RE: Black, Conscious and Gay-What Is The Problem?

[rgbblackpower]

I'm usually not judgemental but being gay is wrong. Even being a coward is wrong. I don't condone homosexuality or lesbianism. I don't allow homosexuals and lesbians in RBG. I don't even look at two fine women kiss each other. Being gay is a sexual disorder. In my opinion being consious is being on the right path. I really don't want to know their gay businesses. There is no gray,it's black and white,you know what I'm saying? Flat out. Sorry,sister I've got to be honest. Peace.

[blacksncommercials]

@rgbblackpower I hear what you're saying. I believe in living and letting others live. I am not gay, so to some extent, I can't relate. Some sexual acts seem unnatural to me, but aside from that, I try not to judge. I can work with anyone, as long as there is mutual respect and common purpose. I consider myself conscious. I read, research, and take an active interest in improving the current situation of those in my community and in the country as a whole. I don't conform to any group.

[rgbblackpower]

@blacksncommercials Thank you for replying,it's about getting it out on the table. It's about speaking our minds. It's not about keeping it to ourselves. I believe in following the rules,it's not about taking away your freedoms,it's not about making people suffer,it's about protecting us from hurting ourselves or others. For an instance I love women but I can't go sleeping around b/c I'll get hurt. Rules are for protection. Thank you.

[kameelean]

So you're saying people can be gay, but don't let you or your kids see it? People can be Black and gay and face discrimination from both angles, but don't mention gay when talking about Black struggles? I see Black-gay issues and a subset of Black issues, just as Black-female issues are a subset. Both groups are still Black. I don't like seeing Black men kiss either, but it exists. What's the point in burying your head in the sand? That would be like trying to be ignorant.

[AllieEmet]

We could stand to take a good lesson from the gays. They unite in a way the black community refuses to. There's valid history to consider & deconstruct, but it's a sad reality in terms of what holds black Americans back. Gays deal with dissension among sects & divisiveness too, but they will ALL come together for what they consider to be their most essential causes. Too many so-called conscious black Americans waste their energy bickering over tedious topics that don't amount to a hill of beans.

[blacksncommercials]

@AllieEmet We're way too easily distracted. The gay community has successfully acquired and used their political capital, we need to take note, because marching is only good for the exercise.

[AllieEmet]

You broke it down. All the way down. Great video :)

[ManeChic]

I totally agree with you. I feel the exact same way. I may not agree with the lifestyle, but understand everyones right to be themselves as long as it doesn't inflict or impose on others. I don't really need to know see the over-the-top expressions of anyones sexuality, particularly, in family or work settings. I also don't feel it's appropriate for heterosexuals to makes sexual references around family or work settings. I also think there's a fine line between tolerance and indoctrination

[blacksncommercials]

@ManeChic Thank you. Love the soapbox YT provides.

[dramabitchespolitics]

The over sexualization of children-I completely agree but it is not the schools it is the media. Look at miley cyrus gyrating while she is still hannah monatanna.

[blacksncommercials]

@dramabitchespolitics Yes, I really began noticing that when Britney Spears first hit the scene, now we have pre-teens posing for Vogue. You have to ask yourself, who's wants to see little girls acting like women.  Todlers in Tiaras, UGH & GRRRR! If I ever have children, i will make sure they know how to filter everything that comes into their consciousness.

[dramabitchespolitics]

@blacksncommercials They are slowly endoctrinating girls to the point where it is almost normal. I can't go to a store and find shots that even go mid thigh they are all booty shorts now. I babysat this one girl and she is eight and the children's book is talking about boyfriends. Another girl eleven says she's dating. They are growing up to fast and everyone seems to think it's okay.

[blacksncommercials]

@dramabitchespolitics  Wow, that young! You are not alone there, I'm with you, it’s not okay. Sadly too many adults are just as impressionable, emulating everything celebs do, it’s ridiculous.

[dramabitchespolitics]

They have suffered and they continue to suffer. I believe they need their own movement and to hop of the black black band wagon but isn't that what the feminists did. Gays suffer across the globe some places they get the death penalty they also were in concentration camps alongside the jews. I feel like the black community comes down harder on their gays especially the men. But people are going to believe what they want to believe.

[dramabitchespolitics]

I get what you are saying the part where I disagree with you is homosexuality and the classroom. Look at the rates of kids comitting suicide. I don't think it should be introduced in elementary but maybe middle school. It can be thrown into sex ed. Not supporting one way or the other but this is what it is. Homosexuality has been around for a lot longer than racism towards black people. We were just a visible minority they could hide. But they were burned at the stake killed tortured.

[blacksncommercials]

@dramabitchespolitics I hear what you're saying too, and I agree that is should be addressed at some point, but I don't really trust our current educational system to handle the task. If I had it my ways, schools would not touch the issue because its of a personal nature. I do think some sort of overall tolerence training is neccessary. I could not argue one way or another about which is older, but neither is going away anytime soon. Black people are a double minority afterall.

[dramabitchespolitics]

@blacksncommercials I think why black gays are angry is because they have it even worse. It is like this gender war stuff. Some women are angry because they get it from both ends too. If we could just unite and focus we could get a lot more accomplished.

[kristich78]

First of all Christianity and Islam are religions pushed on pagan cultures who revered the earth and women. Christianity is the imperialistic mix of Israeli dogma and Italian appropriation. Do some research. The Bible has been used to demean Blacks, Interracial marriage, WOMEN, ETC. Also check out the rest of Leviticus, where it talks about fornication, eating shellfish, and wearing clothes with mixed fabrics as abominations. We humans need to grow up and fight against divisive tyranny.

