it would work if you could make the magnets as small as a rotor on a vehicle and increase the power of the magnet tremendously...but you cant. A magnet can only be so strong at a certain size, usually the bigger, the stronger...small magnets can be very powerful but even if you had one the size of a brake rotor, it doesn't produce enough force to stop the inertia of a 3000lb vehicle traveling at high or even low speed. not even 4 rotor sized magnets could stop that.
@BaanTech I think it miniaturization and electromagnetic would be very possible. Replace parking brake with a fail safe like an air brake found on semis.
@BaanTech 12 yr old can lock up bike tires. Later, that same kid can lock up his rear passenger wheel with the emergency break, again with basically his bare hands. Could be a lot of things preventing it, doesn't matter how powerful it is if your car loses power, etc.
But damn imagine bringing brakes with zero heat generation to the market.
I just wouldn't underestimate the power of the magnet. If a series of magnetic pulses can start a bullet, then it is a fact that they can stop it.
if memory serves they use magnetic braking in lifts (elevators) and funfair rides for safety, to names some, magnetic self induction (i think) normally used with something like aluminium.
move the other handle douche bag , you must not want people to know you are one of them ,i pity your soul to lie to humanity and keep this from being in every back yard in the country
you can stop it using another magnet, dude im 13 and i can figure this out. how are you gonna ask a dumb question like that. magnets can be powered by batteries, a high powered charged magnet can pretty much stop anything, the same thing with a magnet at a junk yard against an out of control car. its simple dude.
@MrHobiecat thats still not free energy, it takes energy to go to starbucks but thats not the point. the point is theres no such thing as a free lunch. basic economics
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@arnostaal Moving the two arms at the same time makes no difference to the problem with the idea of this sort of machine. You can prove it to yourself with a little thinking about simplified cases.
Consider the case with just one pole on the rotor and one on the stator you move. Think about the force between the pole you are moving and the one on the rotor. Notice that the only way that the rotor can gain any energy out of the situation is by taking energy from your arm's motion.
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No more brake pads needed. And no more new wheel drums required after so many break jobs. But can it stop the spinning wheel instantly? I can see how this idea can be useful; however, why not utilize the spinning wheel energy and produce electricity to charge a battery by adding a copper coil on the outside instead of permanent magnets like the Prius does in its wheel.
instantaneous stoppage of the wheel would result in slipping of the tires of whatever its use is... uncontrolled deceleration is extremely dangerous
@explorerSG1 - This kind of thing was used as a "brake" on the driveshaft of semi-tractors and was just too difficult to manage as it was easier and more efficient to use "jake brakes", or any of the other types of engine brakes. It also had an annoying habit of causing wrecks as they only used it on the drive shaft. Adapting it to trailers would have meant modifying the trailers to use axle shafts instead of single drums on each set of wheels. It also twisted drive shafts in two after a while.
@explorerSG1 - The term "permanent magnet" is a misnomer. There are no magnets that will retain capacitance permanently without outside quantum effects renewing them. The charging capacity of a unit also retards the free motion of the wheel. It does extract a price, albeit minor. The jury is out re: efficiencies.
but how would it preform under a load...even if it was only a 500lbs super green car...i dont think it would work honestly..but feel free to prove me wrong
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@dodecagonxxv uuuuummm...it wasnt supposed to keep rotating...did you read the title at all....hes claiming that this design could be used like a car brake....if you look at it, it kinda resembles one
I think you're suppose to press down with both sides simultaneously but then again your device does look fancy enough to constitute official debate.
@secobi It doesn't matter whether you move one side or both. It is a simple matter to prove that no such machine can ever be a source of energy. No combination of motions of magnetic poles can ever create energy.
@knowledgemonger to create energy you must be able to fry a sausage in pan for to minutes otherwise the magnets from the south pole will be BOE and wow nerds will rage at you forever as the hot air balloon sinks because of miss piggy ;)
@knowledgemonger that's sloppy wording, you should not get use to speaking in hyperbole when speaking of science.. first off, no, it's not a simple matter to 'prove it' but it is a simple matter to assume 'it' to be true just as much as it is a simple matter to assume that the earth revolves around the sun rather than actually _demonstrating it_ which takes a year (meaning not going to some website with annual photography and then assume all the data to be collected correctly).
@secobi It isn't hyperbole to say that no energy is ever created by the motions of magnetic poles. All you can ever do is convert energy from one form to another. The mechanical energy to move the poles can end up as electrical energy when you are done, but there is not more than you started with. Changing the form of energy does not count as creating ti.
@knowledgemonger i dont understand how you guys ended up talking about making power from magnetism in the first place considering this video is demenstrating how magnets could be used as a braking system.but to respond to ur comments on whether or not magnets themselves can be used to create electricity all i can say is look up some info on alternating current.alternators.or even trasphormers.one coil is loaded and its magnetic field induces potential on the other coil. magnetsarefullofpotential
@hardhatg69 The maker of this video was testing the claims of the Perendev folks. He did it before they got arrested and the fraud was so obvious to all. He want to try to reproduce their claimed results.
This is why the discussion was about creating energy.
@knowledgemonger (cont.) second off, your statement at face value is completely backwards. Almost every form of energy you use comes from some motion of magnetic poles across a wire. You can call me dense because I know what your are _trying_ to refer to but I'm not going to give it any credibility based off your poor and lazy choice of words and also because you didn't try and understand what I was referring to; therefore let us engage in disservicing eachother and other would be readers.
@secobi I will skip the chance to call you "dense". You just haven't thought through the issue. It is a question of "create" vs "convert from one form to another". Notice that I said "create".
@knowledgemonger I know the 2nd law of thermodynamics and the conservation of matter very well. Just because you said the word "create" like a BOSS doesn't mean when we extract energy from an alignment of magnets that it's being created by the magnets. Its just like the quartz (potential piezoelectric effect), when we're dealing with magnets we are dealing with an extremely efficient 'storage' of potential energy. The question IS how efficiently we can USE that storage on a mechanism & circuit.
@knowledgemonger so back to this statement, because this is where your hyperbole becomes a lie:
>It is a simple matter to prove that no such machine can ever be a source of energy.
Magnets ARE a source of energy. Where there's magnetism there is voltage. PERIOD; this is THE simple matter, it's called electromagnetism. So if you have anything to say, I recommend you start again by acknowledging my origin challenge. You have been debunked - see you at ohms law.
@secobi You need to go study a little physics. What you are claiming is just flat wrong. There is not voltage where there is magnetism. It takes a rate of change in magnetic field for there to be a voltage.
Using UPPER CASE to say things that are nonsense just makes you look extra foolish.
