Someone here said the Titanic is an example of male chivalry. It was RASH MALE PRIDE to get across the ocean as fast as possible that led to it hitting an iceberg dummy. Exactly what I'm talking about. Secondly, if the Titanic is the only example to counterbalance the billions of rapes, collateral damage\poverty from war, gendercide (100M girls) etc that's pathetic. Back in the days of the Titanic women left first because women died having babies (still 500,000 a year today) & men valued that.
Tallying up the supposed crimes of various groups in society to justify your naked hatred and bigotry is just stupid. This has been done over and over to various groups throughout history. Feminism = hatred = you. It is especially sad at Christmas time when everyone else is considering kindness and caring. I suppose that you don't celebrate Christmas, because Jesus was male and not a member of your female master race.
When you were in Afghanistan you watched on satellite and did nothing as raped women were stoned to death. Meanwhile in 2009, 16,000 military rapes were reported. You don't fight for us. You fight for pay, pension, medals, fun, male pride. You cause almost all rape, assault, murder, war, torture, poverty, political corruption and do you stand up against all this that men do??? No. Hardly any vids of conscientious strong men. Just a pity party woman bash fest bc you are being abandoned by women.
@theplentysense You make a lot of posts - is there a point to them? It seems to me you're disappointed that men do not fight for women - well why the fuck should they? It's not as if women show any kind of gratitude for having the luxury of a roof over their heads and food in their bellies.
There are 3 billion women in the world - there is NOTHING special about being a woman. Your cunt is not an enchanted, sacred thing which entitles you to ANYTHING AT ALL.
@theplentysense You will never find peace while your heart is filled with hate. But maybe it will help you feel better if I apologize for all the women I've raped, beaten, and used. Although I don't remember doing any of those things, according to your flawless, unbiased, and relentlessly objective logic, I must have done all of those things and will no doubt do them many more times.
You obviously simply lie and ignore the statistics. Name one famous chivalrous act men did for women. Long silence eh. In most of the middle East and Asia women are treated like slaves but you men haven't even protested against it let alone fought for us, There has NEVER been a war to stop male brutality to women. You are not protectors and we know it. You really think if you say something enough it makes it true don't you. Like all pathological liars. Fess up buys. You're a mess and alone now.
Each thing you say is simply wrong. A famous chivalrous act is men dying on the Titanic so that life boats were reserved for women. In the vast majority of Asia & Middle East women are treated very well. In India, women have more rights than men. When a man is stoned to death, Western feminist media is silent. With all your hatred and fabricated justification for hate, you are a mess. Most women are not as screwed up as you. Do not pretend to speak for all women.
@theplentysense There has never been a war to stop suicide rates among men, to stop the dropping rates of single-mother households, to drop the number of innocent men prosecuted due to idiot women calling rape because they decided they made a mistake, yet there have been many movements to protect women from their so-called domestic abuse. Or haven't you noticed?
there was a study by the center of national disease control (or whatever its called) back in 2006 noting that 86 percent of teenagers who had committed suicide where young men. that is very similar to the 85 percent of homeless being men. interesting.
In the US it's estimated that over 50 million babies have been aborted by their own mothers. If you doubt that abortion is an atrocity have a look at any number of videos on youtube featuring what is very clearly a living human baby being torn to pieces alive for the convenience of the mother.
How many men have aborted their own children growing inside of them? Exactly 0.
Does this prove men are morally superior? Hardly. Neither gender is morally superior to the other.
U passed up middle about 20 yrs ago. What u mean is u campaign 4 your rights & we fems will campaign for ours and if we get more than u then too bad. If you want to educate, look at video where Canadian feminist senator says fems (stop campaigning for misandry!) need to quit skewering DV statistics. Watch video on single parent mothers (the truth about single parenting). The whole point of my comment was 2 ask u if fems r willing 2 give up rights (illegal rights) 2 come back 2 the middle?
When a woman goes to court & says, I need 1500 per mo. so children & I can live like we are accustomed too. Judge says, ok but law changed yesterday. I have lottery drum w/3 white balls for women & 3 blue (usually are) balls for men. He turns tumbler & blue ball falls out. Sorry, your husb gets the kids & you have to pay 1500 per mo. She replies, I only make 2500 per mo. He says, get use to it, men have for fifty yrs. I just cut divorce rate in half over night. Best interests of kids, right??
I got this femi-nazi fired from her job !!! It was so funny, she liked to smoke pot, so I called her employer. She failed the drug test and was walked out to her car. Always glad to do my part in snuffing out feminism. And, don't EVER have kids with a femi-nazi. Find a real woman from places like China, Iran or Mexico. Do NOT have kids with an American woman. Just let them get old and go away.
I and most of those viewing this video cannot claim to have thorough knowledge of all (or even most) of the cultures of the world. The video is intended to be about Western culture of today. Misandry may be a problem in many non-Western countries (such as India), but few have the depth of knowledge to debate this. People make claims about various countries, but I cannot know if these claims are true or false, so I stick to what I know (Western countries of today).
Feminists hate chivalry. At least all the ones I've known do. Chivalry is an enemy of equality, as it sets apart the genders. And these women really don't like being put on pedestals and treated like they are weak and needing a resuer.
As far as criminal accusation goes, women are more likely to be accused of writing bad checks, men are more likely to be accuse of robbery. Same same.
Once again women butt in to silence men. Women do not speak for men. Women's emotionalism is intended to crowd out men, to invade and break their group cameraderie. Men disperse as individuals elsewhere, and women win.
The irony is that, despite all the slagging against feminism, whenever a feminist *does* try to give air time to the issues and problems faced by men in the existing gender culture she's accused of trying to emasculate and feminize men. You told them to stay out, and when they do you accuse them of misandry.
The problem is that when I make a video about Men's Issues, nobody wants to think about Men's Issues. Instead they focus on feminism. Yes, feminism is mentioned, but it is a fairly minor part of the video.
What do you think about the devaluing of men's lives such as in the Titanic or war (or the Roman games)? How can the justice system be fixed so that men receive equal treatment under the law? When will dads get custody as often as moms?
I'm kinda quoting Warren Farrell here but . . . women are encouraged to be seen as "Sex Objects". It's all they're supposed to strive for- to look good, marry UP, and if you can't do this, you are derided. Men are encouraged to be seen as "Staus/Wallet Objects". It's all they're supposed to strive for- to work hard (until you get sick, ideally), marry a Pretty Girl, pay for her in everything- and if you can't do this, you are derided. Thank Gods my (17 year) relationship is nothing like that.
-cont so the society are slowly starting to accept that men can be victims (tabu) and women can be the perpetrators (tabu). So on this MRM are doing not a good job a but a outstanding work.
the video criticizes 'feminism' for creating a victim scenario causing women to 'spring to action'. How is that different from what the video does: men as victims, must spring to action?
@poodlesusan it is not different, but people need also to understand that men can and are victims to. Victimism is not something unique to the female gender. We need to remove the victim status from women as class (ideologically speaking) and expanding it to men. Then we may get a new light on the various social situations and from there move to the real equality. Feminism is just to one sided, and lack the overall picture.
How does the "men's movement" avoid the negative outcomes of "feminism": alienating the sexes from one another, propagating disharmony & even spreading hate? Does the men's movement acknowledge sex crimes by men far outnumber those by women, esp. re: pedophilia? Does the men's movement acknowledge war crimes by men far outnumber those by women? Does the men's movement acknowledge damage done in the name of "brotherhood"? Does the men's movement honor and respect women?
"propagating disharmony & even spreading hate?" haha. That is exactly what you are doing. First remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove a splinter from someone else's.
@proudguy How am I doing either? I started by asking how the men's movement avoids negative outcomes of feminism. Obviously I acknowledge problems on both sides. There are victims on both sides, and on both sides are those exploiting victims and injustice to their own ends. This video criticizes the feminist movement for doing exactly what it does: start from a premise of victimhood.
@poodlesusan as u said before, mostly of the crimes are made by men. Are u sure about this? because all the non biased research are clear, the gap between predatory male and females are closing. Every year more and more people come out to the light and denounce 'female violence'. There are still long way to do. But something are happen, like 'shelters for women' are becoming gender neutral, there are specialiced groups who help men who got sexual abused, ect ect. -cont
@poodlesusan How can women preform war crimes if we avoid sending them to war? When society willfully excuses women who have sex with boys why would you conclude that women preform less sex crimes? When society accepts women using men for money, sex, and basic control over their lives, how can you claim that the feminist movement has actually empowered women? True self respect should never come from taking it from someone else, that's the point. That statement applies both ways
@darrekw 'Avoiding sending them to war' is part & parcel of gender bias. Society 'willfully excuses' pedophiles of both genders--victims are often blamed, child rapists are often defended by fellow church members, family, spouses, etc. Pedophilia is not a gender issue. It is an issue of child exploitation. Likewise people using each other is not a gender issue. I did NOT claim the feminist movement has empowered women. I agree about taking away another's self respect working both ways.