[kristich78]

@BannerwarUSA Sexual orientation as it pertains to cilvil liberties for LGBT people is extremely important, worldwide. LGBT people are senselessly attacked, imprisoned, raped, and murdered in many countries as a result of religious and social dogma. Look what's happening to lesbians in South Africa, gays in Uganda, the middle east, the west. You must educate yourself before you dismiss. BTW there was a time when civil rights for blacks was dismissed, oh wait, it's still happening.

[blacksncommercials]

@BannerwarUSA It had to be addressed. Although they are small, they have mastered the art of attaining and using political power to further their cause, all Americans should take note.

[EuphoricImpact]

I can understand your verbal opposition to the tactic of comparison of struggle between homosexuals and black people (to a certain degree). There are indeed similarities between the movements. The deluge of uneasiness, I mainly see, is the issue of the "quantity of suffering". The concentration, imo, should be one of inherent qualities. Color of skin is genetically determined. I would make the same argument for sexual orientation. Of course.. I am not addressing ones

[EuphoricImpact]

@EuphoricImpact (part 2) position towards experimentation. This would be misleading and would point to volition and therefore a selected life style. I know that religious doctrine (generally speaking) is a major influence for the black community. I am not here to combat an individual's path. People should have a right to believe as they wish. Outside of "quantity" the other major stumbling block appears to be belief systems when people are constructing arguments or premises for comparison.

[blacksncommercials]

@EuphoricImpact Yes, religion plays a huge part, "we love the lord", even when pastors like Eddie Long squander the church tithes on booty calls, we still follow. The hypocrisy sickens me! They completely ignore all the scriptures about how all sin is judges the same, and how not to judge in the first place.

[EuphoricImpact]

Thank you for making this video it is thought provoking. I have always been very leery of the "BCM". I enjoy the concept, and what appears to be their mission. My mistrust has surfaced due to the observation of heavy division. I have discerned this in age, sexual orientation, socio-economic class, religious preference or none preference and education levels. It would be much easier for the BCM to advance its political and educational agenda if the concept of live and let live

[EuphoricImpact]

@EuphoricImpact (part 2) was embraced. However, I have witnessed cultural bias, and lack of a cohesive working philosophy as being the key components to BCM (real world) ineffectual presence. I think the solution lies in the constructive criticism and application of its findings. Attacking ideologies (which are self defeating) that provide the conflict with its fuel is the quickest and most sufficient path to advancing.

[blacksncommercials]

@EuphoricImpact The BCM, I use the term movement loosely, is far from ideal in my opinion. I agree totally, the movement does not have a cohesive message/agenda/philosophy, and a deeper level of cooperation would be necessary to bring all the various groups under the same umbrella. We have so much more in common than different, that's the ground we ought to stand upon.

[blacksncommercials]

@EuphoricImpact I agree, the very last thing we need is to allow more division.

[nednelmam]

just sayin the most leud things & black women goo goo and laugh and compare notes like its just so normal.now when i have expressed myself & said that i would rather not hear about this stuff i am demonized and looked at like im so mean or I have searched my soul read researched and watched many vids on this subject trying to see if maybe i was wrong.but i still return to the same conclusion.the gay agenda is just one more shove towards the edge of a cliff to extention an annihilation.

[nednelmam]

this vid has received some of the best comments on this topic that i have ever read.....im glad to see that i am not the only one that has a real gut instinct to reject this behavior and accepting it does mean that i am for the destruction of the black family unit and strong men who know that to lay with another man is sick...I have had to remove myself from many a situation especially in the workplace when i hear gay men going on and on about how their azz got busted out and how big he was and

[MrHead1972]

This Maybe Off Topic. But I Go Both Ways With The Gay Thing. On 1 Hand The Sight & The Thought Of 2 Women Get'n It On Turns Me On. But On The Other Hand, The Thought Of 2 Men Takin Turns Smugling Each Others Salami Is Disgusting. LOL!

[blacksncommercials]

@MrHead1972 LOL

[JTRILEY1]

I JUST DONT LIKE ONE THING ABOUT GAY PEOPLE!LOL

YOU ARE NOT A BLACK MAN OR WOMAN SO STOP COMPARE US TO YOUR AGENDA'S!

YOU CAN STOP BEING GAY,BUT I CAN'T STOP BEING BLACK! OTHER THAN THAT

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GAY MEN CAUSE I GIVE A FUCK WHO YOU SEX,JUST AS LONG AS IT NOT ME!LOL

BUT IF TEN WOMEN WHO ARE GAY WANTS TO RAPE ME AND HAVE THERE WAY WITH ME I'M FINE WITH THAT...LOL I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF A LADY IS 99% GAY,THAT 1% CHANCE GIVE ME HOPE TO GET THAT EXCEPTION FROM HER.LOL

[flc2009]

I agree marriage is between men and women only, there are domestic partnerships and civil unions which are more adequate for same sex couples. I feel that the gblt community wants to be something that it will never be a man and woman.

[yorubablk3]

Q"Black, Conscious and Gay-What Is The Problem?" A.youngrawarrior, nutturnerisalive, intellegentblackmale, blackwomenarescum-

[blacksncommercials]

@yorubablk3 Very true!

[yorubablk3]

@blacksncommercials Thank u beloved.Just trying to cut 2 the chase.

[ifama]

GREAT VID SIS. I AGREE WITH ALL THREE POINTS YOUR EXPOUNDED ON.

