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  • Abortions stops a beating heart...then the baby grows up to be anything but a Christian, then god not only stops a beating heart he goes further by torturing that grown baby for eternity!

    I bet a million dollars these "crisis pregnancy centers" don't give out that information.

    That's pure evil.

  • @flatpat By your reasoning, then, it would be a) merciful and kind to kill ALL babies before they are born to prevent them going to hell, and b) merciful and kind to kill babies who have already been born, before they have a chance to sin and incur God's wrath.

  • Abortion is awesome!

  • @LycaonsBane

    You wrote, "Pro-choice simply means respecting the other person's right to choose."

    WHICH person?

    The father of the pre-born baby, who wants his child to live? You disrespect his choice.

    The pre-born baby themselves, who wants to live? You disrespect their choice.

  • @LycaonsBane I understood your comment. We are just coming from two completely different starting points. I believe we both desire the same end result as far as abortion goes, but I can't leave the spiritual aspect out of it whereas, you can. Thanks for the discussion.

  • @LycaonsBane Sure it can come across as mindless insults and screaming, but I wouldn't paint everyone with such a wide brush. Things get heated on youtube comments (lol?), but I bet many are preaching out of love and sincerity to educate the mothers as well as for the dying children. It shouldn't be a message of condemnation, but a message of truth and an offer of forgiveness. That no matter what u went through, Jesus is there waiting for u to come to Him. He loves u and wants to forgive u.

  • @LycaonsBane I believe radical change come from conviction, and not the tickling of the ears. You're probably right in that Christian's need to act in love and with love, but I wouldn't change the message one bit. People's heart can either be hardened or it can be broken. All we could do is tell the truth in love, and pray that God will help in changing their hearts.

  • @LycaonsBane Please tell me then a better way to show people that abortion is murder and to turn them to Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sin. I'm definitely hoping people are open-minded and willing to think this issue through instead of hardening their hearts.

  • @LycaonsBane Individually, letting people know it is wrong and spreading the message of forgiveness of sin. In a larger sense, supporting the cause of the pro-life movements. Don't ignore your conscience about this. God had a plan for all these individual souls, and we are snuffing them out without even a care in the world.

  • @LycaonsBane The bottom line is this. Even people who performed abortions can be forgiven, but first, they have to realize that what they did was wrong and is sin instead of trying to justify murder or even support those who perform it. Without the knowledge of sin, there is no conviction of sin. There is hope and forgiveness for everyone. Jesus Christ died on the cross for ur sins and everyone else's sin. He died in ur place so u can be reconciled to God and have eternal life. Seek Jesus.

  • @LycaonsBane I don't see how it is flawed at all. You even gave an example of how if i am okay with torture and murder of baby animals, I would be sick, and I agreed that if I was okay with even the choice for other people to torture and murder baby animals, I would be sick. Isn't this just a logical progression if you actually think about it? I'm sure there are more people you and I know who have been affected by these arguments and come to a realization that abortion is murder.

  • @LycaonsBane I don't think I have to explain to you, but hopefully you understood that my obvious implication of being pro-choice is in relation to having depraved indifference to murder.

  • @LycaonsBane It can only happen if people are educated and even openly rebuked. People are not going to quit simply because it is not agreed upon by everyone. How does the argument of life in the womb come across as ignorant, sexist, childish, religiously driven?? If anything, THAT is an emotional argument. We are just pointing out the obvious that the unborn is a human being. People are ignoring and denying the obvious and they need to understand what they are doing is wrong.

  • @LycaonsBane Honestly, what you said wouldn't sound so foolish and emotionally driven if I actually said I was ok with torture and murder of baby animals. If I said I was okay with the choice for other people to torture and murder baby animals, what you said would stand. Those who are pro choice however, are saying exactly this very thing. You can deny your stance all you want, but this is the obvious implication of being pro-choice.

  • @LycaonsBane The solution is people understanding that what they are aborting are human beings. Maybe we come across as harsh, but it is a harsh reality. We call it murder because we believe and see it as murder. You're sooo right it's emotionally driven. And it better be if you actually believe murder is occurring. And there is such a huge difference between an unborn human being and an animal. I value human life and I can't stand people who don't.

  • I'm willing to bet that you pro-choicers out there weren't pro-choice until after you were born.

