gun and you get shot don't act surprised, of course it is going to change your life. Just like having unprotected sex might result in pregnancy.. there is that chance and it too will change your life. But abortion removes the consequences of behavior to cover up one bad decision with another.
@ryddelwearsahat I have about 5 years of abortion education under my belt from some of the greatest minds on the subject. But when I try to talk sense sometimes you have to dumb down the conversation. Obviously you didn't get it so maybe I should dumb it down some more. And if you want a history lesson about abortion and the holocaust look up planned parenthoods Margaret Sanger and the Nazi mentality she had.
@WeedaPeople If abortion does not kill then that abortion doctor would be fired and then she would have the baby! But last time I checked when they pull out the fetus it usually has no arms or head.. I guess then that would be alive? Ohhhhhh thats right your into this its not alive unless it has a soul.. Well cancer has no soul either but they have to go in and kill the cancer cells, and last time I checked cancer cells do not have a beating heart. Your so foolish soul boy.
@WeedaPeople So what about a partial birth abortion is it half alive or half dead? Does he or she only have half a soul at that point? You make birth sound like a peek-a-boo game of "Lets play who has a soul" Stop playing God or advocating the right of people to play God. If a woman gets pregnant unless some other natural circumstance happens, still born, complications, or a natural termination happens then that is natural, there is nothing natural about abortion.
@WeedaPeople Answer the question. If that form of abortion is wrong you walk a thin line about all other forms of abortion because once again it is playing God and us deciding like it has been all along when it is right or wrong. So once again I will ask do you believe a partially aborted baby is half alive or have dead when it's feet are kicking out of the woman? At that point does he or she have half a soul or not? Pull out the head and find out..then push the head back in then what?
@spea: I did answer the question. Birth is birth, and with birth comes life. I do not know the whole process on how it is done, but if the fetus is disconnected from the woman and it takes a breath, it is alive. If it is not, then there is no real birthing process and there is no issue.
I also see no need to do this procedure either way.
He posted it to blow his own trumpet and get sympathy....but it was a FAIL as he was TOTALLY UNABLE to back it up....just like EVERYTHING ELSE he posts....LMAO!
@azz0: I was asked if I had taken "meds", and I answered truthfully, because I do take meds as a disabled combat vet. Not for any issues that were implied by the person asking.
Once again, all you people wish to do is personally attack anyone who you can not defeat any other way. Now you want to know more so you can craft some new attack and I do not owe you any further explanation.
I answered a personal attack with an honest answer and that is the end of it.
But weedy we were IMPRESSED to hear that you had actually fought for your country and sustained an injury as a consequence..We were begining to see you n a whole new light and then..POW..you REFUSE to tell us ANYTHING about it so we no longer know if you were even being truthful..... :(
@WeedaPeople Where did I personally attack you? I asked you a respectful question...I am genuinely interested to know how you became disabled and where you served? I greatly admire veterans..if you volunteered the information about it, then why are you defensive about inquiries made about your service? I would like to know...
Which conflict were you involved in and what is the injury you sustained?
@azz0: I respectfully decline to answer. I am not defensive about my service or the service connected disability. It is just information you do not need to know.
Let it go. Just like your futile abortion fight. Let it go.
@WeedaPeople I respectfully refuse your "decline," as you posted your comment about being a disabled veteran to a public forum, ie, this board. It is information you obviously considered "relevant" to this conversation..or are you playing games and only trying to evoke sympathy? If you refuse to answer, you lose credibility re that issue..as for the abortion issue and when life begins, you've long lost credibility there.
Where did you serve, and what injury did you sustain?
@WeedaPeople Aww come on weedy we were not born yesterday...You LIED about being a "wounded war vet" didn't you? You're so funny and soooooo predictable! LMAO..
@MrsMcParlin1 Yes, he lied alright..."wounded war vet"..hahaha! What a lamo attempt at gaining respect..it only made him lose what little he may have had..
@jazz0685 You two dud bulltits have been criticising people for not supporting combat soldiers' often times brutal behaviour, and are now attacking someone who let slip he does take meds for injury, as a war vet. YOU must take the cake for slime, surely?
While Weeda has an obvious blind spot where old superstitious English conflicts with modern English terms, facts and meanings, the rest of his prochoice stance is cogent and outsmarts goons like you with never a metaphorical leg to stand on.
@azz0: It was no attempt to get respect from you disrespectful people. I never expect to get your respect, because you do not repect anything or anyone.
I have never lied, and you have no reason to believe I have. This is exactly why I do not give you information.
I am one of the very few who deserve respect here, since I am one of the very few who has always been honest, but all that gets me is more personal attacks.
@rsMc: I never lied about anything. I get a direct deposit from the VA every month (On the 1st of the month) for a service connected disability. I used to get a check, but they recently stopped issuing checks and now demand direct deposit. And they just increased the amount (Only someone who is disabled and has a certified disability through the VA knows that it is on the 1st, that they only do direct deposit now, and that they just increased the amount).
@WeedaPeople Well you should care because your reputation is on the line..you offered and now you don't want to say..it's your fault, not mine.
You explained nothing. Did you serve America, or Israel? Most likely neither one.
Since you refuse to explain your claim to be a disabled vet...a claim you volunteered here and that no one dragged or tricked out of you...then it is too clear that you are only playing games and lying about the entire thing to evoke sympathy and respect.
@jazz0685 Really, Marynojizz? You and your pathetic twin of smarm Simon, ex of Pro-lie Inc. are now attempting to besmirch the name of a self stated war vet because YOU couple of cowards perceive his statement of circumstance gives him credibility, no one else, he has not pushed his service as a reason to convince anyone to believe anything. I can hardly believe your galling superciliousness based on your presupposition that anybody with different values cannot be taken seriously.
@WeedaPeople No wuckas, I call it as I see it, and those two juvenile, emotional, nasty bits o' work are no friends of humanity, reason or logic, at all.
It doesn't let you off the hook though Weeda, we can believe what we like, but we still have to live in the present..
