where was he wrong? just because he bought the word religion? he said, audit the fed, he said dont inflate the currency, you leave all that and hang on to Religion. How typical "American".
Look Jerk off, I'm not a Christian but this message is about being moral and ethical. A person and a government needs to operate that way or we wind up where we are today. Fine you're anti-bible, but if you think he's off the mark because he's referring to people acting ethically then you my friend have lost your way.
Anti-Christians love acting like they know what they're talking about. Those Bible references are clearly taken out of context if you actually know anything about Christianity. First of all, none of those people were forced to sell their possessions for the common good. Secondly, they were members of the Church committing acts of charity. No one else outside the church (or even in the church for that matter) was required to sell their possessions, by any law or any command. It was discretionary.
As it stands now, people are forced to pay for medicare and medicaid and the new upcoming Obamacare. It's not discretionary. They're being forced. It's not charity. It's a tax. You're stealing from someone to give to someone else. We're admonished, as Christians, to be charitable. But we're not forced into it, or else it's not truly charity. I'm certain Jesus and any of the Apostles would be against theft, even if you were trying to benefit someone through that act of theft. It's still theft.
@tanksbb When I said our economic policies are based upon Marxist economics are was clearly referring to communists. "Free market" capitalism is clearly not based upon Marxism it is based upon primitivism and destroying the achievements of the past hundred years in order to transform us into primitive savages who rely on "the purest form of bartering" like we did several centuries ago.
@tanksbb Our economic policies are based on Marxist economics. Marx was German so our economic policies aren't primarily North Korean or Chinese. On the other hand, the Austrian school of economic thought is essentially primitivist. Austrian economists seek to eliminate the gains that societies have made over the past hundred years and return to a primitive chaotic society like early capitalism. Even if they succeed in their primitivist goals, statist society will develop again.
@tanksbb Austrian economics is a load of bourgeois idealist hogwash based on using a pre-scientific epistemology. Shouldve known all the Paultards would come out of the woodwork to spew this crap...
I'm no 'christian' but i'm sure if Jesus were here today he'd verbally rape every candidate but ron.
He was a socialist who rebelled against the hypocritical religious elite and promoted empathy and understanding. Everyone grooves with jesus whether criminal or king and Ron Paul will be neither but he will be honest and fair. He may have some far out policy but in office his common sense will prevail as he works with the people for the people.
You Maoists are really making me upset. I know we got the 1st Amendment and all but if you guys had your way we wouldn't have the Constitution any more or be able to dissent against your tyrannical ideology.
@donnie1805 Link didn't work. Anyways, I imagine it's a piece of totalitarian garbage. It doesn't matter how much I agree with a person's line of thinking, but if they impose it on everyone else then that officially makes it bullshit.
@1337wafflezz not really try putting a triple w before the link
the fact that your making a judgment before even knowing and even taking a look just shows that your a part of the people who thwarted the advancement of society
"Citizens of the USSR have the right to take part in the management and administration of state and public affairs and in the discussion and adoption of laws and measures of All-Union and local significance."
"Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited."
Ron Paul has an interesting approach here, and I think the maker of this video purposefully misunderstood it.
The bible can be interpreted in many different ways, and certainly "thou shalt not bear false witness" <-- one of the ten commandments is a statement against fraud.
Ron Paul is trying to sway the religious people to agree with his Libertarian economics by noting that the bible can be interpreted that way.
Basically, fighting against the church's brainwashing using their own tools
not long ago it was a good thing for a president to be God fearing. Now we want atheists in office? By all means lets elect ppl that are at least up front about having no moral foundation. Don't bother to comment back I won't respond.
he never said the bible restricts central banks, this maoist guy is pretty delusional. he's saying the good values (for example being honest with weights and measures) taught in the bible should be applied in our society. furthermore, he said only gold and silver is legal tender UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. he never said "the bible prohibits central banks". stop distorting the facts!
if ron paul established an economy based on the bible.. It will cause chaos to the people.. Not all people in the u.s are "Christians"...By the way jason is right .. And he use liberation theology.. Hahah ... Just kidding.... Solidarity from the philippines
You shall not have in your bag differing weights, a large and a small. You shall not have in your house differing measures, a large and a small. You shall have a full and just weight; you shall have a full and just measure, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the LORD your God gives you.
This is the quote Paul was talking about with the just measures. Not that I agree with him about the bible, I do know sound monetary policy. He is for that. I am for him
STFU, Jason. You're losing credibility quickly speaking negatively about Ron Paul. Out of all Presidential Candidates, Ron Paul is DEFINITELY the lesser evil.
lol the politics aren't supposed to be sect or religious based. politics have NOTHING to do with faith or religiousness. if you relate politics with religion, you're no better than the kings of medieval Europe and should be killed as slowly as possible.
You got to be careful about our politicians, whatever they talk about or whoever they are!
When Obama got elected, I was thrilled with that, and I was even more thrilled when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize!
Today, after looking back to everything Obama did as USA president, I find that I was naive in trusting he would be a honest person...—Take a look at the video running on my profile, and you´ll see why I say that!
YOU KNOW, THE MAOIST REBEL COULD NOT BE MORE RIGHT!...
And is an economy based on the neo-utopian fantasy that economic scarcity will magically vanish (keyword: covered up) under a "dictatorship of the proletariat" any better?
This guy is stupendously retarded, RP was referring to The parable in Matthew 25:14-30. A CLEAR endorsement of paying people according to their worth, responsible use of money and rewards of greater wealth for doing so. The cherry-picked verse this commie chose is also interesting... how could those wealthy people commit such charity if they had not created that wealth to begin with?
And believe it or not, many enormously successful people take lessons about money from the BIBLE.
@consolitech Maybe the country is in the shitter BECAUSE all of the rich and powerful are a bunch of uneducated selfish retards who take advice from 2,000 year old fairy tales.
I didn't come here to have a barking contest with some right-wing monkey, so farewell.
Of course not. you are smart to avoid a losing battle. I mean look at your last statement:"Maybe the country is in the shitter BECAUSE all of the rich and powerful are a bunch of uneducated selfish retards who take advice from 2,000 year old fairy tales." Didn't your commie buddy try to show that the Bible encourages socialism???
Bail-outs, bloated well-fare and wasteful debt are not exactly biblical ideals. Tell me, what biblical economics are responsible for the economy?
Wow, you really like your red propoganda. But maybe your biased because socialism and Ron Paul's views are completely different ECONOMY wise. He is very much for individual choice like gay marriage, abortion, free speech, unmonitored internet, and anti-police state. (Look up Spanish inquisition). Paul strongly believes in a free-market unregulated system tho so it is quite contradictory towards your beliefs.
Oh. Feel free to swear at me, call me stupid, dumb, fucker, etc. you do in other vids
Oh, I see. So, a country doesn't work if it does not have morals and religious values. Glad you cleared that up, Dr. Paul. Next comes the easy part - deciding on WHICH morals and WHICH religious values to have among a population of 312,920,000 people. Good luck!
One of the few things I find appalling about the man. Gives the Libertarian ideals a bad taste in everyones mouth. Im a Libertarian, I love Ron Paul but his religious point of view makes me want to punch myself in the face.
As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?
-- John Adams, letter to FA Van der Kamp, December 27, 1816
John Adams like many of our Founding Fathers was a Deist , Ron Paul can go fuck himself, why is it OK for him to insult us Atheists ? Why is it okay for him to lie ?
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."
If you covet my wife, but I covet your ox and donkey can we make a trade?
@MrJohnnada how about you go fuck yourself satanist/christian, pacifist/warlord, ....(insert more contradictory titles here) asshole!!! No seriously dude go find out what yours talking about before attempting to insult someone. Stop pwning yourself.
@sunnyboyX89 Libertarians are the ultimate in transforming yourself into thinking like a inhuman robot. If there's a market for cannibalizing old grandparents to be sold as hamburger meat (for profit of course) the libertarians would be the first to jump onto that idea and support it as long as it makes money for them.
lol, let's trust a desert book made two thousand years ago on modern day economics in a country hundreds of miles away from the holy land, and made by authors who really didn't know shit about economics, only about telling good stories.
What could possibly go wr- oh wait, French Revolution. T__T
god have noting to do with the politics of men, thus, the bible is not a political doctrine and god is the one who will end the kingdoms of men and crash the giant statue of men after the great depression. - it's in the revelation...
