I can understand. I'm a bleeding-heart liberal atheist; my best friend is a conservative Christian. If he were running for office, I couldn't support his platform, but would still be glad for him if he won.
@TheFrankFactor I gotta agree. I see strength in numbers.... libertarianism sounds to me like we need to divide to be better conquered by the more powerful.... so we can have big banks and corporations like the gas companies pillaging our country and ruining the water bed trample all over us.
I just don't see the benifit in the libertarian ideals.
Sounds like you don't really know what Libertarian ideals are..
Incidentally, I'm a Libertarian Socialist so I understand Libertarian ideals pretty damn well. But 'Libertarian ideals' as a blanket statement, really descredits itself. You see..GeoLibertarian and Anarchistic ideals are not the same, much like Libertarian Conservatism and Left-Libertarianism don't have the same ideals. I really have difficulty believing you've ever studied Libertarianism..
@RiotChamp You realize the video tells you how long it is ahead of time, and there's a convenient little red bar at the bottom that lets you skip to whichever point you wish, right?
You should have talked to Al more. You cannot debate Libertarism in public, because its dated! It no longer applies to a complex society of 300 million people. Robber barons got their money by "Crony Capitalism"...not the free market. Their was once some area's of "free market" capitalism....but that has long been scooped up by the original robber barons! Wall Mart, Nixon, China etc etc....shows conclusively that "free market capitalism" is nearly non existent. Crony capitalism is in fact ruling
I also have a friend who is a Democrat that was involved in some campaigning a while back. He never asked me for any money but I do think that he knew that if he had asked me, I wouldn't have given him any. Considering he knows that I'm a Libertarian , I doubt it was ever an issue for him. I wish any friend well for supporting what they believe in but I can't put aside my own personal beliefs based on my relationship with them. I would hope that most people would feel the same way.
Franken won because hundreds of illegal votes were cast by felons, several boxes of ballots were "found" after the first count, and many Franken-friendly districts counted more votes cast than there were registered voters.
And yet, people still whine about Bush stealing Florida in 2000 for no other reason than wishful thinking.
I like what Penn does for rational thinking, but I can't believe that he thinks that because Franken is a Democrat he will vote, by necessity, for big Government. There are only two parties to choose from where you have a chance to be elected for office. Penn has generalized Franken's intentions. Shame on you, Penn. You know better.
THis was a really really weak response. Penn on his show bullshit is able to use reasoned arguments. "As a libertarain" he supports his view no matter what and therefore he cannot debate. At best he can say he is happy for AL but he cannot explain WHY Franken believes what he does believe. If its a matter of conflicting values Penn should explain WHY FRanken is wrong. If he can't defend libertarianism as right then he is really no better than a religous person who depends on faith
@JeniusRob Pretty much. The only thing people should really support no matter what are reality and facts, not idealogies that get kicked to the curb when human nature arrives.
Nice piece, Penn. You shared a nice sentiment and honesty as well. Good of you to acknowledge Franken's honesty and kindness even while stating your direct opposition to his political views.
Thanks for doing it out of character. Love the brashness in the act, but it's nice to see a real mensch in there.
I read that FDR had an even bigger majority than Obama. FDR had to compromise & kiss republican ass to get what he wanted even with a bigger majority. Lincoln was 6'4" & could chop down 3 cherry trees in 1 swing. I gave a few dollars to Franken along with a few million others and he was only able to beat the incumbent by 324 votes. Anyone who thinks "Dems & Reps are all the same party" really has to think whether a mocrat would ever apologize to a BP CEO after an oil spill. I think not
Penn's right. Way too many people vote because they like the candidate on a personal level rather than their ideas and political/economic/social agendas. If you had brain cancer, would you ask for the 'funniest,' or 'coolest' doctor you could find despite the fact that he really favors the use of snake oils and Advil to cure brain diseases? Even if he was a personal friend, you might have to bite the bullet and just say thanks but no thanks. Franken is as qualified as by 3 year old!
You're a Libertarian who believes if a corporation feels it's within there business interest to deny services to Black people, than it should have that right. You're a Libertarian who believes government shouldn't dictate to Corporate America what it should or should not be doing, and so we get the oil spill in the Gulf, KBR workers systematically raping women in Iraq, coal mining disasters, Blackwater murders. You've got to love Libertarians!!!
Obviously its within the business' right. It is private property. You don't let just anyone into your house, do you? And who would go to a restaurant that had a "no blacks" sign anyways? And what kind of corporation would for some reason refuse to serve an ethnic minority? Even Noam Chomsky said this would NOT happen since corporations want one thing-- money.
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Why the reflexive refusal to not vote for Democrats because you're a Libertarian? Plenty of Democrats are the superior choice compared to their Republican counterparts, from a perspective of individual liberty.
@Blockygraphics and the building of it was funded by the federal goverment as well as many other services. making these services socialist issues economics can be tricky i guess theirs now way to be completly one way or the other
good point.. however las vegas is in the middle of a desert and they do not have their own water supply so everytime they flush the toilet or make a pot of coffee or wash a dish or take a simple drink of water they are enjoying the fruits of someone elses labor and wages in taxes. kaynesiam economics built their water supply system and most of the west coast
All of civilized society consists of trade-offs. The key question is what type of government activity results in more ACTUAL freedom for americans. The GOP like to sell you theories and then look the other way when their theories turn out to be worthless.
I agree with Penn in principle, that Libertarianism is the highest ideal, but i think that in practice it results in less liberty. This is because the void left by government results in domination by ruling elites or even by the poor. For instance, in Haiti, there is no forest because the poor chop it down for wood. Hence economic liberty and opportunity are limited. Monopolies also hurt freedom. HMO's hurt it too, because you cant start a new business and risk losing health insurance..
Its a careful balance. That is what I think. Its nice to have the "elites" and the government at their throats but its hard to keep them both like that for all of eternity.
I would say that if Haitians need wood that badly, it's probably going to good use. I don't know if they're abusing the forest, all I know is if you're cold or you want cooked food, it's not abuse to take what you want.
just the fact that Al is honest and fighting for what he believes in puts him above most US senators. Ideology isn't the problem with congress, it's the fact that most senators are working for the lobbyists instead of the people. I would support any senator who I knew was honest, regardless of his/her ideology.
Libertarians are good! I vote "3rd Party" every opportunity I have!
Sorry he (Franken) won for your political convictions? Al Frankens opponent for Senate was a guy named Norm Coleman (R) - arguably farther from Libertarian politics than Al Franken. Maybe you just meant another Republican would augment the effort the block the Democrats (maybe not an altogether bad thing).
Al Franken has been an awesome senator so far, exposing the liars in government. Big government? Blame that on the corporate criminals who have bought off washington and use it for their own benefits. That's the fault of the Libertarian anti-regulation nut jobs.
Libertarians favor smaller, not bigger government. We also don't have fewer regulations than we used to. We have many more than at any time than before under Bush. We now have even more under Obama. Tens of thousands of pages, pal.
There is also not a single member of the libertarian party who holds any meaningful office in Washington or any state. To blame all these problems on a powerless group is just pathetic on your part.
Libertarians want smaller government, fewer regulations on business, and are anti-worker. The conditions that allow the financial institutions to gamble with our money and get bailed out by tax payers were put in place by Libertarian thinkers like Alan Greenspan. Pal.