[detjay313]

@BIGBKELtheGOD that's deep

[FinalJusticeMovement]

And another thing:

Homosexualism is, in essence, a WHITE SUPREMACIST /

FEM-SUPREMACIST ideology. The vast majority of the

movement are Caucasian FEMALES, and the first thing they

will do is attack people of color -- particularly Africans and

Afro-Latinos -- who refuse to accept their agenda or their ritual.

There is no benefit in homosexualism for anyone, and

ESPECIALLY not for African people. Why participate in a

prom where you KNOW the target of the stage prank is you?

--The Final Justice

[SuperBlackWoman1]

@FinalJusticeMovement -Homosexuality is not a choice for people who are born transgender your to ignorant to understand science you probably don't even know what transgender means.Dumbass ignorant niggas like you are reason why there's so much hatred and bigotry against gays in the black community.

[tarchea]

@SuperBlackWoman1 by far u are the ignorant one. it is documented in history how homosexuality got to take place in black communities, THRU RAPE AND MOLESTATION!!! U WILL NOT TELL ME AND YES I AM VERY UPSET WIT THE LIES OF HOMOSEXUALS TO JUSTIFY PERVERSION AND MENTAL SICKNESS. AND TRUST ME I AM NOT SOMEONE WHO DOESNT KNO THAT LIFESTYLE IN AND OUT SO DO NOT COME TO ME CLAIMIN I DO NOT KNO AND I HAVE NO IDEA. I DEALT WITH THAT MENTAL ILLNESS FOR OVER 10 YEARS.

[SuperBlackWoman1]

@tarchea -People who are born Transgender for them homosexuality is not a choice Science has proven this for you to attack these people is wrong and hateful but for straight women like you who chose to be with women after being raped only that's a choice Huge Difference between the 2.The problem i have with your comments is when you tried to compare Homosexuality to Pedophiles there's no comparison if a 30 year old men sleeps with a 12 year old girl that's a pedophile that's NOT being Gay.

[firstladyshine]

@SuperBlackWoman1 Actually, pedophilia & homosexuality are triggered by the same parts of the brain as well as the same components in dna. They both develop after childhood trauma, or when a pregnant mother is exposed to certain chemicals or hormones. Science has proven this. Thats why it was always considered a mental disorder or a chem imbalance until the gay communities challenged these facts in the 70's. Fact is that you can be born gay, but its not natural. It happens when things go wrong.

[yorubablk3]

@firstladyshine teach,family!

[tarchea]

@SuperBlackWoman1 HOW THE FUCK THEY BORN TRANSGENDER WHEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE HORMONES AND SHIT? STOP DESTROYING OUR CHILDREN AND CULTURE! HOMOSEXUALITY IS A EUROPEAN/ GREEK TRADITION AND AMERICA IS MODELED AFTER GREECE. SO OF COURSE ITS GONA BE MADE A NORMAL PART OF THEIR CULTURE. SHOW ME HOMOSEXUALITY AMONGST BLACK AFRICAN PEOPLE THEN WE CAN TALK. IM WAITIN CUZ I BEEN THERE TRYING TO FIND IT TO JUSTIFY MY SICKNESS. CANT FIND IT IN ANCIENT TIME AFRICANS. TRY ME.

[yorubablk3]

@FinalJusticeMovementU wrote " Homosexualism is, in essence, a WHITE SUPREMACIST /

FEM-SUPREMACIST ideology. The vast majority of the

movement are Caucasian FEMALES, and the first thing they

will do is attack people of color -- particularly Africans and

Afro-Latinos -- who refuse to accept their agenda or their ritual" I have question for you.Are you a white male?And if so what is your interest in this question and why?

[FinalJusticeMovement]

What I am, Yoruba, is an ENTITY -- an entity who stands up for

TRUE gender equality for man and women and calls out

injustice for what it is. I am a MALE entity, first, foremost, and forever.

My interest in this question is a very concerted and concerned one.

The fact of the matter is that Africans suffer THE WORST from the

Gender War, and as we in 2011 continue to count down toward total

oblivion, it's about high time that they WAKE UP from their trance

before it's far too late!

--FJ

[yorubablk3]

@FinalJusticeMovement Ok,so the ANSWER to my question "ARE YOU A WHITE MALE"? Is YES.Correct?

[yorubablk3]

@FinalJusticeMovement And how do you feel about your 'whiteness' as a white male being,the son,the male embodiment ,of a procreative act between your white male/female parents?How do you interpret your white male legacy in light of a discussion of "Black, Conscious and Gay-What Is The Problem?"

[tarchea]

@FinalJusticeMovement agreed fam!! AFRICANS NEED TO LEARN THAT IT IS AN ATTACK ON US!!! IT IS SET UP FOR POPULATION CONTROL!SMH. IT ALSO BREEDS FROM PEDOPHILIA SO SUPPORT OF HOMOSEXUALITY IS SUPPORT OF PEDOPHILES!

[SuperBlackWoman1]

@tarchea -Being Gay has nothing to do with being a pedophile dumb ignorant niggas like you are the reason why there's so much hatred and bigotry against Gays in the black community.Being a homosexual is not a choice if your born Transgender but your probably to ignorant to understand what Transgender means.

[tarchea]

@SuperBlackWoman1 I AM AN EX HOMO. U WILL NOT TELL ME OR LIE TO ME. AND YES I AM HELL BENT ON EXPOSING THE LIES AND DECEIT U BASTARDS PERPETUATE ON OUR COMMUNITES TO FORCE THEM INTO FEAR OF SPEAKING OUT AGAINST YOUR MENTAL ASS. I BEEN THERE DOIN THE SAME SHIT AS U UNTIL I GOT HEALED. U WILL BE SHOWN NO MERCY FOR UR LIES AND THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK TRADITIONS. GREEKS ARE UR FATHERS AND MOTHERS SO U SHOUDNT EVEN CALL URSELF BLACK.

