100 round AR15 drum magazine

[KatotownUSA]

Just got my KCI AR mag...it is impossibly hard to load. I could only get 12 rounds in and I'm dead serious. Do you think there's something wrong with it? I mean this is ridiculous, I'm a strong guy and I've loaded mags with ease before.

[pontiacmaniac2]

@KatotownUSA I dont know what to say, I have one of the KCI beta mags, and it works well, Did yours come with the 5rd loader?

[KatotownUSA]

@pontiacmaniac2 I sent it back to the manufacturer and found out that my drum was defective, and they also sent me the wrong speed loader, a 10 round loader for a mini14. It was a huge hassle and I would advise anyone looking at a KCI drum, go to cheaper than dirt's website and spend the extra 60 bucks to get a real beta mag. The cool factor isn't worth it for me after my experience.

[Boogiethrash]

@KatotownUSA yeah, its a bitch. I used the "handy loader" and had to Kung Fu flat fist em in. It should work though. Mine was super tight when I first got it. Worked great though. Just make sure its seated properly. It may look like its int here but its not. give em a good smack on the behind to be sure..

[TheVenom1968]

Australia sux were not aloud to have anything like this .. Anything Full Auto is not aloud Semi Auto not Aloud hell air-soft guns we are not aloud to have Paint ball guns we have to have a firearm license to own one ..

[wesleysnipessss]

can you get beta c mags in 5.45x39 or 7.62x39? I've never seen one but I've heard people say they do exist

[WeAreTwoDoorsDown]

Do you plan on doing some videos about the Glock Beta Mag?

[moptim]

the 75rd ak mag looks a bit more hammered and heavy and east bloc-ish.. but that makes it beautiful :P and it's maybe of a more sound design

[TheAlexagius]

these mags got balls lol

[SuperRip7]

nice shape of the drum

[PXNielsen]

Now this is what my platoon needs for our LSWs.

[iZallen]

Can you explain why there are black bullets inside the Beta-C magazine?

[GunWebsites]

@iZallen

they are to guide the 'real' rounds as they are fed

[YeahImSkillful]

@GunWebsites Is there anyway to take those snap caps out w/o disammsebling the whole mag?

[KatotownUSA]

@GunWebsites so that stays in there? I was confused if I was supposed to take them out or something. Good thing I didn't force it :)

[thatheory6969]

@GunWebsites hello is beta the best mag to get for the AR 15 i have a smith&wesson AR

[GOREBAGZZZ]

@iZallen yea they are like the follower that you see in normal dbl stacks



[rbgi31]

How many rnds can those drums hold behind the Beta C-mag?

[pigidly]

stupid question, does the AR15 magazine fit the C7 riffle?

[AngeredKabar]

@pigidly Yes. They are practically the same rifle except the C7 has some minor differences and is made by Colt's Canadian division.

C7 upper receiver is a very robust and practical configuration for someone that is just going to be using iron sights.

[GunWebsites]

@pokefreak001

you are the expert on them

[BIGGxDAWG210]

@Nick718BkLyN a 22 can go threw a refrigerator,40 and 45 can go threw bricks,rock siding would be the best.

[angelofdef1]

in briton you get fucked up by the police for haveing a airsoft bb gun what dont even draw blood

[TheAlexagius]

@Nick718BkLyN but new york has an assult weapons ban

[TheAlexagius]

@Nick718BkLyN I think that a shogun is better 1 shot kill a whole in your chesti mean most crime is in the city but most some people don't have $1000 to spend on a rifle, a decent shotgun can be got for about $400.

[TheAlexagius]

@Nick718BkLyN well the AR suffers over penetration which if you have wood walls is very bad as you could kill neighbours and residents( wife husband kids)

[aval1998]

A.K.A  balls of "steel"

[uskecyh88]

when was the last time you needed to pump someone full of 100 5.56 Nato rounds from the prone position? ambush a dog taking a dump on your lawn much?

[GunWebsites]

@uskecyh88

go back on your meds

[bmc551]

@GunWebsites ha

[urbansurvivor101]

@GunWebsites hey man how you doin? How are the KCI beta mags? are they reliable?

[imzchry]

@GunWebsites Yeah haha its called not having to reload during the firefight which makes all the difference in a combat scenario and it's probably hella fun to shoot at a range dude..