  • @LycaonsBane I would call it depraved indifference. If I know in my heart and mind that an innocent baby is being murdered, or about to, what kind of person would I be to sit back and say, "oh well, I respect their choice. I know I won't murder and I oppose it, but it's not my business if someone else murders." Really? You wouldn't act like that towards someone who is walking around you in life would you? Think further back and apply that same stance on the unborn humans. Babies no less...

  • Wow some of the comments here are very disturbing! The only difference between a 2yr old and 2 week old is development. The only difference between a 2 week old and baby not yet out of the womb is development. No matter what you call it, it is the killing of a human being. To make it more disgusting it is the killing of an innocent helpless human being.

  • Hey guys, great show as always. You need to check out Personhood USA. They have a petition to sign. They are trying to establish the personhood of the unborn, therefore solidifying their rights in the law. This includes the right to life.

  • why do people hate God? They should hate Adam instead if you ask me. God laid down the rules and choices. gave Adam free will to choose, and he messed it up badly. Luckly for us, He has laid down same rules and choices and free will, and we keep messing it up. Why hate God?

    Because God didnt force us to choose the right option?

  • @LycaonsBane "Grow up man"? Something that aborted babies are not given the chance to do . . .

  • @LycaonsBane nobody has the right to choose to murder a baby...period. go set down kid

  • @tattoomike1968 but you can bomb ppl all day and knight right?

  • The tragedy at the Indiana State Fair was truly horrific. There have been several of us soldiers that have been witnessing there throughout August. Please pray for our outreach and that this will make people think more about eternity! God bless.

  • well after watching 3 minutes of cackaling from two middle aged knuckle draggers, i just turned it off and continue asking myself why i continue to watch anything from WayOfTheMaster. But Maybe its some sick demonic masocistic Hells angel inside of me saying "Watch it, And become more depressed than you already are" pushing me ever more closer to blowing my brains out all over the computer in a rage of spite and disgust at which i shall meet the blonde hair blue eyed jesus and than go to hell.

  • where was God...In your MIND,,,,,,where it ONLY exists........such sad humans you are - you need to live your lives threw a 2000 yr old book written by Primitives....who thought the earth was flat, and had no hygiene.

  • @LycaonsBane There was no sarcasm in my comment. Name calling? If you steal you are a thief. If you lie you are a liar. If you cheat on your spouse you are an adulterer. If you take God's name in vain you are a blasphemer. And if you are in favor of the murder of other human beings, including the unborn, then you are a murderer-at heart. You speak of "solution" like another figure in history.

  • PRAISE THE LORD, HOLY JESUS, THE KING OF KINGS, I LOVE YOU MORE THAN MY OWN LIFE! PRAISE YOUR HOLY PRECIOUS NAME, SEND REVIVAL TO AMERICA! WE NEED IT! THERE'S NO ONE LIKE YOU LORD, YOU ARE THE MOST HIGH, OUR HEALER, COUNSELOR, JOY, PEACE, FRIEND, COMPANION, I WILL SING YOUR PRAISES ALL OF MY DAYS IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH! HALLELUJAH TO THE LAMB OF GOD!!!!!!!!!

  • @LycaonsBane To respect a person's right to murder a baby is to support the murder of the unborn. You are putting a person's right to kill over a person's right to live.

  • If the unborn is not a human being, no justification for abortion is necessary. However, if the unborn is a human being, no justification for elective abortion is adequate, because we do not take the lives of valuable human beings for the reasons people give to justify their abortions.

  • @LycaonsBane No one has an open-ended right to choose. Whether anyone has a right to choose depends entirely on what choice they have in mind. Abortion stops a beating heart. It's the slaughter of the unborn and those on the pro-life side cannot sit back and simply say it's OK for someone to choose to kill that baby. You said, "I don't have the right to force my personal belief's on others." Then why are you even posting on this Channel?

  • @thewayofthemaster Do you believe that a destroyed embryo will have a place in heaven?

    If not, then you don't consider it as a human being with a soul, so its abortion can't be murder.

    If so, then what sort of soul do you think exists in heaven for it when the experiences needed to form its mind and personality don't exist?.

    This argument can be made for anything without a mental ability, making the idea of a soul more than a little flawed.

  • God bless you all!