[yorubablk3]

@tarchea Peace,beloved.Just keep in mind that "FinalJusticeMovement " is a white man using deception and his idea of 'final justice' may not be exactly what you might want or except.

[firstladyshine]

@FinalJusticeMovement Good points.

[FinalJusticeMovement]

Likewise with you, Lady Shine.

--FJ

[BIGBKELtheGOD]

I cut this long time friend off because she told me that Gay was the New Black!

And although I am not one of these guys who openly runs his mouth back and forth about homosexuals I do not feel sorry for the ones who are attacked and eventually killed.

The reason I do not is because I feel that it is the Nature of a Man to Guard his sexuality as he would his life!

Faggots normally push up on Brothers that they know are straight.

[SuperBlackWoman1]

@BIGBKELtheGOD -Being Gay has nothing to do with being a pedophile your a complete fucking idiot if 2 grown adult men are being with each other that doesn't equal to being a pedophile.Dumbass ignorant niggas like you are the reason why there's so much hatred and bigotry against Gays.Your to ignorant to understand science being homosexual is not a choice if your born Transgender but your probably to ignorant to understand what Transgender means.

[SuperBlackWoman1]

@BIGBKELtheGOD -You need mental help for dumbasses Science has been proven that homosexuality is not a choice if a person is born Transgender do you even know Transgender means.And only a complete idiot who doesn't understand Science would compare Homosexuality to Pedophiles there's no comparison if a 30 year old men sleeps with a 12 year girl that's a Pedophile that's NOT being Gay you fucking idiot HUGE DIFFERENCE.

YOUR THE TYPICAL DUMBASS IGNORANT NIGGA.

[tarchea]

@SuperBlackWoman1 AND UR A DUMB ASS. WTF U CALL A PEDO THAT SLEEP WIT LIL BOYS FOOL? IT IS A KNOWN FACT AND I HAVE RESEARCH COUNTLESS INFO THAT MAJORITY PEDOS SELF IDENTIFIED AS EITHA BI OR QUEER. AND THEY HEAVILY OUTWEIGHED HETERO PEDOS SO U NEED TO STFU AND RESEARCH B4 OPENING UR FOOLISH MOUTH TO SPEW UR EMOTIONS. JUSTIFYIN A DICK IN UR TRASH COMPACTOR IS VERY SMART. SMFH. UR AN ABOMINATION WIT UR LIES AND I AM GLAD TO HAVE HEALED AND GOTTEN AWAY FROM U SICK FUCKS. SHE WILL HAV NO MERCY ON U

[tarchea]

@BIGBKELtheGOD AGREED BROTHA. THIS IDIOT IS A FUCKIN LIAR. BROTHA I HAVE BEEN THERE WITH HOMOSEXUALITY NOT AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT BECUZ I AM ONE WHO LEARNED MY AFRICAN BLACK SELF AND GOT HEALED OF IT. I WUZ THERE 10 YEARS AND YES MY ROOT CAUSE AS ALL OF MY HOMO FRIENDS, M OR F, WAS MOLESTATION AND RAPE AS A YOUTH. SOME HAD BEEN RAPED AS EARLY AS 5 AND SOMETIMES U CANT EVEN REMEMBER CAUSE IT HAPPENS SO EARLY. PEDOS KNOW THIS. THEY HAVE NO SECRET THAT HOMOS ARE THEIR CHILDREN.PEDO STARTED GAY RIGHT

[SuperBlackWoman1]

@tarchea -Your ignorance is full of hatred and you don't even understand what your talking about there's always been homosexuality everywhere it didn't come from Greece.You just sound ignorant this is same ignorance that causes people to hate Gays your a hate mongering bigot i only hope you change your ways and start being open minded stop being hateful.You can respectful disagree with Gays without hating them but you don't understand what respectful disagreement means.

[tarchea]

@SuperBlackWoman1 u kno what, u r not worthy of my time as i see u come not with facts but emotion. i have done the research and been there firsthand. u will not lie to me or make me bow down when i know the truth. u can call me whatever u like but u started the insults n idgaf to stroke no queers ego when i kno it is a perversion and a mental illness. do we stroke the mind of serial killers, zoophiles and othas?? gtfoh. u r nowhere near my level. u r stuck in slavery. next!

[DominicanPoison1]

@tarchea -Your comparing Gays to Serial killers you just sound stupid.

[KimmyTaylor100]

@BIGBKELtheGOD -Your really a idiot your comparing gays to pedophiles this is just stupid.

[UncleRuckus11]

YOU BLACK LIBERAL BITCH

All Gays are a abomination and any person that defends the Gay life style is a disgrace this Gay loving mentality is whats destroying black people.Im a Black Republican who hates Gays more than anything Liberal Blacks like you are ignorant fools for accepting Gays into black neighborhoods.

[tomken8dy]

We are all the same race. HUMAN. If we all don't learn to put our differences aside and work together we will all become extinct. I admit I have to turn away when I see two men kiss but as long as they're not trying to force a kiss on me I say, let them do as they please. There seems to be a campaign to break down EVERY value and tradition in our country. Atheism over religion, "multisexuality" over traditional male/female roles, cruelty over empathy, and outright evil over FAIR PLAY.