@alin: I did not expect that you now agree with me on all things, but it is nice to see you can distinguish between adult conversation and childishness. I have a new found respect for you, even though you are wrong about other things. : )
@azz0: My reputation is not on the line. You have nothing on me...and that is on purpose. I do not give you any more information that I want you to have.
I am not asking for sympathy...and people like you do not respect anything...including my privacy. I have explained all you need to know, and I owe you no further explanations.
@WeedaPeople I"m not attacking you though. I told you already I was genuinely interested. You hold out a carrot and then take it back and blame me and others if we are interested in the details. If you didn't want anyone to ask you about it, why did you post about it in the first place?
@azz0: It was not a carrot, and you do not need any details. I told you why I posted it. I was asked if I took medications and I explained that I did. I also explained that the meds were not were implied. I answered a question honestly. The rest is you being intrusive and trying to pick at something to see if you can open it up and make it something it is not.
@rsMc: I have been to war, and I have a service connected disability.
I do not know why this matters to you, but it is true, I owe you no further explanation, and no matter what I say, you are going to say that somehow I have lied, when I have not.
Because you are dishonest, you expect everyone else to be also, and not everyone is like you.
Abortion does not take life...so you can be pro-life and pro-abortion at the same time.
You sound like a battleaxe whose husband came home 15 minutes late for dinner. Why the interrogation, LOL dont you know, online everybody is rich, beautiful and young?
Hell, if the guy votes pro choice, thats good enough for me. Elections are about numbers. He doesnt have to prove anything to me. Why does he have to justify himself to you, who the hell are you ?
@azz0: I am for life where life exists. I am pro-abortion because I think that no unwanted children should ever be born. Their souls should be allowed to go where they are wanted and will not be abused.
@Hexl: It is all about attacking people personally if they can not attack them any other way.
This is why abortion will never be made illegal again. They have nothing of substance to fight with. They instead attack the person on whatever they think they can.
@WeedaPeople "They have nothing of substance to fight with"
LOLOLOLOLOL That is sooo funny weedy...what with you ONLY having your CONTRIVED interpretations of a few cherry picked words from the Torah and NOTHING else...not even your alleged war wound can help you now..poor poor weedy.
My God tells me you are a FAKE and you can not prove me wrong...so it must be true! LMAO
@azz0: This is yet another example of you and your anti-abort friends trying to back me into some imaginary corner and where the truth easily explains the situation, and makes you look silly for the attempt.
When are you just going to accept that abortion is legal, people have different beliefs than you, you can not prove your beliefs are any better or more viable, and finally move on with your lives?
@WeedaPeople "it is not important to the discussion of..blah blah"
But it WAS "important enough" for you to voluntarily mention..WITHOUT being asked..that you are allegedly a "disabled veteran on a disability pension"....
LMAO..But you have NO LOGIC so how could you ever defeat is...bet you can't even prove what logic is? Lets face it weedy all you have ever managed to do is claim a disability allowance!
The people in this video demonstrate that they don't even believe the premises most often used in arguing against abortion rights. If they actually thought abortion was "murder," like any killing that would commonly be deemed as such, they would want the perpetrators punished exactly the same. but they don't, and that shows that not even they consider abortion to be murder. Their stances are fraudulent.
Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
"YOU want homosexuals to (eg) be able to marry people of the SAME gender..ie something that is NOT legal for heterosexuals." HAHAHAHAHA another GEM from TamponTicklesBabies definitely BUSTED as a tard!
"YOU want homosexuals to (eg) be able to marry people of the SAME gender..ie something that is NOT legal for heterosexuals." HAHAHAHAHA another GEM from TamponTicklesBabies definitely BUSTED as a tard!
Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
The clinic this took place in front of (which btw is not in Libertyville) is now closed due to violations and harmful conditions for women. It hadn't been inspected for years.
Hey Lee, where is your video on that? Or maybe you're not really that interested in women's health. Just the legal right for you to coerce the ones you get pregnant to get abortions. From this video it's obvious *you* think the woman is to be blamed and punished, you keep pushing the point.
@Minxcomix does anybody want harmful clinics for women? Does anybody want to insist a female give birth to a child she does not want?
Are these women and one silly male protesting that they know best for others in a situation they are not in? Is it all because they think they act for an all powerful ghost or a pathetic do nothing at all ghost and how would they know?
If one thinks there is an anti social crime, and there should be no punishment, is that not an illogical point exposed?
@AbortionKillsBabies Thank you Simon - if YOU think that was well said, I know I dont have to worry about a factually, logically contradictory reply from that poster. Half baked nincompoops stick together noticeably and unless Minxcomix's god has suddenly poofed real and powerful.... nope, then you and she have everything in common but nothing in common with reality. (though I suspect a grain of truth may be infiltrating your big.... noddle by now. Always keep an open mind, my Dad always says)
The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
@ambrocal Because 1/3 of American women have abortions in their lifetime and they wouldn't want to throw such a large portion of the population in jail. I guess being a slutty mc whore bag is punishment enough.
@ambrocal I had a hard time finding this comment but I get it, sarcasm doesn't translate well textually. I had a youtube stalker briefly but all he did was tell me that rape culture is a myth and how equal American society already is.
The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
If one hurls that abobo is the most horrible despicable crime against the most vulnerable innocent human being and has nothing against the "murderer", it would surely tell me that they don't even believe in their own crapaganda (or they hate those 'fluffy lickle babies').
And I'm sure Pro-Abortion people are all so very well informed as to what happens. There are uninformed people on both sides.
Your argument is moot. Not all illegal activity is punished implicitly. Nor is all illegal activity punished by jail. Furthermore, abortion is legal. But if you kill a woman who is pregnant, you are charged with double homicide or double murder. That is a double standard that even the ignorant can see clearly. Perhaps they are ignorant, but the law is contradictory.