That's funny, I don't remember any libertarian saying they are anti-worker. What else are you going to make up?
Alan Greenspan a libertarian? No, he was a Keynesian. His "solutions" to problems was for the government to throw money at the problem. Just like John Maynard Keynes.
Libertarians support business. You cannot support business and workers at the same time. Libertarians are for NAFTA, which is inherently anti-worker and pro business.
Alan Greenspan is a deciple of Ayn Rand and is responsible for the dismantling of the Glass-Seigle act that started the demise of our economy.
You are mistaken. Libertarians are inherently neither supportive of business nor workers. They are simply anti-government, whether for a minimal amount or zero government. Period. End of story.
Alan Greenspan WAS a follower of Ayn Rand. But that was many years before he became federal reserve chairman. After that, he basically followed Keynes playbook of throwing taxpayer money at failing businesses as well as throwing taxpayer money at a variety of other things.
"You cannot support business and workers at the same time."
.............what?
Pal, do you even know how business works? A business cannot exist without workers, and vice versa. They are not the antithesis of each other. Workers make up a business. Rather, you cannot be anti-worker and pro business at the same time.
Just what clusterfuck of a worldview are you coming from? Have fun sucking the government's slimy cock.
Putting business and workers at odds is the main play in the leftist playbook. And yet, strangely, all of their policies are much more painful to workers (esp long-term). Look at how much better the situation for workers happens to be in Republican states vs democratic states.
@moodinator123 So in this great state of TX that I live in (and I do think it's a pretty darn good state) you're saying that the ease with which a company can get rid of you (Texas labor laws are extremely biased towards at-will employment) is better than in a blue state like MA where it's quite tough to fire someone? I'm supposed to enjoy lack of job security then in your view?
Wow, Elwyn, you are an idiot. I am not a libertarian...but you are completely clueless about their stance. They are not anti-worker. The Democratic party is the anti-worker party. Workers want jobs, democrats destroy jobs. Milton Freidman was a much more intelligent economist than that fool Keynes.
Anti-union IS pro-worker. Unions COST america jobs. All industries that get inflicted with unions DIE. Steel, Textiles, now Automobiles...all moving out of this country. EXCEPT for Non-union auto-workers in Tennessee working for Jap auto companies.
Unions are bad for workers nearly ALWAYS.
Minimum wage is not an issue, unless you are a fool. Only teenagers make it, most other workers make 25%-100% more in low-skill jobs.
Unions are responsible for creating the middle class. With their demise, we're seeing the middle class suffer. Currently 2/5ths of American households make minimum wage or less, so you're obviously mis-informed. Do some research before you start making up numbers.
Unions are responsible for costing the USA approx 12 million jobs since 1990. Those numbers come from the US Chamber of Commerce and the US Dept of Commerce and are undisputed. EPIC FAIL for you.
less than 1.2 million americans make the minimum wage. are you saying we only have 3 million people in america?
2/5ths of americans make 18,500 or less per year. I dont know where you're getting your numbers, but Im thinking it stinks like the pile my dogs makes in the back yard?
@moodinator123 Federal Min. wage minus garnishments doesn't even get a single person above the poverty line. I don't care if you're a teen or not. I remember working harder as a teen than the people around me with 10 years on me, all while making less than them.
That fool Keynes was responsible for pulling us out of the great depression. Your hero in the libertarian party, Greenspan, is responsible for the mess we are in today. And, one more thing - it's not over. You libertarians and republicans who want more de-regulation will be seeing further bankruptcies soon, and increased lay offs as a result of your stupid policies.
Derugulation works ALWAYS you fool. Keynes did nothing but LENGTHEN the depression. All of FDR's policies actually made the depression much worse. WWII was his only salvation. ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID???
Deregulation is what allows corporate banks engage in the dirivitives market, Private Equity companies to buy out businesses and break them up (destroying jobs) and create bubbles that burst after a few years of orgy feeding frenzy, leaving the tax payers to pick up the bill. That's deregulation.
Actually the derivitive market didn't hurt us. Over-regulation did. When the Federal gov't forced banks to start making bad loans in 1979 (to bad credit people) and forced poor leverage loans in 1999 (both by democrat admins) (and making banks make loans to people with as little a 0% down) ...that is what caused our current recession. The derivitives were used by banks trying topackage those bad loans they were forced to make so they didn't have to shoulder the whole load.
@moodinator123 it wasn't the original package that killed the market. It was packaging the horribly rated BBB loans from the original derivative into a new package, having those rated at AA, and then banks/traders buying bonds against that. It's logical to most people that you can't take the absolute worst repayment rated loans and then tell people "oh yah, it's safe cause it's rated AAA", but firms did anyways. If you don't think that should be regulated then where DO you draw the line?
What are you looking at off camera? Also, what's with the withdrawal jitters? Are you coming down on something or just OCD? Libertarian, eh? If all of Vegas went Libertarian, are you and you're other rich show friends gonna build the roads and police the streets? Cause that's what it means.
Politics is a complicated game. No matter what platform you stand on it's the individual's integrity that counts more than anything. So yeah, I'm a Libertarian too, but I support the good guy when I can.
...but Penn, what did you think of his opponent? Agree with his political philosophy or not, at least we have another Senator not on the Corporate payroll.
Libertarians are against the govenment doing big expensive things in this country - like inspecting our food for instance. Ride your bike without a helmet and eat at your own risk. Keep big government out of my quarter ponder. Live free and maybe die from E-coli!
Sure there's a danger...but there's still that danger even with regulations. And most businesses don't want to give you burgers with E-coli cus it means they're gonna lose customers.
First off, I really like Penn and respect him but this threw me.
You say that when he was your boss he treated everyone fairly and was a good person. His opponent was a douche bag promising tax cuts for his buddies. You chose the greedy douche over the fair and good?
Libertarians want to enjoy a high quality of life like the dems offer while not paying the bill like the republicans. Down here in Texas we call them Californians.
lol. that may be libertarian but it still sounds like republican. Against socialism unless it benefits them (bailouts using our checkbook) against communism but yet having the system most like communism where only top 1% has the wealth and the rest are dirt poor. Against bigger government where it stops them from making more money while hurting other people. (child labor laws) but the Nazi like Patriot Act is ok. Notice how it does not stop them from making money.
"not paying the bill like republicans"??? hahahahahaha....half of Obama's appointees (or attempted appointees) are tax evaders!! They think YOU should pay taxes, not them. Try to face the 'inconvenient facts"
I don't see how tax cuts are bad. It just means less of your money is stolen. Furthermore, upper income people already pay most of the taxes in the country. And no I'm not someone from an upper income family, I'm just willing to face the facts, lol.
AGAINST big government if it involves applying tax money towards services required for the average taxpayer but FOR big government when it comes to giving our tax money to their rich friends (military contracts, Wall Street Bailouts, etc.).
No one with "intelligence" would be a libertarian. Even Jefferson when he became president realized that the ideal of small government is just that, an ideal. When actually leading a nation he realized it is not only a foolish idea, its one that harms the people more then helps them.
Not only that, but Libertarians only respect the constitution when it suits them,I have not come across another group of people on Youtube that shut people down that disagree with them by banning or blocking.
I respect both Penn and Al Franken . They're doing something which most people these days don't. Remain friends and reasonable despite difference of opinion. I take this as a way of "I don't like what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it.". He doesn't like what his acquaintance stands for, but is glad that he, has a person succeeded in his goals.