  • Atheist Experience 2 point O

  • It never ceases to amaze me how much time an atheist will waste trolling around Christian websites arguing against something they do not believe exists. Does anyone else see a major fallacy in this? Honestly. Just think about that for a moment and how transparent it makes them look. That would be like me telling anyone who loves unicorns or fairies how stupid they are for loving them. Since they don't exist, so why waste time debating against those who insist they do? Makes no sense.

  • @TheLawman104 The reason you do not consider that as murder is because you give human rights at conception and not at the sperm. Eventually through time that sperm will become a human life, so please explain why you do not consider someone killing a sperm cell as killing a human life.

  • @Relaxingintelligence

    "Eventually through time that sperm will become a human life..."

    The requirements for a sperm to become a human life:

    1. A human egg. Alone, the sperm is NOT complete to form human life.

    2. Time

    3. Luck or lack of it, depending on your point of view

  • Furthermore, with each successful, Godly conception comes the death of thousands of sperms which did not fertilize an egg.

    Anybody developed from only a sperm will be missing a few chromosomes.

  • @PrinceWalter So you are saying it can not become a human on it's own and that is why it is not considered a human life? How is when the sperm hits the egg any different than when the sperm is just outside the egg. The sperm + egg also have requirements.

    1. A woman's body. Without one, the sperm +egg is NOT complete to form human life

    2. Time

    3. Luck from not becoming a miscarriage

  • @Relaxingintelligence

    A developing embryo can't develop "on its own" for some of the reasons you listed.

    But my reference to "alone" or "on its own" was to the necessity of the human egg to compliment the chromosomes that the sperm has.

    If humans were capable of producing other humans with only one cell, such as a sperm, they would be asexual creatures.

    A sperm comes from one parent.

    Asexual reproduction is a mode of reproduction by which offspring arise from a single parent.

  • @PrinceWalter Okay so for clarification, you say a human sperm is not considered human life because of your statements 1 2 and 3. My claim is that the reasons you presented for why a sperm is not considered to have human rights, are the same reasons why liberals give human rights around the trimester period. Is there anything I didn't represent on your opinion, and what specific reason do you have against my claim. Not the claim about how a sperm is not a human life.

  • @Relaxingintelligence

    "around the trimester period"

    I can't speak for the liberals you mentioned, but when the egg has been fertilized by the sperm, I believe that that is when human life begins.

  • Catholics say it is given to the sperm, consevatives say it begins when the sperm touches the egg, and liberals say around a month before either the brain, personality, or feelings start to develop. Calling abortion as murder to a liberal, would be like catholics calling wearing condoms to conservatives as murder. The debate is not whether murder is right or wrong, but when do we give out human rights, and that is why this is a complex issue.

  • Also, "pro murder" is a propaganda statement. No one who is pro choice believes that it is murder. I believe most of society consider murder to a human being with human rights is wrong. But most of us don't think that killing an animal is murder, or that wearing condoms is murder. I believe the reason is because we, as society, don't give human rights to animals, sperm, and the egg. The reason there is a debate about abortion is not about murder, but when do we give out human rights.

  • @Relaxingintelligence It doesn't matter what you believe. What matters is whether or not what you believe is true. And it is true that a human life is taken every time a baby is aborted. The propagandists are those who continue to ignore both science, reason, and conscience by insisting what grows in a mother's womb, from the point of conception, is a human being--created in the image of God.

  • @TheLawman104 The first two sentences, I agree with you. The third sentence though is only true if human rights are given at conception. If that statement is true then, we could say that every time a man ejaculates that is not in a woman is a mass murderer, because he in fact is forcing sperm cells into an environment that it can not survive, thereby killing "human" lives.

  • Saying that atheists "don't want God" or are "upset with God", I believe have a misconception about atheists. It would be like saying that christians don't want or are upset with Allah. I don't think people are truly upset with something that they believe does not exist. Now there are exceptions to every statement but I believe it is true for most. The reason the lady probably asked the man to leave would be the same reason a christian would ask a man preaching Allah in an outdoor cafe to leave

  • tony miano did not accept the 20 because he only accepts 100 dollar bills lol

  • @RayWilliamJohansen Cricket...Cricket....

  • They talk about not sinning and then joke about having a lead foot...breaking speed limits is breaking the law of the land...