The fed is a conglomerate of PRIVATE Jewish BANKS, the fed must be abolish and the government issue money interest free, that would be according to the Bible or the Quran, I see no problem with that!
@sunnyboyX89 If the govt. collects the most percentage of revenue from the "rich", then the govt. has every incentive to make sure the "rich" have the majority of the money supply. Why help the poor if they only cost your money and you don't collect anything from them? Taxing the rich is a scam designed to put all the money in the hands of the rich so that the govt. can tax the "rich" after the rich tax the public in the form of uncompetitve prices. Bill Gates passes his tax to his customers
@sunnyboyX89 Ron Paul is advocating cutting spending, mostly on CORPORATE WELFARE bureaucracies, making corporate wlfare reciepients go bankrupt or reduce prices to what the public can afford. The corportations have taken over the govt., that is why we need to take away their ability to create money from nothing and give it to themselves, duh!
@sunnyboyX89 People that can create money from thin air and then pass it out to THEIR CHOICE of freinds and industry is NOT a form of "capitalisim", rather, it is a form of unelected central control that uses fake fiat money as its wepon of choice to discriminate. I didn't say we need a "efficient" govt. , I sad we need an EFFECTIVE govt., one that actually enforces the laws laid out by the Constitution! Ron Paul is trying to get ELECTED, therfore, he isn't against democratic elections.
@dlucas90 Even your antiquated gold economy would be infinitely superior to the contrived shit we have now. Put Thomas Jefferson in charge and all U.S. problems would be solved over night, and he'd also be the most notorious American "communist"...LoL. Hail Jefferson! Hail Liberty!
@sunnyboyX89 LoL. Exactly. He would also work to smash the Zionist banking wars. The U.S. state is merely a mechanism of transnational finance capital, so dissolve it and let workers fend for themselves. Our taxes only go to the most fit bourgeoisie anyway. Let Trump have his Benjis because the state uses them to exterminate brown people.
@sunnyboyX89 I agree that big business is a form of big govt. but I don't agree that big govt. prevents big business and neither does Ron Paul. What Paul is proposing is sound money, that cannot be created from nothing and then passed out through "govt." spending. Actually I think the terms "big govt." and "small govt." should be dropped since what we really need is an EFFECTIVE govt., a govt. which enforces tha laws of the land on EVERYONE, EQUALLY, which is what Paul is advocating.
Oh well, Bible takes 20% right off the top. 10% for the Priesthood and 10% to be left in the fields and on the trees for the widow, the orphan, the wayfarer, and the stranger. Then comes the King, God's appointed. Lookin like at least 30% to me.
@sewbuttns Send me all your gold. Understand now? Try getting pussy by writting an IOU on a piece of paper and offering it to the woman you desire. If that doesn't work offer the woman you desire some gold, a bota bing a bota boom!
@dlucas90 Getting off the gold standard was necessary for the US. The economy would have tanked if the gold standard was still in place. The real problem occurred when financial markets were deregulated.
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Nonsense, the gold standard was tinkered with in order to steal all the gold and leave us at the mercy of the people who create the money from nothing.
It all started in 1913 when Congress allowed a private central bank to create American currency from debt (thin air). Congress and other banks "borrowed" the monopoly money and paid it back with INTEREST FROM THE ORIGINAL MONEY SUPPLY OF GOLD AND SILVER. By 1971 there was not enough gold/silver left for the gold standard
@dlucas90 Well neither seeing as how I'm a female and I'm not gay, but I get your point. I still dont see why gold would be the thing to back money when gold itself isn't a utility and even though you can't make more of it the value does fluctuate since it doesnt have any concrete use value, or atleast I don't think it has very much.
@sewbuttns A currency can be backed with capital output of various kinds. Capital output overall is what mankind needs to maintain civilization, and gold is just a small fraction of capital production. A stable currency that is backed by industrial GDP is needed. Backing currency only with gold is yet another deluded financier scam that somehow became entangled with the affairs of the state due to intelligent people in government mimicking bankers. Bankers took it back...LoLs.
@PrimeConsciousness What do you suppose the GDP is backed by, units of labor, units of want or units of need? Backing the dollar with "industrial GDP" as meaningless as backing the paper dollar with paper bonds bought with paper dollars. Gold and silver privide a MEASURE BY WIEGHT to represent value. That means there can be some real math and science behind the monetary system.
@dlucas90 The Chinese don't back their currency with gold, and it maintains value just fine due to the world's demand for Chinese metals. Nothing mandates that gold is the resource to own them all. Fiat money itself began with Jew bankers scamming gentiles by giving them far more paper than gold in their vaults, and this paradigm would not be avoided just because government takes the place of the money masters. Humans use ALL metals, not just gold dumbass. Americans are doomed idiots.
@PrimeConsciousness No one is suggesting that the govt. should be able to put more paper in the hands of citizens than there is gold and silver it represents. There is a reason we use gold and silver as a monetary metal instead of steel or aluminum and that is because no one in therir right mind wants to carry $200 worth of steel coins to the fu@#ing grocery store. Gold and silver as money provides a back-stop to the creation of money from thin aior, that is what gives it value as a currency
@dlucas90 I totally sympathize with you and Ron Paul, but at the same time, you misunderstand the nature of a backed currency. The metals used to back a currency aren't carried around by the masses, rather they are stored in "commodity baskets" that trade partners BUY from. A constant fresh supply of metal/oil/coal/intellectual/etc commodity is needed. If you rely on only gold to print $, then gold is too large an economic sector and hinders printing in relation to paper asset demand.
@PrimeConsciousness I think it is you that still doesn't understand the beauty of gold backed money. It is precisely because gold is a limited commodity that makes it most appealing as a base for currency. That means that when the need for money exceeds the amount of gold in the money supply the VALUE of the EXISTING money supply INCREASES in purchasing power for EVERYONE. I know we have been brought up to think money should constantly lose value but that is the problem with inflation.
@dlucas90 That's exploiting a limited commodity to inflate your filthy Jew banker pockets. The age of fat finance feeders sitting around and assimilating capital due to scarcity is coming to an end, especially as more nations get nuclear weapons. The world will NOT tolerate America's dirty finance capital scams of hoarding gold in vaults and then making a killin' off the decrease in supply. Herr Hitler had more economic sense than you. Fuckin' moron Americans.
@PrimeConsciousness No stupid, limiting money to a limited supply means that bankers can't create their own money supply. It means everyone that has a paycheck will be able to buy more with their paychack as human progress makes manufacturing more efficient. It means the working class won't constantly be having to ask for a raise just to get back to the purchasing power they had the year before. It means employers can't just raise costs to customers and not give raises to their employees.
@dlucas90 I agree with everything you said, but you tether sound money to ONLY gold, which is antiquated. What happens when humanity is 20 billion plus and there's no more gold to continue any form of money printing to satisfy the demand? A limited money supply is needed for either government or bankers, but placing the paper money wall at the finite cap for earth gold resources would lead to -Ⓐ--Ⓐ--Ⓐ-!!!! The money supply must be finite in the short term, yet infinite in the long term.
@PrimeConsciousness You still don't get it. If the population were to double and the amount of gold & silver were to remain constant, the purchasing power of gold and silver would DOUBLE as well because the DEMAND for it would DOUBLE. You still think money should be created by someone and then handed out by central planners to who THEY, not demand, see fit., and guess what, the central planners who pass out money made from nothing NEVER pass it out fairly.
@dlucas90 This is all fine and dandy in the short term, but exponential human population growth throws a monkey wrench in that model believe it or not. This leads to money gaining ever more scarcity until it can no longer find its way to the workers. Economics is as simple as produce what you consume, and if you unbalance the scale toward consumption based on an ever more scarce and valuable commodity, then there will be a globl gov of the most fit money assimilators. U can't avoid elites...
@PrimeConsciousness Maybe if money isn't created from nothing, population growth would be slowed. Just because you produce more paper money to go around doesn't mean there will be more resources to go around. If the govt. were to pin a dollar to an ounce of gold, do you think it would take an ounce of gold to buy a loaf of bread or do you think you could by 1700 loafs of bread for a dollar?
@dlucas90 I don't believe in creating money from nothing like you want to peg on me. Turning dollars into highly rare diamonds to empower the holders of the magical Jew gold paper stock is sick. Consuming ever more wealth because of some gold in vaults leads to a decadent and unproductive society. What overlord of wealth decided that gold was so fucking valuable as to have the gravity of determining money production in the first place??? Gold has highly limited industrial uses.