@darrekw Absolutely, the best comment on this site including the 4 I made. I would like 2 add 2 your comment, true self respect (and *equality* which fems say they want is a lie) should never come from taking it from someone else. They (fems) have been taking self respect an equality from men 4 about 50 yrs now & when we start pushing back fems worry about the **negative outcomes** 4 society. What hypocrites. U can't b a misogynist without being a sexist. U can't b a fem without being a sexist.
Women abuse children more frequently than men. Women kill more children than men also. Sexual abuse of children is far more likely when there is NO FATHER AROUND.
Why would any movement except feminism acknoledge and embrace falsehoods as gospel. Check facts before spouting off please.
PS any disrespect you see here is NOT because you are woman it is because you are a fool. There are enough of those in both genders
@poodlesusan Check with the CDC, the FBI, or google Will Farrel who started out a feminists and tried to prove men were more violent and could not. 3 times he repeated his studies and teh same conclusion each time.
Geez, didnèt think you needed a man to do the legwork for you.
@poodlesusan anti child abuse pro abortation lol! women say abortation goes on anyway and its a womans right to do what she pleases with her body so how about willing prositutes. its a disgrace feminism has surrendered europe to islam now they want to cause more trouble for the west, when they have finally destroyed the west how will the victorious east treat women, yeah thats what i though
Men should apologize for being men, before demanding equal rights and respect? That's dumb. I am proud to be a man. Why don't you acknowledge all the evils that woman have committed. Then you will be purified enough to join our discussion? That is silly.
@proudguy In your response to poodlesusan the obviousness of your sexism is revealed. I'd still like to see a response to the vast number of sex crimes that involve men as the perpetrators which she brought up and you conveniently ignored,
and a list of the evils that women have committed that rival those than men have done since the beginning of time
It is obvious that you are a gender bigot who hates men. It is ridiculous to tally up great lists of crimes throughout history and then say that the group with the larger list does not deserve basic human rights. That would be a neverending debate & distraction. Also, this is a standard tactic used by NAZIs, Serbians, Stalinists etc to take away rights from identifiable groups.
I believe that everyone is deserving of rights and dignity, not just women.
@Uchihasasuk5 - Tell me, why do feminists always leave out the negative acts women have done in their videos yet expect men's rights activists to admit to the negative acts men have done? What you're wanting to do is compare and judge the genders on which one is superior based on which one has done the least amount of negative acts. How do you, as a feminist, expect to ever achieve gender equality by creating the image of "woman = good and right" and "man = bad and wrong"?
@Uchihasasuk5 The list would b endless, all abortions decided by women, 70% divorces filed by women. 59% of child abuse by moms (Statistical Abstract of US 1987), 54% of kids murdered by moms (Daly & Wilson 1988). "Most unreported crime is not wife beating it is husb beating" (Langley & Levy 1977). Black husbands at greater risk of spousal homocide than black women (Mercy & Salzman 1989). Women get full r primary custody 97% just because they sit down 2 pee.
In addition to proudguys answer, you also have a enormous flaw in your thinking; what one man or woman does not hole the rest accoutnable just on basis of their sex. While it is true that its more common for men to rape than women, it is equally true that its vastly more common for men NOT to rape than to rape. Men as a group should not be defined by what a extremely small minority does. (and how have other more common denominators as druguse and mental illness).
interesting you should mention pedophilia, its becoming more and more known that women are almost as often pedophiles as men; they simply get away with it easier since it dosent fit in with the view we have of women.
Just recently the police caught a pedophile-network in Sweden containing 21 women and 1 man. It was worht 1! days of media coverage and never spoken of again. We simply DONT want to know that women can abuse children, and does.
@poodlesusan according to David Finkelhor’s numerous studies, women’s sexual abuse of children is much more serious than men’s because women are more likely to have abused more children for a longer period of time (Murray 215), are more intrusive, and more likely to use higher rates of force than men (Moulden 388). Finkelhor found that in cases of daycare molestation, more than 60% of children who were molested, were molested by women (Murray 213).
Heather Moulden’s 2007 follow-up to Finkelhor’s research verifies, “despite a social reluctance to acknowledge female sexual abusers, reports suggest that they account for between 3% and 15% of all sexual offences” (387). However, as Richard Tewksbury reports, that number is probably much higher since “female sex offending is […] acknowledged as possibly less likely to be detected or reported” (30)
@poodlesusan Despite the general reluctance to pursue female suspects and to incarcerate them (Moulden 199), criminal acts by female offenders have reached a ratio of 6:1 compared to male criminal acts (Palmero 30). Moulden’s study of female sex offenders found that “females offended against younger victims and were more violent as compared with male abusers”
@s031720 without prosecution or incarceration numbers validating your claim, your claim is largely speculative. Rape, including child rape, is vastly under-reported. "reports suggest" leaves open so much speculation, that to conclude with your claim is dishonest.
@poodlesusan in what way would prosecution and incarceration be less speculative?
You come here demanding that men own up to "their" crimes, and you come here demanding facts. But YOU refuse to own up to equivalent "female" crimes, you do not accept facts and you dont present facts. Your credibility and honesty is very much in question, and I think anyone following this dialogue can agree with proudguys first estimation; you are a genderbiggot, a feminist sexist and your are far from alone.
@s031720 Oh, and if you take issue with the media and/or criminal justice systems not holding women accountable enough, look at the gender balance or lack thereof within those. If the media & criminal justice systems are male-dominated, the reluctance to raise awareness of, detect & prosecute male OR female pedophiles begins to turn back, once again, toward a serious problem of male-favored systems. Of course men's rights extremists strive to ignore & hide this state of affairs.
@poodlesusan according to David Finkelhor’s numerous studies, women’s sexual abuse of children is much more serious than men’s because women are more likely to have abused more children for a longer period of time (Murray 215), are more intrusive, and more likely to use higher rates of force than men (Moulden 388). Finkelhor found that in cases of daycare molestation, more than 60% of children who were molested, were molested by women (Murray 213).
@s031720 gender imbalance in any structure can be a source of problems. Look at the Catholic Church and its pedophile scandals: a structure controlled strictly only by men & requiring them to not marry explains specifically the occurrence of male homosexual pedophilia. Pedophilia is largely an issue of domination, & the male gender has a long and violent history of such.
@poodlesusan and look at the childcare system and the pedophile scandals; a strucrue controlled strictly by women and the idea that women "are caregivers" explains why noone questions why the kindergartenlady cleans Lisas vagina so thoroughly.
Pedohpilia is largely an issue of traumatized individuals repeating and perputating what was done to them, and god knows there are many sexually abused girls today that will be pedophiles tomorrow. And noone will acknowledge it because noone wants to.
@s031720 at once slinging epithets 'gender biggot', 'feminist sexist', & yet acknowledging my calling for men & women to work together...you seem quite confused not only about your own position, but that of others, and thus you are the natural counterpart to hysterics within the so-called 'feminist movement': doing more harm than good, & meanwhile doing nothing to free anyone from cruel gender roles. and your 'no one acknowledges it...no one wants to' attitude isn't helping any.
@poodlesusan Ah, but you ARE biggotted and sexist when demanding of others what you do not contribute yourself, measuring men to other standards for no other reason for them beeing men. Also you argue from a theoretical standpoint of radical feminism, ie male-dominated structures, while not aknowledging female-dominated structures play equal role in the system, and you want cooperation but only on your terms.
@s031720 the standards to measure by are kindness, equality, and consideration for others. It is FACT that historically and in the majority, power structures have been built and maintained by and for male domination. To be willing male OR female victim of power structures assigning cruel gender roles makes one, male OR female, an enemy of equality. The problem is not gender! The problem is cruel gender roles assigned to BOTH men and women by power structures!
@poodlesusan That is not fact. That is feminist THEORY. It is a view designed to cast guild on men-as-a-group and free women-as-a-group from responsibility for a system thats the consequence of a need to protect women as a way to secure the survival of society, equally a product of men and women, where women payed with their freedom and men payed with their security and health. You as an individual just dont seem to be able to take responsibility for your part the same way you demand of others.
@poodlesusan In sweden we have more swedish journalists than male, and so it is femaledominated. Law is male dominated; and its to the same effect. It dosent seem to matter, making your argument unvalid.
Also you talk as if the mensmovement share the motives and teories of the feministmovement, but only have diffrent goals, that is not true. You talk about a gendersystem that favours men, the mensmovement talk about a class-system that favours upperclass man AND women, in diffrent ways.
@poodlesusan When you claim something is male-favoured, you make invicible that its not ANY man that is favoured, but a select few. You also make invicible that a select few WOMEN also are favoured by that system. When modern feminism got invaded by uppterclass academic women, the movements goals and motives changed in a way as to hide their on conflicting affiliations and make MEN the enemy; obscuring the obvious class-issue.
@s031720 More than male-favored, most political, social and economic structures are male-dominated. Obscuring the problems of male domination by scapegoating women's efforts for equality requires the utmost denial of reality. It is a delusion to blame women or a women's movement for male subordination, because the world's power structures have been made and maintained by men.
@poodlesusan The ratio of men/women in the institutions of society equals the catchment area, at least in sweden and probably everywere. if 70 men and 30 women compete for 10 jobs, 7 of them will be men and 3 women; furthermore there are no judical restraints for women, they compete on the exact same premises. This is fair. If women want more representation they need to apply for it; if we accept meritocracy as an ideal, affirmative action is discrimination against men.
