The Death of Christianity?

[audiotrax2000]

This is a REALLY intriguing video, and I love your style, but I have to say it was made unwatchable by the amatuer popping in your microphone. It would be worth it if you could redo the audio with a better delivery. Yes, I agree Christianty is falling apart at the seams, but man will never stop believing in/searching for God, because it is our nature.

[kynismos]

Islam is better, anyway.

[PresentAssassin]

when people becme educated they become atheist.... and so many teenagers raised in christianity are becoming atheist... who knows, there is hope for humanity

[Shadowfire285]

Yeah no more religion (:

[Roshea1956]

I don't believe Christianity is dying, it never will, Judiasm won't either, other "beliefs" will though, that I am sure of.

[meleezero]

religion is the worst mental disease mankind has ever faced....i look forward to the day when we find a cure

[99minerkc]

RELIGION has, is, will poison society with CONTROL of the masses, with GREED OF MONEY(ex: tv evangelists and mega churches), FEAR TACTICS of an eternal Hell if you don't convert! HOW LITERALLY PATHETIC and SAD!!

[TheGoldenWildcat]

@99minerkc How true it is!!-----How true it is!!!

[RastafariPoet]

@99minerkc

For you who think Religion is such a bad thing. I'd suggest taking a philosophy class. Perhaps that would open your mind.

[RastafariPoet]

Alot of christian churches provide positive futures for many of its people who attend or even dont attend. Although we still have many that do not, but not on a great scale. For one to know this - Is one who actually experienced and studied it. As I've sat in my grandmothers church and watched the entire place fill with positive energy preaching that everyone should be positive and etc. But remember God is first. For god whom they believe is the reason for our existence in the first place.

[99minerkc]

@RastafariPoet If you call ministers who encourage people to accept things by faith positive, well..... . On the other hand if ministers encouraged people to be skeptical, to examine testable EVIDENCE such as scientists do before accepting something, FAR LESS people would be living life in a delusion!! I'm sorry but there's simply no empirical evidence which supports a god/jesus(or any deity)as anything more than myth! Why don't you believe in Zeus? The evidence is the same as jesus!

[RastafariPoet]

@99minerkc ...Wow...

[RastafariPoet]

@99minerkc

P.S I don't believe in a myth (You just used faith). I believe in a pantheistic God.

[99minerkc]

@RastafariPoet So, you have "faith" in pantheistic god? Why?

[RastafariPoet]

@99minerkc

In some small chance.. Our entire perception of reality could be completely different. In some SMALL chance. We could have some man deep from space controlling everything with invisible strings for all we know, We could be in a kids shoe box for all we know. However, I believe in Pantheism.. due to thats what seems most logical to me. I have faith in science to point to me which is reality. Therefore, Nature has been proven by us, that it is our God.

[99minerkc]

@RastafariPoet Well, I don't know how man came to be, BUT as far as I'm concerned it was via any personal god! I hope scientists are able via the scientific method to show us these last big questions someday, They've done outstanding so far!

[Nickspasic]

Islam's ideology explanes this perfectly!

Heaven, a reward for good, and hell a punishment for wickedness, are eternal and this is important to those who think about the future. In this world which is a test for us, Evil must exsist for good to exsist! Good can only come from what is previously bad. So in this life thanks to god we have Evil so that we can make good out of it thus be rewarded with paradise. Evil exsists because of human limitations and satan, and good comes from God!

peace!

[lordalastor99]

If good comes from what is previously bad, then Satan must be (or eventually be) good. Furthermore, in Islam, Hell is not eternal. Sinners are only there until their debt is paid. Only in Christianity is Hell eternal.

[thegoochieguy]

we will see the general end of christianity in our lifetimes.

[JMehrman]

How so?

There will be increase in my opinion.

[kukulza]

there are a set of correlations which relate faith and the quality of human life.

as human life gets harder, faith increases.

as humans age, the likelihood for faith increases within the individual.

as the risk of death increases, faith increases.

as those above decrease, faith decreases.

what does this mean? that most people *use* faith not *believe* in faith.

so whether it will increase or decrease depends, in America at least, on how the war and economy turn out.