@PrimeConsciousness You do believe in creating money from nothing because you said your self that amount of money should be able to be created to accomidate an increase in population, regardless of a finite amount of resources.
The gold standard is simply a unit of measure, a way to pin a dollar amont to a WIEGHT of a finite resourse. It doesn't control the percieved value as that is determined by the DEMAND for money. Answer my question conserning the price of a loaf of bread.
@PrimeConsciousness When private banks create inflation, they are taxing everyone in society with a flat tax and then redistributing that wealth to THEIR CHOICE of industry in the form of new money. Last time I checked, Bankers are NOT elected, therefore, Bankers taxing society through inflation is a form of TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Hmmm, where have I heard that before?
@dlucas90 Back during when gold was a foundation of U.S. money, this wasn't a problem because the supply of gold was far more than was the demand for paper assets, and this allowed the economy to grow due to a gold boom. Also, please understand that mining a metal and storing it away without any more "economic movement" to the metal is a scam. Foreigners will use our currency if they can buy something from us with it. It's that simple. DUH!!!
@PrimeConsciousness You must not believe in freemarket principles if you believe the purchasing power of gold and silver cannot be increased. You seem to think some unelected asshole needs to be put in charge of creating money from nothing to hand out to his favorite freinds and industries rather than letting market forces drive up the purchasing power of the existing money supply. Why let purchasing power increase of the existing money supply if you have a "golden goose printing press". Duh!
@sewbuttns What makes gold and silver perfect as money is the fact that it can't be created by central planners from thin air. The fact that gold and silver are rare and take effort to produce means they carry value. Fiat paper money that is only backed by debt is potentially unlimited and whoever is given the power to create it and distrubute it is in complete control of society. Right now central banks create money from nothing and our stupid, corrupt govt.s "borrow" it at interest.
@dlucas90 Currency can be worthless cause it's just a system of keeping track of the wealth that exists. But the currency should represent something of actual value. I just dont see why gold would be that thing. It doesn't make sense because if a country is loaded with natural resources then they would be rich even if they had no gold. So obviously the amount of gold a nation has is not a good measure of how wealthy it is.
@sewbuttns What would you recomend the unit of wealth be measured in? A country with no gold would be able to buy lots of gold if it can trade resources for gold. Gold only is a measure of wealth, that is what makes it valuable, it is rare and takes real effort and resources to obtain, therefore it represents real wealth which can not easily be counterfeited. That is what make gold valuble, it is it is ideal a a monetary comodity. How would paper money be superior to gold backed paper ?
@dlucas90 I'm not sure it should be just one thing. Money should be backed by the nations entire wealth and that's constituted from many things. The more I think about it though the more it seems like being on the gold standard would limit the available currency to only a tiny fraction of the nations actual wealth, which doesn't seem like it would be a good thing.
@sewbuttns The gold standard is simply a measuring system that cannot be easily manipulated. The value of the total amount of gold in the world would be proportional to what ever valuable resources the world has. If the world had half as much gold as it currently does but still had the same amount of other resources it would simply mean gold would be able to purchas twice as much as it currently can. The total amount of gold is less important than the fact that it cannot be produced for free.
@dlucas90 LoL. Good dildos comeback. ^_^ Anyway, you seem to wrongly believe that gold is the only commodity with value based on weight and a limited means of production. Every other commodity on the market is labor derived and has value, except gold is sufficiently limited as to halt economic growth if gold capital flow were to stop. A "basket of metal" commodities backing a currency wouldn't limit all money printing to a gold mine in Africa. Gold money is dead for good, and thank God.
All currency is technically worthless, but the difference is flat currency is usually based on the country it is in, where as gold has a more "universal" value, considering we aren't the only people who want it.
I am not saying I am for a gold standard or anything, though.
You guys will prolly get what you want, that's where we're headed, global communism with digital monopoly money, and a superclass that squats over all of us parading a twisted philosophy of brotherhood. Goodnight comrades.
Ron Paul is the classic co-opter in American elections for the opposition. Remember Ross Perot? Socialism is the answer. Also, there is also a libertarian socialist movement that was a popular in the mid 20th century. You dont hear about them though, just the capitalist kooks like Ron Paul aka "propertarian libertarians." People are money junkies in this country..call it silver, call it gold, call it fiat money. It's like salt on the wounds of the economy.
@NathanHaleLives THANK YOU! Seeing someone else say it makes me think maybe I'm not overly cynical about how this "rogue candidate" who's been "blacked out" by the media that told us they were "blacking him out" and has been "totally biased and against him" while Lou Dobs, Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough, Bill Maher, hell even John Stewart, have all been practically praising and worshiping him.
@Laughingblades You're welcome. It's good to see other people that have done their homework. I hated homework in school. It's so much better in the real world.
This is why I like Satanism. It is the cool religion that didn't kill about 150 arabic people on its fucking crusades, and continues to kill people since.
@RaskolnikovMr Ad Hom. Just because I'm a troll doesn't mean I'm trolling, even if I'm trolling it doesn't mean I'm wrong, and even if I'm wrong that doesn't make you right.
@fonkymaster That's not true. An old 4chan secret art of trolling, especially for cannibal trolls, is to tell the truth and make valid, consistent arguments. Any troll can say something stupid and untrue, that's low level shit, but that just instills frustration and arrogance in the victim. Trolling with the truth instills a sense of impotence, frustration, wounded ego, sometimes even panic, in many ways, it's one of the darker arts of trolling. Esp when sprinkled with ego slights.
Trolls can be for or against the things they're trolling.
:p But more than I'm against Ron Paul, I'm against the follower mindset of the Paulbots. The thing with Ron Paul and people like him is that people become more concerned with defending them than they are with the truth or the position they're defending. And people get Mindjacked, so all their effort passion and energy is wasted on electing some politician. Ron Paul is cancer, and should be devoured.
@fonkymaster Ron Paul is the type of cancer that causes people to adopt and defend positions they'd otherwise be against simply because they reverse their glorious leader, the type that causes people who otherwise would have made a difference not only to fail to ever do so, but to drag others down and make them fail as well.
For Paulbots, and politifags in general, everything is about promoting and defending the politician they've attached their ego to. That's what I'm against ;)
Ron Paul is not a Libertarian either he wants a country where states have the right to tax you determine your citizenship and impose mandatory laws on you that's all about as anti-libertarian as you can get the man's a total fraud.
The constitution NEVER forbids paper currency, and here's a problem with the constitutionality of Ron Paul's position on the fed.
Article 1 Section 8 Claus 5 explicitly gives congress the power to coin money and set it's value.'
This is a power Ron Paul does not believe in. He neither wants to nationalize the fed (Bernie Sanders, Stewart Alexander, Rocky Anderson) or allow congress to set the value of currency (the constitution), he wants to let private mints and the market do it.
Article 1 section 10 states that only gold & silver shall be used as American currency. You are correct in stating that Congress is allowed to coin money and prescribe a dollar value to a particular wieght, however, you can NOT coin debt (thin air) and Congress does not have the power to state what a dollar can purchase other than a prescibed amount of gold or silver.
Besides, Congress doesn't even create the fake money it uses, it borrows the monopoly money from a bank.
@dlucas90 Actually no, it says only gold or silver shall be used by states as payment of debts. It seems that one does get disregarded though.
:p That's a problem with Ron Paul's position btw, he doesn't want congress printing or coining the money, he wants to let banks do it themselves and "open the federal reserve up to competition", others like Bernie Sanders for instance want the federal reserve fully nationalized so that congress has it's constitutional power, Ron Paul doesn't.
@Laughingblades Exactly. It's bullshit. Yeah let's have MORE free markets and it will make everything better. The only thing, ROn Paul is regulating the government by ending the Fed, and his desire to end federal departments. America has def gotten too big an corrupt, but free markets arent the answer!
@NathanHaleLives Of course if Ron Paul got elected he wouldn't be able to end the fed or much of anything else he runs on. He's taking advantage of his politicult follower's lack of knowledge about the powers of office.
How's a President supposed to end the fed? Only Congress could, and they're never going to do that, most of them are traitors and prostitutes.
@dlucas90 Nope, who you elect as president won't make a difference because none of the main candidates running will be able to fulfill 99% of their promises and they're all lying frauds. Here's what I suggest, stop getting co-opted by politicians and pinning all your hopes and effort on getting them elected.
You wanna see change, get out there and be the change.