Today, I returned to the abortion clinic where I aborted my babies 12 years ago
BY KELLY CLINGER
Wed Jan 25, 2012 21:31 ESTComments
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jazz0685 6 hours ago
I also didn’t expect to be overcome with compassion for the mothers and fathers who were arriving one after the other and were convinced that killing their child was their only choice. I could tangibly sense the despair and the hopelessness they felt. I remember it so well.
jazz0685 6 hours ago
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Every room in that building.
The faces of the nurses.
The pictures of angel’s wings on the ceiling.
I remembered tripping on my way to the car because I was drugged and crying uncontrollably.
I even remembered the abortionist’s hands.
Perhaps I was being naïve, but I wasn’t prepared for the flood of emotions that came.
jazz0685 6 hours ago
As I pulled into a parking spot, I sat in the car for a minute and closed my eyes. I wanted to pray that I wouldn’t fall apart; but before I could utter a word, a movie began playing in my head. I could see that hurting, desperate 23-year-old girl who pulled into this very same parking spot in 2000. And suddenly I remembered it all:
jazz0685 6 hours ago
January 26, 2012 (KellyClinger) - This morning I returned to the clinic where I had my abortions 12 years ago to pray for and plead with moms not to make the decision I made so many years ago.
ProlifeCalifornia 6 hours ago
Note: Kelly Clinger, a performer and former backup singer for the pop star Britney Spears, had two abortions when she was in her early twenties. She blogs about her pro-life activities here.
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ProlifeCalifornia 6 hours ago
Today, I returned to the abortion clinic where I aborted my babies 12 years ago
BY KELLY CLINGER
Wed Jan 25, 2012 21:31 EST
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Another great question to all this imbeciles is, "How many unwanted children have you adopted?". They seem to think life is precious but only while their forcing a woman to carry a fetus to term that she doesn't want. Then what? Are they there to swoop in and give this unwanted child a fabulous life? Even if it's not the same race as them, or born addicted to drugs, or has AIDS, or has a terminal disease, or is handicapped or deformed?
krunk1980 20 hours ago
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@krunk1980 "great question to all this imbeciles.."
It should be; " all **these**" imbeciles....any imbecile knows that!
AbortionKillsBabies 20 hours ago
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Typical rightwing christards, never thinking things thru to their logical conclusion.
krunk1980 21 hours ago
@krunk1980 You're just a bigot,,and this upload is VERY heavily edited..
Btw if you were publicly protesting against whaling would you have a carefully thought out answer if suddenly asked what penalty should whale killers get if prosecuted? And if you didn't would that make your protest any less sincere?
UnplannedPregnancy 21 hours ago
@UnplannedPregnancy Uh, yes I would. And how do you know it's heavily edited? Where's you're proof? And who am I bigoted toward? Idiots? Ok guilty.I'm not questioning these retards sincerity, just their brain function. If you think abortion is wrong but the punishment is between the woman and "god" then you're pro-choice. For the MILLIONTH time. Pro-choice doesn't mean "pro-abortion". Pro-choice advocates like Planned Parenthood actually try to keep abortion rare. These morons do nothing.
krunk1980 19 hours ago
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@krunk1980 "Planned Parenthood actually try to keep abortion rare"
Really"?
Yet they are the worlds LARGEST abortionists and even put pressure on prolife countries like Ireland to provide abortions....Heck you really are a few fries short of a happy meal....LMAO.
AbortionKillsBabies 19 hours ago
@krunk1980
Lots of things that are clearly wrong do not warrant a severe penalty...that doesn't make them any less wrong.
UnplannedPregnancy 19 hours ago
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@UnplannedPregnancy No one's talking about wrong. They're talking about legal. You just lied about how this was heavily edited, which is wrong, but I don't think all lying should be illegal. Also making something illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. In fact there's no evidence that it deters people in the slightest. It may even INCREASE abortions. These anti-abortionists true motivation isn't protecting life, it's judging. They should spend their time handing out condoms.
krunk1980 19 hours ago
@krunk1980
"They should spend their time handing out condoms"
Why? Are the 1.3 million abortions a year in the USA alone due to some inexplicable inability to locate condoms?
UnplannedPregnancy 19 hours ago
Do NOT make a poorchoice....CHOOSE LIFE!
AlwaysChooseLife 19 hours ago
@AlwaysChooseLife Even God is for abortion- Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.- Hosea 13:16 and if u really want to see a bizarre endorsement of abortion read Numbers 5:11-21
krunk1980 11 hours ago
@krunk1980 You have completely and deliberately twisted scripture for your own proabortion cause. God says:
"I set before you Life and Death. Choose life, that you may live."
jazz0685 11 hours ago
@jazz0685 *I* am twisting scripture?!? PUH-LEAZE!!! I gave you an exact verbatim verse with no editorializing referring explicitly to killing the unborn. The passage u gave has nothing to do with the unborn.Check out 2 Kings 15:16 f you want more. And there's even more where that came from.
krunk1980 10 hours ago
@krunk1980 Yes, you are twisting scripture. I'm sure you can find plenty to accuse God of...after all, the Devil himself used scripture to tempt Christ.
God say...I set before you life and death. Choose life, and live.
jazz0685 10 hours ago
@jazz0685 DAMN! You are stupid. If you can use scripture to do the devil's work then why shouldn't I think that's what you're doing? You've already quoted that verse and ur being a liar by acting like it pertains to abortion. Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.- still want me to teach u more about ur own religion u dolt?
krunk1980 10 hours ago
@krunk1980 You can know I'm not doing the devil's work because I choose life..as God says, I set before you life and death...choose life and live...so, I choose life. I know you are doing the devil's work because you choose death...and have no life.
jazz0685 10 hours ago
@jazz0685 Wow! You are so brainwashed you can't even speak except to repeat the same thing over and over that doesn't pertain to this AT ALL. Enjoy you "life" living in a bubble of hypocrisy and nonsense. I'm REALLY choosing life. A life of reason and discovery and questioning. So long sucker.
krunk1980 9 hours ago
@krunk1980 just in case you didn't realise (but I'm sure you did cause you're smart) proliealaska, unplannedpregnancy, abobokilsbabies, mrsmcparlin1 are all the same pro lie troll trying to make ppl think they are talking to many pro liars. Jazz is his submissive puppet, also operates proliecalifornia and many other proliestates channels
MrsTardbuster1 9 hours ago
@MrsTardbuster1 Ok first of all I LOVE UR SN!! No, I didn't realize it was the same troll. They're all christ-bots regurgitating the same crap so they're indistinguishable anyway. Good to know it's one liar. Deception is lying but these buffoons don't think the rules of the religion they try to cram down our throats, apply to them. I write my comments and responses for readers and not necessarily for the braindead I'm responding to.
krunk1980 8 hours ago
@runk: You are doing fine. Keep up the good work, and do not let them shoo you away.