  • I like John Pipers answer to why God allows "bad things" to happen. Luke 13:1-5 points out that we are not better or worse sinners than them but it shows us that God is in control and that we can be taken at any point in time.

    /watch?v=6jSEmXKgMcQ

  • It's funny hoiw many atheists are upset with a God that they say doesn't exists, this actually shows their belief in God.

  • @Bigjon145 Atheists are upset because many Christians fail to see the flaws within the moral structure of their faith, yet claim to have a divine sense of right and wrong.

  • @daftpunkrulerfan1 Now there's irony for you. Atheists who cannot account for a moral structure in their worldview have to steal from the biblical worldview to criticize the moral structure of those who maintain a biblical worldview.

  • @Bigjon145 A atheist by definition does not believe in a Deity, which makes it impossible to hate or be upset with God. Just clarifying... I am not a Atheist.

  • @treasuredroperX sure, atheists say that all the time, but that's not how they act. Just read any of atheist comments on youtube for 5 minutes and you can clearly see anger and bitterness towards God

  • @Siscast With all the religions in the world ALL claming to be correct showcases your just a piece in the puzzle of oneness

  • @MrTasfoolia That's the conclusion you came up with? Since there are so many truth claims, they are all actually one? How in the world did you come up with that? When many religions make contradictory truth claims, either they are all wrong or one of them is right. It is irrational and illogical to say they are all correct, or part of a "puzzle of oneness"

  • @Siscast of course they have anger and bitterness toward god, when someone dies in an accident he was at the wrong place whereas if someone survives a catastrophe, god comes up and takes the credit....

  • @DZeRTEAGLE Atheists probably wouldn't be so angry and bitter if they actually read the Bible and wasn't ignorant about who God is. Usually, atheists are just angry at their own false understanding of God and so called religious hypocrites. God is holy, righteousness, just, merciful, and loving. The Bible show's God's justice towards a fallen and sinful world, as well as God's humbleness and mercy and love towards us sinners. Btw, you realize Satan is the prince of this world.

  • @Siscast the bible says that god is the king of the universe, how satan managed to take his place?

  • @DZeRTEAGLE U should read the Bible or if that's too much, get an understanding of the Christian belief from an actual Christian and not an atheist. God is ultimately sovereign over what will happen and He knows all possibilities of his free agents. Nonetheless, we all have a free will. And just like Satan, we can use our free will to do bad and rebel against God. The devil has a short time before he is in the lake of fire. he is trying to deceive as many people as possible until that time.

  • @Siscast i was christian reading bible so many time that i can preach it. you did said that satan is the master of the universe, how a satanist can advise me to read the bible?

  • @DZeRTEAGLE Just because you read the bible doesn't make you a christian, and obviously, you never understood the bible when you read it because you are asking ridiculous questions.

  • @Siscast so we both are not christian since satan is the prince of our earth. what do you think about the emergence of the illumnatis in a world where islam is becoming the number one religion, is christianity about to disappear?

  • @DZeRTEAGLE I'm a Christian because I repented and put my faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. You are only saved and born again when the blood of Christ covers you. Otherwise, you are still lost, the son of the devil and headed to eternal hell. I believe Christians will be horribly persecuted and go through a time of tribulation. But God will take care of us and ultimately, Jesus will come back in glory and power.

  • i respect your philosophy, it seems so respectfull and harmless for other but jugding people as lost ruins it all cause the bible says to not juge others cause human being don't have the sense of justice. religion has to be private and beleviers tend to forget that on the jugememnt day god will juge you for your deeds, good or bad but won't compare to others cause the safety is personal

  • @DZeRTEAGLE It's not my philosophy. It's what the Bible, the word of God says. Telling people their stance before God and asking them to get right with God is not being judgmental. It is telling them the truth. I thank God for evangelists and ministries like wayofthemaster because they actually care and love lost people enough to deny themselves and preach the truth to people.

  • Yes it is your philosophy. think about the kukluxkklan, most of them a good christians like you, but they do hate and kill black people, think about priests who molest children, think about us presidents who swear on the bible whereas they lie and murder people for money....you are christian just like them but i'm sure you don't act like all of them.