@Laughingblades I think Ron Paul and his movement of followers already has a better chance of ending the "fed" reserve fraud factory than I do on a personal level. I'll just stick to supporting Ron and convincing more to join the cause. Thanks for the pep talk though.
@dlucas90 Ron Paul would have no power to do anything about the Fed even if he were elected, and he knows it. The presidency is not a monarchy, he's exploiting you and taking advantage of your naivety and desire for change.
@Laughingblades The presidency may not have the power of a monarch but it can veto bills the crooks in Congress try to pass. If the presidency has no power and it doesn't matter who is in charge, why do you bother trying to bring Ron Paul down? Haven't you antything better to do than convince people not to vote for an inconsequental election?
1: Being able to veto bills is pretty impotent, Ron Paul would have no possible way to end the fed
2: There's a division of powers but today mostly corporations banks and the pentagon
3: Back in my day Anonymous devoured politifags, since Anon got all distracted I've taken on the role. Ron Paul is a piece of shit, he's cancer, he's false hope, he's a fraud, and following him leads people to defend things like rape and social darwinism.
@dlucas90 Also, honestly, it's more about the mind set of Ron Paul's followers than Ron Paul himself. I love tormenting you with the truth you don't want to hear about your false messiah.
I have this game I play, where I'll take a Ron Paul quote and quote it at a mindless Paulbot as if Obama said it, they'll attack it as horrible. Then I'll point out that Ron Paul said it, and they'll start defending it, just because Ron Paul said it.
""Employee rights are said to be valid when employers pressure employees into sexual activity. Why don't they quit once the so-called harassment starts? Obviously the morals of the harasser cannot be defended, but how can the harassee escape some responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable." ~ Romney
Almost no one (except trolls) defends that unless they know Ron Paul said it.
@fonkymaster Oh there's a lot of good ones, like if they're atheist you have some right here, or some of his anti-Christ State separation quotes, or like for Latino's there's his Birthright Citizenship stance, or for libertarians there's all sorts of ammunition on what he thinks states should be able to do, there's his stances on evolution, global warming, heck just check out these treasure troves there's something for everyone.
@Laughingblades Yes, that is why our country is called the United STATES of America. It is hard for the country to pay debts in anything other than gold and silver if all the STATES use gold and silver, duh.
Ron Paul has never claimed he wants to abolish the mint. He wants to open the "fed" bank up to currency competition by allowing gold and silver to be used along side the central banks "monopoly" money. I don't want Congress to counterfeit money either.
@dlucas90 Yep, the United States of America was founded as a federal nation of sovereign states all of whom agreed to abide by the constitution and join a federal government.
And I don't know what you're "Duh"ing about, you're the one who seems to have missed the critical part. For States to pay off DEBTS, it says nothing about what's valid as currency, only about how the states themselves are expected to pay their debts.
Yeah, Ron Paul doesn't support A1S8C5 of the constitution.
@Laughingblades So you are somehow cliaiming that the states should be paying its debts in gold and silver but all the state together should be able to use money backed by fairy fart dust made from magic beans?
@dlucas90 I'm saying the constitution says they have to pay debts in gold or silver but it says nothing about what currency the citizens of that state are allowed to use.
First Ron Paul doesn't believe the first amendment applies to anyone but congress, because it uses the word congress.
Second, where the fk does the bible say we should use the gold standard, or metal currency in general? It never says Paper Fiat is less valid than Metal Fiat (all currency is fiat, including gold)
Third, he doesn't have the power to preform a full audit, and even if he did, that's a purely ceremonial gesture.
@dlucas90 The bible says thou shalt not kill, yet it contains tremendous references of murders, namely from the one you call god. Hypocritical?! Of course.
I also don't believe you need some ancient ignorant religious texts to figure out that banks creating money from thin air is a -bad- thing. This was a bullshit argument on your part.
@RedMarxism If you understand that creating money from thin air is a bad thing, who are you going to vote for? Ron Paul is the only candidate talking about sound money. Our language and math also has "ancient" root, does that make them wrong?
Well, this is the only remarkably stupid thing Paul has said in the name of religion. That's more than you can say for most politicians.
bla87 4 days ago
where was he wrong? just because he bought the word religion? he said, audit the fed, he said dont inflate the currency, you leave all that and hang on to Religion. How typical "American".
alexmathews070177 1 week ago
The Bible also says - And all unbelievers shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.
Eagle2012B 2 weeks ago
@Eagle2012B ORLLY?
DORproductions117 1 week ago
God bless you Ron! We love you thank God for your stand. Keep trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ and keep reading your Bible!
Eagle2012B 2 weeks ago
bet youll be praying,when christ returns,or when you are on your death bed,dont wait till its to late, and ps wake up
trantham4freedom 2 weeks ago
Look Jerk off, I'm not a Christian but this message is about being moral and ethical. A person and a government needs to operate that way or we wind up where we are today. Fine you're anti-bible, but if you think he's off the mark because he's referring to people acting ethically then you my friend have lost your way.
ajksfda 2 weeks ago
1/10th
OnlyHempFuture 2 weeks ago
Anti-Christians love acting like they know what they're talking about. Those Bible references are clearly taken out of context if you actually know anything about Christianity. First of all, none of those people were forced to sell their possessions for the common good. Secondly, they were members of the Church committing acts of charity. No one else outside the church (or even in the church for that matter) was required to sell their possessions, by any law or any command. It was discretionary.
joeproctor 2 weeks ago
As it stands now, people are forced to pay for medicare and medicaid and the new upcoming Obamacare. It's not discretionary. They're being forced. It's not charity. It's a tax. You're stealing from someone to give to someone else. We're admonished, as Christians, to be charitable. But we're not forced into it, or else it's not truly charity. I'm certain Jesus and any of the Apostles would be against theft, even if you were trying to benefit someone through that act of theft. It's still theft.
joeproctor 2 weeks ago
@tanksbb When I said our economic policies are based upon Marxist economics are was clearly referring to communists. "Free market" capitalism is clearly not based upon Marxism it is based upon primitivism and destroying the achievements of the past hundred years in order to transform us into primitive savages who rely on "the purest form of bartering" like we did several centuries ago.
id1337x 1 month ago
@tanksbb Our economic policies are based on Marxist economics. Marx was German so our economic policies aren't primarily North Korean or Chinese. On the other hand, the Austrian school of economic thought is essentially primitivist. Austrian economists seek to eliminate the gains that societies have made over the past hundred years and return to a primitive chaotic society like early capitalism. Even if they succeed in their primitivist goals, statist society will develop again.
id1337x 1 month ago
@tanksbb Austrian economics is a load of bourgeois idealist hogwash based on using a pre-scientific epistemology. Shouldve known all the Paultards would come out of the woodwork to spew this crap...
tehCavil 1 month ago
I'm no 'christian' but i'm sure if Jesus were here today he'd verbally rape every candidate but ron.
He was a socialist who rebelled against the hypocritical religious elite and promoted empathy and understanding. Everyone grooves with jesus whether criminal or king and Ron Paul will be neither but he will be honest and fair. He may have some far out policy but in office his common sense will prevail as he works with the people for the people.
He Is Not For Sale!
and pot will be legal =D
SojournerLi 1 month ago
Ron Paul is 100% correct...like usual.
You Maoists are really making me upset. I know we got the 1st Amendment and all but if you guys had your way we wouldn't have the Constitution any more or be able to dissent against your tyrannical ideology.
1337wafflezz 1 month ago
@1337wafflezz
departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/77cons02.html#chap07
read this bitch and tell me its not better than the US consitution
donnie1805 1 month ago
@donnie1805 Link didn't work. Anyways, I imagine it's a piece of totalitarian garbage. It doesn't matter how much I agree with a person's line of thinking, but if they impose it on everyone else then that officially makes it bullshit.
1337wafflezz 1 month ago
@1337wafflezz not really try putting a triple w before the link
the fact that your making a judgment before even knowing and even taking a look just shows that your a part of the people who thwarted the advancement of society
donnie1805 1 month ago
@donnie1805
here an extrait
"Citizens of the USSR have the right to take part in the management and administration of state and public affairs and in the discussion and adoption of laws and measures of All-Union and local significance."
"Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited."
donnie1805 1 month ago
Ron Paul has an interesting approach here, and I think the maker of this video purposefully misunderstood it.
The bible can be interpreted in many different ways, and certainly "thou shalt not bear false witness" <-- one of the ten commandments is a statement against fraud.