WeedaPeople 7 hours ago
@azz0: Jesus was just a Jewish man. There are no "scriptures" about the man. Just stories written by men, assembled by a manipulative organization of religion for an emperor to rule over an empire, and then passed off as a new Bible to control men and make them live as the emperor wanted.
WeedaPeople 7 hours ago
@UnplannedPregnancy Part of them. You can't hand out the pill. And what's your solution for what to do with 1.3 million unwanted kids a year? How many disabled, sick, of another race, born addicted to drugs, mentally ill, retarded, emotionally disturbed kids have YOU adopted?
krunk1980 10 hours ago
@krunk1980 "How many disabled sick of another race born addicted to drugs mentally ill retarded emotionally disturbed kids have YOU adopted?"
Why what happened? Didn't it work out for you ...are you looking for new adoptive parents?
AbortionRegrets 8 hours ago
@Regr: It does not matter how many you adopt, there will always be more unwanted kids than adoptive parents. That is just how it goes.
WeedaPeople 7 hours ago
@AbortionRegrets HAHA! This vid is the gift that keeps on givin'! As if the dullards in the vid weren't enough, we're treated to the buffoonery of the comments. With every post the anti-abortionists make they actually reinforce the logic of being pro-choice. Let's just say what passes as zinger for you is true.That I am upset that my adoptive parents didn't work out. Doesn't it make make sense that never being born is preferable to a miserable life?
krunk1980 5 hours ago
@UnplannedPregnancy and it's not "inexplicable" why people can't locate condoms. You must not be familiar with how sex works. It's your right wing retard buddies that object to condoms in schools and other places for teenagers to obtain. If they're not on you in the throws of passion it's pretty difficult to stop what you're doing and run out and get some.
krunk1980 10 hours ago
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The people in this video demonstrate that they don't even believe the premises most often used in arguing against abortion rights. If they actually thought abortion was "murder," like any killing that would commonly be deemed as such, they would want the perpetrators punished exactly the same. but they don't, and that shows that not even they consider abortion to be murder. Their stances are fraudulent.
ambrocal 1 day ago
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Woke up this morning, feeling fine
That's because my womb, is still mine
Woke up this morning, without a care
That's because I will never be, a walking pro-lie broodmare.!!!! :)
ambrocal 1 day ago
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The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
ambrocal 1 day ago
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Woke up this morning, feeling fine
That's because my womb, is still mine
Woke up this morning, without a care
That's because I will never be, a walking pro-lie broodmare.!!!! :)
ambrocal 1 day ago
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The people in this video demonstrate that they don't even believe the premises most often used in arguing against abortion rights. If they actually thought abortion was "murder," like any killing that would commonly be deemed as such, they would want the perpetrators punished exactly the same. but they don't, and that shows that not even they consider abortion to be murder. Their stances are fraudulent.
ambrocal 1 day ago
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Woke up this morning, feeling fine
That's because my womb, is still mine
Woke up this morning, without a care
That's because I will never be, a walking pro-lie broodmare.!!!! :)
ambrocal 1 day ago
Say NO to abortion and YES to life.
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
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@ProlieAlaska YES to legal abortion, NO to slavery!
ProChoicerAlaska 1 day ago
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@ProlieAlaska Say YES to legal abortion, NO to slavery!
ProChoicerAlaska 1 day ago
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@We
"If I am failing as you claim then prove me wrong"
LMAO...we BOTH KNOW that with regards your ridiculous claim that abortion does not kill anything that there is NOTHING you would ever accept to convince you of the truth..Though I suspect this is all just a perverse game to you and that you know perfectly well that a unique new human life begins at conception and that it does not somehow magically become alive when it reaches the outside...Not even your manipulated Torah text supports that!
AbortionKillsBabies 1 day ago
Abortion KILLS babies..and mothers too.
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
@roli: You can not prove that a baby was ever killed during an abortion.
A fetus is not a baby, and a fetus is not killed, because it does not have life yet.
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
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@We
"If I am failing as you claim then prove me wrong"
LMAO...we BOTH KNOW that with regards your ridiculous claim that abortion does not kill anything that there is NOTHING you would ever accept to convince you of the truth..Though I suspect this is all just a perverse game to you and that you know perfectly well that a unique new human life begins at conception and that it does not somehow magically become alive when it reaches the outside...Not even your manipulated Torah text supports that!
AbortionKillsBabies 1 day ago
Always choose LIFE!
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
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@ProlieAlaska Just CHOOSE!
ProChoicerAlaska 1 day ago
More than 70 THOUSAND deaths of mothers during or shortly after abortion every year (Guttmacher)
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
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@ProlifeAlaska I question your stats but the number of deaths would go up if abortion wasn't safe and legal. You're just like the idiots in this vid. Think of consequences and have some perspective besides just regurgitating what your preacher said. Making something illegal doesn't mean it will stop people. In fact it can have the opposite effect. That's why there's more drug use in the US were it's illegal than Holland were it is legal.
krunk1980 21 hours ago
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@krunk1980 "I question your dtats"
Those stats posted by prolifealaska are gathered by the Guttmacher Institute founded by Alan Guttmacher ..a former director of Planned Parenthood..the worlds LARGEST abortionists..
