The Method To re-Establish the Islamic state (caliphate): Documentary [produced in 2003]

[Azamspazam91]

The decline of the muslims began well before Attaturk. Taking young boys from their families and forcing them into the ottoman army is not Islamic it is injustice comprable to the likes of the Firoun (pharaoh)

Ottomans should have acted upon Islam instead of burning bulgarian villages and exterminating kurds armenians. The Ottomans were raping and killing innocent civilians in the Balkans and the Caucasus with fury for 4 centuries. It is this agression and injustice that lead to its fall.

[Targoos]

@Azamspazam91 The ottoman empire was a monarchy (very close to khilafa tough)

You are demonising the ottamans, what you say isn't very accurate.

As for the khilafa, it ended with Ali Ibn abi talib; but will return as Imam mahdi emerges

I wish I can live long enough to witness it

[Azamspazam91]

@Targoos It seems like Egypt is on the verge of bringing back an Islamic state. It will take some years to develop though

[Targoos]

@Azamspazam91 Indeed, an islamic democratic state but not a caliphate. As a start it's a good thing

[Azamspazam91]

@Targoos I wonder how muslims from malaysia to morrocco can agree upon a single leadership. I have a feeling its going to be more of a federation like the European Union- shared defense strategies, economy, and culture but individual countries.

The best of course would be to see a united khilafah with one unified military, one commander in cheif and a united foreign policy executive.

[Targoos]

@Azamspazam91 Indeed ! at first it can be like the european union.

The real khilafah, I think, will return under al Mahdi.

[TOXICSAMEER]

hindi or urdu version please,....

[vadim6590]

Allhamdulilla

[kmh10956]

A Khilafah that is established by man can't survive because it does'n have the support of Allah (swt), but no one can destroy the Khilafah formed by Allah (swt). The good news is that the Khilafah has revived and is thriving for over a hundred years, spreading all over the world like wild fire. It is up to the Muslims to look it up and study it for themselves without seeking advice from their illiterate Mullahs who were prophesied by The Holy Prophet (sws) to be the worst creation under the sky

[rikaz77]

@Reido2828 Who would want to rule the west?

[alio122000]

The new Caliphate Empire of the 21st century will come about within the next decade.

[Reido2828]

@alio122000

Islam will never rule the west. NEVER

[ritchloui]

I wonder how long this 'documentary' will continue before it mentions the central role of slavery to the entire Caliphate. The 18 million Africans and 1 million Europeans. Will it mention the very bloody conquests by Islamic forces into previously prosperous and advanced civilisations? Will it mention the inequities written into Sharia between Muslim and non-Muslim? Or will it be an idealised whitewash?

[gstreetboi]

loll thumbs up for the internal american collapse....america is goin down real soon along with all the dirty rednecks and war hungry pigs...and idiot imperialists...

[kammman99]

CALIPHORNIA

[PhiloAmericana]

Muslims are trying to develop a critique of the west based upon 7th century ideology, lol

[dogagas]

@PhiloAmericana the date of the ideology has nothing to do with its truth. Truths are eternal, they do not change according to ccentury. "All men are created equal" may have been written in the 1800's, it will always remain true. Just war theory, or the concept of natural law, both of which are fundemental assumptions of the Enlightenment tradition and thus of the West, were first coined by St. Augustine of Hippo. He predates the Quran.

Peace

[theproudONE92]

very informative love it! ALLAHU AKBAR!!

[Oneummahgeneration]

... The west to implement torture or support dictators based on perceived economic interests. We see the west decadent suffering from family breakdown binge drinking and drugs and uncontrollable crime. This stems from its hedonistic philosophy which creates misery hence the 1in5 in uk will suffer from depression

[Oneummahgeneration]

As for backwardness we see this with liberalism which allows

[Oneummahgeneration]

As for the Muslim world Muslims do not want the ability to fornicate or commit adultery. They are not calling for pornography and liberalisation on this way. Rather they want accountable govt that rflects it's belief values and heritage which is Islam. We don't see it backwardness but the way forward.