@s031720 what if there are plenty more men who are more "fit" or proficient at the job? would it be considered sex discrimination when the company is merely out to find who is best for their business?
1) By not being sex-racist bigots. Men invented the abstractions of justice and equality. If anyone can do it, MEN can. Females sure as hell have failed. Prior to feminist governance, male leadership exercised balance between the sexes, not sameness for obvious practical functional reasons, such as division of labor, but balance of respect and love.
2) Female pedophilia and child abuse often outnumber those by men. So STFU with your evil slander of males. Your petty 'tallying' of poor behavior by 'groups' is sex-racist. What is the point of such a tally? What is the logical consequence of such a tally? The apology by all hispanics for committing more muggins than blacks? Your approach is, retarded. Females do a lot of fucked up shit. You probably don't notice it because you are biased to focus on the target of your hate.
2 Continued) If I acknowledge that men as a group commit more rape than females as a group, will you acknowledge that females commit more emotional abuse of their partners?
3) Do you acknowledge that females have been sheltered from having to engage in the horrors of war, and that when they do play central roles, they engage no less destructive activities than males?
@FingSpaghettiMonster It's men who created armies and conducted wars, though. Again, the problem turns back to one of male domination. Men, not women, are sometimes their own worst enemies. Men and women are beautifully different, beautifully compatible, and beautifully equal. We should be fighting against inhumane gender roles and their resulting power structures, NOT EACH OTHER.
@poodlesusan And feminists are often womens worst enemies. But strike male domination and replace it with gendersociety and i agree fullheartedly with you. Men and women should work together to make the world a better place to live in, and just as men have been made to see the hardships and suffering of women, its time for women to see the hardships and suffering men have gone through. Without the shame and blame tactic that only serve the purpose to hide the responsibilities of women.
4) What damage done in the name of "brotherhood" are you talking about? Seen any paternity fraud lately? Or men deprived of custody of their own flesh and blood children? Do you acknowledge the damage done in the name of the yaya "sisterhood"?
5) Do you or feminism respect and honor MEN? Have women ever genuinely honored, respected and loved MEN? Men have historically honored, respected and loved women to absurd extents, employing their entire lives as disposable instruments to that purpose. Vice versa?
That feminism has successfully demonized such a creature says an unfortunate amount about female character. What men should do in the future is honor, respect and love women TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY EARN and DESERVE IT.
My experience in the family courts tells me that as a man and a father I am absolutely expendable. My ex's mother is a feminist. I know she was well connected. It nearly took my life. I'm not the only one.
As much as equality issues is the right way to go, it will not work because that is how the feminist movement started and they will change it into more rights for women. The only way to make this work is to complain about their crimes against men. BTW, there are more women in prison today then ever before, think about that. P.S. change the music!
(cont) It's the same kind of sexist stereotyping that assumes that a man who cries or expresses his feelings, or doubts, is a pussy. I think if you want to discuss these issues you should do it without stereotyping the other sex, just as you would, I'm sure, prefer your sex wasn't stereotyped.
(cont) I think in an otherwise good video, approaching important issues that need to be discussed, that particular kind of stereotyping that women are just emotional, over reacting people, lacking good intention, sets the seriousness that one should take in your video, back.
@genkimonki U say noble things, will u back it up? Will u support lottery 4 child support (can't b more fair than letting machine decide), will u denounce primary aggressor laws that would b found illegal if applied 2 women? Will u speak out against selective prosecution of men vs women re: DV & false rape? Will u petition that body bags from wars b 1/2 women instead of 98% men? Will u scream that affirmative action insist that 50% of all coal miners b women? If not, fems =bigotry period.
@MLJ1219 It's not bigotry. You fight for your rights and we'll fight for ours. Everyone's just trying to meet in the middle. A lot of women aren't in the military or coal mining because they're going for more traditional standards of women taking care of the children. Things aren't going to fix themselves over night. Men and women's issues aren't something that can be fixed so easily, so the best thing to do is keep campaigning and educating people.
I agree with a lot of the issues that you spoke about in this video. I agree with men getting a raw deal compared to women in divorce and criminal cases, and I believe there should be a lot more attention paid to men's emotional well beings. What I don't agree is your "Men spring to action because they're chivalrous where as women spring to action because of fear and outrage."
The problem with this video and many others is that you don't mention that this is about seeing males as predators and females as victims.
eg: anyone in thier right minds can see that telling boys that they have to 'respect females' and telling girls to 'demand respect from males' has nothing to do with equality and everthing to do with seeing males as the potential bullies and females as the potential victims.
All because they are too afraid of men to accept that they are not predators.
Heh, we don't need mens issues. What we need is equality issues. Focus on areas where reality shows an unjust inequity and fix it. Stop trying to over gender equality on either side. All adults deserve the same rights.
Men's Issues are equality issues. There can be no equality if we only look at women's issues and ignore men's issues. To me, that is common sense.
Men's issues are areas in which men are discriminated against, such as in child custody and visitation after divorce, gender profiling in domestic violence, laws that promote false allegations against men etc. Men's issues are men wanting to have the same rights and respect as women. Men's issues are equality issues.
Excellent video. A good terse summary of the major issues facing the men's rights movement.
And I'm glad you specifically point out how chivlary was (and sadly still is) a system that exemplified the valuing of women's lives over men's. I think some progress has been made though. It no longer seems politcally viable, for instance, to enstate the draft, despite two major wars going on for almost a decade now. Perhaps we are starting to care a little more about men.
You say toward the end of your video that males do not have "positive role models". Last time I checked, all the presidents of the United States have been male, majority of representatives and senators are male, many new anchors and hosts are male, almost all preachers, for almost all religions, are male, most doctors are males, most CEO's are male. What about star athletes? What about celebrities like Bruce Willis, Bon Jovi, etc? Are they not positive role models? Just wondering...
When I was a boy, I barely knew the name of the President, let alone seeing him as role model. I could not name even one CEO, Representative or Senator. I knew nothing about that. I had no personal connection with my doctor. I knew nothing about him.
My role models were my parents, teachers, and TV characters. These are the male role models that are lacking today. Parents & teachers now are mostly female. Male TV characters are buffoons. Willis and Bon Jovi? How old?
@proudguy true how can somebody with good mental health consider POLITICS as ROLE MODEL's????? btw Bruce wills and Bon Jovi are old men....who are the younger one????
@punkfalcon Most men hit the "stone wall" of middle managment, rarely any of them actually become CEOs. Nuns are roughly equivalent to preachers, and many would argue the value of striving for a position that waxes on about some kind of super-being that created us all in 6 days than had to rest. Frankly, who cares if all news anchors were male, even tho that isn't true. and i dont know about bruce willis but how is bon jovi a good role model "i'll be your superman tonight" ugh! what banal crap!
@punkfalcon When did lying, adulterous, embezzling A-Holes become "positive" role models. Even the celebrities mentioned usually take on roles that cast the men as secondary partners in sexual relationships, that's a "negative" role model. When are we going to see truly equal partners? When are we going to see guys that aren't being lead around by their private parts like that's somehow respectable to the males. Every guy I know seems to think that this IS what being a male is about, WRONG
"We MUST encourage men to seek mental health care when they are depressed." What? You are kidding. In pseudo-science hands? Worst than the problem itself. If a man loose his confidence, all other men laughing at. LOL
Your problem is your initial assumption that my video is just an attack on feminism. Your wrong assumption lead to a wrong interpretation.
Yes, feminism is bad. It promotes negative stereotyping of men & boys and has led to human rights abuses.
The video is about the Men's Movement (see title) and wrong thinking that the movement wants to overcome. The Roman part shows that men have always had a raw deal long before feminism. Thus feminism is only one part of the problem.
@proudguy Not all feminist promote negative stereotypes of men. although, I do agree that it has created misandry. But many of these feminist have seen men disadvantages and now they also seek to change it. Men studies is still rather new (if I remember right, it started in the 90's), so many people it isnt a problem.
@piewackett1 it is a analogy to show how men as a group is seen by the majority. Not only women. More than patriarchy I think the problem lays in the system who stereotype men as superbeins and perfect. If u r a man, dont need help, if u r man u r closer to a machine than to a human beins.
@Kenshiroit @Kenshiroit I think we maybe be talking past in each other in that we both agree that is is indeed the current flawed system, our society, hurting all genders.
The underlying bankruptcy of ideas and stereotypes , the culture of hierarchy, of domination, institutionalized racism and false male warrior archetypes:,these are the building blocks of patriacrhy with misogyny as its cornerstone.