[airsoftdovani]

@uskecyh88 DID U FORGET NAM

[itstony45]

@uskecyh88 oh man, someone can work the google magic. let me guess, graduated basic training all of 2 months ago, still all pumped up and feeling like the shit? that feeling goes away, so go back to your E-1 lifestyle.

[UndergradPigeon]

@uskecyh88 That's totally not the idea, but that was fucking hilarious. Well played, sir.

[spyderc85]

@uskecyh88 what does it matter how many rds a magazine can hold, if he wants to shoot 100 rds out of 1 magazine thats his right.

[24snakeman]

@uskecyh88 i would soo do that

[TheFirecracker75]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the AR-15 is the civilian model of the M16, which cannot legally have an automatic capability. So, it's mainly used for target practice right?

[TheAlexagius]

@TheFirecracker75 well some ar 15s are full auto , and some stokks like the ssar15 simulate automatic fire with a 750 ish fire rate, aside for defence you can use for self defence, not on a street but you know a safty fo a tyranical government/ law and order breakdown like in LA

[montanaboy187]

@eastofakron2 wen crouching down while shooting

[rey1933]

Missouri has very little as well =]]]]]]

[waseem1173]

so does it empties one side of the mag first then the other or extract one from either side .

[epicutubemembername]

looks like a pair of testes LOL

so it should put the manliness in the AR 15 :)

[winnerboi102]

@Silent14389 Yes... It would do that. LMAO

[SethMus]

aint seen this model in a long time, where u bought it from?

[MrBoom9111]

looks like a chode.

[jonnyjumpsalot]

Im not from America. So excuse me when i ask this.

What states have the least gun controls, and what states have the most? Just curious if they follow some kind of geographical pattern.

[GunWebsites]

@jonnyjumpsalot

states with big cities have the most restrictions, they also have the most crime and the most people

[TitanTony407]

@GunWebsites will one of those mags fit into a Kel Tec the same as any other AR magazine?

[GunWebsites]

@TitanTony407

yup, usually

[MrBoom9111]

@jonnyjumpsalot sorry for spelling but texas and arizonia have the lest gun laws and california has the most.

[jonnyjumpsalot]

@MrBoom9111

Ah ok, thanks! :)

[GunWebsites]

@MrBoom9111

and Vermont, Alaska and Wyoming

[MsBowhunter95]

@GunWebsites and mississippi and alabama dont foreget us southaern boys!!!

[sk8wise12]

@GunWebsites Colorado is pretty loose on their laws too.

[moptim]

@MrBoom9111 afaik new york has strict laws too? dunno then whether california has stricter (hard to tell from the other side of atlantic :)

[RyanMMurphy2]

@jonnyjumpsalot Vermont only follows federal firearms laws

[agumon12]

@jonnyjumpsalot

Texas, Arizona, South Dakota, Montana Alabama, Missisippi. Take your pick.

[jonnyjumpsalot]

@agumon12

What about Utah?

[slothdaddy007]

@jonnyjumpsalot My state of kentucky has no restrictive state gun laws

[BodyBuilder030]

@jonnyjumpsalot ARIZONA has the least strict laws. No license to carry concealed now

[toppgunn2232]

@jonnyjumpsalot i know california has alot of restrictions dont know if they have the most and i also know that kentucky has the largest machine gun shoot in the states for what ever that is worth!

[topgunner16]

@jonnyjumpsalot montana has the lease strick gun laws and 90% of the population gas guns also its the safest state in the us

[knetterwauz010]

@eastofakron2

Google is your friend

[pontiacmaniac2]

what brand? i have seen the ones from KCI that are about half the cost, but dependablity is my number one priority. My life depends on this weapon and it's accesories.

[IMFDB]

Not interested in buying an AR-15 part that's going to interfere with me pushing the bolt release button. Not even with a Magpul BAD lever.

[Clavsicus]

Would that fit into any weapon using AR-15 magazines? like the French FAMAS? or SA80? or FN SCAR-L etc?

[GunWebsites]

@eastofakron2

Questions are fine, thats how all of us learn

Prone is lying down on your stomach

[Hallowedpointdtp]

it seems like if you use a shorter ar or m4 design with a foregrip close the the rear of the rail on the front of the weapon the drum tends to get in the way a bit... but still pretty nice to have 100 rounds to spend before reloading...

[puckdogpilot]

i dont think you got enough clips/mags

[DerRai80]

Ohh, thanks alot for getting me all amped-up and then not finishing the deal.....I was really hoping to see it in use! :)

[joecoolbackinschool]

i like it cuz it looks like a dick

[acm89ify]

civilian use???????????????????????

