EVOLUTION IN ISLAM VS. DARWINISM 1/5 (ISLAM AHMADIYYA)

[fuzy89]

hey guys calm down it is god who knows if they knew there is a propablity that there is god or they were not convinced that there is a probablity of a god ... if any body search honstly without pride and ego .... god will lead him the way to truth .... with ego and pride ... god will give him reasons to be more refusing and then punishes him ... and in the end only god judges not us :)

[FANADICALCOWHEAD]

@fuzy89

All religious books are man made. If there is a god (Which I believe in) He wouldn't judge those on how often we go to church, what we eat, or how we live. He would Judge us on our morality, how we treat others. There's no way anyone can deny Evolution there is simply too much evidence to refute it. Religious books have no actual evidence of anything and without evidence there is no case.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@FANADICALCOWHEAD I can certainly understand where you are coming from, I can understand why you hold such views. However, my belief is that if there is God (in which I strongly believe) then we should be able to create a living relationship with Him. How does one create relationship. Our morality, and treatment to others certainly plays a very important role, however discarding worship altogether can never be good. Worship doesn't benefit anyone but the one who performs it with pure heart.

[AFGknight]

Lol evolution is evolution is evolution. I don't know why these Islamic scholars say "oh yeah we believe in evolution......BUT..." Then it is not evolution. An organized evolution is intelligent design. Get your shit straight.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@AFGknight Yes and an intelligent design as evolution is not possible without a God. I don't undertand what you are trying to prove here.

[AFGknight]

@IslamAhmadiya I am trying to say that you are ridiculous and everything you stand for is ridiculous. Allah made us how we are yet there is evidence that we have a common ancestor with the great apes? Is allah trying to trick us?? Why did allah make us resemble the great apes? Stop trying to fit in ideas that don't fit in. Allah is an unjust, deceiving god. I would rather burn in hellfire than worship a sadist like that

[IslamAhmadiya]

@AFGknight If there is "evidence" that you resemble with your neighbour, does that necessarily mean that you both share the same mother? If this is how you come to your conclusions, then all the human beings without discrimination should resemble with each other because we all have the same ancestors (i.e. apes according to you). By the way, there is only one God. I call Him Allah, others might call Him with some other beautiful name. All good names are His. Why is Allah unjust, and deceiving?

[AFGknight]

@IslamAhmadiya If the creator made me UNIQUE from my neighbor then I should not resemble my neighbor unless my creator is trying to hide the truth. Why is Allah unjust? “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeedl" (Q.4: 48). Because serial killers and child rapists have a better chance of entering heaven than GANDHI. That is why.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@AFGknight Well, every single individual is unique regardless of our resemblance with any one. The nitrogen base arrangement order of every single person is different from every other individual in the planet. Nobody is trying to trick you, you just need to open your eyes to reality. Well nobody is going to be punished unjustly by God. Those who commit sins in ignorance or of no fault of theirs will not be punished. Those who die rejecting God and associating creations with Him despite...

[IslamAhmadiya]

...receiving the true message will be left to seek "help" from those they themselves preferred over God. Hell is the state in which one is deprived of God. Those who denied themselves from His presence in their hearts in this world will not be able to see Him in the hereafter too. Those who created hell for themselves here in this life will be in the same state in the hereafter too. God alone is the Final Judge of the crimes of individuals. He alone knows the intentions and circumstances of all

[AFGknight]

@IslamAhmadiya Yes and God is a sadistic dictator. I don't want to be in heaven while a man like Gandhi is burning in hell. I rather burn in hell with him. A god who forgives child rapists and murderers but not Gandhi is no God, he is a devil and I dont want to worship the devil. God cannot be unjust for then he is not God. Allah is not god and Islam is not the true message. Open your mind.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@AFGknight As I said earlier, God is the Final Judge of everything. How can I then play God and say that Gandhi is destined for hell forsure? I don't know what was in his heart. What sort of person he truly was. What state he died in. Only God knows. As Quran says: "Allah burdens NOT any soul beyond its capacity. It shall have the reward it earns, and it shall get the punishment it incurs." (Quran 2:286/287). So the soul that willfully denied God for themselves here will get their wish there too

[AFGknight]