Ron Paul is trying to sway the religious people to agree with his Libertarian economics by noting that the bible can be interpreted that way.
Basically, fighting against the church's brainwashing using their own tools
jamincortez 1 month ago
not long ago it was a good thing for a president to be God fearing. Now we want atheists in office? By all means lets elect ppl that are at least up front about having no moral foundation. Don't bother to comment back I won't respond.
bnewton81 1 month ago
stupid cracker that book doesnt belong to any of you europeans and where is yall crackers green card
freeze613 1 month ago
he never said the bible restricts central banks, this maoist guy is pretty delusional. he's saying the good values (for example being honest with weights and measures) taught in the bible should be applied in our society. furthermore, he said only gold and silver is legal tender UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. he never said "the bible prohibits central banks". stop distorting the facts!
fyi i am not a christian
nikzad92 1 month ago
@nikzad92 So what makes the constitution a good document that needs to be followed?
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
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koppellhinex 1 month ago
if ron paul established an economy based on the bible.. It will cause chaos to the people.. Not all people in the u.s are "Christians"...By the way jason is right .. And he use liberation theology.. Hahah ... Just kidding.... Solidarity from the philippines
leftist22 1 month ago
Deuteronomy 25:13-15
You shall not have in your bag differing weights, a large and a small. You shall not have in your house differing measures, a large and a small. You shall have a full and just weight; you shall have a full and just measure, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the LORD your God gives you.
This is the quote Paul was talking about with the just measures. Not that I agree with him about the bible, I do know sound monetary policy. He is for that. I am for him
shadowpoetrk 1 month ago
@shadowpoetrk That says absolutely nothing about a means of exchange.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
I'm an Athiest and i follow christian values. its philosophy.
1991jmoney 1 month ago
Would anyone care to explain how the Fed's printing money differs from counterfeiting?
Also, there are at least three verses commanding the use of honest weights and measures (money):
Deuteronomy 25:13-14
Proverbs 11:1 and 16:11
t4509228 1 month ago
@t4509228 Also, please be civil in your response. I'm not trying to start a war here.
t4509228 1 month ago
@t4509228 Doesn't matter. Anything can be used as money so long as people agree to it. "Sound money" is an absolute lie. Read Graeber.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
STFU, Jason. You're losing credibility quickly speaking negatively about Ron Paul. Out of all Presidential Candidates, Ron Paul is DEFINITELY the lesser evil.
DeviousXBastard 1 month ago
haha ron paul looks like pinocchio
arabmafiaify 1 month ago
END THE FED!!!
waffleone3 1 month ago 10
lol the politics aren't supposed to be sect or religious based. politics have NOTHING to do with faith or religiousness. if you relate politics with religion, you're no better than the kings of medieval Europe and should be killed as slowly as possible.
sNiP3R0pTiX 1 month ago
You got to be careful about our politicians, whatever they talk about or whoever they are!
When Obama got elected, I was thrilled with that, and I was even more thrilled when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize!
Today, after looking back to everything Obama did as USA president, I find that I was naive in trusting he would be a honest person...—Take a look at the video running on my profile, and you´ll see why I say that!
YOU KNOW, THE MAOIST REBEL COULD NOT BE MORE RIGHT!...
"AVANT" COMRADE!
jsnovais1000 1 month ago
And is an economy based on the neo-utopian fantasy that economic scarcity will magically vanish (keyword: covered up) under a "dictatorship of the proletariat" any better?
TheDeathstarrr 1 month ago
@TheDeathstarrr Good point, you fucking genius! Let's just base everything on the bible now! Huzzah for the American Taliban!
TalkingMonkey666 1 month ago in playlist More videos from MaoistRebelNews2
This guy is stupendously retarded, RP was referring to The parable in Matthew 25:14-30. A CLEAR endorsement of paying people according to their worth, responsible use of money and rewards of greater wealth for doing so. The cherry-picked verse this commie chose is also interesting... how could those wealthy people commit such charity if they had not created that wealth to begin with?
And believe it or not, many enormously successful people take lessons about money from the BIBLE.
consolitech 1 month ago
@consolitech Maybe the country is in the shitter BECAUSE all of the rich and powerful are a bunch of uneducated selfish retards who take advice from 2,000 year old fairy tales.
I didn't come here to have a barking contest with some right-wing monkey, so farewell.
TalkingMonkey666 1 month ago 6
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Of course not. you are smart to avoid a losing battle. I mean look at your last statement:"Maybe the country is in the shitter BECAUSE all of the rich and powerful are a bunch of uneducated selfish retards who take advice from 2,000 year old fairy tales." Didn't your commie buddy try to show that the Bible encourages socialism???
Bail-outs, bloated well-fare and wasteful debt are not exactly biblical ideals. Tell me, what biblical economics are responsible for the economy?
consolitech 1 month ago
@TalkingMonkey666 Aww, did i imply that, you poor soul?
TheDeathstarrr 1 month ago
im vetoing for him
antoine121290 1 month ago
Wow, you really like your red propoganda. But maybe your biased because socialism and Ron Paul's views are completely different ECONOMY wise. He is very much for individual choice like gay marriage, abortion, free speech, unmonitored internet, and anti-police state. (Look up Spanish inquisition). Paul strongly believes in a free-market unregulated system tho so it is quite contradictory towards your beliefs.
Oh. Feel free to swear at me, call me stupid, dumb, fucker, etc. you do in other vids
ninjaseatvegies 1 month ago
Oh, I see. So, a country doesn't work if it does not have morals and religious values. Glad you cleared that up, Dr. Paul. Next comes the easy part - deciding on WHICH morals and WHICH religious values to have among a population of 312,920,000 people. Good luck!
ResidentDissident 1 month ago
I think he may be using the Tax Collector bits: However those were about honesty in public office and treating "sinners" well.
Two things the modern Republican party is clearly against!
DarthAzabrush 1 month ago
Ron Paul: Religious bigot... Racist... Idiot...
TheScottism101 1 month ago
And now i have subscribed
gphhawkins 1 month ago
One of the few things I find appalling about the man. Gives the Libertarian ideals a bad taste in everyones mouth. Im a Libertarian, I love Ron Paul but his religious point of view makes me want to punch myself in the face.
scienceatheism 1 month ago
As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?
-- John Adams, letter to FA Van der Kamp, December 27, 1816
John Adams like many of our Founding Fathers was a Deist , Ron Paul can go fuck himself, why is it OK for him to insult us Atheists ? Why is it okay for him to lie ?
777Atheist 1 month ago
@777Atheist fuck the founding fathers, slaveholding pieces of shit
Mystery072 1 month ago
Wise man that Paul.
MrJoeystockdale 1 month ago
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@MrJoeystockdale "Wise man that Paul."
Well, there's also this thing called senility that comes with age.
technatezin 1 month ago
the Bible says we can buy and sell slaves. Does Ron Paul think we should be able to do that too?
epsilon8998 1 month ago
@epsilon8998 Well the bible does say that.
StonerIsOP 1 month ago
@epsilon8998 Yes... Yes he does.
TheScottism101 1 month ago
An economy based on the bible eh?
10th commandment:
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."
If you covet my wife, but I covet your ox and donkey can we make a trade?
technatezin 1 month ago
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Go fuck yourself fascist/maoist asshole!!!!
MrJohnnada 1 month ago
@MrJohnnada how about you go fuck yourself satanist/christian, pacifist/warlord, ....(insert more contradictory titles here) asshole!!! No seriously dude go find out what yours talking about before attempting to insult someone. Stop pwning yourself.
Sovietcomrade262 1 month ago
@sunnyboyX89 Libertarians are the ultimate in transforming yourself into thinking like a inhuman robot. If there's a market for cannibalizing old grandparents to be sold as hamburger meat (for profit of course) the libertarians would be the first to jump onto that idea and support it as long as it makes money for them.
technatezin 1 month ago 3
lol, let's trust a desert book made two thousand years ago on modern day economics in a country hundreds of miles away from the holy land, and made by authors who really didn't know shit about economics, only about telling good stories.
What could possibly go wr- oh wait, French Revolution. T__T
unifieddynasty 1 month ago
-"Economy based on the Bible."-
Morality based on the Bible has worked out for skeptics, LGBTQ people and all others. Oh, wait.