[MeekInWisdom]

Sad to say that there is no justice for homosexuals. Their only option is to turn from their lifestyle and be whole. It's an illness more than anything and there is no accepting this type of behavior. We were not born this way, it is unnatural. Just like murder... We cannot go around murdering other people because we were born that way. This is a very complex issue and has been pushed on people for a long time. Apparently folks have given in to the demonic force.

[blacksncommercials]

@MeekInWisdom Thank you for sharing your point of view, respect & love.

[tru2me35]

@blacksncommercials I want to thank you for responding to the original vid that I posted. I am sending you a thank you video with clarity. I much appreciate the very eloquent way in which you handled this topic. It is very complex-and in some ways that is an understatement. While I understand that homosexuality is not something that you may be comfortable with, you were nothing but respectful. This along with the comments and other vid response offered some unique perspectives. Thanks again.

[moormagic1]

I don't have a problem with the gay community, I have a problem with the gay agenda that is pushed in our children's face via the music videos.

[blacksncommercials]

@moormagic1 I feel the exact same way.

[blacksncommercials]

@caramel100percent To say this is complex is an understatement.

[firstladyshine]

Well, I'm against the gay lifestyle, though I treat & respect all people the same. I think its being pushed on much more than just our youth on extreme levels. I don't think its necessary for all of the parades & media attention, because all that is just causing people to reactively try to keep their truly straight children from the unnecessary confusions about sexuality. We have REAL problems in our community. Gay people should just keep their sexuality to themselves. What's wrong wit that?

[blacksncommercials]

@firstladyshine I can't fault you one bit. I may never be comfortable seeing two men together, but Its not my life to live. The media is pushing this agenda, and our children are being caught in the crossfire, its not right. It often only causes people to become more intolerent.

[blacksncommercials]

@firstladyshine and thank you for being honest, the truth shall set us all free.

[yorubablk3]

@blacksncommercials co-sign

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine What fuck is "the gay lifestyle"? Are you stupid or something? Homosexuals are PEOPLE. It's not a cult. It's not a dietary choice. It's not an artistic philosophy. Why should they be forced to keep their sexuality, which is organic to them, to "themselves"? Everyone else gets to live overtly. Heterosexual men & women have PDAs. Heterosexual men & women write about their sentiments in love songs. So why do gay people have to play it close to their vests? Human rights are for ALL.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate Your sexuality is a preference. Race isnt. Some ppl feel they were born to sex babies or animals & will risk everything to do it because "they were born that way". This is comparable to being straight or gay (sexual preferences). Not the same as race or gender. Theres no "gay" factor when u apply for a bank loan. But your race, gender & other demographic factors determine elegibility. Acceptance, no. I'm for ying/yang & procreation. Tolerance, always. Interact peacefully with all.

[DominicanPoison1]

@firstladyshine -You really don't understand Science homosexuality is not a choice for people who are born Trans Gender more black people need to start being open minded.This is reason why there's so many on the D.L Black Men who are hiding their sexuality because their afraid to come out.Its really sad how people can hate a group of people that they don't even know or understand because of pure ignorance.Gays have been killed and murdered because of this ignorance.

[tarchea]

@DominicanPoison1 NO.ITS SO MANY DL NIGGAS CUZ THEY ASSES GETTIN RAPED IN PRISON, JUVENILE DETENTIONS AND ALSO IN THE STREETS!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT COME HERE WITH THE LIES PLEASE. FACTS ONLY. AND I HAVE THEM SO COME AGAIN.

[KimmyTaylor100]

@tarchea -I can see you have NO form of education you said Homosexuality comes from Greece your a complete fucking idiot you hate what you don't even know.Then you keep bringing race into this when race has nothing to do with being Gay there's just as many Gay Whites as there is Gay Blacks you really need to educate yourself and stop being so ignorant.

[DominicanPoison1]

@tarchea -There's plenty of D.L Men and Women of all races who have NEVER been to prison Rock Hudson was a white actor in the 1960's he was on the Down Low his hole life he kept his Gay life a secret.So your hole argument that only men who have been to prison are D.L is not true.Hateful people like you are the reason why so many gays are afraid to come out and be honest about their sexuality.

[firstladyshine]

@DominicanPoison1 Its' still a preference. And it's not natures intent. There are people born with extra limbs, which is also not natures intent. These people will be a part of society, but probably will not be able to breed since no one will want this mutation to carry on into another generation. Everyone will always have the choice to persue homosexual relations, but it is not necessary that they do. The natural order of things need to be solidified or our existance will become endangered.

[DominicanPoison1]

@firstladyshine -You must be a Religious Extremists Nut being Transgender is not preference my Brother was born Transgender he doesn't have a choice this is the way he was born.Millions of people across the world are born Transgender but Hateful Religious Nuts like you won't accept them as being human beings that just want to live their lives in peace without being attacked and put down.

[firstladyshine]

@DominicanPoison1 I am not into any religion. Sorry. I understand your brother was born transgender, and he is a human being. I know. I would never attack him or treat him like a creature. But you have to admit that transgender is a mutation. It is not the natural order of things. He should be treated the same as everyone else, but "gay" does not have to be the norm for all people. It does not have to be accepted as normal, because it is not. It doesn't help anything. We have real problems.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine Mushrooms instead of anchovies is a preference you idiot. A person's sexuality is intrinsic. Any other analogy you try to present means you don't have the wisdom to see people as they are; not as you want to perceive them. You claim to be for yin/yang but you really don't know that means. Who gives a shit about procreation? Are so arrogant to think that you matter?