AbortionKillsBabies 20 hours ago
42 million abortion deaths of unborn babies every year (Guttmacher)
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
Clearly to anyone who has not been brainwashed an abortion KILLS a UNIQUE NEW HUMAN BEING...Such a pity that the "poorchoice" brigade need to DISHONESTLY make shit up instead of dealing only with facts.
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
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Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
MrsTardbuster1 2 days ago
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Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
ambrocal 2 days ago
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“DUNNO..errrr…. DUNNO” Hilarious Libertyville demonstrators, lol!
ambrocal 2 days ago
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Prolieakansas to MrsMCParlin "I see you've met weed.."
Who do you think you're fooling Tampoon?
How lonely you must be to talk to yourself on YT constantly!!!
Sad really! :)
ambrocal 2 days ago
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Prolieakansas to MrsMCParlin "I see you've met weed.."
Who do you think you're fooling Tampoon?
How lonely you must be to talk to yourself on YT constantly!!!
Sad really! :)
ambrocal 2 days ago
@ambr: I agree. How sad that he must use several profiles on YouTube, then call other people "liars".
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
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@WeedaPeople "but abortion does not kill"
There you go again stating nonsense as though it is a matter of fact and FAILING to make clear it is just your CONTRIVED religious interpretation of some words in the Torah...
AbortionKillsBabies 2 days ago
@AKB: If I am failing as you claim...then prove me wrong...(Still waiting)
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
@WeedaPeople Well I don't know about AKB but I have never had any other account since 2006 and I am here ready to defend the silent victim of abortion.
freespeachrulez 2 days ago
@spea: There is no victim of abortion. I do not care how many profiles you have. You can't kill what is not yet alive.
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
@WeedaPeople I've given you medical evidence before and you rejected it from medical terminology, if it helps clear your conscience and in some way you still feel you have a soul if there was ever one to begin with, then please just stick to your beliefs of your Jewish faith, you can't have it both ways. A double minded man is wicked in all his ways. Your not alive, and not killing stance is so far removed which is why most will never take you seriously.
freespeachrulez 2 days ago
@spea: Your medical evidence is weak. It proves nothing. This is not ablut clering my conscience, and I am sticking with my beliefs. I am not having anything more than one way. You just can not understand that, and that is a failure on your part, not mine.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
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@WeedaPeople "You are not free to believe as you please unless..bullshit bullshit bullshit"
Are you certifiable? Everyone is totally FREE to believe whatever they want...there is no policing of the mind..though maybe there is in weedaville!
AbortionKillsBabies 2 days ago
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@WeedaPeople "but abortion does not kill"
There you go again stating nonsense as though it is a matter of fact and FAILING to make clear it is just your CONTRIVED interpretation of some words cherry picked from the Torah...
AbortionKillsBabies 2 days ago
I decided to rob a bank today. I knew it was a bad decision, and that I MIGHT get caught. Well sure enough I did. But it wasn't my fault. I didn't PLAN on getting caught. I am too young to spend the rest of my life under this oppression called "A Prison" so I am going by Planned Criminalhood to undo this problem. There problem solved all better now. I only killed somebody that had a future in the process of my mistake but I didn't consider them human.
freespeachrulez 3 days ago
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@freespeachrulez you might also have killed "somebody" that would have as well worsen your problem and society's problems. It might have been a good idea... and that "somebody" COULD have a future but maybe not. Most of the time, gawd does the job for you without you knowing it.
ambrocal 2 days ago
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@freespeachrulez
Trying to equate sex with robbing a bank? That tells a lot about YOU.
No wonder you don't understand abortion RIGHTS.....
geezusispan 2 days ago
@freespeachrulez ...do you seriously think you can compare robbing a bank to having an abortion to save your life?
...I have lost all faith in the education system- this is stupider than comparing abriton to the holocaust.
ryddelwearsahat 2 days ago 2
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@ryddelwearsahat You can only reasonably use the term "save your life" if it is being saved from probable death..But I rather think you use it very loosely and histrionically to mean a multitude of things that are obviously INCOMPARABLE to death....and actually quite trivial by comparison..
AbortionKillsBabies 2 days ago
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@ryddelwearsahat and what do you think about TamponTicklesBabies talking to himself through his akas on YT? very stupid too...
ambrocal 2 days ago
@ryddelwearsahat Well the thought process is the same for any irrational behavior. I have heard sex and getting pregnant compared to playing with a loaded gun. If you play with a loaded gun and you get shot don't act surprised, of course it is going to change your life. Just like having unprotected sex might result in pregnancy.. there is that chance and it too will change your life. But abortion removes the consequences of behavior to cover up one bad decision with another.
freespeachrulez 2 days ago
@ryddelwearsahat I have about 5 years of abortion education under my belt from some of the greatest minds on the subject. But when I try to talk sense sometimes you have to dumb down the conversation. Obviously you didn't get it so maybe I should dumb it down some more. And if you want a history lesson about abortion and the holocaust look up planned parenthoods Margaret Sanger and the Nazi mentality she had.
freespeachrulez 2 days ago
@spea: Nice try, but abortion does not kill, so your whole scenario is moot.
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
@WeedaPeople If abortion does not kill then that abortion doctor would be fired and then she would have the baby! But last time I checked when they pull out the fetus it usually has no arms or head.. I guess then that would be alive? Ohhhhhh thats right your into this its not alive unless it has a soul.. Well cancer has no soul either but they have to go in and kill the cancer cells, and last time I checked cancer cells do not have a beating heart. Your so foolish soul boy.
freespeachrulez 2 days ago
@spea: No, the fetus dismembered would not be alive. It never was alive.
