I am so going to play this... may it be month .... may it be years... but one day I will reward my self with this awesome music coming to life through my very own hands :)
The sound is coarse and loud and boomy possibly because of the microphone placement, lack of absorbing materials and other sound factors. The playing is pretty good and piano functions well although a bit out of tune.
@kuranosuke1968 You are absolutely correct, this interpretation is alien to Rachmaninoff. I think every aspiring pianist should first listen to how Rach interpreted his own pieces, On this prelude, perhaps also listen to Horowitz, Gilels and Moiseiwitsch. This is wanting in too many respects.
IMHO it's up to the pianist how he/she thinks the instrument feels when playing on it.
Apart from the performance, just consider the size and muscles in hands like e.g. Gilels, Richter with almost any lady's hands. So bravo for the lady who's playing pieces like this (almost) flawless.
Most times you don't have to criticize if the piano is yamaha, steinway...it doesn't matter...the most important thing is the maintenance of the piano, the age, the place where it is...even the worst pianos can sound incredible, and the finest steinway can make you feel very uncomfortable in a concert
@Rickyr389 You are wrong. How can you even put Yamaha and Steinway in the same sentence, saying that one doesn't have to criticize such pianos. And NO, even the worst pianos can NOT sound incredible! That's why they're considered bad pianos. What planet are you from?
@organboi I'm pianist, and I have played in very bad Steinway, very bad Bechstein...and they're suposed to be some of the best piano in the world...one kawai, or yamaha, petrov in good conditions could be a perfect piano...I'm from the same planet than you, and this is my opinion.
im no professional but the sound coming from a micro of a amateur camera doesnt help either.. yet i do believe that this piano is not the best (or the worst) but this kind of micro is unable to pick up all the immense frequencies that a piano is capable of..
but im here to learn, and Valentina is still the best for me so far. not taking credit of Yulianna though...
Really? Steinway? In Warsaw she played the CFX Yamaha (as did others) to great success. Fazioli is much better than Steinway, and don't forget the Shigeru Kawai. The idea that only Steinway makes a good piano and very wrong. Again, in Warsaw the Fazioli placed 3rd, Steinway 2nd, and Yamaha CFX 1st. Kawai didn't "advance" but was a lovely piano.
@andretchaikowskycom I have heard all the pianos you mention, and the Fazioli might live up to the Steinway, but in NO WAY do the others. And I don't care about pianos winning competitions. Who cares about that? Who was judging? People like you who think Kawai and Yamaha are great pianos?
The opening section is extremely dry, but I guess it is deliberate as if Rachmininoff would have played like this. Middle section beautifully played with the second theme coming out very clearly. Something wrong with the sound of that piano ?
listening again after comment response: i hear even more what was disappointing in Warsaw 2010: lack of lyricism, lack of élan, technical clumsiness, mechanical...but mostly: a thin,clangy,ugly sound, no body,texture or possibility to "sing"...Nobody, knowing the great interpretations of this piece, would ever listen to this again, it's horrible.
@Greenpeacejohnny You've made me laugh when I spotted you exploited an automated translator from ??? language into Polish. I am of Polish origin and I must say this Polish version is hardly readable, but always funny and unreasonably mind-numbingly breath-taking. Have a good day my friend ! And thanks for posting the masterpiece of Chopin (Polonaise Fantasia op.61) on YT.
Ой-ой-ой. А победителю одного из самых престижных конкурсов вообще-то не мешало бы почище педализировать, да и мазни можно поубавить. Про отвратительно прямолинейное forte и надоедливую агогику на грани хорошего вкуса я уж и не говорю... Зайдите на прослушивание кафедры в Гнесинке - там так играют из десяти одиннадцать. Девочка, безусловно, музыкальная и способная. Но неумеренные восторги и дифирамбы сослужат ей плохую службу, увы.
Ой-ой-ой. А победителю одного из самых престижных конкурсов вообще-то не мешало бы почище педализировать, да и мазни можно поубавить. Про отвратительно прямолинейное forte и надоедливую агогику на грани хорошего вкуса я уж и не говорю... Зайдите на прослушивание кафедры в Гнесинке - там так играют из десяти одиннадцать. Девочка, безусловно, музыкальная и способная. Но неумеренные восторги и дифирамбы сослужат ей плохую службу, увы.