Penn, you're a big fat load of shit! Your comedy is sub-moronic and your "magic" is even worse. What are you doing talking about what decent is? Go back to LaLa land and take Al Franken and his ilk with you.
penn you should support al because you both believe in the constitution and civil liberties, you shouldn't support corporate puppet norm coleman just because you agree with him on economic issues when he's insanely regressive on social ones.
We can always depend on the loud-mouthed Penn to give a totally irrelevant spiel. This is the person who loudly and overbearingly 0protested the death penalty even for murderers like Tookie Williams, who gunned down a family in front of each other and joked about it later, and the child kidnapper/rapist/murderer of Paula Klass.
Penn is a really stupid person who thinks he is smart person. What could be worse?? Totally pointless channel and Penn is a waste of our nations resources. Like our cattle.
You definitely should not support a Statist. You can like him as an individual, but as politician Al Franken (like almost every other politician) is scum. He, like most others working for the State, want to encroach upon liberties and rob people through taxation. Although if you like Lincoln, you are either ignorant or NOT a libertarian. He destroyed free speech, conscripted (slavery), and established the precedent that people cannot secede from a repressive government.
He was asking you to "support" him in the political sense, so yes, IMO you did the right thing. BTW, Lincoln was a wrestler, and Plato was a professional wrestler as well. (Not that Plato wasn't a nut-job, lol).
I imagine he was one of the head writers when Buck Henry was on SNL. Frankin and Davis was some funny stuff. I remember Gilda Radner was playing a girlscout and was asked to sit on a glass coffee table while "Uncle Buck" was underneath taking pictures.
I was in my late teens when that was aired. I remember that I laughed like a maniac. Not because stuff like that really happens, but because it was shocking and thus, funny as heck. SCTV, SNL Kids in the Hall. Most of that humor is taboo today..
I am pro Democrat because it is either that or be pro nut(meaning pro RepubliKKKans). I would just LOVE a Libertarian party as a real option. The Democrats have become the center right. We could use a left. Or at least something DIFFERENT.
How can you claim "I would just LOVE a Libertarian party" if you are pro Democrat? I bet you hardly have an inkling of what a Libertarian is. There is nothing remotely coherent with what you just said, because the Left have been dominating this country since the 70's. The left is hardly something DIFFERENT... explain to me what positive aspects the LEFT bring to this country... as far as I'm concerned they haven't done much but hurt us.
HapaLife: Seriously? Since the 70's? 1980- Reagan /1988- Bush 1 / 1992- Clinton / 2000- Bush 2 for eight more years.
So since 1980 we have had a combined 20 years of republican presidents/candidates. Where in the F^&K did you come up with that statistic? Are you retarded or just not interested in facts?
Oh and before you start the typical "Youre a liberal" bullshit, Im neither liberal nor conservative. Im just a fan of actual facts. I dont care what party you are affiliated with, to say we have been dominated by the left since 1970 is absurd. edit: Below I meant to put "cabinets" not "candidates"
Al Franken was a great comedy making person who one day began to take himself so seriously that he thought he should help save the world. He sought out and found others to support his big dream.... Weeee! Dem Dems & Publickins are all the same kind of folk, with different religious views. THE END IS NEAR!! RUN!!
Although I disagree with Mr Jillette, but you have to hand it to Libertarian these people are very respectable and wish they would take over the republican scum out there today. Things can get done in a bipartisan way with the Libertarian and Democrats in office, not the republican extremists out there now.
I'm not sure that Libertarians and Democrats have very much in common, Sort of orthogonal if you ask me. But yeah, Libertarians are Republicans are orthogonal as well.
The guy who was against Al Franken is Norm Coleman--who was and is an empty suit hand picked by Karl Rove to fill the unfillable shoes of Paul Wellstone. What has Rove ever done--ever-- that was any good? Franken may be a comedian, but he's also an author, a Harvard grad, and a progressive. Why do people always mention the wrestler as if it's part of the equasion? It isn't.
Well, considering the republicans are spend spend spend, and cut taxes so they don't care if the country goes completely into debt, I don't see why the libertarians would support them any more than they would the democrats, who are tax and spend. Tax and spend is at least financially responsible. Both parties are for the expansion of government, which is generally a bad thing.
we've got people on Capitol Hill who say in front of the CSPAN cameras and the gallery and everyone that "we know marriage should be one man and one woman because God showed us that, in the Garden of Eden."
That is their *political position.* The source material they are using to make civil laws.
Seriously. And we are supposed to worry about Al Franken? He's got more sense in his left nut than half these christian imbeciles.
I thought the root of marrage was a man and woman taking an oath to god and each other, why is the gov. involved in its approval on any level? I say its between the two people, government is not god nor should it play that its approval or disapproval have any place in any of it.
Al is going to be a wonderful senator...just look at the useless idiot senators in the GOP....most of them don't even believe in evolution!!! The GOP has dwindled down to a hard core group of ideological fanatics...WTG GOP!! Franken is brilliant and will rip them a new one. Congrats SENATOR Al Franken!!!
Al Franken, bless his heart, wants to the internet to remain free of corporate asshole control.
Penn Jillette's boss, Viacom cryptkeeper Sumner Redstone, has his winged monkey lawyers working night and day trying to take over YouTube.
They are both Zionists though, supporting the Israeli government no matter what atrocity it commits, including the onging apartheid/genocide of the Palestinians, paid for with billions yearly in US tax money and unlimited state of trhe art weaponry.
Penn Jillette is not failed illusionist by any means. He is a failed quizmaster on a game show. Other than that, he is a successful fame whore and shill for the Cato Institute corporate propaganda mill.
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Penn Jillette is not in league with the ExxonMobil-funded, Monsanto-funded, Walmart-funded, JP Morgan Chase-funded, Phillip Morris-funded Cato Institute? That's funny, because he freely admits it.
"Libertarianism" is nothing more than old school right wing whack job John Birch Society arch Republican winner take all and fuck the rest, with legalized hookers and drugs thrown in to seduce working people and young people into voting against their economic interests.
Liberals enjoy slandering everyone that is not in complet lock step with them. They have no problem lying about anything if they think it will further their ideology. Like Joeseph Goerbels
Who really gives a flying fuck what a failed illusionist thinks about ANYTHING? If he's so good, why isn't he famous? I think his best magic trick would be to make himself dissappear along with that other half-wit that makes up his lackluster (pathetic) act.
Franken is a man with aspirations to become more than a has-been entertainer capable of little more than sleight-of-hand tricks and beating gums over non-issues. Al Franken has a purpose beyond knocking on others for his coverage.
Never was, never will be. He's just a legend in his own mind, a veritable empty suit ,as it were. He's not fit to wash the feet of Al Sharpton, another self -centered egomaniac, with a narcissus complex who has fallen deeply in love with his mirror. No, the kings new clothes are all together but Penn is as naked as the day that he was born. I never trusted anyone who looks like the Geico caveman with a fucking haircut.
Maybe you need to define "success" here. I think that most people would consider a steady, high paying gig in Vegas and a successful television series to be successful, especially in the magic biz. What is your standard, here?
In what universe is a multi millionaire with one of the most popular, long running illusion shows in vegas and hosting 2 tv and one radio shows concurrently a failure? How is he not famous?