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
@WeedaPeople So what about a partial birth abortion is it half alive or half dead? Does he or she only have half a soul at that point? You make birth sound like a peek-a-boo game of "Lets play who has a soul" Stop playing God or advocating the right of people to play God. If a woman gets pregnant unless some other natural circumstance happens, still born, complications, or a natural termination happens then that is natural, there is nothing natural about abortion.
freespeachrulez 2 days ago
@spea: I have said all along that I do not believe we need to do partial birth abortions. That does not mean all abortion is bad.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople Answer the question. If that form of abortion is wrong you walk a thin line about all other forms of abortion because once again it is playing God and us deciding like it has been all along when it is right or wrong. So once again I will ask do you believe a partially aborted baby is half alive or have dead when it's feet are kicking out of the woman? At that point does he or she have half a soul or not? Pull out the head and find out..then push the head back in then what?
freespeachrulez 1 day ago
@spea: I did answer the question. Birth is birth, and with birth comes life. I do not know the whole process on how it is done, but if the fetus is disconnected from the woman and it takes a breath, it is alive. If it is not, then there is no real birthing process and there is no issue.
I also see no need to do this procedure either way.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople You say you are a disabled vet? Which conflict were you involved in..what injury did you sustain?
jazz0685 1 day ago
@jazz0685 haha Tampon's submissive puppet faithfully following the master's orders and being nosy because "they/it are/is" a US citizen...
MrsTardbuster1 1 day ago
@azz0: As I have said to others here, it is not important to the discussion of abortion and it is not your concern.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople If it's not my concern nor important to the discussion, then WHY did you post it here?
jazz0685 1 day ago
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@jazz0685
He posted it to blow his own trumpet and get sympathy....but it was a FAIL as he was TOTALLY UNABLE to back it up....just like EVERYTHING ELSE he posts....LMAO!
AbortionKillsBabies 1 day ago
@azz0: I was asked if I had taken "meds", and I answered truthfully, because I do take meds as a disabled combat vet. Not for any issues that were implied by the person asking.
Once again, all you people wish to do is personally attack anyone who you can not defeat any other way. Now you want to know more so you can craft some new attack and I do not owe you any further explanation.
I answered a personal attack with an honest answer and that is the end of it.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
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@WeedaPeople \
But weedy we were IMPRESSED to hear that you had actually fought for your country and sustained an injury as a consequence..We were begining to see you n a whole new light and then..POW..you REFUSE to tell us ANYTHING about it so we no longer know if you were even being truthful..... :(
AbortionKillsBabies 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople Where did I personally attack you? I asked you a respectful question...I am genuinely interested to know how you became disabled and where you served? I greatly admire veterans..if you volunteered the information about it, then why are you defensive about inquiries made about your service? I would like to know...
Which conflict were you involved in and what is the injury you sustained?
jazz0685 1 day ago
@azz0: I respectfully decline to answer. I am not defensive about my service or the service connected disability. It is just information you do not need to know.
Let it go. Just like your futile abortion fight. Let it go.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
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jazz0685 1 day ago
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@WeedaPeople I respectfully refuse your "decline," as you posted your comment about being a disabled veteran to a public forum, ie, this board. It is information you obviously considered "relevant" to this conversation..or are you playing games and only trying to evoke sympathy? If you refuse to answer, you lose credibility re that issue..as for the abortion issue and when life begins, you've long lost credibility there.
Where did you serve, and what injury did you sustain?
jazz0685 1 day ago
@azz0: I really do not care what you accept or not.
I lose no credibility by not providing you with more information about me than you require.
Again, let it go. I explained it to the extent you needed. You asked why I said it, I told you. That should be enough.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople Aww come on weedy we were not born yesterday...You LIED about being a "wounded war vet" didn't you? You're so funny and soooooo predictable! LMAO..
MrsMcParlin1 1 day ago
@MrsMcParlin1 Yes, he lied alright..."wounded war vet"..hahaha! What a lamo attempt at gaining respect..it only made him lose what little he may have had..
jazz0685 1 day ago
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@jazz0685 You two dud bulltits have been criticising people for not supporting combat soldiers' often times brutal behaviour, and are now attacking someone who let slip he does take meds for injury, as a war vet. YOU must take the cake for slime, surely?
While Weeda has an obvious blind spot where old superstitious English conflicts with modern English terms, facts and meanings, the rest of his prochoice stance is cogent and outsmarts goons like you with never a metaphorical leg to stand on.
Salinity1001 1 day ago
@azz0: It was no attempt to get respect from you disrespectful people. I never expect to get your respect, because you do not repect anything or anyone.
I have never lied, and you have no reason to believe I have. This is exactly why I do not give you information.
I am one of the very few who deserve respect here, since I am one of the very few who has always been honest, but all that gets me is more personal attacks.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@rsMc: I never lied about anything. I get a direct deposit from the VA every month (On the 1st of the month) for a service connected disability. I used to get a check, but they recently stopped issuing checks and now demand direct deposit. And they just increased the amount (Only someone who is disabled and has a certified disability through the VA knows that it is on the 1st, that they only do direct deposit now, and that they just increased the amount).
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople Well you should care because your reputation is on the line..you offered and now you don't want to say..it's your fault, not mine.
You explained nothing. Did you serve America, or Israel? Most likely neither one.
Since you refuse to explain your claim to be a disabled vet...a claim you volunteered here and that no one dragged or tricked out of you...then it is too clear that you are only playing games and lying about the entire thing to evoke sympathy and respect.
jazz0685 1 day ago
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@jazz0685 Really, Marynojizz? You and your pathetic twin of smarm Simon, ex of Pro-lie Inc. are now attempting to besmirch the name of a self stated war vet because YOU couple of cowards perceive his statement of circumstance gives him credibility, no one else, he has not pushed his service as a reason to convince anyone to believe anything. I can hardly believe your galling superciliousness based on your presupposition that anybody with different values cannot be taken seriously.
Salinity1001 1 day ago
@alin: Well, I certainly did not expect that, but I do appreciate the effort.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
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@WeedaPeople No wuckas, I call it as I see it, and those two juvenile, emotional, nasty bits o' work are no friends of humanity, reason or logic, at all.
It doesn't let you off the hook though Weeda, we can believe what we like, but we still have to live in the present..