Bella Davidovich, Adam Harasiewicz, Dan Thai Son, Martha Archerich, Kevin Kenner- all of these great pianists won Frederic Chopin Piano Competition previously, so some comments are not based on facts but on once particular opinions, sometimes biases. Well, Beauty lies in the eye of beholder. Wunder or Bozhanov could have also won. That was somehow a matter of all the members of the jury taste.
A very dramatic and different interpretation. The rhythm and emphasis I find appealing although others may not like it at all, since her playing of this work breaks from what others have done. A good pianist should be willing to put their own take on a familiar work and make it their own, as Ms. Avdeeva has done here. Bravo!
@1hakon You have got to be kidding - this performance is an embarassment to the Russian tradition since it hardly compares to the truly great Russian pianists.
I thought she would be great playing Rachmaninoff. But hmmm.... not really, the sound and passion is not even there. How can that kind of playing win a CHopin competition. I can only say good luck to her future. NIFC cannot force to create an artist when one is not. There are many listeners who know how to discriminate good music from bad, true artists or genius from good pianists. Wunder, Geniusas, trifonov and Bozhanov are true artists, but Khozyainov is real genius.
@fychang0819 Maybe you don't. If you don't find this recording bad, you seriously do not know. hmmm, just follow some kind of authority.. "yeah, Martha, Thai Sun and blah blah were in the jury, she must be good'
@fychang0819 The majority of pianists on the jury (with the exception of Argerich and Freire) were not elite pianists. Even Argerich, just look at her festival to see if she has such good taste with pianists such as Zilberstein or look at her huge statement regarding Pogorelic - who turned out to be just as crazy if not more so than what everyone thought.
@KantutJuice Huh, you haven't understood me. I meant that she plays Rachmaninoff well, but not Chopin, and she's won Chopin competition. You thought that I had thought it is recording from this year competition and she had made a mistake and played Rachmaninoff on Chopin monographic concert :)?
@chepurociel620 Ah. sorry. Yeah. Russian pianist always play Rachmaninov well. :D, No matter what you can say about their performances it's never a disaster.
Would be much better if ther'd been a real piano there instead of this clangy plastic box. That might explain the hasty snatching and minor slips even in the central melody. No wonder she sounds impatient to get it over and done with.
@NOSEhow2LIV Haha...No comment about the piano people have different opinions, just only that she doesn't dislike the piano. She chose to play on a Yamaha in the competition too.
Perfection Ms Yulianna. You've got a mind numbing personality, great deep and breathtaking sound, subtliness laced with romantic mood and fantastic virtuosity. You well deserved winning the XVI Chopin Piano Competition in Warsaw, 2010. And what a beautiful woman performing a divine ART you are ! Bravo !
EXCELLENT! You play this absolutely PERFECT! Your dynamics, staccatos rhythm, and everything is absolutely OUTSTANDING! This piece is so DIFFICULT, and you play it PHENOMENALLY! This is one of the best I've heard on YouTube and the absolute best from all female players. My hands wouldn't hold up. lol I am playing with this piece, but don't plan to finish it. Just for fun.
You deserve 1,000 stars for this superb rendition. BRAVA!
Wow. This is a nuanced interpretation. I really like the hard staccatos at the beginning. I also appreciate how she takes her time in order to maintain clarity.
Very good performance
7pianoforte 5 days ago
I don't think the problem is the piano, but the miking.
bostonseeker 1 week ago
плохие пианисты всегда ругают инструменты, хорошие - играют на них блистательно)))
sandraXXX22 1 month ago
I am so going to play this... may it be month .... may it be years... but one day I will reward my self with this awesome music coming to life through my very own hands :)
JollyRoger183 2 months ago
@JollyRoger183 i said that to myself on my birthday last year, the 11/1.. a year later and im still nowhere near finished, good luck!
SuperSeabass11 1 month ago
probably nothing wrong with the piano - why would there be?