@secobi "Magnets ARE a source of energy. Where there's magnetism there is voltage. PERIOD; this is THE simple matter, it's called electromagnetism" Try looking up electromagnetism then you will realize you have just made a complete tit of yourself.
@fizzguts I get a little excited and presumptuous about highly-efficient free-energy machines but I definitely don't want to perpetuate lies or misconceptions. I'm not here to claim those inventions to be miraculous perpetual motion machines nor salaciously slander inventions, inventors and interested parties. I was wrong, yes, tit, yes, complete tit, no. You might want to do like me and drop the zeal a tad, it's best for everybody in the long run.
How did you build this? The magnets are never seen and it looks as though you didn't do the offset correctly. In fact, I'd say this is just an effort to prove the principle does not work. Good try!
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It fails as a brake until you show it actually stopping a real amount of weight.
Twirling something with 2 fingers and then getting something to stop it doesn't mean it's useful. A car weighs like 3000 lbs whereas that weighs like, zero.
you can get free energy from magnets its just theres resistance so you do need to put some energy back into the motor, however if its effiecnt enough it should produce more energy then whats put in.
Also what if there was no resistance, to the magnet is levitated and put inside a vacuume while it spins? Think about it. Why dose the earth orbit the sun and moon orbit the earth but never slow down?
big buisness such as the oil companies dont want that, they cant make money off it.
@Mastervitro You can't get free energy from magnets. The idea that you can take energy out of a magnetic field and still have the magnetic field left when you are done is like thinking you can get water out of a bucket full of water and still have a bucket full of water when you are done.
As for why the planets orbit, you need to learn a little physics.  If you really care about the energy future, I would advise you to study up on physics, dust off the mental tool kit and join the effort.
@knowledgemonger Your physics must be different than the rest of the world's. Now you use the laws of physics to discuss the planets formations?....LOL.
Why don't you enlighten the folks here with your electromagnet theories to explain that too?
@JoeFitant My physics is the physics of the rest of the world. You obviously have not gone and learned some physics as I suggested nor have you obtained help of this fixation you have.
Others: You will notice that I did not say anything about the formation of planets. I told Mastervitro to go learn some physics to understand why planets orbit. It appears that JoeFitant doesn't understand the difference between orbiting and formation.
@JoeFitant Since I don't post junk science, I know that there is nobody reading junk science written by me. You have demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of physics. You are confused about the difference between the formation and orbiting of planets. You don't know any of the physics of magnets. You hold beliefs that I have shown to be self contradictory with just a little logic.
@JoeFitant I am using the formulea for the energy in a magnetic field to show you not only that you are wrong but also to show you the right answer. You have argued that energy appears from nowhere. I have showed you exactly where the energy from the motion of a magnetic pole comes from.
@Mastervitro I have done real experiments and have made real measurements. The laws of physics do work quite nicely.
Making a machine that a little logic says won't work is a waste of time. The person who made this video was unaware of the logic. Made a machine and honestly reported the results. Several people have posted suggestions of "what he did wrong" to explain why it didn't work. They wanted details changed. There is always a pat explanation of the problem.
@knowledgemonger well id you dont mind i would like to see a video of you doing the exact experiment i suggested. levitate a magnet inside a vacumme, with 2 or 4 small magnets on the sides of the levitated magnet with alternated poles, and a coill around it. make sure to get the inside magnet spinning with an external magnet of get it spinning manuely before creating the vaccume. and if theres still some air resitance, the energy output will overcome the impute dramaticaly. i wana see you try
@Mastervitro So basically you want to see me waste my time on an experiment that can't work. There is no way to levitate a magnet with another and have it be stable unless electromagnets are involved so that you can control the force an servo the position of the levitated magnet. This is why all "magnetic spinners" have a point contact baring at one end. Without either a mechanical baring or a servo such things are alway dynamically unstable.
@knowledgemonger then do the experiment with the baring, i didnt mention it because i thought you were smart enough to know how to do it since you think so shurely that it wont work. Obiously you dont give a dam about the experiment and just want to tell me off because you belive so shurely that it wont work so your never gona try it. That or your an agent hired by the oil companies so stuff like that wont come out but im sure thats not it. Expirment and i win, dont experiment and i still win.
@Mastervitro I know it won't work because I have done real experiments in the past and have made measurements. I understand the physics. You want me to waste my time on something that anyone with a knowledge of physics will know can't work. I also don't flap my arms up and down in an attempt to fly. Do you want me to try that experiment too?
1) First - knowledgemonger is totally correct about it being impossible.
2) Blow your oil company conspiracy out your ass. If the big energy companies could develop a source of energy just from magnets they would have done it years ago and you would be paying more for i the energy development. They ahve the money and power. Just a stupid excuse for failure ("It wasn't my fault")
3) You need to stop confusing video games with reality.
@JoeFitant Anyone can cheaply make it, so the oil companies wouldn't make nearly as much as they do now. Its circular consumption that generates continuous profit. Do some research into economics.
@Mastervitro I have been involved in alternative and grid energy for over 35 years. I do not need to look into any more economics of it. Home energy generation will never compete, economically with the big companies.. Get yourself a wind turbine or some solar PV panels and you will soon find out the grid is cheaper, unless you have a geographical problem.
@JoeFitant You need to read up on the magnetic suspension baring and re-read what I wrote. "There is no way to levitate a magnet with another and have it be stable unless electromagnets are involved so that you can control the force an servo the position of the levitated magnet." This statement is 100% correct. I suggest you take your own advice and also google on the subject before you attempt to argue.
You have just posted more evidence that you don't know what you are talking about.
@knowledgemonger I worked professionally maintaining 40,000 magnetic repulsion suspension systems using only magnets and no electromagnets. You keep posting like amoronic statements with your cocky stupidity. Usually a person with a grade school diploma would demonstrate more logic ability. You continually try to contort and twist arguments & forrmulae while demonstrating your lack of focus to the world here. You can't seem to follow a line of logic, let alone apply some basic physics formulae.
Well it looks like Knowledgemonger is afraid of being wrong, is anyone willing to do my experiment and post it? I would totaly do the experiment myself but im poor D:
@Mastervitro I am not afraid. I know for a fact that it won't work. Take no comfort in FoeFitant's support. He is a nut job who thinks that constantly denying the laws of physics will somehow make them conform to his set of ideas.
The reason the system you suggested can't be stable is because the force between poles falls off as the square of the distance. You can do the math on any arrangement of poles. Find the point where it appears to balance and then suppose a small displacement.