[GunWebsites]

@acm89ify

and?

[nyclaybreaker]

@acm89ify

Yes civilians can use them IF your state allows magazines with high capacity...FOR EXAMPLE....I live in NY State. NYS says that my mag can have no more than 10 rounds UNLESS the magazine was made before the assauly weapons ban that passed in 1974

[GunWebsites]

@nyclaybreaker

I am not aware of anything in 1974.. 1994?

[nyclaybreaker]

@GunWebsites

sorry...brain fart

[brothadave]

@acm89ify Sometimes civies want to have fun too!

[carlosboo1]

that will be handy when theres a zombie apocalipse

[hazeleyestud]

since this is a AR15 MAg and AR 223 regular mags fit the SIG SAUER 556 SWAT ... would this drum also fit the SIG SAUER 556 SWAT????????????????????????

[Kylef7735]

@hazeleyestud If it uses AR mags, yes.

And it would be alot easier to read if you just typed normally.

[MyLilNinjakilla]

it is a penis magazine

[SoCalAirs0ft]

@MyLilNinjakilla And you are stupid. Your point? The C-Mag beta mag has two drums.

[Wookie1234567]

Drums take so sooooo long to load.

[Shipwreck76]

I have three beta mags. Two are completely black and one has a clear back. They work well, loading is simple with the loading tool, nothing to take apart. The graphite lube I only use once in a blue moon. The two black mags are for zoombie day and the clear I use at the range. I don't go ape shit when useing them, to avoid over heating my gas tube and barrel as my AR S&W M&P T isn't designed for full auto. Other than that, no issues to date.

[Shipwreck76]

I have three beta mags. Two are completely black and one has a clear back. They work well, loading is simple with the loading tool, nothing to take apart. The graphite lube I only use once in a blue moon. The two black mags are for zoombie day and the clear I use at the range. I don't go ape shit when useing them, to avoid over heating my gas tube and barrel as my AR S&W M&P T isn't designed for full auto.

[arandomperson3]

I know you can't fit the .50 beowulf in a standard STANAG mag but I wonder if they've made extended/drum mags for the .50? Man if I had that thing full auto with a 100 drum, nothing I looked at would survive.

[FiedtheNeedIT1]

Haha, Phallus-15

[111E982a]

@SzwarcuPL with the penis too. XD

[Cryptically]

I think I just saw mickey mouse

[111E982a]

looks like a pair of boobs. =P

[robby707aus]

How does the reliability between the two compare? I've heard the betas require some kind of graphite lube and they don't always run 100% but I've never heard of problems with the AK drums.

[MrJbd420]

i got my AR-15 a beta c mag and it is awesome reminded me of M16A4 that i used in service but hella more ammo and full auto

[rauliont]

I think i read somewhere M16/4 mags and HK 416 mags are the same? if so would a M16/4 C-mag fit a HK 416?

[victorrain]

When you loaded the spacers, do you load the rest of the rounds like that? Like a regular magazine? And the spacers have to be placed before any rounds?

[GunWebsites]

@victorrain

yup, that is all correct

[victorrain]

@GunWebsites Thanks for answering, but why do the spacers have to be loaded first?

[GunWebsites]

@victorrain

not sure

[AtomicAtari]

@victorrain i would say so it has room to push it up the feed clip from the drum housing. it would be hard to make the mechanics of it change from pushing from the drum to up the feed clip. know what i mean?

[victorrain]

@AtomicAtari Sort of, the spacers help ease the spring pressure from the drum so rounds can feed easier from the clip?

[AtomicAtari]

@victorrain its wouldnt say its the pressure, its just the mechanical transfer from from the drum to the feed clip, it would be hard to make something go from a vertical line then split into two separate spirals. it would be easier to have the spacers so you dont need to do that transfer. i dont think im explaining it well but i hope you know what i mean ~_~

[19nisey69]

@victorrain

The spacers are already in the drum and attached. These are necessary to push the remaining bullets up into the 20 round (box section). They are just like a regular magazine follower. The difference is they need a bullet like shape to follow the real bullets into the drum which has motches for holding the bullets in place.

[LuLyouMaD]

@victorrain I dont because im from the moon, I do what i want when i want, We have triple quad lazer beams...