But a very poor recording - mike(s) in wong place?
lsbrother 2 months ago
Молодчинка!
elena42415 4 months ago
sounds a bit off... than again I'm not pro...
S.R. is not for anyone and especially not for crappy pianos
mrhemuli91 4 months ago
she has fake emotions... and pinao are so bad that its criminal what they doing to pianists...
predoje 5 months ago
A soulful instrument is like a fantastic lover, but a harsh one is your killer, for sure.
VeraNova4545 5 months ago
Thank you!
Adorado31 5 months ago
The sound is coarse and loud and boomy possibly because of the microphone placement, lack of absorbing materials and other sound factors. The playing is pretty good and piano functions well although a bit out of tune.
nearenough3 6 months ago
@kuranosuke1968 You are absolutely correct, this interpretation is alien to Rachmaninoff. I think every aspiring pianist should first listen to how Rach interpreted his own pieces, On this prelude, perhaps also listen to Horowitz, Gilels and Moiseiwitsch. This is wanting in too many respects.
Bret6464 6 months ago
IMHO it's up to the pianist how he/she thinks the instrument feels when playing on it.
Apart from the performance, just consider the size and muscles in hands like e.g. Gilels, Richter with almost any lady's hands. So bravo for the lady who's playing pieces like this (almost) flawless.
crm4F240 6 months ago
@organboi agree
Distefanix 6 months ago
Most times you don't have to criticize if the piano is yamaha, steinway...it doesn't matter...the most important thing is the maintenance of the piano, the age, the place where it is...even the worst pianos can sound incredible, and the finest steinway can make you feel very uncomfortable in a concert
Rickyr389 7 months ago
@Rickyr389 You are wrong. How can you even put Yamaha and Steinway in the same sentence, saying that one doesn't have to criticize such pianos. And NO, even the worst pianos can NOT sound incredible! That's why they're considered bad pianos. What planet are you from?
organboi 7 months ago
@organboi I'm pianist, and I have played in very bad Steinway, very bad Bechstein...and they're suposed to be some of the best piano in the world...one kawai, or yamaha, petrov in good conditions could be a perfect piano...I'm from the same planet than you, and this is my opinion.
Rickyr389 7 months ago 15
im no professional but the sound coming from a micro of a amateur camera doesnt help either.. yet i do believe that this piano is not the best (or the worst) but this kind of micro is unable to pick up all the immense frequencies that a piano is capable of..
but im here to learn, and Valentina is still the best for me so far. not taking credit of Yulianna though...
ensaiodeporrada 2 months ago
European pianos are indeed better than Asian pianos. I prefer Steinway and Bosendorfer, and perhaps even Pleyel. Asian pianos sound like tin cans.
MadamePukengkay 7 months ago
Really? Steinway? In Warsaw she played the CFX Yamaha (as did others) to great success. Fazioli is much better than Steinway, and don't forget the Shigeru Kawai. The idea that only Steinway makes a good piano and very wrong. Again, in Warsaw the Fazioli placed 3rd, Steinway 2nd, and Yamaha CFX 1st. Kawai didn't "advance" but was a lovely piano.
andretchaikowskycom 9 months ago
@andretchaikowskycom I have heard all the pianos you mention, and the Fazioli might live up to the Steinway, but in NO WAY do the others. And I don't care about pianos winning competitions. Who cares about that? Who was judging? People like you who think Kawai and Yamaha are great pianos?
organboi 7 months ago
yamaha??? she should use steinway and sons
yewxin22 10 months ago
The opening section is extremely dry, but I guess it is deliberate as if Rachmininoff would have played like this. Middle section beautifully played with the second theme coming out very clearly. Something wrong with the sound of that piano ?
eyh8erc 11 months ago
@eyh8erc 'something wrong with the sound of that piano?' -> it's a yamaha. i just don't get why she prefers that brand...
scarro 11 months ago
Well, any way is 2008...
Paulland30 1 year ago
speaking of mediocrity, does the world need another one?
genniegennie87 1 year ago
horrible piano. damn those yamahas!
organboi 1 year ago 18
@organboi
Le pire, c'est que même pour le prestigieux Concours Chopin, la salle de Varsovie est équipé d'un Yamaha...
