@loganshardware And your garagebills skyrocket. It locks the trans in 3rd gear and puts huge stress on it. Just be easy on the throttle in normal mode and both you and the car will be happy :)
At slow speed in snow, my Volvo S80 drives better with the STC off. Presently with the bad ice and snow we have here in the UK, I get better traction with my front tyres at 20psi. This is only temporary and I don't go above 50mph.
I noticed that once with my '99 Chrysler LHS. The tires caked up with ice and the car couldn't shake it off until I disabled the TC. At least the Chrysler (brake only) TC did more good than harm 97% of the time. The system on my '05 Accord Hybrid (with throttle back-off) is much worse; you have to disable it at the slightest hint of snow or ice, or it will act as if the engine has stalled at each intersection. Hondas and Toyotas seem to be known for bad TC systems.
@stalkerpro1 STC is stability control not traction-control. Your car has TRACS (TCS) also, wich is constantly on. DSTC is a newer generation system, wich is a combination of the two.
@scrokostas STC stands for Stability and Traction Control, wich combines ESP ant TRACS. DSTC stands for Dynamic Stability and Traction Control, and is an entirely independend system. (and is vastly superior) Your conclusion is partly true, you can only turn off the traction control bit, not the stability control.
Let this be a full lesson to the uninitiated: Front-wheel-drive cars CANNOT offer better traction than rear-wheel-drive cars - despite the widely circulated rumor.
Not convinced?
Think: How many front-wheel-drive dune buggies have you seen?
Again, the message was for the uninitiated. Clearly, youve come to the knowledge of the shortcomings of FWDs technology through the very expensive lesson of buying one of the things. Sadly, when the foundless techno-rumor (front wheel caws geeev bettuh tractshun!) was first circulated, the automotive industry did nothing, or virtually nothing to dispel the myth.
Yes, maybe RWD cars offer better traction when the road is dry, but don't you think that, when it snows, it's better to have FWD ?
Because, with front wheel drive, you can turn the wheels and 'search' for grip around them whereas RWDs can only go forward and backwards. You see what I mean ?
Now, of course, they aren't better than AWDs, but, on snow, between FWDs and RWDs, I would choose the front wheel drive car.
Very interesting, thanks. I've never thought about the advantage of steering into the best grip with FWD on snow.
I've always thought that 0-60 times always make a RWD car look quicker because RWD can get off the line faster gaining a second or so on FWD. My BMW525d is supposed be 0-60 in 8.0s but it seems about the same performance as my old car which was a Volvo S80 D5 which was supposed to be 0-60 9.5s. On a dry road the BMW is off like a shot but the S80 sat there with spinning wheels!
I think the point is that FWD cars are easier to control in low traction situations - wheras a RWD car in snow or other slippery conditions is potentially lethal to those who don't know how to handle it. Or in other-words - FWD cars are safer for the majority of people.
Hey man. I have that same exact car, except mine is the "metalic green platinum" I just got one but was not able to see how they fair in the snow. Do they do well, I see the STC works good
Yeah, nice car... and STC is a good thing too, it helps you to have max traction, but it doesn't help you while oversteering and understeering. That's why DSTC is better. Never the less it goes up hill on a wet snow with summer tyres... Post some videos with you car!
@NinjTwo I know, I only use it to get out of my steep driveway then I turn it off. When it snows the volvo barely makes it out of my driveway.
loganshardware 6 months ago
@loganshardware Get better tires.
NinjTwo 6 months ago
press the W below the gear shifter that is winter mode it makes snow an ease
loganshardware 9 months ago
@loganshardware And your garagebills skyrocket. It locks the trans in 3rd gear and puts huge stress on it. Just be easy on the throttle in normal mode and both you and the car will be happy :)
NinjTwo 6 months ago
DSTC is better
tuomaril 1 year ago
@tuomaril Definitely!
stalkerpro1 1 year ago
At slow speed in snow, my Volvo S80 drives better with the STC off. Presently with the bad ice and snow we have here in the UK, I get better traction with my front tyres at 20psi. This is only temporary and I don't go above 50mph.
UpMyOwn 2 years ago
I noticed that once with my '99 Chrysler LHS. The tires caked up with ice and the car couldn't shake it off until I disabled the TC. At least the Chrysler (brake only) TC did more good than harm 97% of the time. The system on my '05 Accord Hybrid (with throttle back-off) is much worse; you have to disable it at the slightest hint of snow or ice, or it will act as if the engine has stalled at each intersection. Hondas and Toyotas seem to be known for bad TC systems.
lrd9999 2 years ago
hi...
