What do you stupid fucks have to say now who were saying that there was no molten metal or thermitic material found at ground zero? Peer reviewed scientific evidence has been presented and you still don't acknowledge it. Besides that, professional analysis of the aircraft that allegedly hit their targets that day pose their own problems as to speed. Structural failure should have taken those planes down at that speed.
@Daddyo930 What speed were the aircraft supposedly travelling when they hit, also does anyone know the maximum speed a 767 can fly at, at sea level? Those basics facts should be easy to find but are strangely absent from many discussions. Some estimates were 560mph which would exceed the mach rating of the aircraft.
@apbriggs07 The aircraft, according to data from NTSB, FEMA and NORAD put the speeds at 420 and 510 knots. Boeing has a VMO/MMO flight limitations review. In it, nowhere on the graph do you see any speed above 350 KIAS.
One of the WTC design engineers, Leslie Robertson, had denied that people saw molten steel in the Ground Zero rubble. A video surfaced recently showing that in 2002 he claimed he had seen "a little river of molten steel" himself.
The moten metal was probably aluminum since it melts at the temperatures that were present after the towers fell and there was an abundant amount in the buildings. There's no evidence for temperatures high enough to melt steel. As for Steve Jones, to understand his 'evidence' you first have to look at the man. He's made many spurious claims based on flimsy evidence. I'll assume he's talking about daffy duck for all I care until somebody who has credibility can analyze it.
How did this guy get on C-SPAN? What a joke. I guess they gotta give people their say, but I worry what kind of people are watching it. Do they actually believe this?
I'm not a truther. I don't think the gov. did it but I read blogs of people saying Jones evidence is a joke and he's a nut. I'd be willing to bet you people literally have no idea what he's saying so how can you say he's wrong? This guy has been a respected physics professer since before most of you were born and now he say's what he believes so he's nuts? And being called nuts and questioned by people who misspell half the words in their blogs. Now that's nuts!
Ofcourse the Bush regime did it. Have you any idea how many Americans this administration has murdered over their lies? Where is your proof Bin Laden was involved? The FBI doesn't even have such proof. If you repect professor Jones that much, then respect his research as well, as it leaves little room for speculation as to what was happening in the towers. And it sure wasn't an Al Qaeda team lacing nanothermate all over the core columns.
FDNY and other eyewitnesses at the excavation of ground zero report molten metal in the basements of the buildings 5 WEEKS after 9/11.
Satelite records verify this showing just under 1400 F SURFACE TEMPERATURE at ground zero up to 5 weeks later.
watch?v=D9qEIlNVl5s
I'm not sure we can trust guys like Alex Jones and David Icke. It seems their objective is to pretend to lead dissent while trying to control, belittle, and discredit those who are dissenting.
So moron Jones thinks that molten metal in a MEMORIAL that was likely put together by ... hmmmm ... welding somehow proves something about the original source of the metal??
This is a complete joke. He is a fool, so obviously saying anything, no matter how illogical, ill-founded or just plain stupid, to prove his nutbar conspiracy theories.
Slag from the cutting of the piece, that's exactly what I was thinking and how could this "Professor" miss this? Probably because he has NO real world experience in cutting welding metal?
Exactly right, Wez666...Jones found NOT A TRACE of barium nitrate (a key thermite/ate marker) in the WTC rubble...also, the amount of sulfur found does not match the amount of thermite/ate which would be required to cause collapse...
On youtube see
9/11 DEBUNKED: THERMITE CHEMICAL SIGNATURES DISPROVEN
The odds that molten metal fragments from a thermite cut then going through the violent collapse would end up inside dirt stuck to the column are astronomical. However, the odds that molten metal from a cutting torch would be there are pretty darn good. Also, the higher the floor, the thinner the metal, yet Jones makes no effort to verify which floor the metal came from. I posted this video with the assumption that the viewer was able to use basic, common sense. Please do so.
What do you stupid fucks have to say now who were saying that there was no molten metal or thermitic material found at ground zero? Peer reviewed scientific evidence has been presented and you still don't acknowledge it. Besides that, professional analysis of the aircraft that allegedly hit their targets that day pose their own problems as to speed. Structural failure should have taken those planes down at that speed.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 What speed were the aircraft supposedly travelling when they hit, also does anyone know the maximum speed a 767 can fly at, at sea level? Those basics facts should be easy to find but are strangely absent from many discussions. Some estimates were 560mph which would exceed the mach rating of the aircraft.
apbriggs07 2 months ago
@apbriggs07 The aircraft, according to data from NTSB, FEMA and NORAD put the speeds at 420 and 510 knots. Boeing has a VMO/MMO flight limitations review. In it, nowhere on the graph do you see any speed above 350 KIAS.