Pas fous les Japonais: ils exportent leurs pianos et achètent des Steinway ou Bösendorfer pour leurs propres salles, comme au Budokan :)
daikke2000 1 year ago
@organboi i played on a baby grand yamaha... the base is horrible... unnatural ....
develish16 7 months ago
@organboi Oh yeah? I think it's a horrible pianist too))))
rva25 5 months ago
@organboi Why? The audio is bad, but there's nothing unpleasant about the piano tone.
xiangyik 5 months ago
@organboi Damn the audio of the camera, not the piano ._.
GiangioBangio 2 months ago
Yamaha...Yuck, Yulianna...YUM!!
mcbainst 1 year ago
listening again after comment response: i hear even more what was disappointing in Warsaw 2010: lack of lyricism, lack of élan, technical clumsiness, mechanical...but mostly: a thin,clangy,ugly sound, no body,texture or possibility to "sing"...Nobody, knowing the great interpretations of this piece, would ever listen to this again, it's horrible.
NOSEhow2LIV 1 year ago
the plying is better than the piano itself..
12345qazx1 1 year ago
amalthea1000 Полностью с Вами согласен! Играет отвратно... Как школьник.
adadna 1 year ago
@Greenpeacejohnny You've made me laugh when I spotted you exploited an automated translator from ??? language into Polish. I am of Polish origin and I must say this Polish version is hardly readable, but always funny and unreasonably mind-numbingly breath-taking. Have a good day my friend ! And thanks for posting the masterpiece of Chopin (Polonaise Fantasia op.61) on YT.
WitoldBanasik 1 year ago
Ой-ой-ой. А победителю одного из самых престижных конкурсов вообще-то не мешало бы почище педализировать, да и мазни можно поубавить. Про отвратительно прямолинейное forte и надоедливую агогику на грани хорошего вкуса я уж и не говорю... Зайдите на прослушивание кафедры в Гнесинке - там так играют из десяти одиннадцать. Девочка, безусловно, музыкальная и способная. Но неумеренные восторги и дифирамбы сослужат ей плохую службу, увы.
amalthea1000 1 year ago 2
Ой-ой-ой. А победителю одного из самых престижных конкурсов вообще-то не мешало бы почище педализировать, да и мазни можно поубавить. Про отвратительно прямолинейное forte и надоедливую агогику на грани хорошего вкуса я уж и не говорю... Зайдите на прослушивание кафедры в Гнесинке - там так играют из десяти одиннадцать. Девочка, безусловно, музыкальная и способная. Но неумеренные восторги и дифирамбы сослужат ей плохую службу, увы.
amalthea1000 1 year ago
Bella Davidovich, Adam Harasiewicz, Dan Thai Son, Martha Archerich, Kevin Kenner- all of these great pianists won Frederic Chopin Piano Competition previously, so some comments are not based on facts but on once particular opinions, sometimes biases. Well, Beauty lies in the eye of beholder. Wunder or Bozhanov could have also won. That was somehow a matter of all the members of the jury taste.
WitoldBanasik 1 year ago
Simply wonderful . Bravissima !!!
Lorys0107 1 year ago
A very dramatic and different interpretation. The rhythm and emphasis I find appealing although others may not like it at all, since her playing of this work breaks from what others have done. A good pianist should be willing to put their own take on a familiar work and make it their own, as Ms. Avdeeva has done here. Bravo!
MrJojowasaman 1 year ago 2
Very measured and lacking the momentum that great performances of this work all have.
classicalalways 1 year ago
Lento, sporco e noioso..,... e questa ha vinto lo Chopin???
SergejOR82 1 year ago
Genius Beautifully
Yulianna Avdeeva
TheFryderyk1 1 year ago
А Я БЫ СКАЗАЛ - КАК-ТО НЕУКЛЮЖЕ....
adadna 1 year ago
What a great performance. She continues the great russian tradition. Hopefully we will here more concerts in the next 50 years. Bravo!