[kukulza]

will we see the end of christianity soon? no.

ever? no.

why?

exactly for the reason i stated previously. people will forever use religion (in this case christianity) to dampen the hardships of reality and to explain what, to them, cannot be explained or rationalized.

although.... will the Christian church end soon? possibly. the church has never been a meaningful institution and it does nothing but suck money/talent/time/space/etc... away from the rest of humanity. so it *might* end.

[JMehrman]

Will we eventually die? Of course

Do we all know what sort of afterlife we will be entering for all time? No, not all .... but SOME of us do ..

You can rationalize it until you're blue in the face but it will NOT change any believer's mind, heart, or spirit. Your "logic" will also not save you from the dark and lonely agony of Hell.

Wake up!! Before it's to late!

[kukulza]

i don't desire to change anybody's heart, mind, spirit, whatever. i seek only to inform people of the possibilities of reality.

you have no proof for your belief and we have no evidence against it (except another belief. but subjective evidence can't beat subjective evidence, so the fight is meaningless).

you tell me to wake up, i tell you to stop wasting time. you say hurry before it's too late, i say you lack respect for the way reality works.

it won't save me? i beg to differ.

[Brine1206]

Your mixing faith with fact and love and devotion with fear. Hell and Heaven are true to you, but not everybody has faith in what is true to you.

It's better to trust a man who acts kindly for the sake of acting kindly rather than one who believes in (and fears rather than loves) god to save his own ass. May we all wake up and move past these false religions!

[drdash8]

woldn;t surpirse me if it decreased a lot in the west, but in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and eastern europe it is skyrocketing.

[frballz]

Death of Christianity? I'm not complaining.

[CelphaFiael]

Yeah I wouldn't shed tear.

[Gatescrusher716]

@frballz

Me neither. I also don't miss slavery and the subjugation of women. Progress is yummy...

[CelphaFiael]

haha...

You have 1 subscriber.

Your name on your channel is "poopoo face".

You're 19.

You have two videos, a two-star and a one-star. And that one-star has ~29,000 views.

It is therefore impossible to think of your comments or existence here as significant in any way. You have zero credibility because, simply put, no one cares about what you have to say. I'd advise you to try to act like other people as much as you can, because damn, this isn't working out for you.

[Gatescrusher716]

@CelphaFiael  Wow, you're dick. You MUST be a Christian!

[fluocantus]

I've watched 30 seconds of this and already hate the quality. Lame, corny shots with the candle thing. And come on man, don't you realize that you're talking too close to the mic?

Now I'll watch the rest.

This is a horrible attempt to make an educated and artistic video. Go crawl in a hole and die, maybe god will keep you company.

[jasonjarvis1988]

Now with a partical accelorator which apparently proves the big bang theory,further more people disrigard christianity.I'm an athiest but gotta believe theres something going on to stop christianity

[3ballard]

Dying? It certainly looks like that from the European side of the "pond". Perhaps there will be a big revival, but that's what would be necessary to prevent near extinction. Those that don't wish to see this death, send some missionaries!

Right now young people consider it a huge embarrassment & desperately uncool to be a christian. Not so young muslims; for muslims being more devout than one's parents is seen as a way of showing pride in one's identity and heritage.

[kukulza]

you also die for trying to leave the muslim faith. that might have something to do with their consistency or strengthening... maybe. also... missionaries? who hasn't heard of the bible and what is preaches. if christianity is dieing now that's because people aren't believing in it anymore now that sufficient evidence for another theory is being constantly evolved through tangible means. the same means that also bring everybody the wonderful technology they enjoy daily.

[womensman87]

It is obvious that christianity is not true but it is also obvious that if we are to have a religion the ancient beliefs is what you should look for just open your chakras and meditate.

[kukulza]

i like that idea. if we have to go with a religion lets go with one with some actual benefits. heavily mediation based religions result in a sound mind and body which allows for unparalleled concentration and focus. more beneficial then metaphorical cannibalism and vampirism as well as the most successful anti-open-mindedness ploy in the history of mankind.