You don't like him, fine. But you cannot objectively say he is a failure or not famous. By any measure, fan base, money earned, exposure, name recognition...the opposite is true.
Hitler had every one of those quickly batted attributes to his "credit" but that certainly wasn't a valid yardstick for his
'accomplishments", was it? The success man is not measured by the fame or the booty that he can sack away but moreso by the positive accomplishments of his life's work.
Aside from a few sleight-of-hand tricks, what more has this "great" man attained to? Has he fed the poor, cured the sick? has he made the world a better place to live in or simply feathered his own nest?
Well seeing as you do not understand the engine of free enterprise it will never be clear to you how he makes the world a better place. But suffice to say, he is an illusion innovator, a committed skeptic and die-hard promoter of the scientific method and free speech. He supports children's charities and plainly, he entertains. There may be a few things better than making an audience laugh and have a good time, but it's a short list. You clearly hate him, but he's not some robber baron.
Al Franken actually has a brain, some courage and integrity. Better he not be connected with Cato Institute corporate dancing monkey errand boy Penn Jillette.
I was curious as hell about this. There is an unbelievable amount that Penn could do to help make the US a more libertarian place. (As far as targeted races and jury rights activism is concerned.) I'd love to talk with him sometime.
I obey the laws enforced by the government , no problem. but when cops make up laws on the spot ,very libertarian, I dont like it , but rich entertainers wouldnt understand that .I listened to you on the radio in chicago and most of it was just funny I listened to al and he was just plain smarter than you . the government protects me from people like you and you from people like me
"When cops make up laws on the spot, very liberarian." What are you taking about? That makes no sense at all. I would guess most cops are democrats... Why you might ask? Because they are union members and the democrats have been paying the Unions for votes since unions have been in business. You seem uneducated in the political sense so your forgiven.
Wow. That was a really pointless 5 minutes. Stick to magic, buddy.
butchermachine 5 months ago
I bet you could have fought Al Franken and cost his 340 votes Penn.
Oh well, he is a funny man.
sndymornful 7 months ago
I can understand. I'm a bleeding-heart liberal atheist; my best friend is a conservative Christian. If he were running for office, I couldn't support his platform, but would still be glad for him if he won.
Cabochon1360 8 months ago 2
Funny how Franken and Rand Paul are friends in the Senate. :3
YesWeCantaloupe 10 months ago
So with government it's always "BIGGER" never better, not like corporations, huh? Libertarianism is as practical and sensible as communism.
TheFrankFactor 1 year ago
@TheFrankFactor I gotta agree. I see strength in numbers.... libertarianism sounds to me like we need to divide to be better conquered by the more powerful.... so we can have big banks and corporations like the gas companies pillaging our country and ruining the water bed trample all over us.
I just don't see the benifit in the libertarian ideals.
HarfangX 1 year ago
@HarfangX
Sounds like you don't really know what Libertarian ideals are..
Incidentally, I'm a Libertarian Socialist so I understand Libertarian ideals pretty damn well. But 'Libertarian ideals' as a blanket statement, really descredits itself. You see..GeoLibertarian and Anarchistic ideals are not the same, much like Libertarian Conservatism and Left-Libertarianism don't have the same ideals. I really have difficulty believing you've ever studied Libertarianism..
BelfastAtheist 11 months ago
@BelfastAtheist I'm aware that there's left-leaning libertarianism but... I guess it did not come to mind in this context...
90% of time time in the US we're talking about right-wing minimalists.
HarfangX 11 months ago
FUCKING GET TO THE POINT ALREADY!
RiotChamp 1 year ago
@RiotChamp You realize the video tells you how long it is ahead of time, and there's a convenient little red bar at the bottom that lets you skip to whichever point you wish, right?
TheRealAkaRai 1 year ago
@TheRealAkaRai Oh snap I had no idea! This makes it that much more pointless.
RiotChamp 1 year ago
You should have talked to Al more. You cannot debate Libertarism in public, because its dated! It no longer applies to a complex society of 300 million people. Robber barons got their money by "Crony Capitalism"...not the free market. Their was once some area's of "free market" capitalism....but that has long been scooped up by the original robber barons! Wall Mart, Nixon, China etc etc....shows conclusively that "free market capitalism" is nearly non existent. Crony capitalism is in fact ruling
ultramanprime9 1 year ago
@ultramanprime9 pretty much
adzug 1 year ago
Sort of sums up libertarianism in a nutshell. Someone who will never put people above ideas.
lawyerly 1 year ago
I also have a friend who is a Democrat that was involved in some campaigning a while back. He never asked me for any money but I do think that he knew that if he had asked me, I wouldn't have given him any. Considering he knows that I'm a Libertarian , I doubt it was ever an issue for him. I wish any friend well for supporting what they believe in but I can't put aside my own personal beliefs based on my relationship with them. I would hope that most people would feel the same way.
upinarms79 1 year ago
"his heart is really in the right place" Well the road to hell is paved with good liberal intentions.
vintagevic1 1 year ago
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"Well the road to hell is paved with good liberal intentions."
soooo... your solution is to vote for the candidates with bad intentions? huh?
MagicTimeVideos 1 year ago
3:00 i believe the words youre looking for are statist scum.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Penn you ROCK!!!! Commedians are just that! JOKES!!!! This economy is a disaster! Al Frankly my dear i dont give a damn!
the430movie 1 year ago
Franken won because hundreds of illegal votes were cast by felons, several boxes of ballots were "found" after the first count, and many Franken-friendly districts counted more votes cast than there were registered voters.
And yet, people still whine about Bush stealing Florida in 2000 for no other reason than wishful thinking.
ynot4tony2 1 year ago
Im surprised to hear him speak so highly of Jesse Ventura.The man is an unabashed 9/11 truther, which by default makes him well... retarded!
bylerodt3 1 year ago
i like penn and i like franken. 2 smart guys. i'd like to see a political debate between the two perhaps on the bill maher show
LiberalAlien 1 year ago
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Oudler 1 year ago
hmm im still not sure where penn stands. oh well another fence walker.
jamiesullen 1 year ago
I like what Penn does for rational thinking, but I can't believe that he thinks that because Franken is a Democrat he will vote, by necessity, for big Government. There are only two parties to choose from where you have a chance to be elected for office. Penn has generalized Franken's intentions. Shame on you, Penn. You know better.
Bozantium 1 year ago
THis was a really really weak response. Penn on his show bullshit is able to use reasoned arguments. "As a libertarain" he supports his view no matter what and therefore he cannot debate. At best he can say he is happy for AL but he cannot explain WHY Franken believes what he does believe. If its a matter of conflicting values Penn should explain WHY FRanken is wrong. If he can't defend libertarianism as right then he is really no better than a religous person who depends on faith
JeniusRob 1 year ago
@JeniusRob Pretty much. The only thing people should really support no matter what are reality and facts, not idealogies that get kicked to the curb when human nature arrives.
Shyhalu 1 year ago
Penn's attitude towards life is very admirable.
bozzutoman 1 year ago
Nice piece, Penn. You shared a nice sentiment and honesty as well. Good of you to acknowledge Franken's honesty and kindness even while stating your direct opposition to his political views.
Thanks for doing it out of character. Love the brashness in the act, but it's nice to see a real mensch in there.