  • @DZeRTEAGLE Wow. Just because someone says they are Christian does not make them a Christian. Do you understand? If you are not born again, you are not a Christian. If Christ did not change you and make you a new creature, if you are not bearing the fruits of the spirit, then you are not a Christian. They are what you would call, hypocrites.

  • that's why i'm calling that a philosophy. christian don't think the same way, don't act the same. evangelist are different from protestants, different from orthodox etc...i'm talking about act not words.

  • @DZeRTEAGLE Forget religion, just look at Christ and read what He said.

  • christs word can"t match my culture. those who follow him think they are superior to non believer but according to them its normal because god/christ is the master. that what separate people and the origin of war and destruction. the intolerance.

  • @DZeRTEAGLE I agree people can be hypocrites and prideful and selfish etc. That is why I told you to look at Christ. Forget religion, forget the hypocrites. Look at the love of Christ, His death and resurrection, and what He is offering to you at this moment. Forgiveness of all sins, reconciliation with God, and a new heart, and eternal life.

  • @Siscast i understand that but i don't need him to guide me, he is better for people who consider themselves as lost sheeps or blind. i'm good to other people and i enjoy life, that is what is most important to me cause we only live once. life is a matter of choice and actions not being affraid of death a god of whatever

  • @DZeRTEAGLE You not only need him to guide you, but you need him to save you! He is not only for people who are lost or blind, but for sinners! You can be good, but how many sins have you committed in your life time? Not only towards others but towards an infinitely holy and righteous God? You only live this life once, and then comes eternity. You have only this short window of life to receive the free gift of Christ, and be reconciled to God. Don't waste this opportunity, seek Jesus.

  • @Siscast i don't fear death, death is part of life, the end of a cycle and no one has ever died and came back to life to tell us how is it in the darkness of the grave. all these stories are myths to me. My only guide is science cause it doesn't lie those people Jesus Muhamad are semit they are part of a culture shared in the mideast, i'm living in europe this is not my culture...native americans(indians) don't pray jesus it's not their culture.

  • @DZeRTEAGLE U don't fear death? But u want to live don't u? Jesus has died and come back. Science is a process, and it has no contradiction with what Jesus said. Jesus isn't part of a culture. Every nation in the world have heard of Jesus Christ and there are born again Christians everywhere, not part of a culture. Jesus spoke the truth. The evidence of the historicity and reliability of Jesus Christ is overwhelming. Read the words of Jesus

  • @Siscast yeah i don't fear death! i was given life and by definition, the obligation to die in order to keep the nature in balance. if i have to die can i do? runaway from death? it impossible, even stars cease to exist, galaxies disapear, big things die why wouldn't I? jesus Is aa part of a culture, he is born in what we call palestine and use to talk aramaic. his culture as a man had nothing to do with yours, american citizen. you better learn science and analyse bible, to open your eyes.

  • @DZeRTEAGLE How many times have you sinned in your life? You are guilty before a Holy and Righteous God and he will find you guilty in the day of judgement. Your only way out of God's wrath and eternity in Hell is Jesus Christ. Don't be deceived, cry out to him while you have time. Your life is just a vapor, eternity is ETERNITY.

  • @Siscast yeah agree life is just a vapor, that why we don't need to fear the death cause no one on this eath has ever died and came back to tell us how heaven or hell look like, not even jesus told us how, his own rotten body looks like. I sinned when i was christian but i stopped when I realised that god is just a MYTH, just like dragons. one thing is sure, the wall of our universe is 13 billion light year from you ans I, that's an eternity. science has to guide us cause science can't cheat.

  • @DZeRTEAGLE Mate, its Laurence from Australia. Check out Creation.com to see, scientifically speaking, evolution is flawed. You don't even need a bible to prove this, however there is a vast amount of information available to help you understand this. There is also powerful evidence for a young earth and Noah's flood. Also, Google or Youtube '23 Minutes in Hell'. Bill WIESE will tell you exactly what Hell is like and it is not a place you want anyone to go. Your mate from OZ, Laurence

  • @treasuredroperX

    You would be right if atheists were consistent---but they are not. Atheists reject God and hate Him.

    If you debate one for a while, you eventually get to the heart of the issue and it will come out of them... they reveal eventually "I don't like God" in some degree. They criticize His actions unrighteously and suppress the truth... somehow it ends up in their minds that "I don't like God (rebellion) = God doesn't exist" which is about as fallacious as it gets.