[DavidRandallCurtis]

five stars!

[tapdawg9]

I am a christian. I am fully content being christian. I'm not saying there haven't been times I have sinned. I'm very sure that I sin most every day. But Jesus' death offers all of us who sin a chance to be redeemed. This redemption saves us from hell. I hope you all find the way (there is only one way) to heaven (there is only one heaven).

[kukulza]

did anyone ever question the multiple-ness or not of heaven? anyway... being christian is by no measure the problem. it's the amazing level of close-mindedness that christianity imparts on a child's mind while developing, if not taught alongside a reasonable second option. it's not something arguable that of all the people on earth christians are second best for likelihood of being close-minded (behind muslims and their "believe or die" brutish hell).

[LetsStabSomeoneOK]

1. The cookies are too high for us to reach.

2. Strip down the heavy philosophy and shoot straight.

3. The longest journey is from the head to the heart.

4. Do not "glamorize" philosophical musings... it's kinda irritating.

5. Read less, "study" more.

6. Become a fool, that you may be wise.

[UrsaMinor12]

you're scary

[tomio145]

WARNING RELIGION KILLS

[bwoodplayer64]

actually atheism has killed more people than religion has... for instance world war 2, the Russians during and after world war 2 these are a few so you should probably stop commenting unless you know what your talking about

[tomio145]

your talking about the russian church, " you should probably stop commenting unless you know what your talking about "

[reflectionist]

God has a kill count of over 2 million in the Bible. Compared to Satan's 10 (with God's permission). I wouldn't be too quick to play the "god is innocent" card.

[kukulza]

lets have more fun, lets talk percents. God in the old testament killed every human and animal that walked on land except for what fit on a human-made and thusly human-size-limited boat. which i hear is some number of animals and 8? humans. if he only left 8... after 1000years was it? of human propagation.... even at only a pop. inc. of 1 per year that's 1000people alive then. he killed 99% of humans on the earth at that time... that's disgusting beyond any atheist kill percent.

[m2mfan4eva]

He created them in the first place, and he killed them because they were full of sin, murder, etc. Only 8 people came on board because they chose to be on the boat. Everyone was warned, but they rejected the boat (life). So, they basically chose it.

[kukulza]

parents create their child. do they kill their child? no. because that's wrong. God isn't subject to any different rules of morality than we are.

they were warned? they rejected the boat? where the hell does it say that? please. quote the Bible passage (don't type the passage. i have a bible. i'll read it myself. just gimme the place in the bible where you read this)

[m2mfan4eva]

I'll message you since there's a limit.

[PlatypusofCalifornia]

Very true.

I am a theist and this is an excellent statement you've made here. We only need to look back on history to see the truth in this...despite some of the...questionable natures of such interactions.

But ultimately what you say is very true, faith is enhanced by doubts and questions, when it stands in the face of such things, there is some kind of intellectual or spiritual profoundity that has been added. That is if the believer is not a zealot.

This is true for both sides.

[lamibydesign]

*Applauds*

Oh, and stop smoking that crap, we don't want you dieing to young ;-)

[0PhantomShadow0]

I also don't like forcing the Bible down people's throat,that's just wrong. I mean I'm not the smartest person in the world,and I really don't think I'm fit to be preaching this stuff to people,mainly because I'm not 100% perfecto at holding to it myself,so what room do I have to tell someone else to? I think you should just live how you want to and be free to make the decisions you make in life. I just have my beliefs,and if I'm wrong in the end,oh well,at least I know I enjoyed the life I had.

[0PhantomShadow0]

Basically I'm just open to everything...everyone's idea and opinion and I'm not gonna argue with them because I know they will always have a point and a good reason for whatever they believe in,I'd hope they would at least if they're believing in it. Some people don't even know what the point of Christianity IS...which only gives me an even BIGGER headache.