@piewackett1 yes I agree, but I am skeptic on this abstract unreachable enemy, the so called patriarchy. This "enemy" today has the same status as satan for the religious people. And like satan it exist only in books. U cant see it, u cant feel it, u cant hear it. But u know his there. Ok, beside that, everybody are oppress women and men alike. Yesterday and nowaday misoginy goes hand to hand with misandry like sister and brothers. It is always a pleasure to exchange ideas :-)
@piewackett1 I As an MRA, I do agree that partriarchy was no friend to the vast majority of men who were lower on the male dominance hierarchy. There was a tiny minority of power elites and the deluded gimps that served them that treated both women AND men like shit. Men's right's activism is often about the fight for the rights of commen men, but there are some areas that apply to all men, even rich men. In the last little while tho, feminism joined in, no wonder male suicide rates soared
family courts aren't making it so that ' dad ran off" it's that according to society standards. That MEN! set a long time ago, women are better care givers than men. WHich is a lie. Men had positive role models that ficilitated gender steryotypes and gender roles. That's why it was extended to women. REally the scale just keeps tippping back and forth. What needs to happen is everything is equal down the middle. Radical feminists are wrong, and the MRAs are wrong. I'm a women btw.
The point made by the video is that women will claim that the father ran away from his children when in fact she has not allowed the father to see his children.
When a mother denies access between father and children, the children only know what the mother tells them. Fathers have gone to prison simply for waving at their children from the other side of the street. Children do not understand about the law. They believe that dad would visit if he wanted to. Mom controls access.
You are a feminist. You just spew brainless stereotypes and shameless gender bigotry. I have heard it all of my life. It is garbage.
People used to claim that Blacks were inherently violent and that Mexicans were lazy and Jews were greedy. Feminists are gender bigots. This is their time to get away with it, but people are getting wise to their hate.
@proudguy Um......you got one thing right. I am a femenist. Thing is I'm the type of femenist that wants literally equality. I concede that there are women out there that keep the children from their husband for whatever their reasons are, but I also concede that it is extrememly wrong for them to do so. But you must also take into accountt hat what I said was NOT a steryotypte. Pick up a dictionary you ignorant fool. Before the era of womens rights, men set the standards that women should live
@proudguy (continued) that women should live by. So anything that occurs now basically comes back to them. SOCIETY say men should be the provider and women the care giver, but in divorce the women get the kids and the men bitch. Well, um hun you went by societies standards and didn't want to do both parts of provider and caregiver, nor have a wife that would do both. But again I concede that this may be an extraneous situation. Your examples are in no way similar to my responses.
There was no "before women's rights". Women always had lots of rights and privileges and considerable input into our cultural and legal traditions.
"now basically comes back to them". Feminists have been running things for a long time now (40 years at least), so they are to blame for the mess we are in now.
@proudguy This is one part of the problem. We have so much inequality, but feminists dont only focus on the disadvantaged women, which they also still are.
I am also a feminist. Well, I believe in conflict theory and symbolic interactionism. Your view on feminism is of that that was very often in the media. I am not saying it hasn't caused misandry, but maybe you should also include the media into your accusations.
@proudguy I am also a feminist. Well, I believe in conflict theory and symbolic interactionism. Your view on feminism is of that that was very often in the media. I am not saying it hasn't caused misandry, but maybe you should also include the media into your accusations.
@proudguy (cont) This video is proposterous in that it takes two to tango. In the REAL world, if a court makes an unjust decision, you appeal, appeal, appeal. I think society is becoming not only wise to the RADICAL femenist hate, but to the pathetic ppl like you that don't fully comprehend the situation
Really worrying violence is that exerted BY WOMAN.
Such violence goes from "inocent" slaps to men (as we can see in many movies and sitcoms, and that always are considered a "game"), to the ruthless abortion, going through sexual harassment to men (not to get his sexual favors, but to strip him of his assets) and false DV charges.
Right on man, right on. It's a woman's world, and it's up to those men brave enough to re spark the nature of men before another generation of boys who are raised by mothers connected to a female system of prejudice in social determination (right word? they largely influence social norms and roles) before the way of man is forgotten. We are conned into being and acting like "men", a term pre determined and shaped by those perpetuating the stereotype. We are limited to be overcome.
This is why western women hate it when men go for foreign women. They know that they are better for us and won't screw us over for our money and will respect us, unlike western women who have been trained to use the legal system against us. The age of chivalry is gone in the west, lets look for it elsewhere until western women get the picture
@MaguireMart Please, I hear no western women complaining about men going for foreign women. Most western women could care less. Men seem to think women are shaking in their boots over losing men. If this video is true, then women could care less what men do right? If you're too weak and need a subordinate female, feel free to go to any eastern country and do it. No western woman will give a shit whether you do or not!
All the women, I know, are opposed to the idea of 'mail order brides' or men specifically looking for foreign women. Men sometimes look elsewhere for a wife believing that these women do not carry as big a chip on their shoulders as most local women.
It is mistake IMO though, because these women often use these men to enter the country. Then they divorce just as easily as local women, taking the children, assets, child support, spousal support, pensions etc.
@proudguy I believe women are more opposed to mail order brides simply because it diminishes the 'value' of women as if they are market commodities of some sort...almost like legal prostitution...but it's like you say, you don't know what you're getting into and arranged marriages that take place in other countries may benefit in some ways but on the whole I think it's an unhappy institution when there's no feelings involved.
well... the good thing is you have friends. I'm not sure if I can fix everything, but from the media concerns and presenting strong positive male characters in the media, I may have some influence there. I can prove that you can still make money and present a good message and hopefully shift the direction of the media. It may not do anything for the millennials but I think we can still salvage the next generation.
Thanks for making this video. I too make video regarding abused men and also provide a site for men to workout out these issues and help each other. More of us need to stand up and be heard and make it known that women and men are needing equal love, treatment, and fairness in this society. AGain thanksf or making this video and check out mine if you might be so kind ;)
This is a patriarchal world and it is MEN at the helm so ur gripe is not with women. U shoukld take issue with the fact that the women r vicitms of the same system. We now have 2 work and raise a family and be the good wife. SO PLZ stop this non sense ! If u want to chnage things - women r not the problem. The elites have created and promoted systemically to break down the family and family values. I think ur very misguided! But I am sure u wont listen
@Badwolf182 A patriachal world? Maybe in some places but not in America, Canada, or Britain. Even with men in positons of much leadership, the laws, family court system, social support and services are biased in favor of the woman.
Where did you get your statistics and information re: bias in courts? I would like to cite the information in something on which I am working. Thanks!
I totally agree with video... I have faced the system and luckly for me the case fell apart, I could not believe one womans lie and one angry feminst female cop had the power to destroy my life. I have survived and am slowly building my life back....why does society allow this to happen?
@proudguy Your commentary is very accurate and very true. Males don't have as many role models on tv etc. But, as a feminist myself, I think that you misunderstand some of the concepts of it. I'm a feminist because of the years of oppression women have faced over time, and to be proud and not tolerate a backwards way of looking at women. I am not a psycho who hates men or thinks they don't deserve rights. Feminists typically believe in equal rights for both men and women. Good video, and thanks
Males have a lot of role models on TV, but not in female-oriented primetime TV. Even chewing gum commercials show men rammed in the groin by a , well, ram.
Apparently, the target audience of women and metrosexual men find this funny.
American white women are more oppressed now than ever before ! Stop the madness.
Intellectual Debate?Feminist writings are often misandristic -but that hate is liberation... right? HOW IS FEMINISM WRONG?? Google: Dr. Warren Farrell, Dr. Murray Straus,Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers,Dr. Helen Smith,Dr. Katherine K. Young, Dr. Julia Hislop,Dr. Stephen Baskerville,Carrie L. Lucas,Dr. Donald Dutton,Dr. Martin S. Fiebert. Feminist rebuttle - "ANTI-FEMINIST!!" Brilliant! YouTube: Female Sexual Abuse,TVontario Men,Maleness and Equality,Dr. Baskerville War on Fatherhood,Wage Gap Myth
You are obviously hitting the nerve here with the likes of 'DianaBoston' who vomit such blind male-hate.
Anti-male programming is obviously everywhere now, good to see some of us still believe that most men are certainly beautiful and have great benefit to offer everyone even Ms. Andry types like 'DianaBoston'.
Do you even stop to think while you type out this nonsense? MRA's are nothing more than males who don't like women and feminists who are gaining space in the public sphere. It's really a simple thing. MRA's resent women gaining political power to affect change in the lives of girls and women. Feminists rally to keep their hard won victories like the right to choose. They challenge the injustice of sweatshop labour. They challenge the male dominated institutions so minorities can have a shot.
2. They challenge the military industrial complex and its wars that send young people off to their deaths. They challenge any notion that implies that women and other minorities are less than the traditional white male. They challenge the media. Feminism is not a one size fits all. This backlash has already been written about decades ago. It's taken a fresh face, calls itself the MRM and seeks to malign the rights of women. Women aren't going to give those rights up. They were hard won.
3. MRA's calling women and feminists 'cunts' and 'whores' and all other such misogynistic insults show them for what they are. There is no reasonable discussion with an MRA because there is nothing reasonable about the MRM. You want battered men shelters? Build them and staff them just like feminists did. You want to control your reproduction: donate to getting your own pill or other methods. No feminists are getting in your way to do that.
I thank you for the motivational speech. However, let's just get a few things straightened up. Women didn't develop the pill. The scientist leading this effort in the 50's were men and the companies that funded the research were run by men. Also, most shelters for women are funded or subsidized by tax dollars, of which are generated by men (and women).
3: The Chivalric code was an exclusively aristocratic medieval European set of ideals. Famous 'Chivalric' men killed thousands of people, mainly peasants across the known world.