@Mastervitro My reason does make sense. You need to do a little math to see why. Try proposing any combination of magnetic poles on the stationary part and the part you hope to hold up. Align them so that the sum of the forces is only vertical. Once you have that look at the sign of the second derivative. You will discover that it will not settle at the point but will run away in whatever direction there is an error.
@larryllix It is JoeFitant who is confused. He is the one supporting claims of energy from nowhere and now is making a claim that you can disprove with just a little googling or doing some math. The specific cases are easier to do than the general but both are within the grasp of the average person with university math.
@JoeFitant I have proved that you don't know about magnetics.  You just proved that you don't know how magnetic barrings work. You claimed that they can be stable without (a) a point of contact or (b) a servo. I invite the others to go look at what you said and see how wrong you are.
@JoeFitant You are now adding telling lies to the list of your faults. I know that no such system can be stable without either (a) a point of contact or (b) a servo system. I suggest you (and others) go google on "magnetic baring" and see just what a huge blunder you have made with your claims.
@knowledgemonger blah...blah...blah... You have totally discredited yourself via use of BS. now.
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Go to school and learn something useful. Your plight is a good one but your understanding of the basics is flawed. Many knowledable people have told you this.
@JoeFitant Anyone who cares to can google on your claim about magnetic barrings and find that you are wrong. You have shown that you don't know the physics of magnetics and you aren't even careful enough to check with google before you post.
You claimed that a magnetic barring can work without either (a) one point of mechanical contact or (b) a servo system. Anyone with knowledge of such things will confirm that you are wrong.
@JoeFitant errr actually ... that isnt entirley true it is perfectly possible to levitate perminint magnets with other permininant magnets when a stabaliser (diamegnetic) material such as bismuth or pyro graphite is used
@mimic58 You can't even do it with a diamagnetic material in the question. This is what there is always a servo or a point contact. Even though the math at first makes it look like it may be true try putting some numbers in and you will see the problem.
@knowledgemonger you have lost me there , I have a magnet floating between two peaces of pyrolitic graphite there is no point of contact it is suspended between the two plates of graphite by a second magnet above there is clearly a 3mm gap both above and below the target magnet
@mimic58 The setup is more complex than you describe. I was referring to practical cases. You need way too strong of magnets to lift too little weight to make it work for any sort of a machine that does anything more than hold the magnet its self up. This is why I made the comment about the numbers. In the setup, you need powerful magnets at some distance to cancel the weight and the diamagnetic material very close.
@knowledgemonger Ohhh i see what your getting at now yes and on this point totally agree there is no way you could power something from it mechanically its only perpose is a novelty item
@mimic58 Thanx mimic58! Cute demo toy! Years ago in a novelty shop I saw, and performed, a small toy magnet box with a magnetic spinning top floating above it. I forget the exact arrangement of magnets but the top had to be spin and balanced at an exact place and then it floated in the air about 1" above the box. This was all static magnetics. It was $50 and too expensive for me but I wanted it badly. Without the spin the top lost balance and slide off to the side.
Remember dont be Shipples...Just because one or two are fake that doesnt mean that all of them are....!! Magnetic motor is out there and we have seen a FEW working until now. IT is just the establishment dont want people to talk to much about it!!!?
@Ebdan88 There are no "magnet motors". The only videos that appear to show a working one are known fakes. If you really care about the subject, I suggest you go learn enough physics to at least see why this is the case, dust of the mental tool kit and go looking for real answers.
Surely he realizes that both halves need to come together at the same time. He's just demonstrating that the device can stop the magnets. Fuckin' magnets... fuckin' miracles.
@djsufferthing He realizes that the machine can't work no matter how you bring the side together. Bringing one side in or both makes no difference. It is very straight forward to prove that the average torque except for losses of all such arrangements of magnets is exactly equal to zero. He has significant losses in the machine hence it works as a break.
@djsufferthing The thing that is hard to understand is why someone who has seen a video that shows that the idea doesn't work would post a comment suggesting that it does.
A little physics:
(1) The force between two magnetic poles is always along a line between the poles.
(2) The force only depends on the current positions. Previous positions do not matter.
(3) When there are more than two poles, the forces add together.
This plus a little logic will show you the reason.
@JoeFitant You are repeating your self. You really need to get over losing that argument. It is months ago now. You should just admit you were wrong, learn from your error and go on.  This constantly coming back to your past failure isn't healthy for you.
@knowledgemonger Do you just post nonsense in order to keep the hits for your blather going?
Everytime you are challenged you go into ad hominem attacks to distract from the embarrasment you should feel. You seem to think you are some authority oin magnetism and yet keep posting a bunch of nonsense to different readers.
@JoeFitant You posted complete nonsense and lost the argument badly. You were unaware of the equation
E = integral (B^2/u0) /2
You did not know that magnetic fields are a form of energy and I explained to you that they are and gave your the equation to figure out the energy content of the field. Under your set of beliefs, you had energy appearing from nowhere. You knew that this was wrong and yet you believed things that made it a conclusion of your own beliefs. Now go away and learn.
@JoeFitant You are the one who doesn't understand. Even after I have explained it to you and shown you the equation for the energy you still seem not able to grasp the truth. Your system of beliefs has energy appearing from nowhere even thought you also seem to believe that this is not possible. You need to go away and learn a little about the physics befor you comment further.
@JoeFitant You are now trying to revise the past. This makes you a liar on top of your other faults.
You really need to give it up and get over the fact that you lost the argument. You really don't understand the physics well enough to be commenting on it. You lost the argument badly because you made claims that contradicted each other.
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@Ebdan88 There is no free energy. It is just one of those myths that people seem to want to believe in. The result is that it is easy for con artists to use claims of free energy to cheat people of their money.
Real energy solutions will ake time and effort and real science to do. The guy who made this video demonstrated that something is just a blind alley. Hopefully others will see it and learn that the "magnet motor" idea is just bogus.
@KennyBeezwax The machine we see in this video is a net loser of mechanical energy. It converts the initial spin into heat. Thus there is no point in discussing what to do with the mechanical energy it outputs.
The creator of this video has done a real experiment and showed the honest results. Hopefully at this point he is now working on something useful.  No combination of the motions of magnetic poles can ever create energy, so there is no point to machines like this.
@sebosfato He* did a real experiment and posted the real results. He acted as a real scientist would. He did not fake up his results or withhold the information about the failure of the idea. He put it out there in the public so that all could see it and learn from it that the idea simply doesn't work. We should cheer that not laugh. The only basis to say "boo" is that he did not explain the theory he was disproving but this is a small point.
your magnets around the circumference really have to be spaced closer together and overlapping on a sub 45 degree angle for them to shield the opposite pole, try running a compass needle around the outside, your design will make the needle "bounce" back and forth between magnets, if the magnets are overlapping tightly, the needle won't bounce...a very strange condition.
