@musc124 i agree to a certain extent, erving was the smoothest dunk for sure, but mj had better hang time and better explosivness, not trying to set up an argument, just my opinion
@CreatureLikeGod MJ couldn't palm the ball like Dr. J. who had the hand size and sensitivity to move it around like a grapefruit using only 1 hand while driving in the painted area. This allowed him to use finger rolls more often and more effectively. MJ's best rebound per game average was 8.0 in 88/89 compared to Dr.J's 15.7 RPG in his rookie year. He was also a more selective shooter with a consistently better field goal %. You must have a different definition of "every way".
@Sovnarkom ...mj couldnt palm the ball like dr. j?...quite simply,yes he could..he has caught the ball in mid-air by palming it...check the footage,it doesnt lie..
"mj palms the ball in mid-air"
and you are mentioning dr. j's 15.7 rpg in the ABA?...thats ridiculous.and dr.j didnt consistently have a better fg%...he shot slightly higher than mike in fg%...but they both had a .509% effective fg%,which factors in the value of 3-pters,and mike had a higher true shooting %,which factors in fts
@shaqpopcorn34 I didn't say that Mike couldn't palm the ball but that he couldn't palm it "like" Dr. J. Simply put, his hands were larger. The way that Kobe could never handle the ball like Mike does, holds true for Mike vs Dr. J. The Doctor's one handed fakes in mid-air and his finger-roll shot were only rivaled by Connie Hawkins. As for rebounding - he was definitely the more skilled rebounder and even if you factor in only his NBA statistics after age 26, he still has a RPG higher than MJ's.
@Sovnarkom Thank you. I"ve been saying this for sometime now. Julius had massive hands. That was his other trademark.. There were guys a lot taller, but his hands were bigger. Connie was the only guy around that height, a little taller with hands bigger. Julius had the hands of a center and Connie hands were beyond that of a center.
@Sovnarkom Dr. J. was a small forward! Jordan was a 2 guard! You can't compare the positions as far as rebounding. I love Dr. J though, and his hands were huge.
@thewolfmanchu Doc and Jordan were both swingmen who played both the 2 and 3 positions. They were comparable in height and weight with Doc being an inch taller and Jordan being a few pounds heavier. Jordan had more range on his shot making him a more effective guard and Doc had the better mits on him and was more creative in the paint making him a more effective forward but they're about as comparable as the greats come.
@CreatureLikeGod Dr J averaged 1.7 blocks to MJ's 0.8.Erving had 8.5 rebounds to MJ's 6.2.Dr J kicked ass on the boards,one season he was up to 15.7! I've watched bolth these guys play,MJ's the best ever. But there's only one Doctor J an he's always been favorite.
@MrScott4020 ok i'm not looking for an argument but no it was not better in the 90's defense was played and the defense was much tougher the 90's had some of the best jump shooters ever.
Beautiful clip. Only Elgin, Dr. J and MJ had the large hands and hops to create with unlimited frequency. Lebron has some large hands as well but not like these guys.
it doesn't matter. MJ already has too many beautiful shots. And basically MJ is different from Dr.J. Their jump shot, dunk, lay up...all looks so different.
Only? Connie Hawkins, larger hands same style of game. Clyde Drexler, game like the Dr. and had large hands. And there are others too. I'm sure that Lebron's hands are as big as Jordan, but not like the Dr. Dr hand some extremely large hands.
@hoopsencyclopedia Connie Hawkins hand very large hands and use to finger roll often. Same with Wilt Chamberlin. And let's not forget the king of the Finger roll. George Gervin. He had the best.
A lay up from the free throw line; Dr. J is the greatest.
cflo1386 2 weeks ago
Who's stopping that? Nobody.
PatrickEganLong 2 months ago
Watch the game in the 70-80's,they were basketball players not thugs!
MrScott4020 3 months ago
@MrScott4020 I agree that 70-80s were basketball players, to me that was the golden age of basketball.
cflo1386 2 weeks ago
okay i see all these mj and dr.j how in heaven or hell could yall know how big either of there hands were you couldn't so everybody shut the hell up
cell196 3 months ago
@cell196
Case in point: /watch?v=HG0NoJDJHHc
PatrickEganLong 2 months ago
DR. J did the best finger rolls ever....period...next topic
scorpionJB 10 months ago
Clyde the Glide, baby. Dr. J's apprentice. He even did Clyde's HOF intro.
badpdx 11 months ago
not impressive...he's so long
smarteffort 11 months ago
Dr. J had style even MJ dreams about
30 years later
Still makes me go WOW!
toyotas2006 1 year ago
u can talk about MJ but Erving was more graceful in the air in my op.
musc124 1 year ago 11
@musc124 i agree to a certain extent, erving was the smoothest dunk for sure, but mj had better hang time and better explosivness, not trying to set up an argument, just my opinion
SuperHeimen 1 year ago
@musc124 MJ was better in every way compared to Dr.J
CreatureLikeGod 1 year ago
@CreatureLikeGod Bull shit. We call that an opinion.
epics7 8 months ago
@CreatureLikeGod MJ couldn't palm the ball like Dr. J. who had the hand size and sensitivity to move it around like a grapefruit using only 1 hand while driving in the painted area. This allowed him to use finger rolls more often and more effectively. MJ's best rebound per game average was 8.0 in 88/89 compared to Dr.J's 15.7 RPG in his rookie year. He was also a more selective shooter with a consistently better field goal %. You must have a different definition of "every way".