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate Yea, pizza toppings are a preference & we all choose what we eat. We also choose who we have relationships with. Yes, I do know what ying/yang means. I have no questions about that. What kind of argument are you trying to make saying that people don't care about procreation? Procreation has always mattered, ever since the emergence of matter into physical existance. It brang us all here.

And yes, I am therefore I matter. Do you matter?... If so, is it due to your arrogance?

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine Yes. We do choose whoM we share or time with. But we can't change our wiring. If a person is gay, you better believe it's not by choice. Evidently you DON'T know what yin/yang means if you'd simplify it the way you did. As for procreation, it's extremely stupid to think it's anything more than a biological function. If it's a personal goal, they got adoption, turkey basters, egg donors etc. Your concepts are primitive.

The "I am therefore I matter" is dull. You don't matter.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate Dull? You don't understand ying/yang. Simple is how things were created. Complications & confusion are on the "devils" way. turkey baster? Wtf? I think you are hearing what you want to hear. I did not say they could change their wiring. I said its better kept to themselves and not forced upon the world. I understand the wiring part down to a science, honey. Popular culture discourages procreation & usually deteriorates the fabric of righteousness. I AM is the height of thought.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine Yes. Dull. And I understand the yin/yang principle. I know that it's the dichotomy that you're implying. It's about balance. There IS no devil. Also, there ARE turkey basters. If a gay woman wants to procreate, she gets artificially inseminated. I guess you're duller than I'd estimated.

As has been stated, a person doesn't choose to be gay any more than a person chooses to be heterosexual. Spare me your nonsense about pop culture discouraging procreation. All we see on TV is sex

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate I know theres no devil, hence the "quotations". I know there are turkey basters FOR TURKEY & I know of insemination. Mentioning this was not at all necessary. Gay couples cannot biologically have chidren together regardless of the level of scientific technology. It was never meant to be that way & it still can't be. You should focus on your own 'dullness'. Agreed, MOST people don't choose to be gay. Yes, all you see on tv is SEX, but children are looked at as optional (abortable).

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine IF you knew about artificial insemination, you'd understand how your postulate that gay people can't procreate is dead wrong. All people need, if they want to have kids, is to adopt, find a surrogate, etc. Your notion of what was "meant" is stupid as hell. It also shows that you understand the difference between "purpose" & "biological function". And yes, children ARE optional. You can have 'em (or not have 'em) if you so please.

You're gonna whine about abortion? Grow up.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate The very meaning of procreate is organic & has nothing to do with artaficial insemination or adoption. We are living in a time where science has reached a level where people could even be cloned. If this technology were not available, nature would not support this. IT WAS NOT MADE THAT WAY. And children are optional, yes. What I meant is that it is looked at as a negative thing that takes away our freedom & happiness. "I ain't havin no kids" is popular culture today.

[upabittoolate]

You sound like an idiot who doesn't know the meaning of "organic". It means "deriving from living things". You don't get to be the arbiter of how people have their babies. Your argument lacks a very basic principle: we humans are driven by choice not heredity. You keep talking about what wasn't "made". That's horseshit because we're products of EVOLUTION. You're talking about "natural support" as if you've actually studied something. Sex changes DO occur in nature. Google "clownfish"

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate OMFGoodness. Are u serious? Okay clownfish... Also, parthenogenisis exists, but it is not our reality as human beings in 2011. Why don't you prove evolution? Evolution theorists never even proved that. It is not even competely supported by scientific evidence.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine Since sex changes occur in nature, you gotta concede it. Also, evolution has been proven time and again. You're just not sharp enough to wrap your mind around the evidence. It's COMPLETELY supported by evidence. Believe what you want. But know that it's the truth.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate Evolution has not been proven. Genetic mutations have & interbreeding of different species has been proven. The strong survive has been proven. You don't know what you're talking about. You just keep spittin out POPULAR bullshit.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine And spare me the nonsense about it being "popular" to not have kids. 4 MILLION babies are born in the US every year. Hell, we're already overpopulated as it is. You want to bring MORE poor people into the world? Just how dull ARE you?

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate 7 billion people can fit in the state of Texas with about 1060 square feet of arm space around each individual. The notion of overpopulation comes from the control freaks who control this world who don't know how to control more than 7 or 8 billion people at a time.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine Sure, you can fit 7B people in TX. But that's not a realistic way to LIVE. Overpopulation isn't a notion cooked up by control freaks. It's a fact recognized by people who understand that, however abundant vital resources may seem, the stuff we need for survival is in finite supply.

"... who don't know how to control more than 7 or 8 B people at a time." You're either batshit or you're a buffoon. Either way, you're not to be taken seriously. Deuces.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate You have done nothing but call me names and put words in my mouth. Of course we would not all live in Texas. Are you stupid, or just trying to ignore the FACT that there is enough room for us, food, wildlife, oceans, more & more children, etc. Bad science & an uninformed public has us in the state we are in as human beings. Also, wasting our time with shit like marriage or civil unions & other bullshit topics that take us from our real problems.

[firstladyshine]

Oh, & I'll whine about abortion at another time. It is a disgusting thing that we have gotten comfortable with. The reality that we are killing people just because it has been disguised by popular terms like "pro-choice", which says that we should be as promiscuous as we'd like & never answer to consequences.

[upabittoolate]

You don't get to whine about abortion at all. It's a hard enough decision for a woman to make without people like you trying to pile on. It's not killing a person. It's stopping a pregnancy. If I take a gun & shoot someone in the head, that's (likely) killing him. If a woman stops an unwanted pregnancy while the zygote, blastula or embryo isn't viable to live outside the womb, that's abortion.

