in my own relationship with my wife. And understanding, noticing and observing my OWN behavious and thought patterns has made me even more understanding of my wife and her needs.
Read, listen and think about the subjects with an OPEN mind. Then THINK and analyse how they do or do not relate to you, your partner and your relationship, is my advice.
Much more healthy than just dismissing it entirely or even, I guess, just taking it all as gospel.
Man, some of the comments you guys post really cracks me up... Some are obviously posted without thought, or without thinking about what's actually being said in the video...
YES, John Gray's statements in his books are somewhat sexist. As a man, I agree.
AND, he openly admits in an interview with Tony Robins, these are all GENERALISATIONS. Nothing more.
However, if you read, listen and think about them, a great many truths are there to find.
Men are less stressful than women because they do not pay attention to little things the way women do so they do not let small things bother them. If the issue or situation does not apply to them they do not really care most of the time. A great book that supports this statement and what John Gray was trying to say is "You Just Don't Understand " by Debra Tannen, in this book Tannen talks about how men and women think and approach different situations.
for god sake ,,get off ya ass and cook your own meals then ,,we have been at fking work too ... and woman for god sake f him sit down make him run after you for a while ,,,if he leaves ya better off without him ...
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There are people hopeless enough to listen to this guy? You power through life, and you don't complain. You deal, if you can't then jump out a 5 story window.
You guys! Ya know what it is? Men are taught to suck it up.Thus,you guys you have the no word guy vs the allowed to be emotional gal.Thus you get problems.Most folks don't land in either catagory.
"Neither do I know people who have communication problems with the opposite sex."
If you are really serious about that quote then I think you should be giving a lecture on it. In my limited life experience at 32 years of age I have to say I have come across countless relational problems that find their origin in poor communication.
You will always find exceptions to any trend, that does not mean the trend does not exist, it just means you have found an exception.
If we look in the way males and females are raised in general to oppose one another,This is a breeding ground for poor communication.Little girls are talked to more,little boys are rough housed more.There needs to be more balance in raising children.
@etbella3 My ass? "Little girls are talked to more,little boys are rough housed more." Yeah let's change how children have been raised for thousands of years... "There needs to be more balance in raising children." That liberal ideology is exactly why we have such a rotten society.
This does not, of course,exclude the role of other determinants of human behaviour. eg: Cognitive, social and environmental factors. Individual differences are highly influential.
I also fail to see how bringing to people's attention the fact that the two sexes do use differing communication stratergies causes men and women harm. As with most relational problems, it is usually due communication breakdown.
Neither do I know people who have communication problems with the opposite sex.BTW I played with GI Joe's growing up.You would probably want me to have a sex change.
Therapists have subjective ways of dealing with patients problems.I do know a woman who went to a MarsVenus therapist,she felt boxed in with sterotypes she sensed the therapist wanted her to live instead of being herself.
Sexist because you don't like the patterns of behaviour he has identified.
It would be quite moronic of any research group to make a claim about behavioural patterns and claim them to be universal, there is too much variation within the human gene pool. However it would be equally moronic to claim that there are not overwhelming statistical trends which demonstrate a strong physiological basis for behaviour of different genders.
I agree with Jade.I find what Jade said to be enlightening.If we believe the other sex has a fixed behavioral pattern,how are we to view them as an individual.John Gray has caused harm to both genders!
My position all hinges on what you mean by " fixed".
I am afraid that there is overwhelming neurophysiological evidence to back up the claim that, on a Statistical level ( emphasis mine),for a normal distribution a given human sample that there are significant differences in behavioural responses of the two sexes to a number of different stimuli.
See Work on cortisol release and oxytocin release in the studies on SAM pathway and HPA axis for different genders.
I discount the "evidence" because the powers which controll the world want people to believe they are limited.I think for myself,period.John Gray is a fraud.Read about it online.He's done damage to relationships.