[Oneummahgeneration]

Creepylizard. China & Russia are actually resurgent powers the EU is actually failing with the bankruptcy of ireland, Portugal and Greece. As well as the more developed economies suffering eg uk As for USA it's economy is stalling and it's power waning in contrast the more authoritarian Russia has achieved resurgence from it's experient of freemarkets and china is assumed to become the leading economy in 2050. So the assumption of the wests superiority is false and it lasted less than a century

[CreepyLizard]

This calls for restriction of freedom of thought and enslavery to the "words of god" as in the dark ages of Europe.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard - Islam is the idea whose time has come, not eu or us. They have already ruled and shown their colors. And KSA is not an example of shariah. Islam is a comprehensive system. The fruits of Islamic system is manifested when it is implemented comprehensively. KSA since the time of fahd has become Kingdom of Saudi America, not Islamic State. And historically it was not established for Islamic necessity primarily rather colonial necessity.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard I would suggest you to have a deep look into Islam. If you come with a preconceived idea that Islam can be nothing other than bad, then there can be no discussion. But if you have a open mind and have in your heart a drive to know and accept the truth, then you may see it.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 Been there. It killed my non-muslim friend after he left islam. It made a dear person to me suffer from lashing because she "went out with a boy outside her family". I left it. I suggest you should to - Dictatorships will always fall.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard This is reactionary thinking. You need to see Islam in proper context. A wrong implementation of Islam should not be the cause of your grievances. If there was a true Islamic State, you wouldn't see such things as it is now. In today's capitalistic system, this would be reality of muslims as they are affected by western way of life and would do things that are wrong in Islamic perspective and then you would find some people who take law in their own hands, but that is not Islam.

[theproudONE92]

@CreepyLizard lmao lies lies lies!!! hes tryna get sympthy and pity! FAIL.

[theproudONE92]

@CreepyLizard and if u were muslimlike u claim from the looks of ur page u were a shiite. but i still dont think u ever were a muslim just a good liar like u always will be

[CreepyLizard]

@theproudONE92 how the heck does my page say I'm a shiite? Oh I bet you concluded that from "Bahrain" ? Not all Bahrainis are shiites habeeb glabey. I was a Muslim - and if muslims can't believe that Ex-Muslims exist then we are far from creating a liberal, modern, "Islamic umah". ;)

[theproudONE92]

@CreepyLizard to hell with lie- berism! and yea from your argument you dont sound one bit muslim, or atleast never had an understanding of it. I swear on everything i was an ex- muslim if im lying may death strike me. After meeting a convert at a new job i started he started to correct me on my peceptions on islam. That is when i started to study it myself and came back to islam and am loving it. I beg you to re- study islam its better then anything you will find on this planet.

[CreepyLizard]

@theproudONE92 "not one bit muslim" cause no longer muslim - again, everyone claims others are misunderstood of Islam. Saudi claims binladen is misunderstood binladen claims saudi is misunderstood; while some have it better than others, islam still radically slams down liberalism. Evidence? You as a good blue muslim just based liberalism yourself ;) I left Islam, I got back to it, I left it again; I studied it more than you imagine - I'm no longer assed enough to justify bedouinism

[theproudONE92]

@CreepyLizard well thats why u study it so u know first hand who is following islam. and why di du leave islam? =\

[CreepyLizard]

when it by all means goes against liberty and ones freedom. Islam did ease things up more than religions and philosophies before it - but the big picture still nonetheless calls for "Execution of kuffar if they don't get back to islam within 3 days", and death to gays, destroying idols (while we complain when the Quran is burnt) and more shit that invovles torture and restriction of one's beliefs.

[theproudONE92]