JonathanTheAlchemist 1 month ago
lol
RedMusicSinging 1 month ago
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god have noting to do with the politics of men, thus, the bible is not a political doctrine and god is the one who will end the kingdoms of men and crash the giant statue of men after the great depression. - it's in the revelation...
cjbaynas 1 month ago
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cjbaynas 1 month ago
Placing gold as the God commodity to determine all economic activity is as arbitrary as making dildos the supreme unit of wealth.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness Except that dildos can be can be pulled out of YOUR ass for free whereas gold can NOT! ;-)
dlucas90 1 month ago
So I decided to look this up on Google... there are versus related to gold and silver.
Look for: Bible Gold and Silver on Google. It's the first one ..
FearedBliss 1 month ago
The fed is a conglomerate of PRIVATE Jewish BANKS, the fed must be abolish and the government issue money interest free, that would be according to the Bible or the Quran, I see no problem with that!
Louaner 1 month ago
@sunnyboyX89 If the govt. collects the most percentage of revenue from the "rich", then the govt. has every incentive to make sure the "rich" have the majority of the money supply. Why help the poor if they only cost your money and you don't collect anything from them? Taxing the rich is a scam designed to put all the money in the hands of the rich so that the govt. can tax the "rich" after the rich tax the public in the form of uncompetitve prices. Bill Gates passes his tax to his customers
dlucas90 1 month ago
@sunnyboyX89 Ron Paul is advocating cutting spending, mostly on CORPORATE WELFARE bureaucracies, making corporate wlfare reciepients go bankrupt or reduce prices to what the public can afford. The corportations have taken over the govt., that is why we need to take away their ability to create money from nothing and give it to themselves, duh!
dlucas90 1 month ago
@sunnyboyX89 People that can create money from thin air and then pass it out to THEIR CHOICE of freinds and industry is NOT a form of "capitalisim", rather, it is a form of unelected central control that uses fake fiat money as its wepon of choice to discriminate. I didn't say we need a "efficient" govt. , I sad we need an EFFECTIVE govt., one that actually enforces the laws laid out by the Constitution! Ron Paul is trying to get ELECTED, therfore, he isn't against democratic elections.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Even your antiquated gold economy would be infinitely superior to the contrived shit we have now. Put Thomas Jefferson in charge and all U.S. problems would be solved over night, and he'd also be the most notorious American "communist"...LoL. Hail Jefferson! Hail Liberty!
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@dlucas90 It's called bourgeoisie socialism...
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@sunnyboyX89 LoL. Exactly. He would also work to smash the Zionist banking wars. The U.S. state is merely a mechanism of transnational finance capital, so dissolve it and let workers fend for themselves. Our taxes only go to the most fit bourgeoisie anyway. Let Trump have his Benjis because the state uses them to exterminate brown people.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@sunnyboyX89 I agree that big business is a form of big govt. but I don't agree that big govt. prevents big business and neither does Ron Paul. What Paul is proposing is sound money, that cannot be created from nothing and then passed out through "govt." spending. Actually I think the terms "big govt." and "small govt." should be dropped since what we really need is an EFFECTIVE govt., a govt. which enforces tha laws of the land on EVERYONE, EQUALLY, which is what Paul is advocating.
dlucas90 1 month ago
Paultrolls Activate!
robertrulebirtannia 1 month ago
@robertrulebirtannia ..........form of Obamabot wrecker (poof)
dlucas90 1 month ago
If you guys haven't figured it out, yes, there is legitimate non-billionaire opposition of Paul too.
dingleflorden 1 month ago
Can one hold others up to their own standards, and still be advocating his own?
AkivaII 1 month ago
It would be better to see Ron Paul president then to see another term for Obama
21boxhead 1 month ago
Oh well, Bible takes 20% right off the top. 10% for the Priesthood and 10% to be left in the fields and on the trees for the widow, the orphan, the wayfarer, and the stranger. Then comes the King, God's appointed. Lookin like at least 30% to me.
lefey36 1 month ago
these are the best of your videos, when you throw emotion in :)
thumps up for the clip too
MuslimRebelRevolte 1 month ago
I never understood the gold standard. I mean gold is pretty worthless.
sewbuttns 1 month ago
@sewbuttns Send me all your gold. Understand now? Try getting pussy by writting an IOU on a piece of paper and offering it to the woman you desire. If that doesn't work offer the woman you desire some gold, a bota bing a bota boom!
dlucas90 1 month ago
@sewbuttns Gold is to fiat money what a woman is to a Penthouse magazine. Would you rather have a woman or a Penthouse magazine?
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Getting off the gold standard was necessary for the US. The economy would have tanked if the gold standard was still in place. The real problem occurred when financial markets were deregulated.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Nonsense, the gold standard was tinkered with in order to steal all the gold and leave us at the mercy of the people who create the money from nothing.
It all started in 1913 when Congress allowed a private central bank to create American currency from debt (thin air). Congress and other banks "borrowed" the monopoly money and paid it back with INTEREST FROM THE ORIGINAL MONEY SUPPLY OF GOLD AND SILVER. By 1971 there was not enough gold/silver left for the gold standard
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Well neither seeing as how I'm a female and I'm not gay, but I get your point. I still dont see why gold would be the thing to back money when gold itself isn't a utility and even though you can't make more of it the value does fluctuate since it doesnt have any concrete use value, or atleast I don't think it has very much.
sewbuttns 1 month ago
@sewbuttns A currency can be backed with capital output of various kinds. Capital output overall is what mankind needs to maintain civilization, and gold is just a small fraction of capital production. A stable currency that is backed by industrial GDP is needed. Backing currency only with gold is yet another deluded financier scam that somehow became entangled with the affairs of the state due to intelligent people in government mimicking bankers. Bankers took it back...LoLs.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness What do you suppose the GDP is backed by, units of labor, units of want or units of need? Backing the dollar with "industrial GDP" as meaningless as backing the paper dollar with paper bonds bought with paper dollars. Gold and silver privide a MEASURE BY WIEGHT to represent value. That means there can be some real math and science behind the monetary system.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 The Chinese don't back their currency with gold, and it maintains value just fine due to the world's demand for Chinese metals. Nothing mandates that gold is the resource to own them all. Fiat money itself began with Jew bankers scamming gentiles by giving them far more paper than gold in their vaults, and this paradigm would not be avoided just because government takes the place of the money masters. Humans use ALL metals, not just gold dumbass. Americans are doomed idiots.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness No one is suggesting that the govt. should be able to put more paper in the hands of citizens than there is gold and silver it represents. There is a reason we use gold and silver as a monetary metal instead of steel or aluminum and that is because no one in therir right mind wants to carry $200 worth of steel coins to the fu@#ing grocery store. Gold and silver as money provides a back-stop to the creation of money from thin aior, that is what gives it value as a currency
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 I totally sympathize with you and Ron Paul, but at the same time, you misunderstand the nature of a backed currency. The metals used to back a currency aren't carried around by the masses, rather they are stored in "commodity baskets" that trade partners BUY from. A constant fresh supply of metal/oil/coal/intellectual/etc commodity is needed. If you rely on only gold to print $, then gold is too large an economic sector and hinders printing in relation to paper asset demand.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness I think it is you that still doesn't understand the beauty of gold backed money. It is precisely because gold is a limited commodity that makes it most appealing as a base for currency. That means that when the need for money exceeds the amount of gold in the money supply the VALUE of the EXISTING money supply INCREASES in purchasing power for EVERYONE. I know we have been brought up to think money should constantly lose value but that is the problem with inflation.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 That's exploiting a limited commodity to inflate your filthy Jew banker pockets. The age of fat finance feeders sitting around and assimilating capital due to scarcity is coming to an end, especially as more nations get nuclear weapons. The world will NOT tolerate America's dirty finance capital scams of hoarding gold in vaults and then making a killin' off the decrease in supply. Herr Hitler had more economic sense than you. Fuckin' moron Americans.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness No stupid, limiting money to a limited supply means that bankers can't create their own money supply. It means everyone that has a paycheck will be able to buy more with their paychack as human progress makes manufacturing more efficient. It means the working class won't constantly be having to ask for a raise just to get back to the purchasing power they had the year before. It means employers can't just raise costs to customers and not give raises to their employees.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 I agree with everything you said, but you tether sound money to ONLY gold, which is antiquated. What happens when humanity is 20 billion plus and there's no more gold to continue any form of money printing to satisfy the demand? A limited money supply is needed for either government or bankers, but placing the paper money wall at the finite cap for earth gold resources would lead to -Ⓐ--Ⓐ--Ⓐ-!!!! The money supply must be finite in the short term, yet infinite in the long term.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness You still don't get it. If the population were to double and the amount of gold & silver were to remain constant, the purchasing power of gold and silver would DOUBLE as well because the DEMAND for it would DOUBLE. You still think money should be created by someone and then handed out by central planners to who THEY, not demand, see fit., and guess what, the central planners who pass out money made from nothing NEVER pass it out fairly.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 This is all fine and dandy in the short term, but exponential human population growth throws a monkey wrench in that model believe it or not. This leads to money gaining ever more scarcity until it can no longer find its way to the workers. Economics is as simple as produce what you consume, and if you unbalance the scale toward consumption based on an ever more scarce and valuable commodity, then there will be a globl gov of the most fit money assimilators. U can't avoid elites...