So what do they do when the behavioral response doesn't match their given set of past patterns in their studies? They come upon someone who doesn't fit their narrow catagories of what a male or female is?
The powers that be in the world want people to "think:" they're limited.They spew out their version of "reality" to the masses for blind obedience.They HATE individuality because it has potential and influence.
In my opinion you seem all not to be married. I have experienced almost all these things he talks about in my relationship. My woman wants to be heard and I try to fix everything and want to feel needed by her. Its true for my relationship And please don't think of me as sad case. I am conscious of my deepness within myself as a experiencing being a human and not a victim of life on this planet. John Gray is pretty highly evolved himself. There is more to his deep intelligence than you realize.
Not all women follow the sterotype Gray rants about.I've read his books and don't see myself in any of the discriptions he gives of women's behavior.I think the same of Gurian..both very sexist!
I'm with you, he doesn't actually know what he's talking about. I am male. I am also a clinical psychology PhD student. However as I've said before, we cannot overlook that his counselling tecniques don't work. He is obviously good at what he does even if the things he says are extreme and in many cases not true.
Hi Monkeystu52.. In most of psychology today the individual is being overlooked..Many seem to follow a pattern similar if not the same to John Gray's..I've noticed this where I live..It's a very conservative status quo thinking town..If someone says the same thing
Hi DarkOneLives! :) CPU closed I think but is now under a different name...I'll go look and see about the history of CPU thanks! :) Gray thinks women are weak little needy love junkies.His time should be nearing an end because many are getting wise to him.
jadeorchid2009 "I'll go look and see about the history of CPU thanks! "
From what I've read CPU didn't even rise to the level of the kind of "Mail-Order" school that people joke about. Complete joke that should have never even been allowed to call itself a school.
JG is a clown who came up with a catchy book title and has essentially been eating off that. He holds these outer space "encounter group" seminars and idiots give him money.
@etbella3 lol! I wonder if JG ever met a woman that handles stress by throwing a nerf ball at a wall.JG needs to realize everyone takes on stress in their own way.
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RosalieStreet 5 months ago
Simple. Don`t marry her and you wont hear her nag.
1WhoSeeks 11 months ago
Both Gray and Gurian are smarmy whimps.Go look at Micheal Gurian.haha He's just as whimpy as Gray! lol!
rad7610884 11 months ago
Women are arrogant when under-stress
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etbella3 1 year ago
@etbella3 And no it's not dirty, if you are thinking kama sutra missionary position. There should be all-girls youtube and all-boys youtube.
etbella3 1 year ago
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peyadarsidilki 1 year ago
I live off of stress.Gray has no idea what he's taking about.
rad7610884 1 year ago
he's a retard
CAYLIEN 2 years ago
in my own relationship with my wife. And understanding, noticing and observing my OWN behavious and thought patterns has made me even more understanding of my wife and her needs.
Read, listen and think about the subjects with an OPEN mind. Then THINK and analyse how they do or do not relate to you, your partner and your relationship, is my advice.
Much more healthy than just dismissing it entirely or even, I guess, just taking it all as gospel.
My 2c. Actually, that was about $2. Lol.
thomarsebt 2 years ago 3
@thomarsebt Plus I never told your wife about our affair. Give credit where credit is due.
etbella3 1 year ago
@thomarsebt So that's why NASA goes to Mars? To bring us back better men?
etbella3 1 year ago
Man, some of the comments you guys post really cracks me up... Some are obviously posted without thought, or without thinking about what's actually being said in the video...
YES, John Gray's statements in his books are somewhat sexist. As a man, I agree.
AND, he openly admits in an interview with Tony Robins, these are all GENERALISATIONS. Nothing more.
However, if you read, listen and think about them, a great many truths are there to find.
