[WIP] KOTH_MEDICINALPRACTICE - Meet the Medic Replica Map

[RefikPostal]

Nazi Medic .

[Soggz4]

guys, i've been on a server just today that had this map. oh and there are plenty of easter eggs for you.

[DestructiveSlayer]

Any estimated time this will be released? Just asking. :P

[DestructiveSlayer]

Well I will check those out, I will try and find some things to help out more. :D

[bLEKI557]

I don't understand how nobody sees this but this hospital look was VALVe's reference to one of the Reich's buildings in Nazi Germany, instead of Red Cross on top it was a Swastika and it was damaged the same way as the Red Cross in the video, the building was a symbol of Nazi power, I just can't remember what was the name of the building and where it was located and it drives me crazy cuz I'm a WW2 history knowitall and I want to find out!

[TheGmodGtards]

@bLEKI557 The building is actually heavily based on the Pacific Medical Center located in Seattle, Washington (near where Valve is based).

[kcikdubb]

DUDE! Show Valve!!

[TheaterTurkey]

I cant wait intill this map is out and if it is out show me the link to it

[super64ds1]

Good map it looks like its based off meet the medics hospital i cant wait to play this map as a medic and heavy and others will be epic :3

[111lower]

Make an Halloween version, maybe Valve will put it in this Halloween, with Mad Doctor Boss :D

[XXBlazeXXxx]

please can u tell me how u make the soldier in blue behind the stand with hats?

[TheGmodGtards]

@XXBlazeXXxx Place a dynamic_prop entity and set the model to one of the TF2 characters. Then go to the "Model" tab, in the entities settings, pick the animation or pose you would like them to use from there (it functions as a preview). Then when you have chosen one, go back to the main tab, and paste it in as it's default animation. This is from memory so I hope this helps. To change the team color, change the skin number from "0" to "1".

[XXBlazeXXxx]

@TheGmodGtards ok,so i did what you have told but some of the character as they pose keep going down into the ground,how do i fix that?

[LOLBling1907]

I thought it was Badwater with a newer skybox and few props.. Nice mapping work!

[WatiTheChef]

Eh, I was making this, but I can't be assed now that I know someone's done it for me XD.

[qwerty222999]

So this is a useless gameplay map, but instead just pure eye-candy?

[TheGmodGtards]

@qwerty222999 Gameplay has been taken into consideration when making this map. I have yet to see how well it plays out, but it was not intended to be just a set.

[qwerty222999]

@TheGmodGtards Yet it is still a very nice work.

[migero2]

deploying baby photo in 3 ... 2.. 1 ...

[alonalon777]

99% that this will become a valve official community made

[Peravu]

I'll give you my left nut to release it NAU.

[jesternario]

Question: did you make this based solely by watching the video, or did you have access to some set piece that they used?

[GiantPugTV]

@jesternario He only watched the video. He watched it many times over and over again.

[PringlesPrinzivalli]

If this map is well optimized it could very well become my favorite KOTH map.

[NintendoSpoofer]

I wish it were just a little bit darker (in the sky box). It seems to light out, plus this game needs more night time maps, because night is cool! :D

[TheGmodGtards]

@NintendoSpoofer I understand where you are coming from, but this map surprisingly uses some of the darkest environment lighting settings. The darkness and gloom in Meet the Medic come from tweaking the contrast after producing the video from the game. As it stands now, some areas of the map are almost black. Any darker and it would be unplayable in areas unfortunately. Thanks for commenting!

[NintendoSpoofer]

@TheGmodGtards I okay. I guess what I meant was that Meet the Medic seemed like it was later at night. But looks good so far.

[TheGmodGtards]

@NintendoSpoofer Well the time of day (visually) is defined by the image printed on the skybox. Meet the Medic uses pl_thundermountain's skybox, and so does this map. So the actual sky itself is the same. The other thing to remember is, the time of day varies in the video. At the beginning of Meet the Medic, it's sunset. Yet towards the end, it's rather dark. All in all, there's little I can do beyond what has been done really. Thanks for the comment :).

