NO vote = we are still in the EU, like we are now, and the EU must be more accountable to the people of Europe. It stops the runaway power of the EU parliament and its gravy train expenses.
YES vote = no way back, we can't undo mistakes made in the treaty or the EU, our say in EU is halved. Some countries say is doubled.
The mature thing is to stand up and tell EU to correct the problems, not to give in to the accusing tut-tutting of EU politicians trying to tell us we should be embarrassed.
I'm not a constitutional lawyer, I'm not even a lawyer, in fact I don't have a degree in anything, but God help and direct me I do have to vote! All the voices are like the Tower of Babel - I can only choose to trust the advice of those I know are trustworthy. And there are faithful, courageous souls out there and I thank God for them. - Blessings - Rene
What is it about this Treaty that makes most who talk about it sound so dreadfully boring? Come on Europe, hunt down and destroy the overpaid little dweebs who came up with such a tedious piece of mumbo jumbo. It has cost tens of millions and has managed to make the European project come across as a chronic case of beureacratic diarrhoea. Shameful, immorally expensive horse shit.
Ireland had a potato fmaine under British rule. Under EU rule it is the wealthiest nation in Europe. It started off as one of the poorest in Europe when it joined the EU. Ireland is now wealtiher than Switzerland. People would have laughed at that notion decades ago. Vote yes be positive, be Irish a be European. Say I love EU. LOL:
EU law has always had primacy over National law. Abortion is not under danger. Catholics should listen to the bishops on the matter. Bishop Martin has explicitly said that abortion is NOT under danger. This is pure speculation and scare mongering and you should be ashamed of yourselves. From a pro-lifer.
Under the new Charter of Fundamental Rights, Eu wide abortion (with Ireland as a possible exception) will be recognised as a "Human Right" This Charter is to get legal recognition for the first time. Leaving the possible Irish exemption for the present, anyone voting YES will actually be voting (probably unknowingly)for the elevation of abortion across the new EU as a noble and good thing..in line with the new legal Charters values of "Human dignity, equality democracy...Human Rights etc.
Diarmuid Martin is a priest. He is not a lawyer, or pro-life campaigner. It is therefore imprudent to invest too much confidence in his personal judgement of what effect the Lisbon Treaty will have.
The man in this excellent video is a lawyer with expertise in EU law. His explanation, though long-winded, is rational and logical.
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NO vote = we are still in the EU, like we are now, and the EU must be more accountable to the people of Europe. It stops the runaway power of the EU parliament and its gravy train expenses.
YES vote = no way back, we can't undo mistakes made in the treaty or the EU, our say in EU is halved. Some countries say is doubled.
The mature thing is to stand up and tell EU to correct the problems, not to give in to the accusing tut-tutting of EU politicians trying to tell us we should be embarrassed.
EuropesHope 2 years ago
I'm not a constitutional lawyer, I'm not even a lawyer, in fact I don't have a degree in anything, but God help and direct me I do have to vote! All the voices are like the Tower of Babel - I can only choose to trust the advice of those I know are trustworthy. And there are faithful, courageous souls out there and I thank God for them. - Blessings - Rene
mammyoriordan 2 years ago
Protocol 35 protects the Irish constitution, the whole abortion issue with lisbon is non existent.
connla 2 years ago
What is it about this Treaty that makes most who talk about it sound so dreadfully boring? Come on Europe, hunt down and destroy the overpaid little dweebs who came up with such a tedious piece of mumbo jumbo. It has cost tens of millions and has managed to make the European project come across as a chronic case of beureacratic diarrhoea. Shameful, immorally expensive horse shit.
eddieInDublin 3 years ago
Ireland had a potato fmaine under British rule. Under EU rule it is the wealthiest nation in Europe. It started off as one of the poorest in Europe when it joined the EU. Ireland is now wealtiher than Switzerland. People would have laughed at that notion decades ago. Vote yes be positive, be Irish a be European. Say I love EU. LOL:
zzxzqwq 3 years ago
ye we got pushed around for years, its our time.
nuktu 3 years ago
Trust the Irish Bishops. I think not! Abortion may well be imposed. Vote NO
kpman 3 years ago
EU law has always had primacy over National law. Abortion is not under danger. Catholics should listen to the bishops on the matter. Bishop Martin has explicitly said that abortion is NOT under danger. This is pure speculation and scare mongering and you should be ashamed of yourselves. From a pro-lifer.
cornelstown 3 years ago
Under the new Charter of Fundamental Rights, Eu wide abortion (with Ireland as a possible exception) will be recognised as a "Human Right" This Charter is to get legal recognition for the first time. Leaving the possible Irish exemption for the present, anyone voting YES will actually be voting (probably unknowingly)for the elevation of abortion across the new EU as a noble and good thing..in line with the new legal Charters values of "Human dignity, equality democracy...Human Rights etc.
danocinneide 3 years ago
Yeah don't worry Ireland won't be dragged intot he 21st century any time soon.
BipedalHumanoid 3 years ago
Diarmuid Martin is a priest. He is not a lawyer, or pro-life campaigner. It is therefore imprudent to invest too much confidence in his personal judgement of what effect the Lisbon Treaty will have.
The man in this excellent video is a lawyer with expertise in EU law. His explanation, though long-winded, is rational and logical.
christianpatriot125 2 years ago