[inkbot2000]

I really doubt that would work well on a bullpup gun such as the famas

[LesBaer619]

I heard back in the day these were like $50 or something in California before the 10 rd mag capacity law? Plz correct me if I'm wrong.

[19nisey69]

@LesBaer619

They were never that cheap. They were around the $200-$250 mark. Then, the gun ban pushed prices up to $500 or so. Now they are back where they started.

[Harky88]

@19nisey69 dude for 500 dollars i can buy whole new AK + fully loaded drum magazine or two

[Juanox333]

Hey bro, Ive got a question! The 100 round AR15 drum magazine could be used on AK47!? Because I have seen on some guys that they use this magazine on an AK47!? Is that possible?! Or there's another look like this but for AK47!?

[19nisey69]

@Juanox333

It's not even close to the same arrangement. The AK's already have hi cap drums for them, so a C-mag isn't necessary.

[KoronofHearts]

....Accursed New Jersey....

[TheCashistrash]

looks too heavy and cumberson for the size i rather use the 42 round magazines

[videofreakmanic123]

Looks lik a tiny dick and huge balls

[Moosezorz]

Thanks for the video. I dislike the look of the Beta C-mag, for it looks like balls. I haven't seen one, so please tell me, is there a single drum 5.56mm magazine?

[GunWebsites]

@Moosezorz

yes and it looks like one giant ball.. so if thats what you prefer..

[Big2000Powerstroke]

@GunWebsites lawl :D

[solidfreak123]

Dual drums FTW

[adam648374692865]

You own all this?

[PS2djX]

what strange black metally cartridges are there ?!

[GunWebsites]

@PS2djX

Those are 'spacers' or something that stay in there to help the ammo feed correctly

[PS2djX]

@GunWebsites thanks , so interesting , i like so much all weapons !

[lancaster4314]

Your dummy rounds are not in correctly.

[glitchez]

lol i think the whole m16 family jams no matter what mag you got

[19nisey69]

@glitchez

That's not true at all. I have an AR15 which never jammed, and my personal M16A1 I used in the army from 85-89 never had issues, even with blanks. It was how tight the adapter was mounted. i could drop 30 rounds in blanks or live ammo without a hitch.

[glitchez]

@19nisey69 very rare indeed you got lucky

[dunnboytt]

i don't own one myself but i heard they are plastic pieces of junk. i heard the last ten bullets you put in feel like the lips are going to break. i also heard that they rattle a lot.

[GunWebsites]

good points, but these do have their place and uses

[iluvmym4]

Bata mag's are bad ass! You can find the their add on YouTube! There is also a 150

rd duble drum made by another company!

[Morris1962]

Could you tell us a little about how reliable they are, any special care needed, and of course shoot with them. Thanks for uploading.

[GunWebsites]

too costly to shoot them .. sorry I just don't have a spare 100 rounds for a video ($50)

They did have some graphite lube.. but I've only used these for target shooting.. I'll leave reviews to the guys who really used these

I hear they are fairly reliable, just not useful for everyone

[ConditionRedDawn]

the beta drums empty at the same rate tho right? so that there isn't any left to right gun balance issues.

[GunWebsites]

correct, good point

[TMHonfire101]

Nice vid

[blackquiver]

wonder why there is no clear back 4 the pistol and 30 round mags?...but yet u can get the beta in clear...hummmmmmmm

[GunWebsites]

because clear polymer has never worked well.. the back of the beta drim is a fairly non- impact zone so it's OK to have the less strong material there

They guy (or gal) who invents a STRONG clear polymer will be rich

[1cme1]

haha it sucks that it costs 50 bucks to fully load one of those.

[GunWebsites]

well here in Tucson.. $9 fer a 20 round box (which is high IMO) so it would be a little less

But it's not like the days when 1000 rounds was $99

[weewoodeal]

lol i miss thoughs days so much... it cost me 225 bucks now :(

[joethecrow23]

Out here in California, its about twice that for 20 rounds... sucks, but I keep forking over the cash. With all the new bs ammunition regulation laws they just dropped on us in this state, I'm going to be making some trips out to Nevadah and Arizona a few times a year where they still acknowledge the constitution and buy up as much ammo as I can afford.

[2muchwatching]

my favorite magazine; big ones :D

[IIGaMeSlaVe540II]

cool

[rstora01]

probably could go prone on the AK mag with a bipod installed.

[GunWebsites]

sure, or just shoot off of the drum, the AKs just can't get as low as the ARs can