Feminsm has nothing to do with 'chivalry'. A recent study asked women what they most feared about men: "that they will kill us".
If a recent study concludes that what women fear most about men is that they will kill them, when the Dept. of Justice reports only about 1500 female deaths at the hands of intimate partners, it is clear that an ideology has vastly overexaggerated their paranoia of the evil of the other half of the human race.
@Gogonostop Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States.
I notice you didn't bother to list all the other crimes listed on their website though. you may think that number is low that you listed as far as murders but those stats are from 10 years ago.Violence occurs in many forms and if you go back and look at their website, the results in reference to DV are staggering. I can't imagine how high the stats are now.
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Does any body know where I can find movies, books, music as well as TV programs containing anti - misandrist themes?
elderberry9 3 weeks ago
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elderberry9 3 weeks ago
Someone here said the Titanic is an example of male chivalry. It was RASH MALE PRIDE to get across the ocean as fast as possible that led to it hitting an iceberg dummy. Exactly what I'm talking about. Secondly, if the Titanic is the only example to counterbalance the billions of rapes, collateral damage\poverty from war, gendercide (100M girls) etc that's pathetic. Back in the days of the Titanic women left first because women died having babies (still 500,000 a year today) & men valued that.
theplentysense 1 month ago
@theplentysense
Tallying up the supposed crimes of various groups in society to justify your naked hatred and bigotry is just stupid. This has been done over and over to various groups throughout history. Feminism = hatred = you. It is especially sad at Christmas time when everyone else is considering kindness and caring. I suppose that you don't celebrate Christmas, because Jesus was male and not a member of your female master race.
proudguy 1 month ago
When you were in Afghanistan you watched on satellite and did nothing as raped women were stoned to death. Meanwhile in 2009, 16,000 military rapes were reported. You don't fight for us. You fight for pay, pension, medals, fun, male pride. You cause almost all rape, assault, murder, war, torture, poverty, political corruption and do you stand up against all this that men do??? No. Hardly any vids of conscientious strong men. Just a pity party woman bash fest bc you are being abandoned by women.
theplentysense 1 month ago
@theplentysense You make a lot of posts - is there a point to them? It seems to me you're disappointed that men do not fight for women - well why the fuck should they? It's not as if women show any kind of gratitude for having the luxury of a roof over their heads and food in their bellies.
There are 3 billion women in the world - there is NOTHING special about being a woman. Your cunt is not an enchanted, sacred thing which entitles you to ANYTHING AT ALL.
CHRLPTRSN 4 weeks ago
@theplentysense You will never find peace while your heart is filled with hate. But maybe it will help you feel better if I apologize for all the women I've raped, beaten, and used. Although I don't remember doing any of those things, according to your flawless, unbiased, and relentlessly objective logic, I must have done all of those things and will no doubt do them many more times.
elderberry9 3 weeks ago
You obviously simply lie and ignore the statistics. Name one famous chivalrous act men did for women. Long silence eh. In most of the middle East and Asia women are treated like slaves but you men haven't even protested against it let alone fought for us, There has NEVER been a war to stop male brutality to women. You are not protectors and we know it. You really think if you say something enough it makes it true don't you. Like all pathological liars. Fess up buys. You're a mess and alone now.
theplentysense 1 month ago
@theplentysense
Each thing you say is simply wrong. A famous chivalrous act is men dying on the Titanic so that life boats were reserved for women. In the vast majority of Asia & Middle East women are treated very well. In India, women have more rights than men. When a man is stoned to death, Western feminist media is silent. With all your hatred and fabricated justification for hate, you are a mess. Most women are not as screwed up as you. Do not pretend to speak for all women.
proudguy 1 month ago
@theplentysense There has never been a war to stop suicide rates among men, to stop the dropping rates of single-mother households, to drop the number of innocent men prosecuted due to idiot women calling rape because they decided they made a mistake, yet there have been many movements to protect women from their so-called domestic abuse. Or haven't you noticed?
1324354657687988 1 week ago
suck it feminists
TrueBlueCanuck 1 month ago
there was a study by the center of national disease control (or whatever its called) back in 2006 noting that 86 percent of teenagers who had committed suicide where young men. that is very similar to the 85 percent of homeless being men. interesting.
NWKklown 2 months ago
Atrocities of women?
In the US it's estimated that over 50 million babies have been aborted by their own mothers. If you doubt that abortion is an atrocity have a look at any number of videos on youtube featuring what is very clearly a living human baby being torn to pieces alive for the convenience of the mother.
How many men have aborted their own children growing inside of them? Exactly 0.
Does this prove men are morally superior? Hardly. Neither gender is morally superior to the other.
embracingreality 4 months ago
cite your sources plz
icecold99 4 months ago
U passed up middle about 20 yrs ago. What u mean is u campaign 4 your rights & we fems will campaign for ours and if we get more than u then too bad. If you want to educate, look at video where Canadian feminist senator says fems (stop campaigning for misandry!) need to quit skewering DV statistics. Watch video on single parent mothers (the truth about single parenting). The whole point of my comment was 2 ask u if fems r willing 2 give up rights (illegal rights) 2 come back 2 the middle?
MLJ1219 6 months ago
When a woman goes to court & says, I need 1500 per mo. so children & I can live like we are accustomed too. Judge says, ok but law changed yesterday. I have lottery drum w/3 white balls for women & 3 blue (usually are) balls for men. He turns tumbler & blue ball falls out. Sorry, your husb gets the kids & you have to pay 1500 per mo. She replies, I only make 2500 per mo. He says, get use to it, men have for fifty yrs. I just cut divorce rate in half over night. Best interests of kids, right??
MLJ1219 6 months ago
Good thing we have women who are pioneering things like nanotechnology, and synthetic biology and... oh wait
Roq999 7 months ago
I got this femi-nazi fired from her job !!! It was so funny, she liked to smoke pot, so I called her employer. She failed the drug test and was walked out to her car. Always glad to do my part in snuffing out feminism. And, don't EVER have kids with a femi-nazi. Find a real woman from places like China, Iran or Mexico. Do NOT have kids with an American woman. Just let them get old and go away.
p71280 8 months ago in playlist Men's Rights
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crypter27 8 months ago
@shaheena101
I and most of those viewing this video cannot claim to have thorough knowledge of all (or even most) of the cultures of the world. The video is intended to be about Western culture of today. Misandry may be a problem in many non-Western countries (such as India), but few have the depth of knowledge to debate this. People make claims about various countries, but I cannot know if these claims are true or false, so I stick to what I know (Western countries of today).
proudguy 9 months ago
Feminists hate chivalry. At least all the ones I've known do. Chivalry is an enemy of equality, as it sets apart the genders. And these women really don't like being put on pedestals and treated like they are weak and needing a resuer.
As far as criminal accusation goes, women are more likely to be accused of writing bad checks, men are more likely to be accuse of robbery. Same same.
CanadiaNecro1 9 months ago
Once again women butt in to silence men. Women do not speak for men. Women's emotionalism is intended to crowd out men, to invade and break their group cameraderie. Men disperse as individuals elsewhere, and women win.
JigOfTheDubGopher 9 months ago
The irony is that, despite all the slagging against feminism, whenever a feminist *does* try to give air time to the issues and problems faced by men in the existing gender culture she's accused of trying to emasculate and feminize men. You told them to stay out, and when they do you accuse them of misandry.
kaosgirl1303 10 months ago
@kaosgirl1303
The problem is that when I make a video about Men's Issues, nobody wants to think about Men's Issues. Instead they focus on feminism. Yes, feminism is mentioned, but it is a fairly minor part of the video.
What do you think about the devaluing of men's lives such as in the Titanic or war (or the Roman games)? How can the justice system be fixed so that men receive equal treatment under the law? When will dads get custody as often as moms?
proudguy 10 months ago
google avoiceformen
123yo123yo123 10 months ago 2
I'm kinda quoting Warren Farrell here but . . . women are encouraged to be seen as "Sex Objects". It's all they're supposed to strive for- to look good, marry UP, and if you can't do this, you are derided. Men are encouraged to be seen as "Staus/Wallet Objects". It's all they're supposed to strive for- to work hard (until you get sick, ideally), marry a Pretty Girl, pay for her in everything- and if you can't do this, you are derided. Thank Gods my (17 year) relationship is nothing like that.
LincolnMuadib 10 months ago
-cont so the society are slowly starting to accept that men can be victims (tabu) and women can be the perpetrators (tabu). So on this MRM are doing not a good job a but a outstanding work.
Kenshiroit 10 months ago
the video criticizes 'feminism' for creating a victim scenario causing women to 'spring to action'. How is that different from what the video does: men as victims, must spring to action?
poodlesusan 10 months ago
@poodlesusan it is not different, but people need also to understand that men can and are victims to. Victimism is not something unique to the female gender. We need to remove the victim status from women as class (ideologically speaking) and expanding it to men. Then we may get a new light on the various social situations and from there move to the real equality. Feminism is just to one sided, and lack the overall picture.