@m3axis157 There is no combination of magnets no matter how many nor how exactly they are placed that can ever make this work. Ignoring the losses, the average torque of all such things is exactly zero. Adding more zeros together by adding more magnets won't change that. You don't even need to know a lot of physics to know this.
In the more general case: There is no motion of magnetic poles that can ever produce any energy.
@knowledgemonger There you go with the magnetic motion can't generate electricity again.
How the fukk do you think the grid generates electricity? By motion of electromagnetic fields.
I guess I have to track you down and straighten you out from time to time. What you do is great but some of the crap you spew is unforgivable. Choose you rexplanations more carefully.
@JoeFitant I didn't say that magnetic motion can't generate electricity. I said that no motion of magnets can ever produce any energy. Before you start trying to claim that what I said is wrong, make sure you really know what I said. What I really said is correct. What you claimed I said is wrong. I suggest you read more carefully and go study up before getting into this argument.
@JoeFitant I have already answered your question. That you think I didn't suggests that you have some sort of mental problem. For this I suggest that you seek treatment.
There is no combination of the motions of magnetic poles that can ever create energy. In the case of a generator, mechanical energy is converted into electrical energy. No energy is created only the form is changed.
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zortmx44 1 month ago
you'er not doing it right
urtimund 2 months ago
But, i would say that with some more ingenuity, this could work eventually. Great idea, but its just not quite there yet.
BaanTech 2 months ago
it would work if you could make the magnets as small as a rotor on a vehicle and increase the power of the magnet tremendously...but you cant. A magnet can only be so strong at a certain size, usually the bigger, the stronger...small magnets can be very powerful but even if you had one the size of a brake rotor, it doesn't produce enough force to stop the inertia of a 3000lb vehicle traveling at high or even low speed. not even 4 rotor sized magnets could stop that.
BaanTech 2 months ago
@BaanTech I think it miniaturization and electromagnetic would be very possible. Replace parking brake with a fail safe like an air brake found on semis.
us11csalyer2 2 months ago
@BaanTech 12 yr old can lock up bike tires. Later, that same kid can lock up his rear passenger wheel with the emergency break, again with basically his bare hands. Could be a lot of things preventing it, doesn't matter how powerful it is if your car loses power, etc.
But damn imagine bringing brakes with zero heat generation to the market.
I just wouldn't underestimate the power of the magnet. If a series of magnetic pulses can start a bullet, then it is a fact that they can stop it.
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ThinkStage 3 months ago
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ThePhildard2lart 4 months ago
??? it doesn't seems to work!!! What's the hell of shit you are showing???
ThePhildard2lart 5 months ago
very nice build, good job.
if memory serves they use magnetic braking in lifts (elevators) and funfair rides for safety, to names some, magnetic self induction (i think) normally used with something like aluminium.
dasraiser 5 months ago
@dasraiser Kind of... the brake use Lenz's Law.
look it up (copper pipe & magnet is cool).
Unmannedair 4 months ago
@Unmannedair yeah, theres a vid on here that shows magnetic levitation with two high speed rotating copper tubes, well cool
dasraiser 4 months ago
It'a a great brake, but u always have to stay positive when u drive.
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ghpiygfuy 6 months ago
If you'd ask me, I'd suggest that this was already invented even before brakes were invented. But what do I know?!
NinjaDag1 6 months ago
meh
DanFrederiksen 6 months ago
why did you not move the other side? Its obvious that the magnetic force exerted is not balanced or equal, of course its not going to work.
But why are you tying to disprove something without even replicating it properly?
forgetfuldays 7 months ago
@forgetfuldays
disprove what?
2kapufa 5 months ago
@2kapufa If your dumb enough not to understand my comment, then your too dumb for me to explain.
forgetfuldays 5 months ago
@forgetfuldays
Sorry to inform you but you were the one too dumb to recognize a simple rhetoric question.
One cannot disprove something by failing to prove it, but you were dumb enough to think that is what the author of the video wanted to.
Anyway, this magnet motor was never proved to work, moreover the pseudo-scientific hypothesis being able to work was disproved many times before.
Btw not only you are dumb, but you are a douchebag too. Sorry.
2kapufa 5 months ago
@2kapufa lol, you make no sense
forgetfuldays 5 months ago
@forgetfuldays
lol you're retarded
janjohandealgenman 5 months ago
move the other handle douche bag , you must not want people to know you are one of them ,i pity your soul to lie to humanity and keep this from being in every back yard in the country
headlightguy 7 months ago
you people saying diymagnetmotor has great stuff,have you bought and built
the motor or are you just spamming and your a affiliate?
gpavid59 7 months ago
i prefer the cd
assasong 8 months ago
El de" Perendev",prende supuestamente sin darle "cuerda" si hay que darle impulso es falso no funciona.
eeduardoruiz 8 months ago
You forgot to hook up the power source.
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It is a great break! Patent it!
wyrrox 9 months ago 35
@wyrrox This concept exists in magnetic powder brakes and clutches since decades. This is about as new as a shovel.
Pruneau 9 months ago
@Pruneau This is very different from magnetic powder brakes.
wyrrox 7 months ago 2
brakes that never wear out .
32qazx 9 months ago
you can stop it using another magnet, dude im 13 and i can figure this out. how are you gonna ask a dumb question like that. magnets can be powered by batteries, a high powered charged magnet can pretty much stop anything, the same thing with a magnet at a junk yard against an out of control car. its simple dude.
werwr4 10 months ago
yea going like 5 feet an hour try a 70mph fast thing and see how good u can stop it.
icebred 10 months ago
You want free energy?
Goto starbucks and steal a cup of coffee
Idiots!
MrHobiecat 11 months ago
@MrHobiecat thats still not free energy, it takes energy to go to starbucks but thats not the point. the point is theres no such thing as a free lunch. basic economics
fatqwert200 9 months ago
@fatqwert200 Please, this is basic physics. It has nothing to do with economics.
GordanCable 8 months ago
how long will it run before the magnets go dead
moffett8 11 months ago
@moffett8 so much time nobody can say maybe till the end of the universe idk just sayen
fatqwert200 9 months ago
Wow! You spin it, and it stops after!!! gottotry
RealStuntDriver 11 months ago
I know they'r already using this unto sport cars,right?
Torcika 11 months ago
Mmmmhh. Ferrari F1 used a similar thing??
mozilo 11 months ago
Get rid of all metal in your design, and check your geometry.