@CreepyLizard the execution of an apostate is ONLY if his answers of islam cannot be answered. death to gay that practice homosexuality in public. you need to study sharia a little bit it will clear alot of things. sharia law is not black and white their is many things that have to be caried out before a punishment takes place.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard You are in a messed up state of mind. Why do you think they are wrong? Just because you feel so? If I say the opposite, how would you refute me, with your internal feeling which I can't see? Listen, human morality is subjective for various time and place. If you want an objective morality, you need bring someone who transcends human subjectivity i.e. God. and only God can tell what is wrong and right.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard We have seen the true legacy western liberalism. The ugly face of it. We have seen millions of people killed in iraq and afghanistan men, women and children. We have seen muslim girls raped and burnt by "Liberal" Armies. We have seen "rule of law", "proper trial" at guantanamo and abu gharib. Plenty of great examples to follow. If you don't fall for something, you will fall for anything. That's the problem of western freedom. It will take you to nowhere but chaos.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 lmfao, so when westerners commit human right abuses.. they represent liberalism, but when islamists in Saudi and Iran do, they DON'T represent islam? I see double standards there ;) and you clearly don't understand what liberalism means - Liberalism is freedom; as long as it doesn't hurt anyone or takes freedom from anyone else. If America failed at doing this - then they failed at being liberal; this is no excuse for you to be yearning for a religious dictatorship. :)

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard Well, if the people who have given birth to liberalism and is practicing in their own respective countries are failing, then who would succeed! I think we need to get to heart of the problem. Liberalism doesn't provide an objective moral standpoint. For liberals, good and bad is relative, subject to change. So, when something suits them, they make it a law even if it was bad for them a moment ago. In Islamic worldview, morals are fixed and set by God.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 "Well, if the people who have given birth to liberalism and is practicing in their own respective countries are failing" Hold on a sec, with this logic - one can say the same thing about Saudi Arabia. Where Islamic Shira was born - and where in both our beliefs; its failing the most. As far as I see; Islamic sharia is a failure everywhere, just like communism. As for liberalism - its widely successful, particularly in Europe.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard that was not my logic, rather yours. I think they are practicing liberalism quite well. And we are seeing its fruits. Though they don't always like to practice it for the muslims, but for themselves they do practice. What America and other europian nations are doing is the direct result of their ideals whether it is liberalism, capitalism, democracy etc. Absolute freedom doesn't exist. People are either slaves of each other, of a popular culture or a multi-national company etc.

[CreepyLizard]

Liberalism merely means respect to human rights and making sure people have their freedom - if a country fails to do this for most part, it fails at being liberal - for most part. I'd also like to correct you; for liberals - Good, dignity, and respect to human rights is the main objective overall. As for Islamic worldview; morals are fixed, dare not question them, dare not try to change them, even if they abuse the most basic of human rights - and they do.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard How do prove that "Basic Human Rights" as something "Basic" :)? You can never answer that unless you go to a objective source for moral. And why do you want to question something which is objective. Maybe because you are not sure about it. I think we should come to the question, whether God exist or not and Whether Islam is the truth or not. And can we prove it or not. If we can, you should accept it and not question it. And you can only question if it is not practiced correctly.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 With common sense - you can answer this swiftly, but not while limiting your thoughts under a fixed source. Written by someone else, "god" you say. You're much better than this. Even if Islam is true, even if god does exist, then god would be a dictator - And I'm not convinced he deserves to be worshiped, I'd be better of uncreated. Putting down a law that goes hand-in-hand with the meaning of Dictatorship, which you believe blindy, cause God's all wise almighty.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard If you want to be rebellious with God even if you find He exist, then there is no point of this discussion anymore. Because it seems you don't have any sense anymore. And I don't believe in Allah blindly, in fact I am absolutely certain that He Exist and I have rational evidence for it. And you are the one who is following "liberalism" written by others and following it blindly as you have said "Even if Islam is true........ And I'm not convinced he deserves to be worshiped".

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 Liberalism isn't written - It's a mindset. It's merely to respect people's freedoms as long as they cause no harm to others. It's general common sense. A Muslim can be a liberal too. It's funny how you're so ignorant of liberalism that you'd even think the Afghan and Iraq war happened under it - It's as dumb if not even dumber than the claim that 9/11 happened under "Islam". Most liberals are against the Iraq war (while most conservatives in the US support it)