[ifidio2]

It looks great, but I think that it would work better as a CP map

[TheGmodGtards]

@ifidio2 It's not big enough for a capture point map. Please check the future update videos. I have already addressed questions/statements such as this. Thanks for the comment.

[MunchyToast001]

Just one small thing , if you see the first camera for the spectator wich shows the outside of the hospital , i kinda get the feeling that the middle tower is a little too small.

[TheGmodGtards]

@MunchyToast001 This is an older piece of footage. There have been a lot of updates since. Also, the Hospital was scaled from each individual part. For example, you make a window first. Then you base the width and size of all other pieces based on that same window. While the real Hospital as a whole may be slightly taller or shorter, the one I have created should be pretty much correct scale wise.

[Andrewnuva199]

Oh gosh, I am so anxious to play around on this map right now.

[Imrandomftw]

Map looks awesome, I hope you can get it done =)

IMO though, I think the map would be better suited as A/D, with 2 points. Like Gorge.

[link123175]

Hey, just a thought here but uhh... The window in the operating room maybe should be cracked? and have some blood on it? since scout took quite a header into it?

[TheGmodGtards]

@link123175 You should check my channel. There's been about 3/4 new videos added with map updates since then. The crack was already added.

[flameandchip]

It would be really cool if the quick fix acted like a dispenser/payload cart and healed people with a beam who stand next to it.

[MaSuDezender]

Maybe better make attack/defend cp,than koth?

[KaollaTheSu2]

Where did you get meet the medic souindtrack?

[kitchsc]

01:20 can you add more classes in this room

[TheGmodGtards]

@kitchsc That was my intention when I started. The problem is, only the Soldier and the Demoman have poses that worked well enough to have them there. All the other classes looked strange when I tried to make it look like they were sat down or doing what they did in the video. Unless I get custom animation versions, I doubt I'll add more classes there. Though I'll put them in the ward with the two Heavys instead if they'll fit.

[chibichibininjachibi]

My jaw dropped when watching the video.

Then I realised.......Wait a minute...the music for Meet the Medic was already released? My jaw broke off.

[JPRAS96]

If you need any help but modeling, PM me.

I can also host a server with the map for beta-testing and such.

Reply to me

[JPRAS96]

@TheGmodGtards

Could I PLEASE get an answer?

[360cent]

Sir, what about the music in the beginning of the video? Can you upload it?

[Adventruer]

I wonder if the first play through will be a soldier rush.

[Svitrius]

yay 5000th view lol

[yacanman11]

(the map they used is actually a version of badwater)

[UnholyShadow23]

This makes me wish I knew more about modeling/animating so I could help you. :C

[TwinkieTexas]

If there is any way to make a pile of BLU soldiers the control point like in the video, I'd cry tears of joy. This map looks amazing!

[akatsuki12354]

Official map i mean

[BrothersWeird]

where's the custom bandage scout skin from?

[SuperFly8anzai]

Great, great map. How many people do you think will do the "Meet the Medic" taunt in the doorway at 2:34?

[TheRandomEpicVideos]

@SuperFly8anzai Seven.

[RaziTheRedUncle]

@SuperFly8anzai Me. :3

[theZombieBub]

the hell? my GarrysMod group is called G-Tards :(

[OluapPlayer]

Incredible

[McPfoot]

Looks ugly

[jokey365]

Anyone else want 'Meet the Medic' made on this map?

[juliandunn]

Looks cool.

You should make a CTF version too! (I'm not a big fan of KOTH)

Also from a gameplay standpoint that large open area looks like a pyro's nightmare and a sniper's dream. Just a thought.

[TheGmodGtards]

@juliandunn If I was to make another gamemode when this is final (has been released several times with different alpha/beta versions), I would definitely do CTF first. The map could work with that with additional rooms added for the intel. Consider it done when I make any new modes for it.

[TheGmodGtards]

@juliandunn Also I should mention; in the large open area, there is a tunnel running under the main section (as the map in Meet the Medic is an extremely heavily modified Badwater Basin). This should give cover from Snipers to get across the map, and gives Pyros a place to lurk (though there are several places in the map to lurk).