Kenshiroit 10 months ago
How does the "men's movement" avoid the negative outcomes of "feminism": alienating the sexes from one another, propagating disharmony & even spreading hate? Does the men's movement acknowledge sex crimes by men far outnumber those by women, esp. re: pedophilia? Does the men's movement acknowledge war crimes by men far outnumber those by women? Does the men's movement acknowledge damage done in the name of "brotherhood"? Does the men's movement honor and respect women?
poodlesusan 10 months ago
@poodlesusan
"propagating disharmony & even spreading hate?" haha. That is exactly what you are doing. First remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove a splinter from someone else's.
proudguy 10 months ago
@proudguy How am I doing either? I started by asking how the men's movement avoids negative outcomes of feminism. Obviously I acknowledge problems on both sides. There are victims on both sides, and on both sides are those exploiting victims and injustice to their own ends. This video criticizes the feminist movement for doing exactly what it does: start from a premise of victimhood.
poodlesusan 10 months ago
@poodlesusan as u said before, mostly of the crimes are made by men. Are u sure about this? because all the non biased research are clear, the gap between predatory male and females are closing. Every year more and more people come out to the light and denounce 'female violence'. There are still long way to do. But something are happen, like 'shelters for women' are becoming gender neutral, there are specialiced groups who help men who got sexual abused, ect ect. -cont
Kenshiroit 10 months ago
@poodlesusan How can women preform war crimes if we avoid sending them to war? When society willfully excuses women who have sex with boys why would you conclude that women preform less sex crimes? When society accepts women using men for money, sex, and basic control over their lives, how can you claim that the feminist movement has actually empowered women? True self respect should never come from taking it from someone else, that's the point. That statement applies both ways
darrekw 10 months ago 2
@darrekw 'Avoiding sending them to war' is part & parcel of gender bias. Society 'willfully excuses' pedophiles of both genders--victims are often blamed, child rapists are often defended by fellow church members, family, spouses, etc. Pedophilia is not a gender issue. It is an issue of child exploitation. Likewise people using each other is not a gender issue. I did NOT claim the feminist movement has empowered women. I agree about taking away another's self respect working both ways.
poodlesusan 10 months ago
@darrekw Absolutely, the best comment on this site including the 4 I made. I would like 2 add 2 your comment, true self respect (and *equality* which fems say they want is a lie) should never come from taking it from someone else. They (fems) have been taking self respect an equality from men 4 about 50 yrs now & when we start pushing back fems worry about the **negative outcomes** 4 society. What hypocrites. U can't b a misogynist without being a sexist. U can't b a fem without being a sexist.
MLJ1219 6 months ago
@poodlesusan Check your facts sunshine.
Women abuse children more frequently than men. Women kill more children than men also. Sexual abuse of children is far more likely when there is NO FATHER AROUND.
Why would any movement except feminism acknoledge and embrace falsehoods as gospel. Check facts before spouting off please.
PS any disrespect you see here is NOT because you are woman it is because you are a fool. There are enough of those in both genders
MrRavenNation 9 months ago
@MrRavenNation Disrespect? No, just common arrogance. Sunshine? 'Check your facts' followed by NO SOURCE.
LOL.
poodlesusan 9 months ago
@poodlesusan Check with the CDC, the FBI, or google Will Farrel who started out a feminists and tried to prove men were more violent and could not. 3 times he repeated his studies and teh same conclusion each time.
Geez, didnèt think you needed a man to do the legwork for you.
MrRavenNation 9 months ago 2
@MrRavenNation One person trying and failing to prove your claim is all you offer? Ha!
poodlesusan 9 months ago
@poodlesusan anti child abuse pro abortation lol! women say abortation goes on anyway and its a womans right to do what she pleases with her body so how about willing prositutes. its a disgrace feminism has surrendered europe to islam now they want to cause more trouble for the west, when they have finally destroyed the west how will the victorious east treat women, yeah thats what i though
usawarofindependence 8 months ago
@poodlesusan
Men should apologize for being men, before demanding equal rights and respect? That's dumb. I am proud to be a man. Why don't you acknowledge all the evils that woman have committed. Then you will be purified enough to join our discussion? That is silly.
proudguy 9 months ago 7
@proudguy In your response to poodlesusan the obviousness of your sexism is revealed. I'd still like to see a response to the vast number of sex crimes that involve men as the perpetrators which she brought up and you conveniently ignored,
and a list of the evils that women have committed that rival those than men have done since the beginning of time
Uchihasasuk5 6 months ago
@Uchihasasuk5
It is obvious that you are a gender bigot who hates men. It is ridiculous to tally up great lists of crimes throughout history and then say that the group with the larger list does not deserve basic human rights. That would be a neverending debate & distraction. Also, this is a standard tactic used by NAZIs, Serbians, Stalinists etc to take away rights from identifiable groups.
I believe that everyone is deserving of rights and dignity, not just women.
proudguy 6 months ago 7
@Uchihasasuk5 - Tell me, why do feminists always leave out the negative acts women have done in their videos yet expect men's rights activists to admit to the negative acts men have done? What you're wanting to do is compare and judge the genders on which one is superior based on which one has done the least amount of negative acts. How do you, as a feminist, expect to ever achieve gender equality by creating the image of "woman = good and right" and "man = bad and wrong"?
NautyKnight 6 months ago
@Uchihasasuk5 The list would b endless, all abortions decided by women, 70% divorces filed by women. 59% of child abuse by moms (Statistical Abstract of US 1987), 54% of kids murdered by moms (Daly & Wilson 1988). "Most unreported crime is not wife beating it is husb beating" (Langley & Levy 1977). Black husbands at greater risk of spousal homocide than black women (Mercy & Salzman 1989). Women get full r primary custody 97% just because they sit down 2 pee.
MLJ1219 6 months ago
@Uchihasasuk5
In addition to proudguys answer, you also have a enormous flaw in your thinking; what one man or woman does not hole the rest accoutnable just on basis of their sex. While it is true that its more common for men to rape than women, it is equally true that its vastly more common for men NOT to rape than to rape. Men as a group should not be defined by what a extremely small minority does. (and how have other more common denominators as druguse and mental illness).
s031720 6 months ago
@poodlesusan
interesting you should mention pedophilia, its becoming more and more known that women are almost as often pedophiles as men; they simply get away with it easier since it dosent fit in with the view we have of women.
Just recently the police caught a pedophile-network in Sweden containing 21 women and 1 man. It was worht 1! days of media coverage and never spoken of again. We simply DONT want to know that women can abuse children, and does.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 do you have any statistics supporting your claim that 'women are almost as often pedophiles as men'? i'm guessing NO.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
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@poodlesusan according to David Finkelhor’s numerous studies, women’s sexual abuse of children is much more serious than men’s because women are more likely to have abused more children for a longer period of time (Murray 215), are more intrusive, and more likely to use higher rates of force than men (Moulden 388). Finkelhor found that in cases of daycare molestation, more than 60% of children who were molested, were molested by women (Murray 213).
s031720 6 months ago
Heather Moulden’s 2007 follow-up to Finkelhor’s research verifies, “despite a social reluctance to acknowledge female sexual abusers, reports suggest that they account for between 3% and 15% of all sexual offences” (387). However, as Richard Tewksbury reports, that number is probably much higher since “female sex offending is […] acknowledged as possibly less likely to be detected or reported” (30)
s031720 6 months ago
@poodlesusan Despite the general reluctance to pursue female suspects and to incarcerate them (Moulden 199), criminal acts by female offenders have reached a ratio of 6:1 compared to male criminal acts (Palmero 30). Moulden’s study of female sex offenders found that “females offended against younger victims and were more violent as compared with male abusers”
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 without prosecution or incarceration numbers validating your claim, your claim is largely speculative. Rape, including child rape, is vastly under-reported. "reports suggest" leaves open so much speculation, that to conclude with your claim is dishonest.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan in what way would prosecution and incarceration be less speculative?
You come here demanding that men own up to "their" crimes, and you come here demanding facts. But YOU refuse to own up to equivalent "female" crimes, you do not accept facts and you dont present facts. Your credibility and honesty is very much in question, and I think anyone following this dialogue can agree with proudguys first estimation; you are a genderbiggot, a feminist sexist and your are far from alone.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 Oh, and if you take issue with the media and/or criminal justice systems not holding women accountable enough, look at the gender balance or lack thereof within those. If the media & criminal justice systems are male-dominated, the reluctance to raise awareness of, detect & prosecute male OR female pedophiles begins to turn back, once again, toward a serious problem of male-favored systems. Of course men's rights extremists strive to ignore & hide this state of affairs.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan according to David Finkelhor’s numerous studies, women’s sexual abuse of children is much more serious than men’s because women are more likely to have abused more children for a longer period of time (Murray 215), are more intrusive, and more likely to use higher rates of force than men (Moulden 388). Finkelhor found that in cases of daycare molestation, more than 60% of children who were molested, were molested by women (Murray 213).
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 gender imbalance in any structure can be a source of problems. Look at the Catholic Church and its pedophile scandals: a structure controlled strictly only by men & requiring them to not marry explains specifically the occurrence of male homosexual pedophilia. Pedophilia is largely an issue of domination, & the male gender has a long and violent history of such.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan and look at the childcare system and the pedophile scandals; a strucrue controlled strictly by women and the idea that women "are caregivers" explains why noone questions why the kindergartenlady cleans Lisas vagina so thoroughly.