Salinity1001 1 day ago
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@alin: I did not expect that you now agree with me on all things, but it is nice to see you can distinguish between adult conversation and childishness. I have a new found respect for you, even though you are wrong about other things. : )
WeedaPeople 17 hours ago
@azz0: My reputation is not on the line. You have nothing on me...and that is on purpose. I do not give you any more information that I want you to have.
I am not asking for sympathy...and people like you do not respect anything...including my privacy. I have explained all you need to know, and I owe you no further explanations.
Let it go. You attacking me over this is silly.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople ""you do not respect privacy""
Hell, if they respected privacy, they'd be prochoice! Butting their noses into other
peoples' business is their stock in trade.
Hexl702 1 day ago
@Hexl: Agreed. I also note that their own dishonesty keeps them from believing anyone else, especially those who disagree with them.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople I"m not attacking you though. I told you already I was genuinely interested. You hold out a carrot and then take it back and blame me and others if we are interested in the details. If you didn't want anyone to ask you about it, why did you post about it in the first place?
jazz0685 1 day ago
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@azz0: It was not a carrot, and you do not need any details. I told you why I posted it. I was asked if I took medications and I explained that I did. I also explained that the meds were not were implied. I answered a question honestly. The rest is you being intrusive and trying to pick at something to see if you can open it up and make it something it is not.
WeedaPeople 17 hours ago
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@WeedaPeople So you depict yourself as a "disabled war veteran" when in actual fact...you are not...
What was the point of that?
"I am pro-life and pro-abortion"
Yeah SUUUUURE you are...Is there ANYTHING you wouldn't say to TRY and provoke a reaction?
MrsMcParlin1 15 hours ago
@rsMc: I have been to war, and I have a service connected disability.
I do not know why this matters to you, but it is true, I owe you no further explanation, and no matter what I say, you are going to say that somehow I have lied, when I have not.
Because you are dishonest, you expect everyone else to be also, and not everyone is like you.
Abortion does not take life...so you can be pro-life and pro-abortion at the same time.
WeedaPeople 7 hours ago
@jazz0685
You sound like a battleaxe whose husband came home 15 minutes late for dinner. Why the interrogation, LOL dont you know, online everybody is rich, beautiful and young?
Hell, if the guy votes pro choice, thats good enough for me. Elections are about numbers. He doesnt have to prove anything to me. Why does he have to justify himself to you, who the hell are you ?
Hexl702 1 day ago
@Hexl: He is a dishonest person who automatically expects dishonesty from everyone else because of his own personal character flaws.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople How can you be both prolife and proabortion...and by the way, thank you for not using the term "prochoice"?
jazz0685 11 hours ago
@azz0: I am for life where life exists. I am pro-abortion because I think that no unwanted children should ever be born. Their souls should be allowed to go where they are wanted and will not be abused.
WeedaPeople 7 hours ago
@jazz0685
WOW - if this is what you do to someone who said he was a wounded war vet - Imagine
what youd do to someone who confessed they "KILLED A BABY"!
Can we have a sample please, youve never been afraid to cut loose before!
Hexl702 1 day ago
@Hexl: It is all about attacking people personally if they can not attack them any other way.
This is why abortion will never be made illegal again. They have nothing of substance to fight with. They instead attack the person on whatever they think they can.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople "They have nothing of substance to fight with"
LOLOLOLOLOL That is sooo funny weedy...what with you ONLY having your CONTRIVED interpretations of a few cherry picked words from the Torah and NOTHING else...not even your alleged war wound can help you now..poor poor weedy.
My God tells me you are a FAKE and you can not prove me wrong...so it must be true! LMAO
MrsMcParlin1 22 hours ago
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@rsMc: The dishonest person thinks I am "fake".
Okay. Are we done now?
WeedaPeople 17 hours ago
@Hexl702 Did "what" to a self-declared, supposed wounded war vet....if he were prolife would you believe him?
jazz0685 1 day ago
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@azz0: I am pro-life...and pro-abortion.
WeedaPeople 17 hours ago
@azz0: This is yet another example of you and your anti-abort friends trying to back me into some imaginary corner and where the truth easily explains the situation, and makes you look silly for the attempt.
When are you just going to accept that abortion is legal, people have different beliefs than you, you can not prove your beliefs are any better or more viable, and finally move on with your lives?
You lost this fight decades ago.
WeedaPeople 1 day ago
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@WeedaPeople "it is not important to the discussion of..blah blah"
But it WAS "important enough" for you to voluntarily mention..WITHOUT being asked..that you are allegedly a "disabled veteran on a disability pension"....
Were you LYING weedy?
AbortionKillsBabies 1 day ago
@WeedaPeople Abortion does kill...why do you KEEP on lying about that?
ProlifeAlaska 2 days ago
@roli: I am not lying about anything. Abortion does not kill, because you can not kill what is not yet alive.
WeedaPeople 2 days ago
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@WeedaPeople "because I defeat your logic"
LMAO..But you have NO LOGIC so how could you ever defeat is...bet you can't even prove what logic is? Lets face it weedy all you have ever managed to do is claim a disability allowance!
AbortionKillsBabies 2 days ago
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Pregnant? Scared shitless and alone? No one understands? Lonely, need someone to talk to?
AbortionKillsBabies says "GET LOST!""
ProChoiceCalifornia 3 days ago
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The people in this video demonstrate that they don't even believe the premises most often used in arguing against abortion rights. If they actually thought abortion was "murder," like any killing that would commonly be deemed as such, they would want the perpetrators punished exactly the same. but they don't, and that shows that not even they consider abortion to be murder. Their stances are fraudulent.
MrsTardbuster1 3 days ago
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"YOU want homosexuals to (eg) be able to marry people of the SAME gender..ie something that is NOT legal for heterosexuals."
HAHAHAHAHA another GEM from TamponTicklesBabies definitely BUSTED as a tard!
LMAO!!!
ambrocal 3 days ago
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Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
ambrocal 3 days ago
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"YOU want homosexuals to (eg) be able to marry people of the SAME gender..ie something that is NOT legal for heterosexuals." HAHAHAHAHA another GEM from TamponTicklesBabies definitely BUSTED as a tard!