Majorupheaval 1 year ago
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Dynamic Braking, using the same principles has been used commercially for almost a hyundred years.
larryllix 1 year ago 18
@nerrutis
also the arrangment of magnets is not as its in the vids where it seems to work....
arnostaal 1 year ago
@arnostaal Give me a link to even ONE video that shows a WORKING Perendev motor! That is BS and you know it. There are NO videos ANYWHERE showing Mike Brady's garbage WORKING
ian5576 1 year ago 2
@ian5576 i guess it's not perendev, but it works! watch?v=jYcjjSfiNNE
ookthomas 11 months ago
@ookthomas You're joking right?
ian5576 11 months ago
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grumpyfarms 1 year ago
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perplexfraction 1 year ago
you did not close both arms at the same time... that could make the difference..
arnostaal 1 year ago
@arnostaal Moving the two arms at the same time makes no difference to the problem with the idea of this sort of machine. You can prove it to yourself with a little thinking about simplified cases.
Consider the case with just one pole on the rotor and one on the stator you move. Think about the force between the pole you are moving and the one on the rotor. Notice that the only way that the rotor can gain any energy out of the situation is by taking energy from your arm's motion.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
Magnet Propelled Generator creates free electricity. I will email you a link to the blueprint of this Generator just email me and put "Send Magnet Generator Blueprint" into the subject line. email: protrucker2008@yahoo.com
morrowscott69 1 year ago
Nicely done mytubedude, finally an honest video about magnet motors!
ian5576 1 year ago
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minimonika1 1 year ago
You've discovered "the brake".
MandalayWind 1 year ago 2
where is the other side? isnt there supposed to be two things closing in on the wheel?
fitzgerald95971 1 year ago
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MONSQUEEKY 1 year ago
No more brake pads needed. And no more new wheel drums required after so many break jobs. But can it stop the spinning wheel instantly? I can see how this idea can be useful; however, why not utilize the spinning wheel energy and produce electricity to charge a battery by adding a copper coil on the outside instead of permanent magnets like the Prius does in its wheel.
explorerSG1 1 year ago
@explorerSG1
instantaneous stoppage of the wheel would result in slipping of the tires of whatever its use is... uncontrolled deceleration is extremely dangerous
fitshuck 1 year ago
@explorerSG1 - This kind of thing was used as a "brake" on the driveshaft of semi-tractors and was just too difficult to manage as it was easier and more efficient to use "jake brakes", or any of the other types of engine brakes. It also had an annoying habit of causing wrecks as they only used it on the drive shaft. Adapting it to trailers would have meant modifying the trailers to use axle shafts instead of single drums on each set of wheels. It also twisted drive shafts in two after a while.
vinha1006 1 year ago
@explorerSG1 - The term "permanent magnet" is a misnomer. There are no magnets that will retain capacitance permanently without outside quantum effects renewing them. The charging capacity of a unit also retards the free motion of the wheel. It does extract a price, albeit minor. The jury is out re: efficiencies.
vinha1006 1 year ago
but how would it preform under a load...even if it was only a 500lbs super green car...i dont think it would work honestly..but feel free to prove me wrong
hardhatg69 1 year ago
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porscheghcje 1 year ago
@porscheghcje Very true, Repost your comment cause they flagged it for spam
MONSQUEEKY 1 year ago
try testing that motor with a load. i bet it wont last long. besides, the reason why it keeps on rotating is that there is no friction and no load.
dodecagonxxv 1 year ago
@dodecagonxxv uuuuummm...it wasnt supposed to keep rotating...did you read the title at all....hes claiming that this design could be used like a car brake....if you look at it, it kinda resembles one
hardhatg69 1 year ago
so....It was used on trams for decades
toyotaprius79 1 year ago
I think you're suppose to press down with both sides simultaneously but then again your device does look fancy enough to constitute official debate.
secobi 1 year ago
@secobi It doesn't matter whether you move one side or both. It is a simple matter to prove that no such machine can ever be a source of energy. No combination of motions of magnetic poles can ever create energy.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Yes indeed, but there will still be stupid people out there who think it will work.
I can't imagine how many millions of dollars/pounds that have been wasted by individuals and companies, trying to break the laws of physics, heh
UOForums 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger to create energy you must be able to fry a sausage in pan for to minutes otherwise the magnets from the south pole will be BOE and wow nerds will rage at you forever as the hot air balloon sinks because of miss piggy ;)
killerdesouza 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger that's sloppy wording, you should not get use to speaking in hyperbole when speaking of science.. first off, no, it's not a simple matter to 'prove it' but it is a simple matter to assume 'it' to be true just as much as it is a simple matter to assume that the earth revolves around the sun rather than actually _demonstrating it_ which takes a year (meaning not going to some website with annual photography and then assume all the data to be collected correctly).
secobi 1 year ago
@secobi It isn't hyperbole to say that no energy is ever created by the motions of magnetic poles. All you can ever do is convert energy from one form to another. The mechanical energy to move the poles can end up as electrical energy when you are done, but there is not more than you started with. Changing the form of energy does not count as creating ti.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger i dont understand how you guys ended up talking about making power from magnetism in the first place considering this video is demenstrating how magnets could be used as a braking system.but to respond to ur comments on whether or not magnets themselves can be used to create electricity all i can say is look up some info on alternating current.alternators.or even trasphormers.one coil is loaded and its magnetic field induces potential on the other coil. magnetsarefullofpotential
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@hardhatg69 The maker of this video was testing the claims of the Perendev folks. He did it before they got arrested and the fraud was so obvious to all. He want to try to reproduce their claimed results.
This is why the discussion was about creating energy.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger (cont.) second off, your statement at face value is completely backwards. Almost every form of energy you use comes from some motion of magnetic poles across a wire. You can call me dense because I know what your are _trying_ to refer to but I'm not going to give it any credibility based off your poor and lazy choice of words and also because you didn't try and understand what I was referring to; therefore let us engage in disservicing eachother and other would be readers.
secobi 1 year ago
@secobi I will skip the chance to call you "dense". You just haven't thought through the issue. It is a question of "create" vs "convert from one form to another". Notice that I said "create".
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I know the 2nd law of thermodynamics and the conservation of matter very well. Just because you said the word "create" like a BOSS doesn't mean when we extract energy from an alignment of magnets that it's being created by the magnets. Its just like the quartz (potential piezoelectric effect), when we're dealing with magnets we are dealing with an extremely efficient 'storage' of potential energy. The question IS how efficiently we can USE that storage on a mechanism & circuit.
secobi 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger so back to this statement, because this is where your hyperbole becomes a lie:
>It is a simple matter to prove that no such machine can ever be a source of energy.