[0PhantomShadow0]

To be honest,I agree with you alot. And I can't really say I'm a ''Christian'' because I believe in God but I don't really believe in the followers of Him...there's too many hypocritical Christians and false prophets that it's really no wonder you have as many Atheists as you do today. They call Atheists idiots for shutting out God...but to be honest it's them shutting out an open idea or a possibility,ya know? Like since when is it a crime to have an opinion or just be open minded?

[PlatypusofCalifornia]

It is always discouraging when you have idiots on your side. In every kind of situation :), and this holds for theological beliefs as well. I know exactly what you're saying.

[StephanieLexis]

I don't believe that a MAJOR religion can die (i.g. Christianity, Judiasm, Islam, Muslim, Catholicism, etc.) Perhaps Scientology would, but b/c it's controversial and many look down upon it. But then again, there's controversy for every religion. I respect people's religious beliefs, even if I disagree with them.

[Bondomusic]

I saw the annotations, and was thinking about subscribing, then i saw this...

Hit the subscribe button right away =). Nice speech, very good points.

[lostintravise]

"If Christianity is dying, then it dies smiling for it knows that its elements which you strive to eradicate will simply change hands, and that belief in the supernatural will never cease"

I don't think it dies smiling. Christianity and its God (in their purest and most common form) are very selfish. They only want you to believe in their God. Christianity is going to die grimacing.

Good video btw

[durge666]

I was gonna subscribe after I saw that conducting with annotations video, but now, I don't think I will.

[CelphaFiael]

Wait wait, don't go. Lemme take this down so you can subscribe, I will just as soon as I can find where I put that "I give a shit, I really do."

[durge666]

I just don't like any religious crap

[CelphaFiael]

Nah that's cool I was just playin. Take care.

[lostintravise]

"I don't like any religious crap"

a translation..

"I don't like thinking"

blah, blah

[durge666]

what does blind faith have to do with thinking??

[Cliner97]

Let us for conversationsake say Jesus did live, let us even say that all the words and teachings attributed to him are correctly written. That frankly is even worse for Christians because the man then was himself a hypocrite and an apostate as well as those others who wrote the gospels after him. They absolutely mangled referenced OT scriptures, and Jesus contradicted himself in several instances in or out of the context, made no difference.

[Cliner97]

If the 'devil' has taken the Bible and mixed things up, corrupted it etc, then who do you suggest we listen to to straighten out the mess, you? That seems to be the attitude whenever Christians even indirectly admit their Bible is full of holes. Of fine, we agree there are problems, the devil has done this, but we are here to show you the way and right translations etc. And we are 'inspired' by Jeebus so we know what we're talking about and it's all 100% true. Get real.

[Vektruscen]

Modern science has already proven Christianity wrong, it's just a matter of time before the brainwashed public catches on. But it's hard to argue reason with people who have been brainwashed from birth.

[gariadara]

modern science hasn't proven Christianity wrong. how can science prove or disprove spiritual things? don't give me evolution/old earth examples, the bible never said those things don't exist.

[Vektruscen]

The Bible clearly states as a 'fact' that the universe is 6,000 years old. Science shows the universe is actually 15 billion years old. The evidence for this is so overwhelming you'd have to be a fool to discard it. Hence why Creationism is literally a joke in the scientific community.

[gariadara]

Umm, but you see, The Bible never states anything about how old the earth is. find me the number of 6000 anywhere in the book. where are you people getting this info? fred phelps?

[Vektruscen]

From Wikipedia's Creationism article: 'Such beliefs include young Earth creationism, proponents of which believe that the earth is thousands rather than billions of years old.'

[gariadara]

Why did you somehow skip over entries like "Old Earth Creationism" or "Theistic Evolution" on that same wikipedia article?

[Vektruscen]

Because Theistic Evolution has no ground to stand on?

EVERY Christian creationist I've ever talked to believes in a Young Earth (probably because of where I live, they're a bit slow around here). I've never spoken with anyone who believes in the Bible but also in evolution. Do you?