[walshcody]

a couple things you forgot

the table that gets hit when heavy slaps the table to medics joke has a strange melee on it. its around 0:32 or 33

Also when heavy is holding his own rib you can see his gun in the background on a table.

and again when the bird gets hit with a piece of heavy heart you can see in the background that miss pauling is standing behind a glass window...something to look into.

[TheGmodGtards]

@walshcody I didn't forget any of those. Sasha (his gun) in the background, is already in the game. I don't need a model made for that, so I didn't ask for it. I had still intended on placing it in the finished room. The operating viewing window is already there, you can see it in this video, however there are shutters covering them from the inside.

[HypotheDragon]

Very, very, very, VERY nice.

[glufamichel]

I like your voice (no homo!). And the map looks quite cool as well :D

[ZavCoyote]

Oh god this is WAY better than the one I made.

I love you.

[austinowns0331]

@ZavCoyote Lol Zav, yours was good, but wasn't that attentive to detail and it was kinda dark. Don't worry, practice makes perfect :D

[TheGmodGtards]

@ZavCoyote Thanks for the compliment! You should probably know that it was actually your map that inspired me to try and replicate it myself!

[ZavCoyote]

@TheGmodGtards Oh man, now I'm blushing :D I hope the project turns out for the better on your half! Seems like the models you need are just flowing in from your latest updates!

Good luck!

[timerider4]

Valve might release their assets, like with Meet the Sniper.

[timerider4]

You've moved halfway around the world twice?

[TheGmodGtards]

@timerider4 Not sure if I replied to this, but if not: I have family in both the UK and USA. I've grown up with both countries. I consider myself to be American however out of the two and it's more homely to me :).

[WindyPower]

Whee you even managed to plug the wiki IRC in there :3

I luff you Benjineer, I hope you get the help you deserve~ I can't help though, because I suck at modeling, or art stuffs in general :(

[SoylentBacon]

TAKE MY MONEY NOW. I don't care that I already own and can play this for no extra cost, TAKE MY MONEY NOW.

Seriously though, if this map plays well, I hope it becomes one of those community maps that Valve picks up. I joked about taking my money, but now that I think of it, people will be able to support your hard work with stamps in that case.

[asspunker2me]

can you test this map with bots?

[TheGmodGtards]

@asspunker2me I thought about that the other day. I'll probably give it a try with bots for the hell of it right when it's ready for a first release.

[Kekskuchen666]

This is AMAZING.

[oB2KoMario]

Should have called it KOTH_MALPRACTICE

I kept misreading it that way and I say it works a million times better

[Spycrab777]

I would so totaly donate to keep this server running.

[Linkzcap]

why not just KOTH_HOSPITAL?

[TheGmodGtards]

@Linkzcap Because a map already exists called KOTH_HOSPITALGROUNDS, and I didn't want to people to confuse the names. The name (if changed) will likely be changed to KOTH_DROGENTOTE.

[darksupersonic09]

@TheGmodGtards call it koth_krankenhaus

krankenhaus: german for hospital

[tylermcbridecartoons]

This'd be much better as an Attack/Defense map. Especially near the climax of the battles.

[TheGmodGtards]

@tylermcbridecartoons It's unfortunately not big enough for it. It may not look it in the video, but it really is a KOTH sized map. There is no room for more control points with adding areas to the map that don't exist in the video.

[BlueYoshi121]

Who knows, maybe if it becomes big enough, Valve may take interest in it. Who knows. Although, I expected it to be Attack/Defense like Gorge. I like it either way.

[bigbadbarron]

I have a privacy curtain nearly complete if you haven't gotten one yet

[admmelonhead]

can't you just upload the file somewhere then take it back :I

[bioniclemac300]

what the ip i want help with map

[keggie09]

Name Ideas:

BloodBowl

MedicalMastery

HorridHospital

[Sciencebro]

@keggie09 Also:

Blood Drive

Heart2Heart

Healer's Horror

Doctor's Duel

Hell's Hospital

[Smithsonian45]

When you're ready to have it run on more servers, my clan/community would be happy to install it :D

[linkzero2]

I suggest changing the name to KOTH_Hospice

[Thoopje]

Where did u get the music 

[vixxito]

I want this to be polished as possible and Valve to make it official. I will buy a shitton of stamps for this map.