Magnets ARE a source of energy. Where there's magnetism there is voltage. PERIOD; this is THE simple matter, it's called electromagnetism. So if you have anything to say, I recommend you start again by acknowledging my origin challenge. You have been debunked - see you at ohms law.
secobi 1 year ago
@secobi You need to go study a little physics. What you are claiming is just flat wrong. There is not voltage where there is magnetism. It takes a rate of change in magnetic field for there to be a voltage.
Using UPPER CASE to say things that are nonsense just makes you look extra foolish.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@secobi "Magnets ARE a source of energy. Where there's magnetism there is voltage. PERIOD; this is THE simple matter, it's called electromagnetism" Try looking up electromagnetism then you will realize you have just made a complete tit of yourself.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts I get a little excited and presumptuous about highly-efficient free-energy machines but I definitely don't want to perpetuate lies or misconceptions. I'm not here to claim those inventions to be miraculous perpetual motion machines nor salaciously slander inventions, inventors and interested parties. I was wrong, yes, tit, yes, complete tit, no. You might want to do like me and drop the zeal a tad, it's best for everybody in the long run.
secobi 1 year ago
@fizzguts Ummmm.... No... MIT has a good course on electromagnetism online if you don't want to make a fool of yourself.
bloomingdedalus 1 year ago
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no no no
allan624420 1 year ago
How did you build this? The magnets are never seen and it looks as though you didn't do the offset correctly. In fact, I'd say this is just an effort to prove the principle does not work. Good try!
saturnx311 1 year ago
@saturnx311 I reckon
stdavross666 1 year ago
Free Energy is real but the coverup is strong, if you are interested in a REAL free energy machine then just search for the LT MAGNET MOTOR in the youtube video search , it is probably the ONLY working magnet motor out there. Join the free energy revolution!!
transfusablepng 1 year ago
no no no ... type in searl affect generator..... its increadible...
111alien111 1 year ago
Here's 2min vid:
Truth about the PERENDEV MAGNETIC MOTOR - Be Ware !!!
watch?v=Tk68gxfOeAc
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago
Disinfo
Tbonyandsteak 1 year ago
It fails as a brake until you show it actually stopping a real amount of weight.
Twirling something with 2 fingers and then getting something to stop it doesn't mean it's useful. A car weighs like 3000 lbs whereas that weighs like, zero.
HotnessTim 1 year ago
@HotnessTim He was being sarcastic. The design of the magnets was meant to serve as a motor, and he was saying it did exactly the opposite.
schmoogleman 1 year ago
not very effecient
skimowhite 1 year ago
Perendev is a good brake! This is all it is good for.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
you can get free energy from magnets its just theres resistance so you do need to put some energy back into the motor, however if its effiecnt enough it should produce more energy then whats put in.
Also what if there was no resistance, to the magnet is levitated and put inside a vacuume while it spins? Think about it. Why dose the earth orbit the sun and moon orbit the earth but never slow down?
big buisness such as the oil companies dont want that, they cant make money off it.
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro You can't get free energy from magnets. The idea that you can take energy out of a magnetic field and still have the magnetic field left when you are done is like thinking you can get water out of a bucket full of water and still have a bucket full of water when you are done.
As for why the planets orbit, you need to learn a little physics.  If you really care about the energy future, I would advise you to study up on physics, dust off the mental tool kit and join the effort.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Your physics must be different than the rest of the world's. Now you use the laws of physics to discuss the planets formations?....LOL.
Why don't you enlighten the folks here with your electromagnet theories to explain that too?
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant My physics is the physics of the rest of the world. You obviously have not gone and learned some physics as I suggested nor have you obtained help of this fixation you have.
Others: You will notice that I did not say anything about the formation of planets. I told Mastervitro to go learn some physics to understand why planets orbit. It appears that JoeFitant doesn't understand the difference between orbiting and formation.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Well if you can't impress them with nonsense, make up more nonsense!
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Do you really think anybody is reading your junk science?
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant Since I don't post junk science, I know that there is nobody reading junk science written by me. You have demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of physics. You are confused about the difference between the formation and orbiting of planets. You don't know any of the physics of magnets. You hold beliefs that I have shown to be self contradictory with just a little logic.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Your physics are confused. You use a formulae from one science to argue another subject.
You must have learned this stuff decades ago before senility.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant I am using the formulea for the energy in a magnetic field to show you not only that you are wrong but also to show you the right answer. You have argued that energy appears from nowhere. I have showed you exactly where the energy from the motion of a magnetic pole comes from.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Dosnt matter how smart you are or if you did the math right or of your a physics expert...
if it dosnt match with experimentation this its wrong!
Why dont you try it yourself rather then assuming its all wrong and fake
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro I have done real experiments and have made real measurements. The laws of physics do work quite nicely.
Making a machine that a little logic says won't work is a waste of time. The person who made this video was unaware of the logic. Made a machine and honestly reported the results. Several people have posted suggestions of "what he did wrong" to explain why it didn't work. They wanted details changed. There is always a pat explanation of the problem.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger well id you dont mind i would like to see a video of you doing the exact experiment i suggested. levitate a magnet inside a vacumme, with 2 or 4 small magnets on the sides of the levitated magnet with alternated poles, and a coill around it. make sure to get the inside magnet spinning with an external magnet of get it spinning manuely before creating the vaccume. and if theres still some air resitance, the energy output will overcome the impute dramaticaly. i wana see you try
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro So basically you want to see me waste my time on an experiment that can't work. There is no way to levitate a magnet with another and have it be stable unless electromagnets are involved so that you can control the force an servo the position of the levitated magnet. This is why all "magnetic spinners" have a point contact baring at one end. Without either a mechanical baring or a servo such things are alway dynamically unstable.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger then do the experiment with the baring, i didnt mention it because i thought you were smart enough to know how to do it since you think so shurely that it wont work. Obiously you dont give a dam about the experiment and just want to tell me off because you belive so shurely that it wont work so your never gona try it. That or your an agent hired by the oil companies so stuff like that wont come out but im sure thats not it. Expirment and i win, dont experiment and i still win.
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro I know it won't work because I have done real experiments in the past and have made measurements. I understand the physics. You want me to waste my time on something that anyone with a knowledge of physics will know can't work. I also don't flap my arms up and down in an attempt to fly. Do you want me to try that experiment too?
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@Mastervitro Three things.
1) First - knowledgemonger is totally correct about it being impossible.
2) Blow your oil company conspiracy out your ass. If the big energy companies could develop a source of energy just from magnets they would have done it years ago and you would be paying more for i the energy development. They ahve the money and power. Just a stupid excuse for failure ("It wasn't my fault")
3) You need to stop confusing video games with reality.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant Anyone can cheaply make it, so the oil companies wouldn't make nearly as much as they do now. Its circular consumption that generates continuous profit. Do some research into economics.