Pedohpilia is largely an issue of traumatized individuals repeating and perputating what was done to them, and god knows there are many sexually abused girls today that will be pedophiles tomorrow. And noone will acknowledge it because noone wants to.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 at once slinging epithets 'gender biggot', 'feminist sexist', & yet acknowledging my calling for men & women to work together...you seem quite confused not only about your own position, but that of others, and thus you are the natural counterpart to hysterics within the so-called 'feminist movement': doing more harm than good, & meanwhile doing nothing to free anyone from cruel gender roles. and your 'no one acknowledges it...no one wants to' attitude isn't helping any.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan Ah, but you ARE biggotted and sexist when demanding of others what you do not contribute yourself, measuring men to other standards for no other reason for them beeing men. Also you argue from a theoretical standpoint of radical feminism, ie male-dominated structures, while not aknowledging female-dominated structures play equal role in the system, and you want cooperation but only on your terms.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 the standards to measure by are kindness, equality, and consideration for others. It is FACT that historically and in the majority, power structures have been built and maintained by and for male domination. To be willing male OR female victim of power structures assigning cruel gender roles makes one, male OR female, an enemy of equality. The problem is not gender! The problem is cruel gender roles assigned to BOTH men and women by power structures!
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan That is not fact. That is feminist THEORY. It is a view designed to cast guild on men-as-a-group and free women-as-a-group from responsibility for a system thats the consequence of a need to protect women as a way to secure the survival of society, equally a product of men and women, where women payed with their freedom and men payed with their security and health. You as an individual just dont seem to be able to take responsibility for your part the same way you demand of others.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720
Would you two just fuck and get it over with already?
DaemonHellgate69 5 months ago
@poodlesusan In sweden we have more swedish journalists than male, and so it is femaledominated. Law is male dominated; and its to the same effect. It dosent seem to matter, making your argument unvalid.
Also you talk as if the mensmovement share the motives and teories of the feministmovement, but only have diffrent goals, that is not true. You talk about a gendersystem that favours men, the mensmovement talk about a class-system that favours upperclass man AND women, in diffrent ways.
s031720 6 months ago
@poodlesusan When you claim something is male-favoured, you make invicible that its not ANY man that is favoured, but a select few. You also make invicible that a select few WOMEN also are favoured by that system. When modern feminism got invaded by uppterclass academic women, the movements goals and motives changed in a way as to hide their on conflicting affiliations and make MEN the enemy; obscuring the obvious class-issue.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 More than male-favored, most political, social and economic structures are male-dominated. Obscuring the problems of male domination by scapegoating women's efforts for equality requires the utmost denial of reality. It is a delusion to blame women or a women's movement for male subordination, because the world's power structures have been made and maintained by men.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan The ratio of men/women in the institutions of society equals the catchment area, at least in sweden and probably everywere. if 70 men and 30 women compete for 10 jobs, 7 of them will be men and 3 women; furthermore there are no judical restraints for women, they compete on the exact same premises. This is fair. If women want more representation they need to apply for it; if we accept meritocracy as an ideal, affirmative action is discrimination against men.
s031720 6 months ago
@s031720 what if there are plenty more men who are more "fit" or proficient at the job? would it be considered sex discrimination when the company is merely out to find who is best for their business?
NWKklown 2 months ago
@poodlesusan
1) By not being sex-racist bigots. Men invented the abstractions of justice and equality. If anyone can do it, MEN can. Females sure as hell have failed. Prior to feminist governance, male leadership exercised balance between the sexes, not sameness for obvious practical functional reasons, such as division of labor, but balance of respect and love.
FingSpaghettiMonster 6 months ago
@poodlesusan
2) Female pedophilia and child abuse often outnumber those by men. So STFU with your evil slander of males. Your petty 'tallying' of poor behavior by 'groups' is sex-racist. What is the point of such a tally? What is the logical consequence of such a tally? The apology by all hispanics for committing more muggins than blacks? Your approach is, retarded. Females do a lot of fucked up shit. You probably don't notice it because you are biased to focus on the target of your hate.
FingSpaghettiMonster 6 months ago
@poodlesusan
2 Continued) If I acknowledge that men as a group commit more rape than females as a group, will you acknowledge that females commit more emotional abuse of their partners?
FingSpaghettiMonster 6 months ago
@poodlesusan
3) Do you acknowledge that females have been sheltered from having to engage in the horrors of war, and that when they do play central roles, they engage no less destructive activities than males?
FingSpaghettiMonster 6 months ago
@FingSpaghettiMonster It's men who created armies and conducted wars, though. Again, the problem turns back to one of male domination. Men, not women, are sometimes their own worst enemies. Men and women are beautifully different, beautifully compatible, and beautifully equal. We should be fighting against inhumane gender roles and their resulting power structures, NOT EACH OTHER.
poodlesusan 6 months ago
@poodlesusan And feminists are often womens worst enemies. But strike male domination and replace it with gendersociety and i agree fullheartedly with you. Men and women should work together to make the world a better place to live in, and just as men have been made to see the hardships and suffering of women, its time for women to see the hardships and suffering men have gone through. Without the shame and blame tactic that only serve the purpose to hide the responsibilities of women.
s031720 6 months ago
@poodlesusan AMEN
fallencypress2 5 months ago
@poodlesusan . We should be fighting against inhumane gender roles and their resulting power structures, NOT EACH OTHER......................AMEN!
fallencypress2 5 months ago
@poodlesusan
4) What damage done in the name of "brotherhood" are you talking about? Seen any paternity fraud lately? Or men deprived of custody of their own flesh and blood children? Do you acknowledge the damage done in the name of the yaya "sisterhood"?
FingSpaghettiMonster 6 months ago
@poodlesusan
5) Do you or feminism respect and honor MEN? Have women ever genuinely honored, respected and loved MEN? Men have historically honored, respected and loved women to absurd extents, employing their entire lives as disposable instruments to that purpose. Vice versa?
That feminism has successfully demonized such a creature says an unfortunate amount about female character. What men should do in the future is honor, respect and love women TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY EARN and DESERVE IT.
FingSpaghettiMonster 6 months ago
Thanks for sharing this wonderful video, this is happening to me right now, and its not the first time, but I did not see it the first time.
911Truthseekers3 11 months ago
My experience in the family courts tells me that as a man and a father I am absolutely expendable. My ex's mother is a feminist. I know she was well connected. It nearly took my life. I'm not the only one.
ICSTRINGS1 11 months ago
As much as equality issues is the right way to go, it will not work because that is how the feminist movement started and they will change it into more rights for women. The only way to make this work is to complain about their crimes against men. BTW, there are more women in prison today then ever before, think about that. P.S. change the music!
StillLearning1000 11 months ago
(cont) It's the same kind of sexist stereotyping that assumes that a man who cries or expresses his feelings, or doubts, is a pussy. I think if you want to discuss these issues you should do it without stereotyping the other sex, just as you would, I'm sure, prefer your sex wasn't stereotyped.
genkimonki 11 months ago
(cont) I think in an otherwise good video, approaching important issues that need to be discussed, that particular kind of stereotyping that women are just emotional, over reacting people, lacking good intention, sets the seriousness that one should take in your video, back.
genkimonki 11 months ago
@genkimonki U say noble things, will u back it up? Will u support lottery 4 child support (can't b more fair than letting machine decide), will u denounce primary aggressor laws that would b found illegal if applied 2 women? Will u speak out against selective prosecution of men vs women re: DV & false rape? Will u petition that body bags from wars b 1/2 women instead of 98% men? Will u scream that affirmative action insist that 50% of all coal miners b women? If not, fems =bigotry period.
MLJ1219 6 months ago
@MLJ1219 It's not bigotry. You fight for your rights and we'll fight for ours. Everyone's just trying to meet in the middle. A lot of women aren't in the military or coal mining because they're going for more traditional standards of women taking care of the children. Things aren't going to fix themselves over night. Men and women's issues aren't something that can be fixed so easily, so the best thing to do is keep campaigning and educating people.
genkimonki 6 months ago
I agree with a lot of the issues that you spoke about in this video. I agree with men getting a raw deal compared to women in divorce and criminal cases, and I believe there should be a lot more attention paid to men's emotional well beings. What I don't agree is your "Men spring to action because they're chivalrous where as women spring to action because of fear and outrage."
genkimonki 11 months ago
The problem with this video and many others is that you don't mention that this is about seeing males as predators and females as victims.
eg: anyone in thier right minds can see that telling boys that they have to 'respect females' and telling girls to 'demand respect from males' has nothing to do with equality and everthing to do with seeing males as the potential bullies and females as the potential victims.
All because they are too afraid of men to accept that they are not predators.
allmememe2 1 year ago 2
Heh, we don't need mens issues. What we need is equality issues. Focus on areas where reality shows an unjust inequity and fix it. Stop trying to over gender equality on either side. All adults deserve the same rights.
WillGo7 1 year ago 2
@WillGo7
Men's Issues are equality issues. There can be no equality if we only look at women's issues and ignore men's issues. To me, that is common sense.