[Reixi2525]

Thumps up if you want to have him OFFICIAL in the game !

[gidioter]

I'm a 3d max artist , uf you need something call me , but i bad at texturing

[xpericfilms]

that's really cool, especially how you've even taken gameplay into account. will players be able to go into the operating room or just look in via a window?

good job.

[RKNNDY]

What servers will be running this map?

[TheGmodGtards]

@RKNNDY The first server to test this will be my gaming community called TDC (The Dalokohs Club). The IP and other information can be found at the website shown in the video.

[xpericfilms]

@RKNNDY most likely his one.

[NN561]

WHO SEND SEND ALL THESE BABIES TO FIGHT!!!

[iPootis]

It would be nice to see Valve "helping" you like what the L4D Team did with Cold Stream.

[StudioAR3]

I am enjoying that baby.

[silentsniperrr]

I can definately help with mapping. Just more of the static stuff like architecture... not stuff like sliding doors. lol

[JPRAS96]

Hey, if you want, I can run your map when its ready in my server.

If you want me to, reply to this either by PM or reply to this comment.

I'd like to help you out with models, but unfortunatly I don't know how to model...

Nice work

[dahudge14]

DOKTOR, ARE YOU SURE DIS VIL WORK????

[BaronVonFail]

I'm going to go on holiday soon so I have a very small time scale to work on my self. But I will gladly try and help you model some of these things.

[TheGmodGtards]

@BaronVonFail I'd be happy to have your help. If you have the time of course, as I would hate to cause any issues with your travels!

[BaronVonFail]

@TheGmodGtards I shall do my best. I won't rush anything and give it my all.

I must admit however this will be the 1st time working to make props for tf2 but I have made models for use in other games and such. Do you know what the scale for the game is in 3ds Max? If not I will just have a bit of a mess around and find out. All a learning curve

[TheGmodGtards]

@BaronVonFail I've only dealt with Blender (seeing as it's free). For the things I've made myself, I used the video as reference by comparing sizes to other things, and also compared the models I made to items/models in the actual game. I simple resized the final item if it was wrong after compiling. Sorry I couldn't be more help there.

[BaronVonFail]

@TheGmodGtards Oh no that is fine. I'm using medics player model as ref as it stands.

[jamesminnow]

You are an amazing human being

[WindyPower]

@jamesminnow Such levels of awesomeness are not possible of being reached by mere humans

[WindyPower]

I'm at work so I can't watch with sound, and it seems things after the 3:15 mark require it, so I can't comment on this fully yet BUT FROM WHAT I SEE IT'S THE EPICEST THING EVER OMG <3 Benjineer is kredit to medicine hat performance aperture testing

[Darthcaboose87]

CRY SOME MORE BABY!

[dlomng]

If you find time make the whole map darker and gloomer. Like on MtM.

[TheGmodGtards]

@dlomng The map is actually as dark as the environment lighting can go without it being too dark. Though I will consider trying to somehow make a darker version for the machinima version of the map that I will release afterward.

[TheGmodGtards]

@TheSolidSnake12 I considered it, but replicating the content was more the point, and gives off a lot more satisfaction :).

[Andrewnuva199]

If you can't get the props in time, you need to put this somewhere private for others to download and finish up.

[TheGmodGtards]

@Andrewnuva199 I've poured so much of my free time into this, so it's kind of become my baby. I wasn't even going to ask for help until I realized I was running out of time. I'd rather perfect it and release it late, than just dump it on a bunch of random people. Thanks for the suggestion though!

[devicattt]

Loving it so far keep up the great work! :D

[FirstPersonRick]

Man, I really wish I could model right now. Id do anything to help get this map out to play. It looks awesome!

[zgcentrs]

If this does not go official, Robin Walker has no soul

[TheGmodGtards]

@psykemaster Indeed it was.