Daddyo930 2 months ago
@Daddyo930 Thanks, that's between 483 and 586mph.
apbriggs07 2 months ago
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One of the WTC design engineers, Leslie Robertson, had denied that people saw molten steel in the Ground Zero rubble. A video surfaced recently showing that in 2002 he claimed he had seen "a little river of molten steel" himself.
See my video:
The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers
punxsutawneybarney 7 months ago
The moten metal was probably aluminum since it melts at the temperatures that were present after the towers fell and there was an abundant amount in the buildings. There's no evidence for temperatures high enough to melt steel. As for Steve Jones, to understand his 'evidence' you first have to look at the man. He's made many spurious claims based on flimsy evidence. I'll assume he's talking about daffy duck for all I care until somebody who has credibility can analyze it.
gukonni 1 year ago
How did this guy get on C-SPAN? What a joke. I guess they gotta give people their say, but I worry what kind of people are watching it. Do they actually believe this?
gukonni 1 year ago
The FBI polygraphers will clean-up this mess.
Google "Quadri-Track ZCT"
WTCnucleardemolition 2 years ago
I'm not a truther. I don't think the gov. did it but I read blogs of people saying Jones evidence is a joke and he's a nut. I'd be willing to bet you people literally have no idea what he's saying so how can you say he's wrong? This guy has been a respected physics professer since before most of you were born and now he say's what he believes so he's nuts? And being called nuts and questioned by people who misspell half the words in their blogs. Now that's nuts!
mikebuhroo 3 years ago
Ofcourse the Bush regime did it. Have you any idea how many Americans this administration has murdered over their lies? Where is your proof Bin Laden was involved? The FBI doesn't even have such proof. If you repect professor Jones that much, then respect his research as well, as it leaves little room for speculation as to what was happening in the towers. And it sure wasn't an Al Qaeda team lacing nanothermate all over the core columns.
loccysmif 3 years ago
@mikebuhroo
jones evidence is a joke. Many physics, chemists and structural engineers agree that he is an idiot.
taledarkside 1 year ago
watch?v=D9qEIlNVl5s
FDNY and other eyewitnesses at the excavation of ground zero report molten metal in the basements of the buildings 5 WEEKS after 9/11.
Satelite records verify this showing just under 1400 F SURFACE TEMPERATURE at ground zero up to 5 weeks later.
watch?v=D9qEIlNVl5s
I'm not sure we can trust guys like Alex Jones and David Icke. It seems their objective is to pretend to lead dissent while trying to control, belittle, and discredit those who are dissenting.
PsyberSourcerer 3 years ago
Jones thinks 9/11 Truth is a 'game'.
How very appropriate.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
So moron Jones thinks that molten metal in a MEMORIAL that was likely put together by ... hmmmm ... welding somehow proves something about the original source of the metal??
This is a complete joke. He is a fool, so obviously saying anything, no matter how illogical, ill-founded or just plain stupid, to prove his nutbar conspiracy theories.
ghk13287 3 years ago
You've gotta be shitting. Occam just got shot in the face by the Truth Movement.
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago
Slag from the cutting of the piece, that's exactly what I was thinking and how could this "Professor" miss this? Probably because he has NO real world experience in cutting welding metal?
arkgunslinger 4 years ago
Also on youtube see
9/11 WTC 'GROUND ZERO' FOOTAGE
which clearly shows core columns being cut by construction workers during cleanup, not by thermite/ate 'shape charges.'
Elkahatchee9 4 years ago
and Jones calls himself a "scholar". Bwhaa! What a joke his so called evidence is!
Wez666 4 years ago
Exactly right, Wez666...Jones found NOT A TRACE of barium nitrate (a key thermite/ate marker) in the WTC rubble...also, the amount of sulfur found does not match the amount of thermite/ate which would be required to cause collapse...
On youtube see
9/11 DEBUNKED: THERMITE CHEMICAL SIGNATURES DISPROVEN
Elkahatchee9 4 years ago 3
The cutting torch does not leave the same chemical traces as thermite/thermate.
BladeMcCool 5 years ago 3
The odds that molten metal fragments from a thermite cut then going through the violent collapse would end up inside dirt stuck to the column are astronomical. However, the odds that molten metal from a cutting torch would be there are pretty darn good. Also, the higher the floor, the thinner the metal, yet Jones makes no effort to verify which floor the metal came from. I posted this video with the assumption that the viewer was able to use basic, common sense. Please do so.
blogologist 5 years ago
@blogologist magnesium and sulfate are not a biproduct of cutting steel. they are on the otherhand Key ingredients in thermal charges.
macchef01 1 month ago