OrganCat 1 year ago
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
Penn's right. Way too many people vote because they like the candidate on a personal level rather than their ideas and political/economic/social agendas. If you had brain cancer, would you ask for the 'funniest,' or 'coolest' doctor you could find despite the fact that he really favors the use of snake oils and Advil to cure brain diseases? Even if he was a personal friend, you might have to bite the bullet and just say thanks but no thanks. Franken is as qualified as by 3 year old!
mdstalla 1 year ago
You're a Libertarian who believes if a corporation feels it's within there business interest to deny services to Black people, than it should have that right. You're a Libertarian who believes government shouldn't dictate to Corporate America what it should or should not be doing, and so we get the oil spill in the Gulf, KBR workers systematically raping women in Iraq, coal mining disasters, Blackwater murders. You've got to love Libertarians!!!
caleab27 1 year ago
@caleab27
Obviously its within the business' right. It is private property. You don't let just anyone into your house, do you? And who would go to a restaurant that had a "no blacks" sign anyways? And what kind of corporation would for some reason refuse to serve an ethnic minority? Even Noam Chomsky said this would NOT happen since corporations want one thing-- money.
FlashVirus 1 year ago 7
@FlashVirus
'And who would go to a restaurant that had a "no blacks" sign anyways?'
Almost every white person in the USA up into the 60s and 70s maybe?
'And what kind of corporation would for some reason refuse to serve an ethnic minority?'
Almost every corporation operated by white people in the USA right up into the 60s and 70s maybe?
singring76 7 months ago 3
I love My Minnesota :)
Bauks420 1 year ago
FAKE
AP28purplejesus 1 year ago
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pennsays 1 year ago
Why the reflexive refusal to not vote for Democrats because you're a Libertarian? Plenty of Democrats are the superior choice compared to their Republican counterparts, from a perspective of individual liberty.
gensu3k1 1 year ago
If you can't trust the opinion of a loud, pompous, overbearing blowhard like Penn, who can you trust??
OrmEmber 1 year ago
I like this guy, but, Jesus...is he on coke?
AceSkepTik 1 year ago
@AceSkepTik Penn has stated he's never done any drugs.
pennsays 1 year ago 2
@pennsays I see. Has he ever made any statements about his ability to recognize humor?
AceSkepTik 1 year ago
@AceSkepTik Do you mean his ability or mine? ;-)
pennsays 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics and the building of it was funded by the federal goverment as well as many other services. making these services socialist issues economics can be tricky i guess theirs now way to be completly one way or the other
rokee1979 1 year ago
Ha. I looked up Jesse Ventura on Wikipedia after watching this again and his governor's portrait is hilarious.
pennsays 1 year ago 2
good point.. however las vegas is in the middle of a desert and they do not have their own water supply so everytime they flush the toilet or make a pot of coffee or wash a dish or take a simple drink of water they are enjoying the fruits of someone elses labor and wages in taxes. kaynesiam economics built their water supply system and most of the west coast
rokee1979 1 year ago
Isn't it nice to hear someone speak honestly? Penn is a pretty straightforward guy.
jstarret 1 year ago
Penn is a douche!
Bodebodango 1 year ago
calling al franken a senator NOT SO FUNNY!!!
rabidchevy 1 year ago
calling al franken a comedian NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!!!
rabidchevy 1 year ago
"Comedian in the senate"..
Wait, aren't you a comedian?
MrSaddleMaster 1 year ago
@MrSaddleMaster According to Wikipedia he is.
pennsays 1 year ago
@MrSaddleMaster
That's why Penn says he is proud to have a comedian in the senate.
infinitefathom 1 year ago
Has anyone picked up on Penn as an asshole? He really stinks!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
All of civilized society consists of trade-offs. The key question is what type of government activity results in more ACTUAL freedom for americans. The GOP like to sell you theories and then look the other way when their theories turn out to be worthless.
tallcoolone1 2 years ago
I agree with Penn in principle, that Libertarianism is the highest ideal, but i think that in practice it results in less liberty. This is because the void left by government results in domination by ruling elites or even by the poor. For instance, in Haiti, there is no forest because the poor chop it down for wood. Hence economic liberty and opportunity are limited. Monopolies also hurt freedom. HMO's hurt it too, because you cant start a new business and risk losing health insurance..
tallcoolone1 2 years ago
Its a careful balance. That is what I think. Its nice to have the "elites" and the government at their throats but its hard to keep them both like that for all of eternity.
st1tcount 2 years ago
I would say that if Haitians need wood that badly, it's probably going to good use. I don't know if they're abusing the forest, all I know is if you're cold or you want cooked food, it's not abuse to take what you want.
samqueler 1 year ago
Simpleton Franken
What were you thinking Minnesota ?
mstaff657 2 years ago
just the fact that Al is honest and fighting for what he believes in puts him above most US senators. Ideology isn't the problem with congress, it's the fact that most senators are working for the lobbyists instead of the people. I would support any senator who I knew was honest, regardless of his/her ideology.
Radacoin 2 years ago
No wonder Teller never talks. Penn never shuts up.
mungous1000 2 years ago
Penn can't take a joke. :-)
pennsays 2 years ago
PLEAE come to Texas to help Kinky!
pboisei 2 years ago
Libertarians are good! I vote "3rd Party" every opportunity I have!
Sorry he (Franken) won for your political convictions? Al Frankens opponent for Senate was a guy named Norm Coleman (R) - arguably farther from Libertarian politics than Al Franken. Maybe you just meant another Republican would augment the effort the block the Democrats (maybe not an altogether bad thing).
toddc123 2 years ago
We won! You losers can suck it!
Go get 'em, Franken!
vivalaleta 2 years ago
Al Franken has been an awesome senator so far, exposing the liars in government. Big government? Blame that on the corporate criminals who have bought off washington and use it for their own benefits. That's the fault of the Libertarian anti-regulation nut jobs.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
agreed.
"government run by organized money is the same as government run by the organized mob" - Franklin D. Roosevelt
NoRegretsForOurYouth 2 years ago
You just contradicted yourself.
Libertarians favor smaller, not bigger government. We also don't have fewer regulations than we used to. We have many more than at any time than before under Bush. We now have even more under Obama. Tens of thousands of pages, pal.
There is also not a single member of the libertarian party who holds any meaningful office in Washington or any state. To blame all these problems on a powerless group is just pathetic on your part.
nurbSoldier 2 years ago
Libertarians want smaller government, fewer regulations on business, and are anti-worker. The conditions that allow the financial institutions to gamble with our money and get bailed out by tax payers were put in place by Libertarian thinkers like Alan Greenspan. Pal.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
That's funny, I don't remember any libertarian saying they are anti-worker. What else are you going to make up?
Alan Greenspan a libertarian? No, he was a Keynesian. His "solutions" to problems was for the government to throw money at the problem. Just like John Maynard Keynes.
nurbSoldier 2 years ago
Libertarians support business. You cannot support business and workers at the same time. Libertarians are for NAFTA, which is inherently anti-worker and pro business.
Alan Greenspan is a deciple of Ayn Rand and is responsible for the dismantling of the Glass-Seigle act that started the demise of our economy.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
You are mistaken. Libertarians are inherently neither supportive of business nor workers. They are simply anti-government, whether for a minimal amount or zero government. Period. End of story.