You're talking about promiscuity as if you know what actually happens in each case. Moron.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate I am a woman... and due to the POPULARITY of the subject, I have taken the time to consider what are the positives of abortion. A woman could be raped, even worse, by a family member. The pregnancy could be tubal. I am no fool. But the majority of abortions are to avoid responsibility. Period. Shooting someone in the head would be terrible murder, I know. But killing a person trying to come into being should not be looked at as simple, or unworthy of complaint.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine Also, "I AM" is NOT the height of thought. It's merely the height of your own, personal consciousness. You're only relevant to yourself & perhaps some family members. But in the grand scheme, you ain't shit. You're just 1 in 7 billion.

"... the fabric of righteousness." That doesn't MEAN anything. You're a buffoon.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate I AM is the height of thought in the realm where there is no 7 billion, only 1. Also, in this realm, all things are looked at from the perception of & in relation to the individual. I can't see from your eyes & vice versa. The fabric of righteousness is my own termonology for the laws that govern existance, which does not include gay sex, etc. That is just bullshit/space junk, like 31 flavors of ice cream. We all have our favorite, but what is it's importance in the grand scheme?

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine "I AM" is NOT the apex. It's merely your own height. And like I said, you're just 1 in 7 billion. You're not that special. Fuck "righteousness". It's an empty platitude. It's even more ridiculous that you're using it on youtube after having made rather uninformed comments about sexuality & yin/yang balance. Perhaps you should actually read something instead of coming off like a half-baked moron who just read some bullshit written by Shadrock. At best, you're SELF-righteous.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate Your level of understanding is shallow. I have not made any uninformed comments about sexuality. I have actually spent much time reading about the science & psychology of what it means to be gay. What, in your opinion, is greater than I AM? What do you have control over outside of yourself? I have read enough books to build you a house with, but my thoughts are my own.

[upabittoolate]

@firstladyshine I do just fine with my level of understanding. The only reason you have a problem wiht it is because you think someone elected you to be the authority on virtue. You also haven't read a goddamned thing about homosexuality if you think people aren't born that way. Show me some evidence from the Journal of American Sexuality that supports your idiotic outlook.

Anything else you're saying is half-baked rhetoric. Read an actual BOOK my sister.

[firstladyshine]

@upabittoolate Go ahead and only do "fine". I am no ones authority except for myself and my child for now. I did say that some people are born that way. Again, you are hearing what you want to hear. Science has shown how these things occur, and they only occur when something does not go right. I don't need your sex journal, which is probably where you get your basisless rhetoric.

[EbonyCherryable]

The reason why there's so much hatred at gays in the black community is because of the black church religious beliefs but i think a lot of religious people who hate gays are hypocrites because the bible says don't judge anyone or hate anyone.But a lot of these Fake Christians will cherry pick things in the bible to attack gays on and then they defend adultery and womanizers and deadbeat fathers.

[blacksncommercials]

@EbonyCherryable Judge not lest ye be judged, great point.

[nednelmam]

great vid..im just against the blatant push to effeminate our young boyz...i do think that the comparison by gays to the black struggle is an insult.i try to live and let live but gays are trying to force the lifestyle and practices down peoples throats....just do your thing without trying so hard to go against the grain...do i see a place for homosexuals in the black conscience community???NO 2 be honest...but i would and have learned to just keep my mouth shut cause im not into hurting anyone

[blacksncommercials]

@nednelmam Thank you. I agree with you on the influence over children, they should be left out of it especially in schools. I respect your honesty.

[TheHappyHooka]

@blacksncommercials Hey, just to correct some things that you said, the gays HAVE been through hell. Even now, in MANY places around the world, even in South America, you can be condemned to death just for being gay. Just like femicide and the attacks on womyn, anti-gay hatred is a universal thing. Most of our struggles as blacks is largely confined here in America and certain parts of the western world. Also, another point I want to note is that, interestingly, you speak of being pro-black

[blacksncommercials]

@TheHappyHooka That's a good point. I have heard about those injustices, it sickens me. Although blacks have been oppressed outside the western world, and denied immigration to many parts, its hard for me to argue who's had it worst abroad. Africa was raped, and the muslims still have control in many countries. Anywhere the western influence spread, oppression of the black man followed. And gays have certainly been oppressed right along.

[blacksncommercials]

@TheHappyHooka I care deeply for the black community, not sure which category I would fall into, but seeing political and social change is a focus of mine. I've actually been called too inclusive to be pro-black, so I try to avoid living up to the labels.

[TheHappyHooka]

@blacksncommercials Nothing wring at all for being pro-black. So am I. Again, GREAT VIDEO!

[TheHappyHooka]

@blacksncommercials yet you conform to white male misogynist patriarchal mandates of gender roles, the same ones they still use now to justify mistreating black womyn by saying that it is okay for men to be sexual but womyn who are are not to be respected, etc, the whole slut shaming thing as well as submitting to his religion, xtinaity, the same religion and book used to enslave us. Got to think about this!

[blacksncommercials]

@TheHappyHooka I hear what you mean, and to an extent I do accept the gender roles set forth, but if/when I start a family I do not plan to conform to the rigid confines of that belief set. The double standard between the sexes is sickening to me, and I would instruct my children to refrain from sex until they're mature enough to handle any of the possible consequences, despite their sex.