[gariadara]

Interesting. I believe you've just been around the wrong crowd. I'm a Christian. I believe in the Bible. I'm also an evolutionary biologist. I also have many colleagues who are Christians. Evolution isn't a belief, I don't have to "believe" in it. Theistic evolution stands IMO. Though not the way some people tend to define it.

[Vektruscen]

So what kind of evidence to support Christianity have you found in your studies?

[gariadara]

For me, it is mostly philosophical reasoning (God and Christ makes sense in a particular philosophical thought), historical evidence (historical records of Old and New Testament events), personal observation of the world and experience, DNA, intricacies of biochemistry, even evolution itself. And Christianity is a life philosophy and sociologically, I observe that it works and makes sense you can't really find evidence for philosophy).

[gariadara]

And if you are talking about evidence for the existence of God, there isn't scientific evidence or data. That is not a possibility until God shows up Himself and says: measure my wavelength and resonance frequency. However, it can be deduced that since things exist, a concept of the Creator is allowed by basic reasoning.

[Vektruscen]

'it can be deduced that since things exist, a concept of the Creator is allowed by basic reasoning' Yes, of course that makes logical sense, but the problem is, that creator is clearly not present in our personal lives, protecting us and watching over us. That's just silly. Christianity is 100% false.

[gariadara]

"that creator is clearly not present in our personal lives, protecting us and watching over us."

First, you don't know that. Second, Christianity never said that God "protects" us and "watches over" us physically. That's not what a Personal God means. Where did you get the idea? Touched By An Angel?

[Vektruscen]

Actually I do know that. Just looking around at the cruelty found in nature and among humans is evidence of no loving creator watching over us.

Every Christian I've ever talked to believes their God is present in their lives at all times, and that through prayer they will be granted God's divine help and protection. But then again, these are people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old, so..

[gariadara]

You're talking about cruelty in general. what about the specific? I also look about in the world and I see a lot of good and beauty, in nature, and in mankind. And what is your definition of cruelty and loving-ness? Good and bad? Most people think that "good" is what makes them happy, or safe. But if you think about it, that is a very narrow definition of "good."

[lostintravise]

@gariadara

Cruelty in general? What other cruelty is there? If there is a general cruelty there HAS to be a specific cruelty.

Now you're playing a game of semantics.. which isn't the argument he's bringing up at all. The black and white is that cruel things have happened and cruel things are happening now. The main proponents of Christianity that God is influencing the physical around them.. aka,

"I found 10 dollars on the floor! Thank you God!"

but that obviously can't be proven.

[lostintravise]

@gariadara cont.

Back to my point.. cruel things are happening now and a purportedly loving and caring God wouldn't allow atrocities to the extent that they've happened occur.

[gariadara]

"cruel things are happening now and a purportedly loving and caring God wouldn't allow atrocities to the extent that they've happened occur."

That is an assumption of so many things. It's assuming the concept of utopia is good for us. It's assuming that not allowing "atrocities to occur..." is being "loving and caring" on God's part. It's assuming that our free will isn't worth its chance, etc...IMO

[gariadara]

"The main proponents of Christianity that God is influencing the physical around them.."

Nope. That depends on the denomination and the specific school of theology. I would say God influences the physical when it is a time of spiritual importance, a nexus in history if you will. Otherwise, there is nothing in doctrine that says God does anything to interfere with His own physical laws. People merely attribute all things to God.

[gariadara]

Christians believe that God is present in their lives spiritually. God is active in the realm of Thought and Spirit. There is no doctrine says through prayer God will "protect" or "help" one physically according to what one wants by default. That is a complete misconception of Christianity. God HAS ALREADY "helped" in the ultimate way by pardoning all our sins through Christ.

[gariadara]

Saying God is not "present" in a spiritual way or in some abstract primordial sense is not something you can test scientifically. It is an opinion and so is the opposite perspective, but it does not make either perspective "silly" or "false," just fundamentally different.