I have personally seen some of these behaviours
thomarsebt 2 years ago 3
Men are less stressful than women because they do not pay attention to little things the way women do so they do not let small things bother them. If the issue or situation does not apply to them they do not really care most of the time. A great book that supports this statement and what John Gray was trying to say is "You Just Don't Understand " by Debra Tannen, in this book Tannen talks about how men and women think and approach different situations.
Catlin44 2 years ago
for god sake ,,get off ya ass and cook your own meals then ,,we have been at fking work too ... and woman for god sake f him sit down make him run after you for a while ,,,if he leaves ya better off without him ...
oliviamulgrew 2 years ago
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There are people hopeless enough to listen to this guy? You power through life, and you don't complain. You deal, if you can't then jump out a 5 story window.
AfroSchmuck 3 years ago
Most people don't think for themselves.Each relationship is different,therefore,these people are listening to bs.
jlgtuesday 3 years ago
Ahahah I love your comment!
AfroSchmuck 2 years ago
You guys! Ya know what it is? Men are taught to suck it up.Thus,you guys you have the no word guy vs the allowed to be emotional gal.Thus you get problems.Most folks don't land in either catagory.
jlgtuesday 3 years ago
It's true,such as the old men aren't supposed to cry.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
"Neither do I know people who have communication problems with the opposite sex."
If you are really serious about that quote then I think you should be giving a lecture on it. In my limited life experience at 32 years of age I have to say I have come across countless relational problems that find their origin in poor communication.
You will always find exceptions to any trend, that does not mean the trend does not exist, it just means you have found an exception.
mylovelyman2 3 years ago
If we look in the way males and females are raised in general to oppose one another,This is a breeding ground for poor communication.Little girls are talked to more,little boys are rough housed more.There needs to be more balance in raising children.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago 5
Oh boy... I'm guessing you're a girl...
AfroSchmuck 3 years ago
If someone wants to listen to John Gray so be it.But his system doesn't follow the pattern if everyone's life.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
@AfroSchmuck You are a martian asshole.
etbella3 1 year ago
@etbella3 Star Wars. Put your dukes up, Mars. Marmaduke
etbella3 1 year ago
@etbella3 My ass? "Little girls are talked to more,little boys are rough housed more." Yeah let's change how children have been raised for thousands of years... "There needs to be more balance in raising children." That liberal ideology is exactly why we have such a rotten society.
AfroSchmuck 7 months ago
@ilovecountry71 That's why Jay Edgar Hoover spread the rumor, probably false, that he was a cross-dresser.
etbella3 1 year ago
So how does he explain a man who worries and a woman who sits on a couch and watches TV? hmmmmmmm
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
What about women who like to sit on a couch? He's so lame!
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
I thrive on stress.Explain that one Gray!
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
This does not, of course,exclude the role of other determinants of human behaviour. eg: Cognitive, social and environmental factors. Individual differences are highly influential.
I also fail to see how bringing to people's attention the fact that the two sexes do use differing communication stratergies causes men and women harm. As with most relational problems, it is usually due communication breakdown.
mylovelyman2 3 years ago
Neither do I know people who have communication problems with the opposite sex.BTW I played with GI Joe's growing up.You would probably want me to have a sex change.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
:) Well you have not sat with many therapists!
mylovelyman2 3 years ago
Therapists have subjective ways of dealing with patients problems.I do know a woman who went to a MarsVenus therapist,she felt boxed in with sterotypes she sensed the therapist wanted her to live instead of being herself.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
Sexist because you don't like the patterns of behaviour he has identified.
It would be quite moronic of any research group to make a claim about behavioural patterns and claim them to be universal, there is too much variation within the human gene pool. However it would be equally moronic to claim that there are not overwhelming statistical trends which demonstrate a strong physiological basis for behaviour of different genders.
mylovelyman2 3 years ago
I agree with Jade.I find what Jade said to be enlightening.If we believe the other sex has a fixed behavioral pattern,how are we to view them as an individual.John Gray has caused harm to both genders!
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
My position all hinges on what you mean by " fixed".