[XyzKiller2]

Did you ever release a beta of the map? Because I've been to a server with this map already and it was very small lol

[TheGmodGtards]

@XyzKiller2 Nope. This is brand new, and this video is the first anyone has seen of it. The map your thinking of is koth_hospitalgrounds which was not made by me.

[XyzKiller2]

@TheGmodGtards Alright I think you're right now that I think of it.

[Chess7051]

I'm just thinking...wouldn't it have been easier to make the map an attack/defend?

[TheGmodGtards]

@Chess7051 The gamemode isn't a focus at the moment. The KOTH capture point you see before you was just dropped in as a prefab to make the map playable. If all goes well, there's no reason as to why I wont make other versions of the map in my spare time :).

[mikebrightman]

have you done the medic's office? it was one of 3 easter egg pictures on the tf2 site before it was updated. you clicked a dove and got to a picture of either the office, the hospital, or the waiting room. if you check the tf2 wiki, and goto the dove's page, it has the three pictures, so maybe that might help...?

also loving the progress so far. did you do what valve did and modify...i think it was viaduct? i think that was what they used....

[TheGmodGtards]

@mikebrightman I saw the images (I believe I mention it at some point during the video heh). In future versions of the map before a final release (e.g. when I release a1, a2 etc) I will consider adding the room. Right now I'm already swamped with models I can't finish in time. But we'll see, who knows.

[mikebrightman]

@TheGmodGtards fair enough. i thought i heard you mention the cabinet in there is also in the op room. anywho, good luck. better to work on valve time than rush it.

[TheGmodGtards]

@mikebrightman This is true. I'd much rather work at it for accuracy (only before I noticed a barbed fence I had missed), than rush it. Thanks!

[EvilDeadFan1995]

Can't wait to play it!

[MachPivot]

BLU Team should be forced to play only Soldier

[AWGLCommunity]

Add me bro on steam 1337tf2. I'm a modeler and might be able to make the bucket for u...

[TheGmodGtards]

@AWGLCommunity Feel free to send any images or example model images to my email address. I like to keep my Steam profile private. I can't promise anything though!

[Omnicrox]

Wow... It's a shame I can't help, because this is pure awesomeness. I hope you'll find someone who is willing to assist you soon, this map HAS to be released.

[DoctorNuriel]

SEXY

[FissionMetroid101]

I just knew someone would make a map based off MTM!

Also unless you've got it covered, I could help make some smoke particles for the building. I've been working with particles for a while now, so I think I could make similar ones to what were in MTM.

[TheGmodGtards]

@FissionMetroid101 It took me a while to find a particle effect that wasn't for the Skybox, that was big enough, and that allowed me to influence it's direction. I hadn't considered replacing them till you commented, so in other words, I'm interested in seeing how the custom particles would look!

[FissionMetroid101]

@TheGmodGtards Alrighty, I'll get to work, but first I've got to ask, what were you using for this video? I need a base size to work off of.

[TheGmodGtards]

@FissionMetroid101 All my sizes were done based on the "Meet the..." video itself. For the scale of the bucket/bomb, use the Medic as a reference, as they use the same scale model as the in-game one, that and the fact that the Medic is already decompiled for use somewhere in the SourceSDK.

[FissionMetroid101]

@TheGmodGtards Alright, I'll do my best. If you could give me the dimension in hammer units of a hole in the building, I could get the smoke size more precise.

[TheGmodGtards]

@FissionMetroid101 Sure. Just checked now. Using the hole seen on the left of the front of the building, the top of the hole is about 60 at it's widest point, and for the front of the hole (where the windows are) it's roughly 80-90 at it's widest point. I just looked VERY quickly so I could be slightly off, but that should be the gist of it.

[FissionMetroid101]

@TheGmodGtards Alright thanks man. I'll get to work on them as soon as possible!

[YellowoboeThe]

This is hot.

[AdamGCurtis]

Can't wait to see it when it's finished :D

[SgtChilly]

What's up with the picture of the baby?

[MogDog66]

This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen anywhere ever. And I truly mean that

[WindyPower]

@MogDog66 :3

[elronman]

@MogDog66 hes right, thats one amazing baby.