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro I have been involved in alternative and grid energy for over 35 years. I do not need to look into any more economics of it. Home energy generation will never compete, economically with the big companies.. Get yourself a wind turbine or some solar PV panels and you will soon find out the grid is cheaper, unless you have a geographical problem.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger OMG!
"There is no way to levitate a magnet with another and have it be stable unless electromagnets are involved". ROFLMFAO!!!
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Every magnetic suspension Watthour meter uses this principle. .
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KNOWLEDGMONGER YOU CONTINALLY POST MORONIC STATEMENTS WITH A LOOSE MOUTH!
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THINK FIRST THEN POST!
JoeFitant 1 year ago 2
@JoeFitant You need to read up on the magnetic suspension baring and re-read what I wrote. "There is no way to levitate a magnet with another and have it be stable unless electromagnets are involved so that you can control the force an servo the position of the levitated magnet." This statement is 100% correct. I suggest you take your own advice and also google on the subject before you attempt to argue.
You have just posted more evidence that you don't know what you are talking about.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I worked professionally maintaining 40,000 magnetic repulsion suspension systems using only magnets and no electromagnets. You keep posting like amoronic statements with your cocky stupidity. Usually a person with a grade school diploma would demonstrate more logic ability. You continually try to contort and twist arguments & forrmulae while demonstrating your lack of focus to the world here. You can't seem to follow a line of logic, let alone apply some basic physics formulae.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
Well it looks like Knowledgemonger is afraid of being wrong, is anyone willing to do my experiment and post it? I would totaly do the experiment myself but im poor D:
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro I am not afraid. I know for a fact that it won't work. Take no comfort in FoeFitant's support. He is a nut job who thinks that constantly denying the laws of physics will somehow make them conform to his set of ideas.
The reason the system you suggested can't be stable is because the force between poles falls off as the square of the distance. You can do the math on any arrangement of poles. Find the point where it appears to balance and then suppose a small displacement.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger
Then do the expirment and post a video...
Also your reason dosnt make sense.
Mastervitro 1 year ago
@Mastervitro My reason does make sense. You need to do a little math to see why. Try proposing any combination of magnetic poles on the stationary part and the part you hope to hold up. Align them so that the sum of the forces is only vertical. Once you have that look at the sign of the second derivative. You will discover that it will not settle at the point but will run away in whatever direction there is an error.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@JoeFitant Just ignore the guy. In the long term he is trying to do good here. Just a little confused, apparently
larryllix 1 year ago
@larryllix It is JoeFitant who is confused. He is the one supporting claims of energy from nowhere and now is making a claim that you can disprove with just a little googling or doing some math. The specific cases are easier to do than the general but both are within the grasp of the average person with university math.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger You are classed as a troll with your double talk and nonsense.
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Very unfortunate as you seem quite knowledgable. Are you Searl's brother?
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant I have proved that you don't know about magnetics.  You just proved that you don't know how magnetic barrings work. You claimed that they can be stable without (a) a point of contact or (b) a servo. I invite the others to go look at what you said and see how wrong you are.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@JoeFitant You are now adding telling lies to the list of your faults. I know that no such system can be stable without either (a) a point of contact or (b) a servo system. I suggest you (and others) go google on "magnetic baring" and see just what a huge blunder you have made with your claims.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger blah...blah...blah... You have totally discredited yourself via use of BS. now.
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Go to school and learn something useful. Your plight is a good one but your understanding of the basics is flawed. Many knowledable people have told you this.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant Anyone who cares to can google on your claim about magnetic barrings and find that you are wrong. You have shown that you don't know the physics of magnetics and you aren't even careful enough to check with google before you post.
You claimed that a magnetic barring can work without either (a) one point of mechanical contact or (b) a servo system. Anyone with knowledge of such things will confirm that you are wrong.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@JoeFitant errr actually ... that isnt entirley true it is perfectly possible to levitate perminint magnets with other permininant magnets when a stabaliser (diamegnetic) material such as bismuth or pyro graphite is used
mimic58 1 year ago
@mimic58 You can't even do it with a diamagnetic material in the question. This is what there is always a servo or a point contact. Even though the math at first makes it look like it may be true try putting some numbers in and you will see the problem.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger you have lost me there , I have a magnet floating between two peaces of pyrolitic graphite there is no point of contact it is suspended between the two plates of graphite by a second magnet above there is clearly a 3mm gap both above and below the target magnet
mimic58 1 year ago
@mimic58 The setup is more complex than you describe. I was referring to practical cases. You need way too strong of magnets to lift too little weight to make it work for any sort of a machine that does anything more than hold the magnet its self up. This is why I made the comment about the numbers. In the setup, you need powerful magnets at some distance to cancel the weight and the diamagnetic material very close.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Ohhh i see what your getting at now yes and on this point totally agree there is no way you could power something from it mechanically its only perpose is a novelty item
mimic58 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger maybe iv mis understood what your trying to explain ???
mimic58 1 year ago
@JoeFitant theres several good demonstration videos on youtube of this exact princable, the one below is very clear on how it works.
watch?v=jOaBnJpIRzM
Theres a unit like this in my lab that i biult several years ago and its been holding a magnet in supension ever since
mimic58 1 year ago
@mimic58 Thanx mimic58! Cute demo toy! Years ago in a novelty shop I saw, and performed, a small toy magnet box with a magnetic spinning top floating above it. I forget the exact arrangement of magnets but the top had to be spin and balanced at an exact place and then it floated in the air about 1" above the box. This was all static magnetics. It was $50 and too expensive for me but I wanted it badly. Without the spin the top lost balance and slide off to the side.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant yes iv seen those their still available i think
mimic58 1 year ago
fake not enough wheels on it to make it work
MegaFracture 1 year ago
Remember dont be Shipples...Just because one or two are fake that doesnt mean that all of them are....!! Magnetic motor is out there and we have seen a FEW working until now. IT is just the establishment dont want people to talk to much about it!!!?
Ebdan88 1 year ago
@Ebdan88 There are no "magnet motors". The only videos that appear to show a working one are known fakes. If you really care about the subject, I suggest you go learn enough physics to at least see why this is the case, dust of the mental tool kit and go looking for real answers.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@Ebdan88 Which if the 1000 Million people in the "Establishments", in th world are you referring to?