I am afraid that there is overwhelming neurophysiological evidence to back up the claim that, on a Statistical level ( emphasis mine),for a normal distribution a given human sample that there are significant differences in behavioural responses of the two sexes to a number of different stimuli.
See Work on cortisol release and oxytocin release in the studies on SAM pathway and HPA axis for different genders.
mylovelyman2 3 years ago
I discount the "evidence" because the powers which controll the world want people to believe they are limited.I think for myself,period.John Gray is a fraud.Read about it online.He's done damage to relationships.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
So what do they do when the behavioral response doesn't match their given set of past patterns in their studies? They come upon someone who doesn't fit their narrow catagories of what a male or female is?
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
If I knew a female friend who had the behavioral patterns he described,I'd think she's a gaga baby and needs to have a back bone.
ilovecountry71 3 years ago
Sorry dont' quite follow that one :)
mylovelyman2 3 years ago
The powers that be in the world want people to "think:" they're limited.They spew out their version of "reality" to the masses for blind obedience.They HATE individuality because it has potential and influence.
jadeorchid2009 3 years ago
In my opinion you seem all not to be married. I have experienced almost all these things he talks about in my relationship. My woman wants to be heard and I try to fix everything and want to feel needed by her. Its true for my relationship And please don't think of me as sad case. I am conscious of my deepness within myself as a experiencing being a human and not a victim of life on this planet. John Gray is pretty highly evolved himself. There is more to his deep intelligence than you realize.
slimmyd 3 years ago
Every woman is different plus some people regardless of gender need things fixed for them while others would rather fix it themselves.
jadeorchid2009 3 years ago
Well at least he's not lying about being a doctor anymore. I wonder if he ever got sued for fraud.
Zarbod 3 years ago
so you must be a man! jadeorchid2009
TMO25 3 years ago
Not all women follow the sterotype Gray rants about.I've read his books and don't see myself in any of the discriptions he gives of women's behavior.I think the same of Gurian..both very sexist!
jadeorchid2009 3 years ago
I'm a woman,I come home and watch TV...John Gray is a sexist jerk!
jadeorchid2009 3 years ago
I'm with you, he doesn't actually know what he's talking about. I am male. I am also a clinical psychology PhD student. However as I've said before, we cannot overlook that his counselling tecniques don't work. He is obviously good at what he does even if the things he says are extreme and in many cases not true.
monkeystu52 3 years ago 2
Hi Monkeystu52.. In most of psychology today the individual is being overlooked..Many seem to follow a pattern similar if not the same to John Gray's..I've noticed this where I live..It's a very conservative status quo thinking town..If someone says the same thing
over and over..people start buying into it..
jadeorchid2009 3 years ago
jadeorchid2009 "John Gray is a sexist jerk!"
He's a phony, unqualified, closet queen, sexist jerk.
Do a little research into Columbia Pacific University where "Dr." Gray got his "Doctorate".
DarkOneLives 3 years ago
Hi DarkOneLives! :) CPU closed I think but is now under a different name...I'll go look and see about the history of CPU thanks! :) Gray thinks women are weak little needy love junkies.His time should be nearing an end because many are getting wise to him.
jadeorchid2009 3 years ago
jadeorchid2009 "I'll go look and see about the history of CPU thanks! "
From what I've read CPU didn't even rise to the level of the kind of "Mail-Order" school that people joke about. Complete joke that should have never even been allowed to call itself a school.
JG is a clown who came up with a catchy book title and has essentially been eating off that. He holds these outer space "encounter group" seminars and idiots give him money.
DarkOneLives 3 years ago
@jadeorchid2009 My Favorite Martian is better than this.
etbella3 1 year ago
@etbella3 lol! I wonder if JG ever met a woman that handles stress by throwing a nerf ball at a wall.JG needs to realize everyone takes on stress in their own way.
jadeorchid2009 1 year ago