[lostintravise]

@gariadara

See, it's not a "perspective" when you're pushing your beliefs apon someone. I understand the perspective pitch if you're finding your own God ("Personal God") but main-stream Religions does not allow you to do that. By forcing themselves into schools and into governments it's obviously no longer a personal thing. This whole opinion/perspective thing is weak. because the only point of it is to stalemate the arguments -- which ultimately does nothing.

[gariadara]

well I wouldn't call it "forcing" themselves into school and government, rather, trying to STAY there. Christianity has always been a backbone of our society. Now more than ever, it's being driven out, and it's trying desperately to hold on to things it's losing. I agree that God was not a personal thing, He was a universal thing which is now being turned into a personal one and those who are still holding on to the universal quality of God are acting in a reactionary way.

[gariadara]

as for the "perspective" thing....uh, sorry, I forgot what the heck I was talking about before so I haven't the foggiest what your rebuttal is about, lol.

[Bondomusic]

Nothing can be 100% false, falsity must exist off a base of truth, so there must be something of it that is true. No?

[Vektruscen]

Sure, but the same can be said about every other religion, ever.

[gariadara]

If you are really interested in the subject of finding "clues" so to speak of the existence of a Theistic God. I suggest you read a book written by Francis S. Collins (head of the Human Genome Project, Geneticist, Chemist) called The Language of God. The book is simply one scientist's explanation of why he can accept religion. It sums up a lot of the things I agree with. In my own experience, the choice of faith in God is based first on a self opinion of what I see in the universe.

[PeaceLoveAbby]

On a side note: perhaps a shift from symbolic religion to ultimate reality? I'm not sure.

[PeaceLoveAbby]

And so, history has seen Christianity progress from Paulistic Catholicism, to Martin Luther's revolutionary Protestant movement, to the Reform Church's Puritan belief system, and all that lies in between. What one sees is a pattern of disagreement and conflict between which god-figure is right, and now civilization has reached the point of god vs. no higher diety whatsoever.

Granted, theism will not die out any time soon, but I believe we are on the brink of a large religious shift in society.

[PeaceLoveAbby]

We see not only a death of Christianity in modern society (besides the ever-strong Capitalist Reform Church... blech), but the death of strict ritual and document based theism as a whole. You make a fine point; the reason is not to prove one or the other entirely wrong, but to continuously question what is already stated and find answers to the inquiries we have. Expansion, discovery, and extention is key. Pretending that a human knows all the answers is ridiculous...

[Cliner97]

No Christianity is not dying, just changing yet again even though the 'god' it worships claims that he and his word change not, Christianity has changed radically and many times over the centuries. It's a bogus religion insofar as claiming its truth to be universal but not at all bogus for those who believe in it. Point is, your god is not my god and as for me, I wish simply to live free to believe how I choose, no need to prosyletize.

[Vektruscen]

That's a good point. We're already seeing it evolve- 'Intelligent Design' is Christianity's desperate attempt to keep its hold over people in today's world.

[gariadara]

Well, history is ongoing, so is knowledge. When we discover something new about the universe, it is simply something in the universe. Just because the Bible didn't say anything about the process by which the Grand Canyon formed doesn't mean the whole Bible is pointless. The Bible didn't mention giraffes either. Christianity is not the Word of God. Christianity changes, the Word does not. Just how people interpret it based on new-found knowledge. The core meaning of the Bible remains unchanged.

[TogetherForPeace]

great stuff man.

[sorienor]

"The most perfect point of theist/atheist debate is not to rid one side from the burdensome existence of the other, but to enhance each other."

When does the debate end? How about when one or side runs out of arguments?

Theists ran out of arguments centuries ago. Science fines new ones every day.

After debating for more then a quarter century, I have to say the debate is over. Theists lose. Why should I keep debating the same thing over and over with each new theist that comes along?

[CelphaFiael]

There's little doubt that theistic arguments are severely lagging in the philosophical literature. To answer your question, the debate doesn't end, there will always be room for the belief in the supernatural, and inference from history leads us to suspect people will always occupy that room. Having said that, the belief might not always be popular.

I'd say that in my opinion as well the theists have lost, but I resist the presuppositions that (1) there is a ceiling and (2) we've reached it.

