Islam in Europe - When Muslims Ruled in Europe Part 9/11

[shereenil9]

There isn't any proof that Arabs got the concept of 0 from Indians.

[TheGreaterGood80]

Mayans and Toltecs invented zero

[captsaja]

wrong, Jamsheed did, his father was an Arab, mother from Persia.

Control your hate and you will find the truth

[TheGreaterGood80]

Mesoamericans developed zero in the fourth century BCE, long before ANY middle eastern cultures had monotheistic beliefs.

Confront your delusion and you will find reality

[captsaja]

Can I have your evidence please.!

[TheGreaterGood80]

Look it up yourself. The evidence is there

[captsaja]

Sorry you made the claim, you prove it, besides, lets assume for a moment that they discovered or invented the Zero, their civilization died before passing anything on.

The fact is, Europe launched their Renaissance only after exposure to the Andalusian civilisation and science. I had the pleasure of reading maths at university in London, My lecturer who was a proper English Gentleman enjoyed researching Muslim and Arab mathematichians from the time of the Caliphate in baghdad to Andalus

[shaq12008]

@ Glitzyside: please before saying any uncorrect thing, as for the number Zero, you have to bring evidence . they did contrebute to the developement of science and they DID invent this number. concerning the country where Fabunacci studied it is Bouge a nick name to a north east town in AlgEria now adays called Bejaia. it was called Bouge because it was the homeland of many scholar.

Please do not argue with fools !

[algeria888]

@ Glitzyside: please before saying any uncorrect thing, as for the number Zero, you have to bring evidence . they did contrebute to the developement of science and they DID invent this number. concerning the country where Fabunacci studied it is Bouge a nick name to a north east town in AlgEria now adays called Bejaia. it was called Bouge because it was the homeland of many scholar.

[forzaitalia2]

so, is she saying muslims invented the new numeric writing? very good

[glitzyside]

I think they simply stole the zero from India and established the new complete system ...although these number dident become the NORM untill 1400 where Fabunacci (Italian mechant and later mathematician) brought them to Europe from the place where he studied Math: Boujie (Bejaia) in Algiria

[forzaitalia2]

thanks for that. so were muslims responsible for all these advancements that this lady seems to be so delighfully about happy for them. or did muslims simple take all informations from previous empires/scholers and have people work for them so that they could be said to be the works of Islam?

[glitzyside]

Well, cuz Islam was the firsm phenomenon in History to bring about Peace+Prosperity+Openness to all innovations and new scientific ideas + the religion itself requires the pple to seek knowledge. Thats why the woman is attributing things to Islam. Meanwhile, they dident simply take the number from India and Sin/Cosin from greeks => they invented Algebra and moden trigonometry ... so they refined, developed and created new stuff based on the heritage of what they conquered

[handcoffs]

There is no proof for your hypothesis.. The first evidence of the zero was made by the Muslims. No by Indiean or chinese or whatsoever

[xShariNgaN01x]

why don't you try to prove your claim? You see all these materials and scholars giving their commentaries and showing evidence yet you make this blatant lie. God have mercy on your poor ignorant soul.

Humans achievements should be appreciated and celebrated regardless of the race, religion, and culture of a particular group. This is a concept very hard to embrace for those whose hearts are filled with hate.

[zorro14142]

I agree that Humans achievements should be appreciated and celebrated regardless of the race, religion, and culture of a particular group. However this program is arrogant and propagandistic. And Bettany very biased in what she presents and the way she presents it.

[balamanti2]

This report is biased. The fact is that Arabs and muslims learnt a lot from Spin. because you do not see same evidence of achitecture and sciences in other arab-islamic countries like Al-Andalus. 2nd Crusaders and greek ave arabs lots of Ideas and culture when then invaded. this report is just an Islamic propaganda

[xShariNgaN01x]

Wow your comments are so backwards, ignorant, and hateful. Just to let you know Overwhelming majority of the scholar concerning the subject would slap you backwards for making such false accusations. Why don't you read early texts of St. Thomas Aquinas, Augistine, early practices of medicine? It's standard history and it shows lots of Arabic influence via Spain.

[alphamain]

balamanti...you can join the crude crusaders for all I care...

[shabandragaj]

i don't thing so, islam was well befor greek's, and it was from the first day,and WILL REMAIN till last day

[Aegialeus]

"They translated all Greek knowledge!!!???"

Hmmm

[Aegialeus]

"explosion of knowledge that started in Arabia!!!???"

[khalifa987]

Well muslims don't have hidden societies...everything is open....koran is our cornerstone and reason is our guide.

[shabandragaj]

there is no senc living without islam ?

[bojabjab]

Lol sure thing man.. just let us know when anything new happens, keep us updated plz.

[only1duk]

You will know when shit starts happening :)

[bojabjab]

and all thats happening now is nothing? its already happening..

u see empires rise and fall, some fall dramatically and some fade away, history proves that.

[only1duk]

Exactly, but you and I both know that only the TRUE kindness, and goodness will prevail these terrible times :)

I believe science will keep us (the human race) alive to outgrow religion and make a new start here after whatever tragic wars await us

GOOD LUCK

[Mystefier]

Christianity and Islam are both religions started with good intentions and misused by INDIVIDUALS with corrupt intentions. Every individual has the choice of good or evil regardless of their culture and upbringing. The problem is people are too lazy to judge individual actions rather then large groups of people.

[only1duk]

I think Islam and Christianity, if interpreted LITERALLY, are both VERY WRONG, controlling mechanisms which we should have grown out of hundreds of years ago.

Freedom of speech, and expression is far more important for mankind at the moment, than the fragile imaginations of a self-deluded religious nutters.

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IS WHAT MAKES US HUMAN.

[Changoyomi]

I agree with what you are saying. However, I think all religions can be beautiful as long as you don't try to wack someone else over the head with it. One can be free and in that freedom praise Creator and do good in the world. I am not Islamic, but I respect it, just like I respect others. I don't like extremism in ANY belief system. But, the majority of the people who practice any given religion are peaceful people who seek to be enlightened.

[Mystefier]

Well said. My thoughts as well.

[only1duk]

If they are so clever, then why is their homeland ravaged by war....

They are clever in a sense to escape and come to europe introduce fresh ideas, then TAKE OVER with the rule of sharia being the main priority.

[bojabjab]

lol we have war because the western world are attacking those areas, because of the injustice caused by states such as israel on the indigenous ppl of palestine. Differentiate between politics and religion plz.