LMAO!!!
ambrocal 3 days ago
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"YOU want homosexuals to (eg) be able to marry people of the SAME gender..ie something that is NOT legal for heterosexuals." HAHAHAHAHA another GEM from TamponTicklesBabies definitely BUSTED as a tard!
LMAO!!!
ambrocal 3 days ago
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Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
MrsTardbuster1 3 days ago
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The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
MrsTardbuster1 3 days ago
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Most anti-choice people don't even realize that they don't believe their own premises for being against abortion rights. For instance, they claim that all abortion is equally wrong, usually "murder," and that all life is equal and has the exact same value. however, they commonly get more outraged at late term abortion, which contradicts the stated position. they self-evidently look at it differently, which is the opposite of the foundational premise.
ambrocal 3 days ago
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@TamponTicklesBabies just CHOOSE!
MrsTardbuster1 3 days ago
People with dignity, integrity, and a sense of propriety who naturally take full responsibility for their actions, do NOT kill their babies.
AbortionKillsBabies 4 days ago
Aways choose LIFE!
AbortionKillsBabies 4 days ago
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“DUNNO..errrr…. DUNNO” Hilarious Libertyville demonstrators, lol!
AcornsArentOaks 4 days ago
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The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
MrsTardbuster1 4 days ago
The clinic this took place in front of (which btw is not in Libertyville) is now closed due to violations and harmful conditions for women. It hadn't been inspected for years.
Hey Lee, where is your video on that? Or maybe you're not really that interested in women's health. Just the legal right for you to coerce the ones you get pregnant to get abortions. From this video it's obvious *you* think the woman is to be blamed and punished, you keep pushing the point.
Minxcomix 4 days ago
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@Minxcomix does anybody want harmful clinics for women? Does anybody want to insist a female give birth to a child she does not want?
Are these women and one silly male protesting that they know best for others in a situation they are not in? Is it all because they think they act for an all powerful ghost or a pathetic do nothing at all ghost and how would they know?
If one thinks there is an anti social crime, and there should be no punishment, is that not an illogical point exposed?
Salinity1001 4 days ago
@Minxcomix Well said!
AbortionKillsBabies 4 days ago
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@AbortionKillsBabies Thank you Simon - if YOU think that was well said, I know I dont have to worry about a factually, logically contradictory reply from that poster. Half baked nincompoops stick together noticeably and unless Minxcomix's god has suddenly poofed real and powerful.... nope, then you and she have everything in common but nothing in common with reality. (though I suspect a grain of truth may be infiltrating your big.... noddle by now. Always keep an open mind, my Dad always says)
Salinity1001 3 days ago
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@Salinity1001 LOL!!
MrsTardbuster1 3 days ago
@Minxcomix
Clinics might close for any number of reasons, especially in a bad economy, but the
right to chose remains.
Hexl702 4 days ago
@Hexl702 This clinic was closed due to number of health violations. Permanently.
Minxcomix 4 days ago
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“DUNNO..errrr…. DUNNO” Hilarious Libertyville demonstrators, lol!
ambrocal 5 days ago
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@ambrocal Hey babe i think we got spammed lol!
SuperMountainGal 5 days ago
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The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
ambrocal 5 days ago
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The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
ambrocal 5 days ago
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@ambrocal Yah, LOL!! :)
SuperMountainGal 5 days ago
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@ambrocal Because 1/3 of American women have abortions in their lifetime and they wouldn't want to throw such a large portion of the population in jail. I guess being a slutty mc whore bag is punishment enough.
wheresmycrownyo 5 days ago
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ambrocal 5 days ago
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@ambrocal Im sorry if the sarcasm was not clear enough.
wheresmycrownyo 5 days ago
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@wheresmycrownyo I'm sorry if I didn't get your sarcasm, lol. I did get it. I'm removing my post! :)
ambrocal 5 days ago
@ambrocal I had a hard time finding this comment but I get it, sarcasm doesn't translate well textually. I had a youtube stalker briefly but all he did was tell me that rape culture is a myth and how equal American society already is.
wheresmycrownyo 5 days ago
@wheresmycrownyo A word to the wise..
Don't be fooled...You will find that ambrocal (a French transexual with COUNTLESS usernames) IS the STALKER here....
ProlifeTexas 4 days ago
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@ProlifeTexas 'A word to the wise..' Should we be impressed that it comes from a dumbass like you Simon?
Why do you pro-lifes always lie? Nothing you utter is true, its all - made - up - flim-flam, god you are useless.
Salinity1001 4 days ago
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@wheresmycrownyo oh look my stalker spammed your comment!
Truth hurts!
ambrocal 5 days ago
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The people in this video clearly demonstrate that they don't even believe their own premises. if they thought that abortion was just like any other illegal killing...ie murder, they would want every woman that hires a person to be convicted of 1st degree murder for murder for hire, just like anyone else that hires a person to murder someone. but they don't want that. in fact, they commonly don't want the woman punished at all. Not being sure of what they want done shows an inherent distinction.
MrsTardbuster1 5 days ago
This is still one of the greatest videos ever made. Brilliant. Genius.
joonzchoi 6 days ago
@joonzchoi Yeah!
SuperMountainGal 6 days ago
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If one hurls that abobo is the most horrible despicable crime against the most vulnerable innocent human being and has nothing against the "murderer", it would surely tell me that they don't even believe in their own crapaganda (or they hate those 'fluffy lickle babies').
MrTardbuster1 6 days ago
And I'm sure Pro-Abortion people are all so very well informed as to what happens. There are uninformed people on both sides.
Your argument is moot. Not all illegal activity is punished implicitly. Nor is all illegal activity punished by jail. Furthermore, abortion is legal. But if you kill a woman who is pregnant, you are charged with double homicide or double murder. That is a double standard that even the ignorant can see clearly. Perhaps they are ignorant, but the law is contradictory.
bryceboyblue 6 days ago