[TheHappyHooka]

@nednelmam Effeminate? Baby, you have to be strong to carry a baby for 9 months, what's so weak about that? I am so tired of AA culture condemning and denying the feminine power and energy that this planet needs to return to to undo these influences. Sweetie, do you know our original black, brown, yellow, and red societies were matriarchal with Japan being the last matriarchy to fall after the demise of the Nimiko dynasty? Now, we are submitting to the WHITE MALE PATRIARCHAL INFLUENCE which

[TheHappyHooka]

@nednelmam you are doing now.

[SwoopsFilms]

I don't have anything against Gays i just think they should be honest about sexuality and stop lying to their partners about their sexuality these Down Low Gays who are married to women while having affairs with men is wrong.This is one of reasons why so many black women are being infected with Aids.

[blacksncommercials]

@SwoopsFilms Very true, and sad. I was commenting to someone else about that, and homophobia has a lot to do with it, its a vicious cycle.

[TheHappyHooka]

@SwoopsFilms Part of the reason why they hide it is because of the open rejection by black society, overly misogynist black culture that has a reversal of morals/ beliefs that black men are to be thugs in order to be men and rape and beat up womyn while womyn are being trained and conditioned to accept foul treatment from men, esp. our men and that is wrong. Partly why us black womyn get disrespected is bc we don't demand it and our men commit it.

[TheHappyHooka]

@SwoopsFilms It's like my mama once said, you fuck up your house, why should anyone respect it? Alot of this is brought by white man brainwashing as well as our unhealthy submission to his religion, his uncle tomming xtianity, etc. We need to see it and revert to the matriarchal influence and energy we formerly used to have in our people of color societies.

[SwoopsFilms]

@TheHappyHooka -I agree with you but i think all these man made religions is a form of mental enslavement not just Christianity i just wish more people as a hole need to start being more open minded to different people's views.

[JiaIreland]

You are right about kids being sexualized at extreme young ages, it's out of control I mean damn they wanna know why so many young females are pregnant at younger and younger ages. I mean damn we have our little girls wearing bikini's at three years old. Also GAY IS NEVER EVER GOING TO BE THE NEW BLACK, I agree that is extremely disrespectful and rude.

[JiaIreland]

Also I believe that some GAYS make their problems worse, you have these angry gays like Rosie O'Donald and Lady Gaga who go around attacking straights for no reason, they are doing the exact same tactic that crazy straights do when they gay bash. Two wrongs don't make a right!!! Also this trying to force ppl to accept homosexuality and heterosexuality isn't going to make ppl be more approving of gays (if they are straight) or make ppl approving of straights (if they are gay).

[blacksncommercials]

@JiaIreland I totally agree, I wanted to go there more on Gaga and the agenda to break down the traditional gender roles. Some people are bitter, and want payback. Tolerence goes both ways.

[JiaIreland]

@blacksncommercials right!!!! shoot they can't go around being rude and hating on straights if they want justice and equal rights. That;s all I'm saying. And these out of control bible pushing straights can't be preaching love and tolerance yet go around condemning gays.

[JiaIreland]

I agree, ppl shouldn't go around gay bashing and being ignorant because ppl are gay or lesbian. But at the same time ppl DON'T have to like you or agree with you that is just the way it is. Just like how you have racist Whites who continue who don't like blacks and other minority oh well. We don't have to like the gays, but you should RESPECT people that's my whole take on it. I personally don't agree with the whole homosexual behavior, but I don't go around being rude to gays/lesbians.

[Auntkekebaby]

Our home is earth. I want peace. If you don't agree with it, mind your damn business. Gay pp are not causing you problems. I love my gay family members and I'm not trying to hear the ignorance. Kill the word conscious because the unconscious have stolen it.

[Auntkekebaby]

I was about to do a video on this. I'm tired of homophobic pp friending me. They have nothing to do with the problems of ANYBODY! My only issue is them DL folks. We must understand that with this homophobic climate, we can not expect pp to be themselves. If you really want to improve the DL problem, homophobia is NOT the answer. I think, if youre so transfixed on what gay pp are doing, it's because you're gay. SORRY!! Eddie Long, Ted Haggard, etc.

[blacksncommercials]

@Auntkekebaby Talk about it, Homophobia is the root of why so many deny who they are and ofter hurt others/themselves in the process. I've really not seen many of the videos Tru was talking about, but I'm sure the hatred machine has gone there more than a few times.

[SuperBlackWoman1]

I think more conscious black people need to start being more open minded hating someone for being Gay is no different then hating someone for their race all bigotry is the same in my opinion.But some people are to ignorant to realize this there's 2 different types of conscious people Non-Religious Conscious people like me are more open minded to different people's beliefs.But some Religious Hateful People hate anyone that doesn't follow their religious beliefs.

[blacksncommercials]

@SuperBlackWoman1 We are a diverse community indeed.

[keshawn888]

@SuperBlackWoman1

exactly

[spainishgirl]

@blackcommericals

i know you are not judging...SIS....I do agree with you that.. we must protect our children and grandchildren's minds ( i am a grandmotheR ) and innocence. THE SLOGAN ' gay is the new black " never set right with me because it's like using our foreparent's struggle to give us a better life.....i know that's not right. you are right to bring these concerns up. i applaud, SIS.

[spainishgirl]

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHOOSE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO LIVE AND THAT'S THEIR CHOICE... WHETHER ANOTHER PERSON DOES AGREE WITH IT'S OR NOT. IT'S JUST LIFE. PERIOD.

[blacksncommercials]

@spainishgirl True, and that's why I try not to judge.