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness Maybe if money isn't created from nothing, population growth would be slowed. Just because you produce more paper money to go around doesn't mean there will be more resources to go around. If the govt. were to pin a dollar to an ounce of gold, do you think it would take an ounce of gold to buy a loaf of bread or do you think you could by 1700 loafs of bread for a dollar?
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 I don't believe in creating money from nothing like you want to peg on me. Turning dollars into highly rare diamonds to empower the holders of the magical Jew gold paper stock is sick. Consuming ever more wealth because of some gold in vaults leads to a decadent and unproductive society. What overlord of wealth decided that gold was so fucking valuable as to have the gravity of determining money production in the first place??? Gold has highly limited industrial uses.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness You do believe in creating money from nothing because you said your self that amount of money should be able to be created to accomidate an increase in population, regardless of a finite amount of resources.
The gold standard is simply a unit of measure, a way to pin a dollar amont to a WIEGHT of a finite resourse. It doesn't control the percieved value as that is determined by the DEMAND for money. Answer my question conserning the price of a loaf of bread.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness When private banks create inflation, they are taxing everyone in society with a flat tax and then redistributing that wealth to THEIR CHOICE of industry in the form of new money. Last time I checked, Bankers are NOT elected, therefore, Bankers taxing society through inflation is a form of TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Hmmm, where have I heard that before?
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Back during when gold was a foundation of U.S. money, this wasn't a problem because the supply of gold was far more than was the demand for paper assets, and this allowed the economy to grow due to a gold boom. Also, please understand that mining a metal and storing it away without any more "economic movement" to the metal is a scam. Foreigners will use our currency if they can buy something from us with it. It's that simple. DUH!!!
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@PrimeConsciousness You must not believe in freemarket principles if you believe the purchasing power of gold and silver cannot be increased. You seem to think some unelected asshole needs to be put in charge of creating money from nothing to hand out to his favorite freinds and industries rather than letting market forces drive up the purchasing power of the existing money supply. Why let purchasing power increase of the existing money supply if you have a "golden goose printing press". Duh!
dlucas90 1 month ago
@sewbuttns What makes gold and silver perfect as money is the fact that it can't be created by central planners from thin air. The fact that gold and silver are rare and take effort to produce means they carry value. Fiat paper money that is only backed by debt is potentially unlimited and whoever is given the power to create it and distrubute it is in complete control of society. Right now central banks create money from nothing and our stupid, corrupt govt.s "borrow" it at interest.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Currency can be worthless cause it's just a system of keeping track of the wealth that exists. But the currency should represent something of actual value. I just dont see why gold would be that thing. It doesn't make sense because if a country is loaded with natural resources then they would be rich even if they had no gold. So obviously the amount of gold a nation has is not a good measure of how wealthy it is.
sewbuttns 1 month ago
@sewbuttns What would you recomend the unit of wealth be measured in? A country with no gold would be able to buy lots of gold if it can trade resources for gold. Gold only is a measure of wealth, that is what makes it valuable, it is rare and takes real effort and resources to obtain, therefore it represents real wealth which can not easily be counterfeited. That is what make gold valuble, it is it is ideal a a monetary comodity. How would paper money be superior to gold backed paper ?
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 I'm not sure it should be just one thing. Money should be backed by the nations entire wealth and that's constituted from many things. The more I think about it though the more it seems like being on the gold standard would limit the available currency to only a tiny fraction of the nations actual wealth, which doesn't seem like it would be a good thing.
sewbuttns 1 month ago
@sewbuttns The gold standard is simply a measuring system that cannot be easily manipulated. The value of the total amount of gold in the world would be proportional to what ever valuable resources the world has. If the world had half as much gold as it currently does but still had the same amount of other resources it would simply mean gold would be able to purchas twice as much as it currently can. The total amount of gold is less important than the fact that it cannot be produced for free.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 LoL. Good dildos comeback. ^_^ Anyway, you seem to wrongly believe that gold is the only commodity with value based on weight and a limited means of production. Every other commodity on the market is labor derived and has value, except gold is sufficiently limited as to halt economic growth if gold capital flow were to stop. A "basket of metal" commodities backing a currency wouldn't limit all money printing to a gold mine in Africa. Gold money is dead for good, and thank God.
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago
@sewbuttns
All currency is technically worthless, but the difference is flat currency is usually based on the country it is in, where as gold has a more "universal" value, considering we aren't the only people who want it.
I am not saying I am for a gold standard or anything, though.
fonkymaster 1 month ago
The Tenth Commandment from the bible "Don't want shit that is not yours" a paraphrase from darkmatter2525 video on the ten commandments
JASON9948 1 month ago
@nathanhalelives care to elaborate kid?
RaskolnikovMr 1 month ago
You guys will prolly get what you want, that's where we're headed, global communism with digital monopoly money, and a superclass that squats over all of us parading a twisted philosophy of brotherhood. Goodnight comrades.
RaskolnikovMr 1 month ago
Ron Paul is the classic co-opter in American elections for the opposition. Remember Ross Perot? Socialism is the answer. Also, there is also a libertarian socialist movement that was a popular in the mid 20th century. You dont hear about them though, just the capitalist kooks like Ron Paul aka "propertarian libertarians." People are money junkies in this country..call it silver, call it gold, call it fiat money. It's like salt on the wounds of the economy.
NathanHaleLives 1 month ago
@NathanHaleLives THANK YOU! Seeing someone else say it makes me think maybe I'm not overly cynical about how this "rogue candidate" who's been "blacked out" by the media that told us they were "blacking him out" and has been "totally biased and against him" while Lou Dobs, Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough, Bill Maher, hell even John Stewart, have all been practically praising and worshiping him.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades You're welcome. It's good to see other people that have done their homework. I hated homework in school. It's so much better in the real world.
NathanHaleLives 1 month ago
Ahem, how he's a perfect fit for a trojan horse, false hope, fake third way, co-opter candidate.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades agreed
JASON9948 1 month ago
This is why I like Satanism. It is the cool religion that didn't kill about 150 arabic people on its fucking crusades, and continues to kill people since.
TheCommunist100 1 month ago
Reading some of these comments makes me realize why Obamas SOTU was registered at an 8th grade reading level.
RaskolnikovMr 1 month ago
@RaskolnikovMr Go fuck yourself. :)
NathanHaleLives 1 month ago
Laughingblades is a troll, don't feed the trolls.
RaskolnikovMr 1 month ago
@RaskolnikovMr Ad Hom. Just because I'm a troll doesn't mean I'm trolling, even if I'm trolling it doesn't mean I'm wrong, and even if I'm wrong that doesn't make you right.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@RaskolnikovMr
Laughingblades is not a troll...idiot.
Granted, I disagree with...her? I know this because if he/she/it was a troll they would not be making valid arguments like they have.
So you are wrong on that thing.
fonkymaster 1 month ago
@fonkymaster That's not true. An old 4chan secret art of trolling, especially for cannibal trolls, is to tell the truth and make valid, consistent arguments. Any troll can say something stupid and untrue, that's low level shit, but that just instills frustration and arrogance in the victim. Trolling with the truth instills a sense of impotence, frustration, wounded ego, sometimes even panic, in many ways, it's one of the darker arts of trolling. Esp when sprinkled with ego slights.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades
Well, I know you aren't trolling.
You are vigorously against Ron Paul. This is a fact.
fonkymaster 1 month ago
@fonkymaster Yes, I am.
Trolls can be for or against the things they're trolling.
:p But more than I'm against Ron Paul, I'm against the follower mindset of the Paulbots. The thing with Ron Paul and people like him is that people become more concerned with defending them than they are with the truth or the position they're defending. And people get Mindjacked, so all their effort passion and energy is wasted on electing some politician. Ron Paul is cancer, and should be devoured.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades
Derp.