HenryNguyen123 2 years ago
Need to turn on TCS, because it is off
Dante1969 2 years ago
It is on.
stalkerpro1 2 years ago
@stalkerpro1 STC is stability control not traction-control. Your car has TRACS (TCS) also, wich is constantly on. DSTC is a newer generation system, wich is a combination of the two.
NinjTwo 1 year ago
@NinjTwo Volvo say STC is Stability and Traction-Control. What ever. DSTC rules)
stalkerpro1 1 year ago
@stalkerpro1 that is true
scrokostas 6 months ago
@NinjTwo wrong-STC= spin-traction control...that what it says when i turn it off
scrokostas 6 months ago
@scrokostas STC stands for Stability and Traction Control, wich combines ESP ant TRACS. DSTC stands for Dynamic Stability and Traction Control, and is an entirely independend system. (and is vastly superior) Your conclusion is partly true, you can only turn off the traction control bit, not the stability control.
NinjTwo 6 months ago
@NinjTwo on my volvo s60 k4 traction control and stability(esp) are turned off
scrokostas 6 months ago
Let this be a full lesson to the uninitiated: Front-wheel-drive cars CANNOT offer better traction than rear-wheel-drive cars - despite the widely circulated rumor.
Not convinced?
Think: How many front-wheel-drive dune buggies have you seen?
Hmmm?
Are true, drag-race cars all RWD?
You bet.
neatoauctions 3 years ago
so what?
stalkerpro1 3 years ago
Again, the message was for the uninitiated. Clearly, youve come to the knowledge of the shortcomings of FWDs technology through the very expensive lesson of buying one of the things. Sadly, when the foundless techno-rumor (front wheel caws geeev bettuh tractshun!) was first circulated, the automotive industry did nothing, or virtually nothing to dispel the myth.
neatoauctions 3 years ago
As far as I understood you want to say that RWD is better than FWD? Or I missed the point(sorry english is not my native language)
stalkerpro1 3 years ago
Rear-wheel-drive cars offer better traction than FWD cars - when the cars are driven in a forward direction. Yes, that's my point.
However, FWD cars do have the advantage of fewer moving (drivetrain) parts, which results in better gas mileage (kilometerage?).
neatoauctions 3 years ago
Yes, FWD has less traction if you go up hill. But if you go down hill, engine braking is more useful with FWD. So AWD is the best choice.
stalkerpro1 3 years ago
Yes, maybe RWD cars offer better traction when the road is dry, but don't you think that, when it snows, it's better to have FWD ?
Because, with front wheel drive, you can turn the wheels and 'search' for grip around them whereas RWDs can only go forward and backwards. You see what I mean ?
Now, of course, they aren't better than AWDs, but, on snow, between FWDs and RWDs, I would choose the front wheel drive car.
Am I wrong ?
Cizeur84 3 years ago
Oui ! U're right! RWD on snow maybe better for a professional driver. But for less experienced driver FWD is easier to control on snow.
stalkerpro1 3 years ago
Very interesting, thanks. I've never thought about the advantage of steering into the best grip with FWD on snow.
I've always thought that 0-60 times always make a RWD car look quicker because RWD can get off the line faster gaining a second or so on FWD. My BMW525d is supposed be 0-60 in 8.0s but it seems about the same performance as my old car which was a Volvo S80 D5 which was supposed to be 0-60 9.5s. On a dry road the BMW is off like a shot but the S80 sat there with spinning wheels!
UpMyOwn 2 years ago
I think the point is that FWD cars are easier to control in low traction situations - wheras a RWD car in snow or other slippery conditions is potentially lethal to those who don't know how to handle it. Or in other-words - FWD cars are safer for the majority of people.
arumdevil 3 years ago 2
Haha I keep watching this video. I love those rims!
cruiseman3211 3 years ago
these are the best! i love them too...
stalkerpro1 3 years ago
get a life!
southbristolsfinest 3 years ago
Чаво?
stalkerpro1 3 years ago
Hey man. I have that same exact car, except mine is the "metalic green platinum" I just got one but was not able to see how they fair in the snow. Do they do well, I see the STC works good
cruiseman3211 3 years ago
Yeah, nice car... and STC is a good thing too, it helps you to have max traction, but it doesn't help you while oversteering and understeering. That's why DSTC is better. Never the less it goes up hill on a wet snow with summer tyres... Post some videos with you car!
stalkerpro1 3 years ago