They let you post, didn't they? Obviously they can't control the bottom level.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
Surely he realizes that both halves need to come together at the same time. He's just demonstrating that the device can stop the magnets. Fuckin' magnets... fuckin' miracles.
djsufferthing 1 year ago
@djsufferthing He realizes that the machine can't work no matter how you bring the side together. Bringing one side in or both makes no difference. It is very straight forward to prove that the average torque except for losses of all such arrangements of magnets is exactly equal to zero. He has significant losses in the machine hence it works as a break.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Magnet repel, wheel spin. What's so difficult to understand about how this works? Get your mind right, pilgrim.
djsufferthing 1 year ago
@djsufferthing The thing that is hard to understand is why someone who has seen a video that shows that the idea doesn't work would post a comment suggesting that it does.
A little physics:
(1) The force between two magnetic poles is always along a line between the poles.
(2) The force only depends on the current positions. Previous positions do not matter.
(3) When there are more than two poles, the forces add together.
This plus a little logic will show you the reason.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger
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(4) When an object moves in a direction that is not one direction it must be another way.
(5) If it doesn't move then it must be static
(6) If knowledgmonger (me) says something many times, over and over, it must be right.
(7) If he isnt a moron then he must be stupid.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant You are repeating your self. You really need to get over losing that argument. It is months ago now. You should just admit you were wrong, learn from your error and go on.  This constantly coming back to your past failure isn't healthy for you.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Do you just post nonsense in order to keep the hits for your blather going?
Everytime you are challenged you go into ad hominem attacks to distract from the embarrasment you should feel. You seem to think you are some authority oin magnetism and yet keep posting a bunch of nonsense to different readers.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger What I posted was correct. I suggest you go and study and then post intelligently about this subject matter.
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I see I have a lot of work to do with you, yet.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant You posted complete nonsense and lost the argument badly. You were unaware of the equation
E = integral (B^2/u0) /2
You did not know that magnetic fields are a form of energy and I explained to you that they are and gave your the equation to figure out the energy content of the field. Under your set of beliefs, you had energy appearing from nowhere. You knew that this was wrong and yet you believed things that made it a conclusion of your own beliefs. Now go away and learn.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger You post the same old unrelated crap repeatedly, demonstrating your lack of understanding.
Your unrelated formulae do not prove anything except your lack of understanding.
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Cripes the poster even tells the people it doesn't work but you are still here trying to look good to the children.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant You are the one who doesn't understand. Even after I have explained it to you and shown you the equation for the energy you still seem not able to grasp the truth. Your system of beliefs has energy appearing from nowhere even thought you also seem to believe that this is not possible. You need to go away and learn a little about the physics befor you comment further.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I still have a lot of work to do with you.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant You still haven't done that studying up or appears found any help for your fixation. You lost the argument because you are wrong.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger There was never any argument. Just you spouting moronic statements and me catching you at it..
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Try to avoid people with IQ's over 50 from now on and stick to poetry. You're definitely an artsie.
I still have a lot more work to do with you.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant You are now trying to revise the past. This makes you a liar on top of your other faults.
You really need to give it up and get over the fact that you lost the argument. You really don't understand the physics well enough to be commenting on it. You lost the argument badly because you made claims that contradicted each other.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I see we have a lot more work to do with you, yet.
There are some really important lessons you need to learn, here.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
OH MY GOD. Offcourse there are alot of Misinfo. On the line. They have CHeat you in the last 100 years. Your Grandfathers, and fathers and even you. work like a slave and then you go and pay El. every mounth. ??? Free Energi Exist. But one have to be Clever enough to see which one's are reall and which once aren't. Wake up SHipples who dont belive in FREE ENERGI!!
Ebdan88 1 year ago
@Ebdan88 There is no free energy. It is just one of those myths that people seem to want to believe in. The result is that it is easy for con artists to use claims of free energy to cheat people of their money.
Real energy solutions will ake time and effort and real science to do. The guy who made this video demonstrated that something is just a blind alley. Hopefully others will see it and learn that the "magnet motor" idea is just bogus.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger if he hooks it up to an altornator then batteries could be charged free...energy could be stored
KennyBeezwax 1 year ago
@KennyBeezwax The machine we see in this video is a net loser of mechanical energy. It converts the initial spin into heat. Thus there is no point in discussing what to do with the mechanical energy it outputs.
The creator of this video has done a real experiment and showed the honest results. Hopefully at this point he is now working on something useful.  No combination of the motions of magnetic poles can ever create energy, so there is no point to machines like this.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
hahahahaha great brake heheh 
sebosfato 1 year ago
@sebosfato He* did a real experiment and posted the real results. He acted as a real scientist would. He did not fake up his results or withhold the information about the failure of the idea. He put it out there in the public so that all could see it and learn from it that the idea simply doesn't work. We should cheer that not laugh. The only basis to say "boo" is that he did not explain the theory he was disproving but this is a small point.
* I assume he sorry if it should be she.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I just laugh because is funny but i know i did the same kind test... Didn't want to be bad. Sorry...
sebosfato 1 year ago
your magnets around the circumference really have to be spaced closer together and overlapping on a sub 45 degree angle for them to shield the opposite pole, try running a compass needle around the outside, your design will make the needle "bounce" back and forth between magnets, if the magnets are overlapping tightly, the needle won't bounce...a very strange condition.
m3axis157 1 year ago
@m3axis157 There is no combination of magnets no matter how many nor how exactly they are placed that can ever make this work. Ignoring the losses, the average torque of all such things is exactly zero. Adding more zeros together by adding more magnets won't change that. You don't even need to know a lot of physics to know this.
In the more general case: There is no motion of magnetic poles that can ever produce any energy.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
what is the physical state of electrons knowledge monger?
m3axis157 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger There you go with the magnetic motion can't generate electricity again.
How the fukk do you think the grid generates electricity? By motion of electromagnetic fields.
I guess I have to track you down and straighten you out from time to time. What you do is great but some of the crap you spew is unforgivable. Choose you rexplanations more carefully.
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant I didn't say that magnetic motion can't generate electricity. I said that no motion of magnets can ever produce any energy. Before you start trying to claim that what I said is wrong, make sure you really know what I said. What I really said is correct. What you claimed I said is wrong. I suggest you read more carefully and go study up before getting into this argument.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I guess you couldn't answer my simple question. I will repeat it to amuse the crwod with your avoidance....
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How the fukk do you think the grid generates electricity
JoeFitant 1 year ago
@JoeFitant I have already answered your question. That you think I didn't suggests that you have some sort of mental problem. For this I suggest that you seek treatment.
There is no combination of the motions of magnetic poles that can ever create energy. In the case of a generator, mechanical energy is converted into electrical energy. No energy is created only the form is changed.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger
From your posted nonsense. " I said that no motion ofï