  • @droptozro They are clearly anti-theist then, which is the same thing. They would say, as atheists, "It would be awful if it were true to have a God that watches you every minute of the day" Since they don't believe in theism anyway, they criticize the idea, because they do not like it.

  • @Bigjon145 - Also, since atheists don't want God around them or involved in their lives, then going to hell should be the answer to the atheists prayer. There, in hell, God will not ever bother them again or nudge them or be around them forever. But, yet they are even upset about that.

  • When you answered the last question, you forgot the most important thing in all of christian life and reaching out with gospel; Prayer.

  • What religion is this?

  • @AngeliaClaire Christian.

  • I love you all! Just thought I'd say that.

    Keep up the good work!

  • God controls disaster.

  • @praiselordgrace Mankind created disaster, God had nothing to do with it.

  • Exodus 12:29

    And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

  • Leviticus 26:29 "And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons"

  • Deuteronomy 28:53 "And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee"

  • Jeremiah 19:9"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters"

  • @Danmill23

    Yes, famines are terrible things ... the LORD sent many upon the wicked.

  • You wouldnt vote for a person who will kill but your god instructs to kill.

  • @time2learnnow So you're pro-choice?

  • @time2learnnow So let me get this straight. You think a woman has the right to choose to kill her unborn child, yet you have a problem with God when he chooses to do as He wills with His own creation? Why can a woman choose but not God?

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  • @todocambiara2 The ad hominem... the tool of the person who has no argument.

  • @thewayofthemaster because there's no such thing as a god. god is a man made concept. We as a people decide how to live. What if a woman was raped and she does not want the baby. What if it was a teenager who can not take care of her baby. What if the woman happens to live in a poverty stricken country and there's no hope? Why would your god let the man rape the woman. Secular decisions are what we as a people have to live by. It is a collective decision from us in the real world.

  • @time2learnnow These are your arguments for killing a baby? What about 2- year olds that were the product of rape? Can they be killed? What about 2-year olds whose mothers cannot take care of them? Can they be killed? Why is it different for the unborn? Age, size and location do not change a human's right to live. I know of two adult ladies who were the product of rape. Do you dare tell them to their face that their life does not count and should have been killed before they were born?

  • @thewayofthemaster How much of what I said did you understand? if a woman who was raped decides to raise her child, then good for her. She shows courage and made an educated decision about her life forward.

    If she aborts her baby, christians think its a sin and she should be punished on top of her struggle to decide whether a god will punish her further forever.

    We as real people come together and help the woman and rehabilitate her or help her. Not god. Your god will torture her forever.

  • @thewayofthemaster Continue 2: I would tell those ladies who were raped their life counts a heck of a great deal. I would rather they keep their chidren but its not up to me whether they would keep their children or not. They simply decide whats good for their future, whether it's abortion or keeping their children. I will never know how it feels to have been raped and make a life changing decision whether to keep my children or not.

    If they want to abort their children, we come together....

  • @thewayofthemaster continue 3..... we or proffesionals come together to help those women in their choice. The voice(GOD) in your head simply says they would be tortured forever once they make that "uneducated" choice.

  • Respond to this video... This is utter stupidity from you guys to think that god created you and he can do what he wants. Prove your god to me. What if allah asks you why you didn't worship him? Oh he probably isn't the real deal huh? Your god is the real deal. Buddhism is better then christianity because it does not advocate killing another person or even hurting someone else. Religion is a force for evil. It is bad and it infects us in our deepest core. Get rid of your evil ways wayofthemaster

  • Respond to this video... Sure you are not doing any harm to others, but a believe system determines actions. There are people in north africa killing their own children because they think their kids are witches. We all know there's no such thing as witches but because the bible says "do not suffer a witch to live", it is quite fine for bronze age ancient old texts to determine how we as rational people should live.

  • @thewayofthemaster Haha, great reply. 

  • I can't properly conceive that I just saw the death of five people.

  • God is the one who did it ... 

  • @FillTheirVoid  No, it was an accident.

  • @BoukenCrimson

    Amos 3:6 Is a trumpet blown in a city, and the people are not afraid? Does disaster come to a city, unless the LORD has done it?

    There are no accidents in the sovereign God's universe.

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