Sovnarkom 8 months ago
@Sovnarkom ...mj couldnt palm the ball like dr. j?...quite simply,yes he could..he has caught the ball in mid-air by palming it...check the footage,it doesnt lie..
"mj palms the ball in mid-air"
and you are mentioning dr. j's 15.7 rpg in the ABA?...thats ridiculous.and dr.j didnt consistently have a better fg%...he shot slightly higher than mike in fg%...but they both had a .509% effective fg%,which factors in the value of 3-pters,and mike had a higher true shooting %,which factors in fts
shaqpopcorn34 6 months ago
@shaqpopcorn34 I didn't say that Mike couldn't palm the ball but that he couldn't palm it "like" Dr. J. Simply put, his hands were larger. The way that Kobe could never handle the ball like Mike does, holds true for Mike vs Dr. J. The Doctor's one handed fakes in mid-air and his finger-roll shot were only rivaled by Connie Hawkins. As for rebounding - he was definitely the more skilled rebounder and even if you factor in only his NBA statistics after age 26, he still has a RPG higher than MJ's.
Sovnarkom 6 months ago
@Sovnarkom Thank you. I"ve been saying this for sometime now. Julius had massive hands. That was his other trademark.. There were guys a lot taller, but his hands were bigger. Connie was the only guy around that height, a little taller with hands bigger. Julius had the hands of a center and Connie hands were beyond that of a center.
epics7 5 months ago
@Sovnarkom Dr. J. was a small forward! Jordan was a 2 guard! You can't compare the positions as far as rebounding. I love Dr. J though, and his hands were huge.
thewolfmanchu 1 month ago
@thewolfmanchu Doc and Jordan were both swingmen who played both the 2 and 3 positions. They were comparable in height and weight with Doc being an inch taller and Jordan being a few pounds heavier. Jordan had more range on his shot making him a more effective guard and Doc had the better mits on him and was more creative in the paint making him a more effective forward but they're about as comparable as the greats come.
Sovnarkom 1 month ago
@CreatureLikeGod No, not in every way. There's no way to substantiate that opinion.
hakola95 6 months ago
@CreatureLikeGod Dr J was a better rebounder,shot blocker an my opinion had alot more class!
MrScott4020 6 months ago
@MrScott4020 Dr J had more class, but idk about the other two. MJ was deff a better rebounder.
CreatureLikeGod 6 months ago
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MrScott4020 6 months ago
@CreatureLikeGod Dr J averaged 1.7 blocks to MJ's 0.8.Erving had 8.5 rebounds to MJ's 6.2.Dr J kicked ass on the boards,one season he was up to 15.7! I've watched bolth these guys play,MJ's the best ever. But there's only one Doctor J an he's always been favorite.
MrScott4020 6 months ago
@MrScott4020 How many games did he play in that 15 rebound season?
CreatureLikeGod 6 months ago
@CreatureLikeGod He played 84 games,an this was his rookie year.
MrScott4020 6 months ago
@MrScott4020 then the talent level wasn't the same
cell196 3 months ago
@cell196 Your right,it was better. Guys could shoot jump shots, make free throws, an play defense.
MrScott4020 3 months ago
@MrScott4020 ok i'm not looking for an argument but no it was not better in the 90's defense was played and the defense was much tougher the 90's had some of the best jump shooters ever.
cell196 3 months ago
The good Doctor always took his soul to the hole
dlb7486 3 years ago 3
he makes it look so easy dr.j was so smooth
falkner23 3 years ago 16
@falkner23 thats what she said
ninjapig209 1 month ago
Beautiful clip. Only Elgin, Dr. J and MJ had the large hands and hops to create with unlimited frequency. Lebron has some large hands as well but not like these guys.
hoopsencyclopedia 3 years ago 3
Dr.J did so many crazy dunks and moves,but they haven't been shown anywhere.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
I think Jordan also did a "FT line lay up" against Cavs in 1989 playoffs?
Jordanhair 3 years ago
There are too many moves to remember. But I wouldn't be surprised.
hoopsencyclopedia 3 years ago
Find it.
this one
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=_f_etUhmAGQ
Jordanhair 3 years ago
it doesn't matter. MJ already has too many beautiful shots. And basically MJ is different from Dr.J. Their jump shot, dunk, lay up...all looks so different.
jimmychuang 2 years ago
@Jordanhair JOrdan did a finger roll like this against the pacers his first game back from his retirement
TheSfgiants83 1 year ago
@Jordanhair he's done free throw line dunks in-game too.
datfunkyfresh 6 months ago
Only? Connie Hawkins, larger hands same style of game. Clyde Drexler, game like the Dr. and had large hands. And there are others too. I'm sure that Lebron's hands are as big as Jordan, but not like the Dr. Dr hand some extremely large hands.
epics7 2 years ago
@hoopsencyclopedia Connie Hawkins hand very large hands and use to finger roll often. Same with Wilt Chamberlin. And let's not forget the king of the Finger roll. George Gervin. He had the best.
epics7 8 months ago
@hoopsencyclopedia Nope. Connie Hawkins was the other. Connie has the largest of the group and Julius was next.
epics7 5 months ago