Alan Greenspan WAS a follower of Ayn Rand. But that was many years before he became federal reserve chairman. After that, he basically followed Keynes playbook of throwing taxpayer money at failing businesses as well as throwing taxpayer money at a variety of other things.
nurbSoldier 2 years ago
"You cannot support business and workers at the same time."
.............what?
Pal, do you even know how business works? A business cannot exist without workers, and vice versa. They are not the antithesis of each other. Workers make up a business. Rather, you cannot be anti-worker and pro business at the same time.
Just what clusterfuck of a worldview are you coming from? Have fun sucking the government's slimy cock.
soapfiction 2 years ago
Putting business and workers at odds is the main play in the leftist playbook. And yet, strangely, all of their policies are much more painful to workers (esp long-term). Look at how much better the situation for workers happens to be in Republican states vs democratic states.
moodinator123 2 years ago
@moodinator123 So in this great state of TX that I live in (and I do think it's a pretty darn good state) you're saying that the ease with which a company can get rid of you (Texas labor laws are extremely biased towards at-will employment) is better than in a blue state like MA where it's quite tough to fire someone? I'm supposed to enjoy lack of job security then in your view?
ikelso82 1 year ago
Wow, Elwyn, you are an idiot. I am not a libertarian...but you are completely clueless about their stance. They are not anti-worker. The Democratic party is the anti-worker party. Workers want jobs, democrats destroy jobs. Milton Freidman was a much more intelligent economist than that fool Keynes.
moodinator123 2 years ago
Pro-Nafta isn't anti-worker?
Anti-union isnt anti-worker?
Deregulation of business, promoting greater control of employers over their worker?
Against the living wage?
Those are all anti-worker and pro-libertarian beliefs.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
I am an anti-nafta conservative.
Anti-union IS pro-worker. Unions COST america jobs. All industries that get inflicted with unions DIE. Steel, Textiles, now Automobiles...all moving out of this country. EXCEPT for Non-union auto-workers in Tennessee working for Jap auto companies.
Unions are bad for workers nearly ALWAYS.
Minimum wage is not an issue, unless you are a fool. Only teenagers make it, most other workers make 25%-100% more in low-skill jobs.
Anymore liberal myths???
moodinator123 2 years ago
Unions are responsible for creating the middle class. With their demise, we're seeing the middle class suffer. Currently 2/5ths of American households make minimum wage or less, so you're obviously mis-informed. Do some research before you start making up numbers.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
Unions are responsible for costing the USA approx 12 million jobs since 1990. Those numbers come from the US Chamber of Commerce and the US Dept of Commerce and are undisputed. EPIC FAIL for you.
less than 1.2 million americans make the minimum wage. are you saying we only have 3 million people in america?
moodinator123 2 years ago
2/5ths of americans make 18,500 or less per year. I dont know where you're getting your numbers, but Im thinking it stinks like the pile my dogs makes in the back yard?
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
@moodinator123 Federal Min. wage minus garnishments doesn't even get a single person above the poverty line. I don't care if you're a teen or not. I remember working harder as a teen than the people around me with 10 years on me, all while making less than them.
ikelso82 1 year ago
That fool Keynes was responsible for pulling us out of the great depression. Your hero in the libertarian party, Greenspan, is responsible for the mess we are in today. And, one more thing - it's not over. You libertarians and republicans who want more de-regulation will be seeing further bankruptcies soon, and increased lay offs as a result of your stupid policies.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
Derugulation works ALWAYS you fool. Keynes did nothing but LENGTHEN the depression. All of FDR's policies actually made the depression much worse. WWII was his only salvation. ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID???
moodinator123 2 years ago
Deregulation is what allows corporate banks engage in the dirivitives market, Private Equity companies to buy out businesses and break them up (destroying jobs) and create bubbles that burst after a few years of orgy feeding frenzy, leaving the tax payers to pick up the bill. That's deregulation.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
Actually the derivitive market didn't hurt us. Over-regulation did. When the Federal gov't forced banks to start making bad loans in 1979 (to bad credit people) and forced poor leverage loans in 1999 (both by democrat admins) (and making banks make loans to people with as little a 0% down) ...that is what caused our current recession. The derivitives were used by banks trying topackage those bad loans they were forced to make so they didn't have to shoulder the whole load.
moodinator123 2 years ago
@moodinator123 it wasn't the original package that killed the market. It was packaging the horribly rated BBB loans from the original derivative into a new package, having those rated at AA, and then banks/traders buying bonds against that. It's logical to most people that you can't take the absolute worst repayment rated loans and then tell people "oh yah, it's safe cause it's rated AAA", but firms did anyways. If you don't think that should be regulated then where DO you draw the line?
ikelso82 1 year ago
ElwynIdiot.
You need to do some research before MAKING UP complete lies. You are an idiot and a liar. I have debunked everything you've said. EPIC FAIL for you.
And EPIC LIFE FAIL for you and your $15,000 yearly income.
moodinator123 2 years ago
You're a dreamer and you make a great republican. God bless you.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
It's nice to know both you and Penn are pro-republican. I'm sure he'll love that.
ElwynMaximus 2 years ago
I don't agree w/ AF.
Yet I feel like a DUMBASS for wasting 6min of my life watching this moron talk in circles.
cheerdiver 2 years ago
What are you looking at off camera? Also, what's with the withdrawal jitters? Are you coming down on something or just OCD? Libertarian, eh? If all of Vegas went Libertarian, are you and you're other rich show friends gonna build the roads and police the streets? Cause that's what it means.
TheBoweeven 2 years ago
Penn, insightful as always. What the heck is the mark on your brow??? Looks like somebody took a pickax to your forehead!
diddymuck 2 years ago
Politics is a complicated game. No matter what platform you stand on it's the individual's integrity that counts more than anything. So yeah, I'm a Libertarian too, but I support the good guy when I can.
RondoRaven 2 years ago
Cheers to Penn for having a civil disagreement. To me that is real discourse.
Bd951 2 years ago 8
i like penns videos for this reason. is nice to hae someone disagree with you and still be civil and intelligence about their stance
rokee1979 1 year ago
...but Penn, what did you think of his opponent? Agree with his political philosophy or not, at least we have another Senator not on the Corporate payroll.
chowpappy 2 years ago
what is the saying? "libertarians are just republicans that like to smoke pot"? I think that's how it goes... lol
suburbandrone 2 years ago 2
Libertarians are against the govenment doing big expensive things in this country - like inspecting our food for instance. Ride your bike without a helmet and eat at your own risk. Keep big government out of my quarter ponder. Live free and maybe die from E-coli!
freakyold 2 years ago
Sure there's a danger...but there's still that danger even with regulations. And most businesses don't want to give you burgers with E-coli cus it means they're gonna lose customers.
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
First off, I really like Penn and respect him but this threw me.
You say that when he was your boss he treated everyone fairly and was a good person. His opponent was a douche bag promising tax cuts for his buddies. You chose the greedy douche over the fair and good?
Libertarians want to enjoy a high quality of life like the dems offer while not paying the bill like the republicans. Down here in Texas we call them Californians.
zerolizard 2 years ago
lol. that may be libertarian but it still sounds like republican. Against socialism unless it benefits them (bailouts using our checkbook) against communism but yet having the system most like communism where only top 1% has the wealth and the rest are dirt poor. Against bigger government where it stops them from making more money while hurting other people. (child labor laws) but the Nazi like Patriot Act is ok. Notice how it does not stop them from making money.