1hakon 1 year ago
@1hakon You have got to be kidding - this performance is an embarassment to the Russian tradition since it hardly compares to the truly great Russian pianists.
classicalalways 1 year ago
I thought she would be great playing Rachmaninoff. But hmmm.... not really, the sound and passion is not even there. How can that kind of playing win a CHopin competition. I can only say good luck to her future. NIFC cannot force to create an artist when one is not. There are many listeners who know how to discriminate good music from bad, true artists or genius from good pianists. Wunder, Geniusas, trifonov and Bozhanov are true artists, but Khozyainov is real genius.
terrygowork 1 year ago
@terrygowork So the jurors including Argerich, Dong...et al don't know which music is good or bad?
fychang0819 1 year ago
@fychang0819 Maybe you don't
terrygowork 1 year ago
@fychang0819 Maybe you don't. If you don't find this recording bad, you seriously do not know. hmmm, just follow some kind of authority.. "yeah, Martha, Thai Sun and blah blah were in the jury, she must be good'
terrygowork 1 year ago
@fychang0819 The majority of pianists on the jury (with the exception of Argerich and Freire) were not elite pianists. Even Argerich, just look at her festival to see if she has such good taste with pianists such as Zilberstein or look at her huge statement regarding Pogorelic - who turned out to be just as crazy if not more so than what everyone thought.
classicalalways 1 year ago
Brava! She's wonderful performer of Rachmaninoff, really. Unfortunately, it was CHOPIN competition.
chepurociel620 1 year ago
@chepurociel620 'Playing rachmaninoff prelude op23 no.5, at Paris's Salle Cortot on April 15, 2008.' You make me laugh.
KantutJuice 1 year ago
@KantutJuice Huh, you haven't understood me. I meant that she plays Rachmaninoff well, but not Chopin, and she's won Chopin competition. You thought that I had thought it is recording from this year competition and she had made a mistake and played Rachmaninoff on Chopin monographic concert :)?
chepurociel620 1 year ago
@chepurociel620 Ah. sorry. Yeah. Russian pianist always play Rachmaninov well. :D, No matter what you can say about their performances it's never a disaster.
KantutJuice 1 year ago
Would be much better if ther'd been a real piano there instead of this clangy plastic box. That might explain the hasty snatching and minor slips even in the central melody. No wonder she sounds impatient to get it over and done with.
NOSEhow2LIV 1 year ago
@NOSEhow2LIV Haha...No comment about the piano people have different opinions, just only that she doesn't dislike the piano. She chose to play on a Yamaha in the competition too.
KantutJuice 1 year ago
Prekrasno!
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Sorprendente :)
SymphonicForce 1 year ago
Perfection Ms Yulianna. You've got a mind numbing personality, great deep and breathtaking sound, subtliness laced with romantic mood and fantastic virtuosity. You well deserved winning the XVI Chopin Piano Competition in Warsaw, 2010. And what a beautiful woman performing a divine ART you are ! Bravo !
WitoldBanasik 1 year ago 2
EXCELLENT! You play this absolutely PERFECT! Your dynamics, staccatos rhythm, and everything is absolutely OUTSTANDING! This piece is so DIFFICULT, and you play it PHENOMENALLY! This is one of the best I've heard on YouTube and the absolute best from all female players. My hands wouldn't hold up. lol I am playing with this piece, but don't plan to finish it. Just for fun.
You deserve 1,000 stars for this superb rendition. BRAVA!
lllllllllllllll88 1 year ago
@lllllllllllllll88 haha. I dono. I love lisitsa. :D
KantutJuice 1 year ago
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lllllllllllllll88 1 year ago
so clean
Thunderflower367 2 years ago
That's a performance...great crescendo....
Hiroshima49 2 years ago
Wow. This is a nuanced interpretation. I really like the hard staccatos at the beginning. I also appreciate how she takes her time in order to maintain clarity.
chomskyFTW 2 years ago
Good job. In the middle part, the right hand seems too bright.
xujia1001 3 years ago
just great!! top world class interpretation
robertcoray 3 years ago
that was awesome!!! you play like a man! please take that as a compliment.... it was powerful and agressive... the way i like it
wilmerguido 3 years ago
you're good i prefer it played a little different but great job
YazDawg 3 years ago