Ron Paul is cancer, but the real question is, is he the cancer that is killing...that which I cannot mention outside of the fourth digit futaba?
fonkymaster 1 month ago
@fonkymaster Ron Paul is the type of cancer that causes people to adopt and defend positions they'd otherwise be against simply because they reverse their glorious leader, the type that causes people who otherwise would have made a difference not only to fail to ever do so, but to drag others down and make them fail as well.
For Paulbots, and politifags in general, everything is about promoting and defending the politician they've attached their ego to. That's what I'm against ;)
Laughingblades 1 month ago
:p Revere rather, derp
Laughingblades 1 month ago
Ron Paul is not a Libertarian either he wants a country where states have the right to tax you determine your citizenship and impose mandatory laws on you that's all about as anti-libertarian as you can get the man's a total fraud.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
The constitution NEVER forbids paper currency, and here's a problem with the constitutionality of Ron Paul's position on the fed.
Article 1 Section 8 Claus 5 explicitly gives congress the power to coin money and set it's value.'
This is a power Ron Paul does not believe in. He neither wants to nationalize the fed (Bernie Sanders, Stewart Alexander, Rocky Anderson) or allow congress to set the value of currency (the constitution), he wants to let private mints and the market do it.
Hypocrite.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades
Article 1 section 10 states that only gold & silver shall be used as American currency. You are correct in stating that Congress is allowed to coin money and prescribe a dollar value to a particular wieght, however, you can NOT coin debt (thin air) and Congress does not have the power to state what a dollar can purchase other than a prescibed amount of gold or silver.
Besides, Congress doesn't even create the fake money it uses, it borrows the monopoly money from a bank.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Actually no, it says only gold or silver shall be used by states as payment of debts. It seems that one does get disregarded though.
:p That's a problem with Ron Paul's position btw, he doesn't want congress printing or coining the money, he wants to let banks do it themselves and "open the federal reserve up to competition", others like Bernie Sanders for instance want the federal reserve fully nationalized so that congress has it's constitutional power, Ron Paul doesn't.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades Exactly. It's bullshit. Yeah let's have MORE free markets and it will make everything better. The only thing, ROn Paul is regulating the government by ending the Fed, and his desire to end federal departments. America has def gotten too big an corrupt, but free markets arent the answer!
NathanHaleLives 1 month ago
@NathanHaleLives Of course if Ron Paul got elected he wouldn't be able to end the fed or much of anything else he runs on. He's taking advantage of his politicult follower's lack of knowledge about the powers of office.
How's a President supposed to end the fed? Only Congress could, and they're never going to do that, most of them are traitors and prostitutes.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades Are you suggesting we should elect a president that is more in line with Congress, like another traitor or prosititute?
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Nope, who you elect as president won't make a difference because none of the main candidates running will be able to fulfill 99% of their promises and they're all lying frauds. Here's what I suggest, stop getting co-opted by politicians and pinning all your hopes and effort on getting them elected.
You wanna see change, get out there and be the change.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades I think Ron Paul and his movement of followers already has a better chance of ending the "fed" reserve fraud factory than I do on a personal level. I'll just stick to supporting Ron and convincing more to join the cause. Thanks for the pep talk though.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Ron Paul would have no power to do anything about the Fed even if he were elected, and he knows it. The presidency is not a monarchy, he's exploiting you and taking advantage of your naivety and desire for change.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades The presidency may not have the power of a monarch but it can veto bills the crooks in Congress try to pass. If the presidency has no power and it doesn't matter who is in charge, why do you bother trying to bring Ron Paul down? Haven't you antything better to do than convince people not to vote for an inconsequental election?
dlucas90 1 month ago
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@dlucas90 Ok three things.
1: Being able to veto bills is pretty impotent, Ron Paul would have no possible way to end the fed
2: There's a division of powers but today mostly corporations banks and the pentagon
3: Back in my day Anonymous devoured politifags, since Anon got all distracted I've taken on the role. Ron Paul is a piece of shit, he's cancer, he's false hope, he's a fraud, and following him leads people to defend things like rape and social darwinism.
4: You cultist are fun
Laughingblades 1 month ago
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@dlucas90 Also, honestly, it's more about the mind set of Ron Paul's followers than Ron Paul himself. I love tormenting you with the truth you don't want to hear about your false messiah.
I have this game I play, where I'll take a Ron Paul quote and quote it at a mindless Paulbot as if Obama said it, they'll attack it as horrible. Then I'll point out that Ron Paul said it, and they'll start defending it, just because Ron Paul said it.
You people are cultfags worshiping a leaderfag.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades
I am trying this now. Give me some good quotes.
fonkymaster 1 month ago
@fonkymaster Muahaha my favorite is this one
""Employee rights are said to be valid when employers pressure employees into sexual activity. Why don't they quit once the so-called harassment starts? Obviously the morals of the harasser cannot be defended, but how can the harassee escape some responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable." ~ Romney
Almost no one (except trolls) defends that unless they know Ron Paul said it.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@fonkymaster Oh there's a lot of good ones, like if they're atheist you have some right here, or some of his anti-Christ State separation quotes, or like for Latino's there's his Birthright Citizenship stance, or for libertarians there's all sorts of ammunition on what he thinks states should be able to do, there's his stances on evolution, global warming, heck just check out these treasure troves there's something for everyone.
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Laughingblades 1 month ago
^ Ahem Church State Separation lulz
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades Yes, that is why our country is called the United STATES of America. It is hard for the country to pay debts in anything other than gold and silver if all the STATES use gold and silver, duh.
Ron Paul has never claimed he wants to abolish the mint. He wants to open the "fed" bank up to currency competition by allowing gold and silver to be used along side the central banks "monopoly" money. I don't want Congress to counterfeit money either.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 Yep, the United States of America was founded as a federal nation of sovereign states all of whom agreed to abide by the constitution and join a federal government.
And I don't know what you're "Duh"ing about, you're the one who seems to have missed the critical part. For States to pay off DEBTS, it says nothing about what's valid as currency, only about how the states themselves are expected to pay their debts.
Yeah, Ron Paul doesn't support A1S8C5 of the constitution.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades So you are somehow cliaiming that the states should be paying its debts in gold and silver but all the state together should be able to use money backed by fairy fart dust made from magic beans?
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 I'm saying the constitution says they have to pay debts in gold or silver but it says nothing about what currency the citizens of that state are allowed to use.
Laughingblades 1 month ago
@Laughingblades So you think the states will tax the citizens for gold and silver but the citizens will conduct business in clam shells?
dlucas90 1 month ago
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Several things wrong here.
First Ron Paul doesn't believe the first amendment applies to anyone but congress, because it uses the word congress.
Second, where the fk does the bible say we should use the gold standard, or metal currency in general? It never says Paper Fiat is less valid than Metal Fiat (all currency is fiat, including gold)
Third, he doesn't have the power to preform a full audit, and even if he did, that's a purely ceremonial gesture.
Fourth, he's lying, he's full of shit
Laughingblades 1 month ago
And so do you. You did not listen He wants a Fair and Truthful money system. The FED is LIE.
Tappedline 1 month ago
The bible says thou shall not kill.
The bible is bull shit
Therefore killing is good.
This is your basic arguemnent. See a problem with it?
Ron Paul is merely pointing out that for an economy to work it must have some moral foundation on which to base itself.
Allowing banks to create money from thin air is NOT a good moral foundation for a monetary system.
The bible has some basic moral codes that are true for all religions and non-religious philosophies that include a moral code.
dlucas90 1 month ago
@dlucas90 The bible says thou shalt not kill, yet it contains tremendous references of murders, namely from the one you call god. Hypocritical?! Of course.
I also don't believe you need some ancient ignorant religious texts to figure out that banks creating money from thin air is a -bad- thing. This was a bullshit argument on your part.
RedMarxism 1 month ago
@RedMarxism
Bullshit arguments are the only arguments Paul supporters have. They KNOW he's a bigot, liar, and asshole. don't let them fool you.
TFYFWYA 1 month ago
@TFYFWYA Agreed
RedMarxism 1 month ago
@RedMarxism If you understand that creating money from thin air is a bad thing, who are you going to vote for? Ron Paul is the only candidate talking about sound money. Our language and math also has "ancient" root, does that make them wrong?
dlucas90 1 month ago