[sorienor]

After 26 years of meaningless babble and threats of eternal damnation from Christians I no longer have an desire to consider what any of them has to say. There is a ceiling, you just haven't reached it yet. But you will. Ask yourself how many times will you have to hear "you're going to hell" before you stop listening?

Unless something new comes along (and stuff like veritas48 defining god into existence doesn't count) I will no longer debate, There is nothing to debate. God is just pretend.

[twonyx]

You are not "going to hell" you will just not reach your goal of true enlightenment and togetherness with the collective until you find what your soul is longing to experience. No problem, you can have as many "do overs" as you need. If not in this life then the next or the next.

[twonyx]

Voltaire(1694 - 1778) said, "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."

My question is why would it be necessary? Is it because our souls are still connected to God and therefore the need we have stems from something very real within us?

[sorienor]

Prove there is such a thing as a soul.

Or is it because we have a genetic predisposition to try and explain our surroundings and a lack of knowledge results in creation of explanations out of nothing?

[twonyx]

The soul weighs 21 grams in all test subjects from infant to large adult. Snopes it.

[sorienor]

You really should read the whole Snopes article not just the headline.

His experiments were flawed and have never been repeated.

[twonyx]

Very nice. I would fall into the anti-atheists with an open mind and an ever changing view of God. By the study of Quantum Physics and the reading of Conversations with God; I see God in a different light than most believers. I have experienced Hell and I have felt God's presence. I am constantly exploring both science and philosphy. My understanding is growing and yet is still in it's early stages of developement.

[sorienor]

Have you ever considered that those 'experiences' were simply not real?

Experience is the least useful tool to determine truth because experience can easily be confused with dreams and delusions.

[twonyx]

The study of Quantum Physics can make everything in this world less than "real." For example, are thoughts real? What is a thought? You can't see it, touch it or measure it. But, you know you think and you know a thought is a very real thing.

[sorienor]

Real and physical are two different things.

Addition is real but you can't see addition, you can't touch or measure it, but you do it every day.

[pacoslovestacos]

Christianity is dying from all the flaws it has

ppl see these flaws and start to dihope and slowly stray to another path and therefore more ppl leave it slowly killing the religion

[BleSsedMusliM]

interesting...i love the little passage you quoted! and you have great writing skills

[cfultziii]

That is my exact point. Why would someone need a dictionary while listening to someone give a speech!!!!

[CelphaFiael]

In that instance, you wouldn't need a dictionary, just an education. Here though, I am reciting a short essay, which you have a read-along transcript to. It is not a speech.

I'll still send you the dictionary, because unfortunately for us both, I can't send you the education you would need to find something of value in this.

[Clutchology]

Celpha, when the best criticism someone has of your work is the grandiloquence of your writing style (which is actually a compliment) you know you've truly accomplished something.

Great video, by the way! I'm working on one now which reflects a very similar sentiment.

[CelphaFiael]

Thanks clutch, I appreciate the words. I'm interested in this next video of yours, maybe we could pair up; either this as a reply to yours or yours as a reply to mine! What say you?

[Clutchology]

Well, it's a while coming yet. I've got one on the way beforehand. I think I'll have it ready in about two weeks (I'm a slouch with editing). But when I do, that sounds like a great idea! We could post them as responses to each other. Maybe I can direct a few more people to this video in the process ;)

[clutchologie]

@clutch omg i know. i hate when people criticize my grandiloquence and ignore the meat. speaking of meat. is your meat pink?

do you have a pink hole?

[clutchologie]

@clutch i love you so much. you're soooo pretty and pale. even in summer. god bless you baby. thanks for doing the shirtless vid like i asked.

[cfultziii]

If you speak to those who are already in your field of thinking, then what value is there in what you say. You cannot convince someone of a truth they already subscribe to, but you can try to convice someone of a "truth" you know when the other person is not of the same thinking.

And by you getting offending by my speaking of the truth, that tells me that your highly acclaimed critical thinking achieved through your education is faulty. Life is more than knowing the words of a dictionary.