@IslamAhmadiya What do you mean is he destined to hell for sure? Are you calling your god a LIAR now??? GOD CLEARLY STATES in 4:48 of the HOLY QURAN that ANYTHING is FORGIVABLE except POLYTHEISM. So are you now putting words in Allahs mouth? Saying that the almighty ALLAH will take back his word? NO, it clearly states, POLYTHEISM will NEVER be FORGIVEN thus GANDHI is destined to burn in hell for eternity.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@AFGknight I think you are not reading my comments properly. You seem to be angry for some reason and hence in a frame of mind where you either don't want to learn or you are not paying much needed attention. Read my previous comments again and see what I am saying. Any sin committed in ignorance will not be punished. Those who die associating partners with Allah or denying Him and don't repent despite knowing the consequences, will be deprived of God's grace in hereafter too. Nothing unjust!

[Jerrez]

islam=low I.Q.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@Jerrez What makes you say that, may I ask?

[Jerrez]

@IslamAhmadiya ignorance is bliss is most commonly explained as retard people that don't know how severe their condition is but to me it means that everywhere you look in every direction there r new discoveries to be made. In that vast universe I feel humble. Religion on the other hand claims to have an answer even if science has disproven these based-on-old-books-visions completely. Yet their are now people that still believe in the irrational. Why? Narcism. Believing that the whole universe

[Jerrez]

@IslamAhmadiya (2) is designed just for us is arogant. There r 400 billion stars in our galaxy,a 100 million earth like planets in our galaxy more than 400 billion galaxies in the observable universe and the observable universe is to the unobservable universe as an atom is to the observable universe. What a waste of space. Every religios society will have some good moral standards, but don't forget that extremism is never good and because of the narcistic character of the relgious structure it

[Jerrez]

@IslamAhmadiya(3) will ultimatly lead to war and genocide. It'sdangerous to die for your principles yoou might be wrong and science is constantly evaluating itself morally and theortically and practicall. But religion on the other hand is flawless because u don't question God. I am baptised but I don't agree with the catholic church's escapades. I believe there are good thing s lifelessons in the bible, like in the Koran, but all the bad stuff needs to be cut out. Science based on a common

[Jerrez]

@IslamAhmadiya () moral standard without the dangour of exterminating other people and plnts and animals over futile believes. The universe is an exating place that isn't less exciting without a god. That's the hardest thing for most people apparently it's harder to admit u don't know something (and far less dangrous) than knowing something that isn't truth. Da vinci said: men r most of all betrayed by their own opinions. I concider that from time to time...I am sorry that I insulted you

[IslamAhmadiya]

@Jerrez Brother, Don't worry you have certainly not insulted me. I can completely understand where you are coming from. I however want to tell you that you have gross misunderstandings about the religion and in particular Islam. As a Muslim I find no contradiction in the word of God (Quran or other revelations) and the work of God (science). If there is a God in existance then it is impossible that His word continues to contradict with His Own work. If there is contradiction between the two...

[IslamAhmadiya]

...then there has to be something really wrong either with our understanding of religion. As you rightly said that Scientific theories continue to be improved, or disproved as the time passes, but there are some proven facts that can't be denied only because it doesn't go by our understanding of religion. Those who do this are stupid. Rationality and religion have to go hand in hand, otherwise you are just living in myths and nothing more. Extremism in any form is dangerous, Islam also says this

[IslamAhmadiya]

...also my religion certainly doesn't encourage me to keep quite and not to question Him. On the contrary God says in Quran: "No incongruity can you see in the creation of the Gracious God. Then look again: Do you see any flaw? Aye, look again, and yet again, your sight will only return to you tired and fatigued" (Quran 67:4–5) Dr. Abdus Salam (Nobel Laureate in Physics 1979) was an Ahmadi Muslim, who always used to say that Quran encouraged and led him to all his scientific success.

[Azadshino]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

It is Bidah (Making an innovation) to believe that Islam accepts that we came from Apes. Allah SWT said specifically that he shaped Adam (As) with his own hands and from his rib came his wife Hawwa, and we are their children.

The statement in the Quran "You will move from stage to stage" is not referring to Evolution, it is referring to when we are in the Womb, when we come out, and when we follow onto the hereafter. And Allah knows best

[IslamAhmadiya]

@Azadshino Who implied that we came from apes? How the Quran deals with Evolution of mankind is quite different.

[jahova10]

@IslamAhmadiya Why do people say that we came from apes??? The theory is that we share a common ancestor...not come from apes

[izkov]

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[786jihadi]

subhanallah