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard I am not going to debate with you anymore because its not getting anywhere. Moreover, if you continue to be rebellious about truth itself even after knowing its the truth, I can't help you. God is not a man or a material being. So, if you think about Him like that, you have never understood the concept of God in Islam. War of Iraq and Afghanistan were launched IN THE NAME OF "Liberalism". There is not doubt about it. Maybe you do not follow the comments of the western leaders.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 I concluded that the idea of being rebellious towards god would come off as an exotic surprise to you; but as far as he portrays himself; he barely makes a good philosopher, leader, humanitarian and a person of peace - He's merely a being that's gifted with the power to create. I may as well be god chatting with you from the sky right now. would you immediately worship me just by knowing I'm behind your creation? Of course not. Liberate yourself.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard This is my last comment. You did not understand my philosophical argument on subjectivity & objectivity of morality. Or you don't want to understand. Another thing, if you haven't yet, you can debates by Hamza Tzortzis. I am shutting the discussion off. When you will agree to accept the truth, send me a personal message, I will come back.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11  Night bro

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 Try to put it in your regular life scenario - would you vote for a man who is in support of extreme torture, violent execution, and forced worship or one may die within 2 day - in power? Most sensible people wouldn't, and its the same sensible people that would reject the judgement of god. Communication with humanity with an ancient book that's somewhere in a library with thousands others - that we must believe in, Or burn. Dictatorship ya 6aweel il 3omor is 2011's sole enemy. ;)

[CreepyLizard]

And one more thing worth giving another mention since you didn't seem to have heard me the first time - The liberals in America are the ones who are opposing the Iraq and Afghanistan war the most, while the conservative americans, the one yearning for a Christian associated nation, are the ones in support of the war. You can't blame liberalism for the view points of conservatives. They are opposing entities. Like moderate Muslims and radical islamists.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 Pro-liberalism isn't pro-america, if you do some research - you'll see that most liberal in the US are against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those who support the war are mostly conservative ;) the people who want religious qualities in the states

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard Well, both republic and democrats have shown their support for war in one way or another. You may say some are less warmongering in terms of their WORDS, but not with their deeds. The conservatives uses religion for their political interests. If you analyze many of the conservative's personal lives and their families, you would see their so called love for "religiousness". They are an ideological state and historically they have always started war for advancing their ideology.

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 I see the good light of Islam - In fact I'm very thankful for Islam because if you look at statistics; you'd see that countries with a Muslim majority tend to have some of the lowest crime rates in the world. However; you'd also see that countries that adhered more Islamic values than others tend to be more of a police state with severe human rights abuses; I would like to put it this way; If Islam was so perfect, it wouldn't be abused nor misunderstood so widely around the world

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11 So the world I'd like to see is; a country that respects and even encourages Islamic values, but does not enforce Islamic law (or any law of any other religion for that matter) on its people. They have the space to change their religion and do other unislamic activities legally - as long as it causes no direct harm to another person. This is the system practiced in the Gulf aside from KSA - making the Arabian Gulf, from UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and even Bahrain, countries for all

[CreepyLizard]

@beliberated11  However one can't deny that Islamic law - even if not practiced correctly today, still nonetheless restricts liberalism and other means of freedom, replacing it with beheading, torture, and stoning.

[beliberated11]

@CreepyLizard Truth is truth, perfect is perfect even though many people do not know it or do not want to know it. Smoking cigarette is bad for health. But still many people do smoke and many of them even doctors. If some wants to be blind, no one can make them see. Islam is not misunderstood, Islam is not even given to the people in the correct manner. The global media especially western media do not portray Islam in the correct and objective manner.

[CreepyLizard]

To sum it up; how well is the Sharia working in KSA? It's a failure of a system just as the communism system was in Russia

[PhiloAmericana]

@CreepyLizard Indeed. It's pathological.

[CreepyLizard]

I'd rename this video with "The methods to invade nations with a religious ideology" The Arab world had a period of time where it was 'superior'. It fell just as the Chinese, Russian and Persian empire. Today - It's America and the EU's turn. Until they fall - and it's a matter of question who might come up next. However; "Islamism" for sure wouldn't Re-establish a great nation back from the ruins just as old Chinese values wouldn't today.

[beliberated11]

salam bro, I have some khilafah documentary in bengali. I am sure bengali people would find them beneficial. how can I send you those?

[fazzamin]

@beliberated11 salms bro check your messages on youtube, ive sent u an address u can send it to.

ws

[abz2000123]

thank you again for an excellent informative video - i have embedded it,

may God reward you,

peace