A31Chris 2 years ago
I guess you didnt notice that Obama chose to continue the Patriot Act....who's the Nazi now?
nudgler 2 years ago
Yes he did. He's bought and paid for like the rest of them. Franken seems to be the only one who wants to be half honest.
A31Chris 2 years ago 2
"not paying the bill like republicans"??? hahahahahaha....half of Obama's appointees (or attempted appointees) are tax evaders!! They think YOU should pay taxes, not them. Try to face the 'inconvenient facts"
nudgler 2 years ago
I don't see how tax cuts are bad. It just means less of your money is stolen. Furthermore, upper income people already pay most of the taxes in the country. And no I'm not someone from an upper income family, I'm just willing to face the facts, lol.
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
Definition of Libertarian:
AGAINST big government if it involves applying tax money towards services required for the average taxpayer but FOR big government when it comes to giving our tax money to their rich friends (military contracts, Wall Street Bailouts, etc.).
trader1963 2 years ago
Penn is very well spoken for an idiot.
(All "libertarians" are idiots.)
diezungen 2 years ago
No one with "intelligence" would be a libertarian. Even Jefferson when he became president realized that the ideal of small government is just that, an ideal. When actually leading a nation he realized it is not only a foolish idea, its one that harms the people more then helps them.
Not only that, but Libertarians only respect the constitution when it suits them,I have not come across another group of people on Youtube that shut people down that disagree with them by banning or blocking.
rdrakken 2 years ago
I respect both Penn and Al Franken . They're doing something which most people these days don't. Remain friends and reasonable despite difference of opinion. I take this as a way of "I don't like what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it.". He doesn't like what his acquaintance stands for, but is glad that he, has a person succeeded in his goals.
sleepingkirby 2 years ago
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Al Franken and his lib buddies cheated.
stimpp 2 years ago
Penn, you're a big fat load of shit! Your comedy is sub-moronic and your "magic" is even worse. What are you doing talking about what decent is? Go back to LaLa land and take Al Franken and his ilk with you.
jeffhickman10 2 years ago
You're right, Abraham Lincoln was a wrestler.
EnemyAce88 2 years ago
penn you should support al because you both believe in the constitution and civil liberties, you shouldn't support corporate puppet norm coleman just because you agree with him on economic issues when he's insanely regressive on social ones.
Radacoin 2 years ago 2
kinda cool... Penn seems like a rational man...
CatboxDesign 2 years ago
good for you penn
cassidy99ful 2 years ago
Ahhhh...what a tangled web. You did the right thing. Howard Roark would have done the same.
scwallac 2 years ago
We can always depend on the loud-mouthed Penn to give a totally irrelevant spiel. This is the person who loudly and overbearingly 0protested the death penalty even for murderers like Tookie Williams, who gunned down a family in front of each other and joked about it later, and the child kidnapper/rapist/murderer of Paula Klass.
Yeah, you go, Penn.
OrmEmber 2 years ago
Penn is a really stupid person who thinks he is smart person. What could be worse?? Totally pointless channel and Penn is a waste of our nations resources. Like our cattle.
fireplug111 2 years ago
You definitely should not support a Statist. You can like him as an individual, but as politician Al Franken (like almost every other politician) is scum. He, like most others working for the State, want to encroach upon liberties and rob people through taxation. Although if you like Lincoln, you are either ignorant or NOT a libertarian. He destroyed free speech, conscripted (slavery), and established the precedent that people cannot secede from a repressive government.
JohnRater 2 years ago
He was asking you to "support" him in the political sense, so yes, IMO you did the right thing. BTW, Lincoln was a wrestler, and Plato was a professional wrestler as well. (Not that Plato wasn't a nut-job, lol).
Stay cool.
Serpent
Libertarian Atheist
Serpent257 2 years ago
holy shit!!!!!!! i didnt know he was in the senate!!!!!
royceicon 2 years ago
Abe Lincoln was an ACTUAL wrestler, not a fake one.
angusrocks6464 2 years ago
that maybe true but im sure lincoln didnt "wrestle" as often or take the pounding that jesse did over the course of his pro career.
of course jesse wasnt in charge of a war either so i guess its a wash LOL
j2times2006 2 years ago
I imagine he was one of the head writers when Buck Henry was on SNL. Frankin and Davis was some funny stuff. I remember Gilda Radner was playing a girlscout and was asked to sit on a glass coffee table while "Uncle Buck" was underneath taking pictures.
I was in my late teens when that was aired. I remember that I laughed like a maniac. Not because stuff like that really happens, but because it was shocking and thus, funny as heck. SCTV, SNL Kids in the Hall. Most of that humor is taboo today..
4QBUD 2 years ago
I respect Libertarians so much more than Republicans.
ItsAMug 2 years ago 6
did he get hit in the forehead with a bat?
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago
I am pro Democrat because it is either that or be pro nut(meaning pro RepubliKKKans). I would just LOVE a Libertarian party as a real option. The Democrats have become the center right. We could use a left. Or at least something DIFFERENT.
Just to keep things stirred the right way.
xhagast 2 years ago
How can you claim "I would just LOVE a Libertarian party" if you are pro Democrat? I bet you hardly have an inkling of what a Libertarian is. There is nothing remotely coherent with what you just said, because the Left have been dominating this country since the 70's. The left is hardly something DIFFERENT... explain to me what positive aspects the LEFT bring to this country... as far as I'm concerned they haven't done much but hurt us.
HapaLife 2 years ago
HapaLife: Seriously? Since the 70's? 1980- Reagan /1988- Bush 1 / 1992- Clinton / 2000- Bush 2 for eight more years.
So since 1980 we have had a combined 20 years of republican presidents/candidates. Where in the F^&K did you come up with that statistic? Are you retarded or just not interested in facts?
volta720 2 years ago
Oh and before you start the typical "Youre a liberal" bullshit, Im neither liberal nor conservative. Im just a fan of actual facts. I dont care what party you are affiliated with, to say we have been dominated by the left since 1970 is absurd. edit: Below I meant to put "cabinets" not "candidates"
volta720 2 years ago
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Yearning2ride 2 years ago
Fair enough.
megabraddotcom 2 years ago
Al Franken was a great comedy making person who one day began to take himself so seriously that he thought he should help save the world. He sought out and found others to support his big dream.... Weeee! Dem Dems & Publickins are all the same kind of folk, with different religious views. THE END IS NEAR!! RUN!!
MewMewIchigo1237 2 years ago
Although I disagree with Mr Jillette, but you have to hand it to Libertarian these people are very respectable and wish they would take over the republican scum out there today. Things can get done in a bipartisan way with the Libertarian and Democrats in office, not the republican extremists out there now.
Mr Jillette your a good man and a scholar!
bloggerfl5486 2 years ago
I'm not sure that Libertarians and Democrats have very much in common, Sort of orthogonal if you ask me. But yeah, Libertarians are Republicans are orthogonal as well.
gclapp 2 years ago
The guy who was against Al Franken is Norm Coleman--who was and is an empty suit hand picked by Karl Rove to fill the unfillable shoes of Paul Wellstone. What has Rove ever done--ever-- that was any good? Franken may be a comedian, but he's also an author, a Harvard grad, and a progressive. Why do people always mention the wrestler as if it's part of the equasion? It isn't.
motamanx 2 years ago
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frio109 2 years ago
Well, considering the republicans are spend spend spend, and cut taxes so they don't care if the country goes completely into debt, I don't see why the libertarians would support them any more than they would the democrats, who are tax and spend. Tax and spend is at least financially responsible. Both parties are for the expansion of government, which is generally a bad thing.