[CelphaFiael]

...what? That made zero sense.

And "offended" is just the wrong word to choose. "Amused" would have been more fitting, for two reasons: firstly, I pwned you already, and secondly, you have the self-importance to think that you've offended me with your statements! Don't make me lol.

[cfultziii]

as your collocations are addressed particularly to those supercilious in their adroit to noetic which you give in non-effectuated lexicals....blah blah blah

What value is there in what you speak? Do you make a point by your big words? I think what you said was that monkeys do not drive cars. Put, I could be afield in this statement.

[CelphaFiael]

I'll send you a dictionary and a guide to comprehending the english language for your birthday.

[gogreen18]

You are so badass it's ridiculous.

[Cimbolic]

By the way, what book does that passage come from?

[CelphaFiael]

The Revolution of Everyday Life by Raoul Vaneigem. Virtually no one has heard of it and it's a shame! I bet you would adore it.

[Cimbolic]

I will definitely obtain a copy. It's too intriguing to pass up.

Thanks, Celpha!

[Cimbolic]

Just ordered the book from Amazon!

[CelphaFiael]

Excellent, maybe when you get done with it you can help me decipher what it is actually trying to say! The book, to me, is like listening to a beautiful song that's in a foreign language; it is _gorgeously_ written but I'm still not at all sure what the overall message is. =P

[Cimbolic]

Sounds like a good plan, Celpha. Let's do that.

BTW, Rilke wrote a book on Orpheus, and I could not understand it. Until I started singing it. Then for some reason I was able to understand it. How appropriate for a book on Orpheus!

[Cimbolic]

Exemplary writing, Celpha!

[themarinebiologist]

***** for creativity as well as great music and statements!

[msnomer71]

great visuals celpha

[reflectionist]

I'm stunned. I have no choice but to favorite this. You (and Raoul Vaneigem) said exactly what I've been attempting to say, except more clearly, and more succinctly than I ever have. Thanks for this, Celpha. I'm serious.

Especially considering that one of my closest Christian friends called me a "false prophet," then an "antichrist" in church. Thanks again, man.

[Bodobaas]

Celpha, what music is this?

[CelphaFiael]

Both tracks are from the Aphex Twin ablum Drukqs; the first is called "Kladfvgbung Micshk" and the second is called "Orban Eq Trx4".

[TheReaderReport]

It's important for both atheists and theists to avoid an "us and them" mentality

[CelphaFiael]

Agreed. Taken to its logical conclusion, that mentality becomes "me vs everyone".

[Bernd1964]

All oriental religions are part of an religious, intellectual and social hegemony of ancient empires. Their main objective is to exert a social and mental force by scaring and controlling people. Priests demand access to young human brains to be able to programe subconscious religious mindsets, that's why the victims of religious beliefs often never realize their mental prisons once they are locked in.

I would love to be a witness of the end of christianity and all other oriental religions.

[reflectionist]

Ahhhhhhhh, for all the times I wish I had comprehension at 4 AM... I'll have to watch tomorrow, Celpha.

[thinkmorepink]

Oooooh, you hit my soft spot with the style in this video. Aesthetics are one of my favorite things, and the way you crafted this was brilliant. Your ideas are well thought out as well. Brilliant. Five stars m'love. :)

[CelphaFiael]

There is definitely some Shan influence in there. =)

[illuminated1WUN1]

whose deistic spirits will from that moment on without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time - Albert Pike 1871

[Bodobaas]

33rd degree mason and founder of the kkk, among other things.

[illuminated1WUN1]

Soon we shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists and provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity...

[Bodobaas]

Much insight to be gleaned on the esoteric nature of religion in this evil bastard's tome, Morals and Dogma.

[sarabellumm]

I have trouble seeing its death when Christianity is booming more than it has in centuries. The opening up of China, Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union to Christianity means more people are becoming Christian than at any point in our lifetimes. If you mean in the USA and Western Europe, then maybe atheism is flourishing some, but not worldwide.