Cayvmann 2 years ago
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Penn endorsed Franken. He betrayed libertarianism in favor of statism because his friend was the statist.
Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
What? Is this something different then what is on the video?
Sam666gelber 2 years ago
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Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
we've got people on Capitol Hill who say in front of the CSPAN cameras and the gallery and everyone that "we know marriage should be one man and one woman because God showed us that, in the Garden of Eden."
That is their *political position.* The source material they are using to make civil laws.
Seriously. And we are supposed to worry about Al Franken? He's got more sense in his left nut than half these christian imbeciles.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
I thought the root of marrage was a man and woman taking an oath to god and each other, why is the gov. involved in its approval on any level? I say its between the two people, government is not god nor should it play that its approval or disapproval have any place in any of it.
pensword5 2 years ago
Al is going to be a wonderful senator...just look at the useless idiot senators in the GOP....most of them don't even believe in evolution!!! The GOP has dwindled down to a hard core group of ideological fanatics...WTG GOP!! Franken is brilliant and will rip them a new one. Congrats SENATOR Al Franken!!!
TeenCretin 2 years ago
Al Franken, bless his heart, wants to the internet to remain free of corporate asshole control.
Penn Jillette's boss, Viacom cryptkeeper Sumner Redstone, has his winged monkey lawyers working night and day trying to take over YouTube.
They are both Zionists though, supporting the Israeli government no matter what atrocity it commits, including the onging apartheid/genocide of the Palestinians, paid for with billions yearly in US tax money and unlimited state of trhe art weaponry.
walterglanz 2 years ago 3
Penn Jillette is not failed illusionist by any means. He is a failed quizmaster on a game show. Other than that, he is a successful fame whore and shill for the Cato Institute corporate propaganda mill.
tonzimala 2 years ago 2
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Penn Jillette is not in league with the ExxonMobil-funded, Monsanto-funded, Walmart-funded, JP Morgan Chase-funded, Phillip Morris-funded Cato Institute? That's funny, because he freely admits it.
"Libertarianism" is nothing more than old school right wing whack job John Birch Society arch Republican winner take all and fuck the rest, with legalized hookers and drugs thrown in to seduce working people and young people into voting against their economic interests.
bc9021010001 2 years ago
That's not quite right, the really are social progressives.
They play both sides.....
Curas1 2 years ago
Who are you to tell me what my economic interests are? That's precisely what libertarianism is in opposition to.
Rishodi 2 years ago
hmm. skitsnack, or kiddie porn....decisions decisions
Shittywaffles 2 years ago
Liberals enjoy slandering everyone that is not in complet lock step with them. They have no problem lying about anything if they think it will further their ideology. Like Joeseph Goerbels
bluegsp 2 years ago
Who really gives a flying fuck what a failed illusionist thinks about ANYTHING? If he's so good, why isn't he famous? I think his best magic trick would be to make himself dissappear along with that other half-wit that makes up his lackluster (pathetic) act.
Franken is a man with aspirations to become more than a has-been entertainer capable of little more than sleight-of-hand tricks and beating gums over non-issues. Al Franken has a purpose beyond knocking on others for his coverage.
mrepugnant 2 years ago
He failed? He's not famous?
LafinJack 2 years ago
Never was, never will be. He's just a legend in his own mind, a veritable empty suit ,as it were. He's not fit to wash the feet of Al Sharpton, another self -centered egomaniac, with a narcissus complex who has fallen deeply in love with his mirror. No, the kings new clothes are all together but Penn is as naked as the day that he was born. I never trusted anyone who looks like the Geico caveman with a fucking haircut.
mrepugnant 2 years ago
Maybe you need to define "success" here. I think that most people would consider a steady, high paying gig in Vegas and a successful television series to be successful, especially in the magic biz. What is your standard, here?
sethmanapio 2 years ago
In what universe is a multi millionaire with one of the most popular, long running illusion shows in vegas and hosting 2 tv and one radio shows concurrently a failure? How is he not famous?
You don't like him, fine. But you cannot objectively say he is a failure or not famous. By any measure, fan base, money earned, exposure, name recognition...the opposite is true.
kev3d 2 years ago
Hitler had every one of those quickly batted attributes to his "credit" but that certainly wasn't a valid yardstick for his
'accomplishments", was it? The success man is not measured by the fame or the booty that he can sack away but moreso by the positive accomplishments of his life's work.
Aside from a few sleight-of-hand tricks, what more has this "great" man attained to? Has he fed the poor, cured the sick? has he made the world a better place to live in or simply feathered his own nest?
mrepugnant 2 years ago
Well seeing as you do not understand the engine of free enterprise it will never be clear to you how he makes the world a better place. But suffice to say, he is an illusion innovator, a committed skeptic and die-hard promoter of the scientific method and free speech. He supports children's charities and plainly, he entertains. There may be a few things better than making an audience laugh and have a good time, but it's a short list. You clearly hate him, but he's not some robber baron.
kev3d 2 years ago
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badgenome 2 years ago
Al Franken actually has a brain, some courage and integrity. Better he not be connected with Cato Institute corporate dancing monkey errand boy Penn Jillette.
tonzimala 2 years ago
Penn's a "monkey errand boy" for the Cato institute? That's odd considering that Penn is pro abortion, anti capital punishment and pro pornography.
dave4248 2 years ago
You idiots really just can't fathom that someone might have opinion different than yours, can you?
Penn's a libertarian, of course he agrees with CATO.
You must have pretty low self-esteem if you think everyone but you is a corrupt sell-out.
avooslwuthoqquan 2 years ago
I was curious as hell about this. There is an unbelievable amount that Penn could do to help make the US a more libertarian place. (As far as targeted races and jury rights activism is concerned.) I'd love to talk with him sometime.
libertarianjury 2 years ago
What did he right to you about Libertarians??? Batard
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
you took alot of time to say "yea Al"
DrSho 2 years ago
Penn For President 2012
MetalpuppyUS 2 years ago
Al frankin Pfft!
Curas1 2 years ago
I obey the laws enforced by the government , no problem. but when cops make up laws on the spot ,very libertarian, I dont like it , but rich entertainers wouldnt understand that .I listened to you on the radio in chicago and most of it was just funny I listened to al and he was just plain smarter than you . the government protects me from people like you and you from people like me
thanksforthemessdick 2 years ago
"When cops make up laws on the spot, very liberarian." What are you taking about? That makes no sense at all. I would guess most cops are democrats... Why you might ask? Because they are union members and the democrats have been paying the Unions for votes since unions have been in business. You seem uneducated in the political sense so your forgiven.
brysonz 2 years ago
Penn you should run against Reid! The republicans have nobody lined up.
tahoesnow 2 years ago
I can't stand Al Franken. He's a complete scam/fraud.
GimbleTheWizard 2 years ago
...and I do live in Minnesota.
GimbleTheWizard 2 years ago
Who did he scam? Who did he fraud?
muzeus 2 years ago
We the people of Minnesota.
GimbleTheWizard 2 years ago