Men's issues are areas in which men are discriminated against, such as in child custody and visitation after divorce, gender profiling in domestic violence, laws that promote false allegations against men etc. Men's issues are men wanting to have the same rights and respect as women. Men's issues are equality issues.
proudguy 1 year ago 18
Excellent video. A good terse summary of the major issues facing the men's rights movement.
And I'm glad you specifically point out how chivlary was (and sadly still is) a system that exemplified the valuing of women's lives over men's. I think some progress has been made though. It no longer seems politcally viable, for instance, to enstate the draft, despite two major wars going on for almost a decade now. Perhaps we are starting to care a little more about men.
unfortunatebeam 1 year ago
You say toward the end of your video that males do not have "positive role models". Last time I checked, all the presidents of the United States have been male, majority of representatives and senators are male, many new anchors and hosts are male, almost all preachers, for almost all religions, are male, most doctors are males, most CEO's are male. What about star athletes? What about celebrities like Bruce Willis, Bon Jovi, etc? Are they not positive role models? Just wondering...
punkfalcon 1 year ago
@punkfalcon
When I was a boy, I barely knew the name of the President, let alone seeing him as role model. I could not name even one CEO, Representative or Senator. I knew nothing about that. I had no personal connection with my doctor. I knew nothing about him.
My role models were my parents, teachers, and TV characters. These are the male role models that are lacking today. Parents & teachers now are mostly female. Male TV characters are buffoons. Willis and Bon Jovi? How old?
proudguy 1 year ago 13
@proudguy true how can somebody with good mental health consider POLITICS as ROLE MODEL's????? btw Bruce wills and Bon Jovi are old men....who are the younger one????
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
@proudguy
I am female and some of my role models have been male. Maybe you just need to be less divisive.
angeltears87 1 year ago
@punkfalcon Most men hit the "stone wall" of middle managment, rarely any of them actually become CEOs. Nuns are roughly equivalent to preachers, and many would argue the value of striving for a position that waxes on about some kind of super-being that created us all in 6 days than had to rest. Frankly, who cares if all news anchors were male, even tho that isn't true. and i dont know about bruce willis but how is bon jovi a good role model "i'll be your superman tonight" ugh! what banal crap!
unfortunatebeam 1 year ago
@punkfalcon When did lying, adulterous, embezzling A-Holes become "positive" role models. Even the celebrities mentioned usually take on roles that cast the men as secondary partners in sexual relationships, that's a "negative" role model. When are we going to see truly equal partners? When are we going to see guys that aren't being lead around by their private parts like that's somehow respectable to the males. Every guy I know seems to think that this IS what being a male is about, WRONG
darrekw 10 months ago
"We MUST encourage men to seek mental health care when they are depressed." What? You are kidding. In pseudo-science hands? Worst than the problem itself. If a man loose his confidence, all other men laughing at. LOL
pier3800 1 year ago
Blame patriarchy, not feminism. Your first example using the Roman games is particularly irrelevant. Maybe a class in logical thinking would help?
piewackett1 1 year ago
@piewackett1
Your problem is your initial assumption that my video is just an attack on feminism. Your wrong assumption lead to a wrong interpretation.
Yes, feminism is bad. It promotes negative stereotyping of men & boys and has led to human rights abuses.
The video is about the Men's Movement (see title) and wrong thinking that the movement wants to overcome. The Roman part shows that men have always had a raw deal long before feminism. Thus feminism is only one part of the problem.
proudguy 1 year ago
@proudguy Not all feminist promote negative stereotypes of men. although, I do agree that it has created misandry. But many of these feminist have seen men disadvantages and now they also seek to change it. Men studies is still rather new (if I remember right, it started in the 90's), so many people it isnt a problem.
I loved your video by the way.
boomboomdennis 1 year ago
@piewackett1 it is a analogy to show how men as a group is seen by the majority. Not only women. More than patriarchy I think the problem lays in the system who stereotype men as superbeins and perfect. If u r a man, dont need help, if u r man u r closer to a machine than to a human beins.
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
@Kenshiroit @Kenshiroit I think we maybe be talking past in each other in that we both agree that is is indeed the current flawed system, our society, hurting all genders.
The underlying bankruptcy of ideas and stereotypes , the culture of hierarchy, of domination, institutionalized racism and false male warrior archetypes:,these are the building blocks of patriacrhy with misogyny as its cornerstone.
Thanks for the civil exchange of ideas!
piewackett1 1 year ago
@piewackett1 yes I agree, but I am skeptic on this abstract unreachable enemy, the so called patriarchy. This "enemy" today has the same status as satan for the religious people. And like satan it exist only in books. U cant see it, u cant feel it, u cant hear it. But u know his there. Ok, beside that, everybody are oppress women and men alike. Yesterday and nowaday misoginy goes hand to hand with misandry like sister and brothers. It is always a pleasure to exchange ideas :-)
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
@piewackett1 I As an MRA, I do agree that partriarchy was no friend to the vast majority of men who were lower on the male dominance hierarchy. There was a tiny minority of power elites and the deluded gimps that served them that treated both women AND men like shit. Men's right's activism is often about the fight for the rights of commen men, but there are some areas that apply to all men, even rich men. In the last little while tho, feminism joined in, no wonder male suicide rates soared
unfortunatebeam 1 year ago
family courts aren't making it so that ' dad ran off" it's that according to society standards. That MEN! set a long time ago, women are better care givers than men. WHich is a lie. Men had positive role models that ficilitated gender steryotypes and gender roles. That's why it was extended to women. REally the scale just keeps tippping back and forth. What needs to happen is everything is equal down the middle. Radical feminists are wrong, and the MRAs are wrong. I'm a women btw.
flame0731 1 year ago
@flame0731
The point made by the video is that women will claim that the father ran away from his children when in fact she has not allowed the father to see his children.
When a mother denies access between father and children, the children only know what the mother tells them. Fathers have gone to prison simply for waving at their children from the other side of the street. Children do not understand about the law. They believe that dad would visit if he wanted to. Mom controls access.
proudguy 1 year ago
@proudguy Yeah, and the point made by my post was that the video is proposterous
flame0731 1 year ago
@flame0731
You are a feminist. You just spew brainless stereotypes and shameless gender bigotry. I have heard it all of my life. It is garbage.
People used to claim that Blacks were inherently violent and that Mexicans were lazy and Jews were greedy. Feminists are gender bigots. This is their time to get away with it, but people are getting wise to their hate.
proudguy 1 year ago
@proudguy Um......you got one thing right. I am a femenist. Thing is I'm the type of femenist that wants literally equality. I concede that there are women out there that keep the children from their husband for whatever their reasons are, but I also concede that it is extrememly wrong for them to do so. But you must also take into accountt hat what I said was NOT a steryotypte. Pick up a dictionary you ignorant fool. Before the era of womens rights, men set the standards that women should live
flame0731 1 year ago
@flame0731 interesting how women nowadys set standart on how men are suppose to live...
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
@proudguy (continued) that women should live by. So anything that occurs now basically comes back to them. SOCIETY say men should be the provider and women the care giver, but in divorce the women get the kids and the men bitch. Well, um hun you went by societies standards and didn't want to do both parts of provider and caregiver, nor have a wife that would do both. But again I concede that this may be an extraneous situation. Your examples are in no way similar to my responses.
flame0731 1 year ago
@flame0731
There was no "before women's rights". Women always had lots of rights and privileges and considerable input into our cultural and legal traditions.
"now basically comes back to them". Feminists have been running things for a long time now (40 years at least), so they are to blame for the mess we are in now.
proudguy 1 year ago
@proudguy This is one part of the problem. We have so much inequality, but feminists dont only focus on the disadvantaged women, which they also still are.
I am also a feminist. Well, I believe in conflict theory and symbolic interactionism. Your view on feminism is of that that was very often in the media. I am not saying it hasn't caused misandry, but maybe you should also include the media into your accusations.
boomboomdennis 1 year ago
@proudguy I am also a feminist. Well, I believe in conflict theory and symbolic interactionism. Your view on feminism is of that that was very often in the media. I am not saying it hasn't caused misandry, but maybe you should also include the media into your accusations.
boomboomdennis 1 year ago
@boomboomdennis agree media have great responsabilities...
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
@proudguy (cont) This video is proposterous in that it takes two to tango. In the REAL world, if a court makes an unjust decision, you appeal, appeal, appeal. I think society is becoming not only wise to the RADICAL femenist hate, but to the pathetic ppl like you that don't fully comprehend the situation
flame0731 1 year ago
@proudguy well said
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
Really worrying violence is that exerted BY WOMAN.
Such violence goes from "inocent" slaps to men (as we can see in many movies and sitcoms, and that always are considered a "game"), to the ruthless abortion, going through sexual harassment to men (not to get his sexual favors, but to strip him of his assets) and false DV charges.
excelmaster7 1 year ago
This EPIDEMIC is why we need to know about JURY NULLIFICATION and jury reform.
ticks4ticks4 1 year ago
Right on man, right on. It's a woman's world, and it's up to those men brave enough to re spark the nature of men before another generation of boys who are raised by mothers connected to a female system of prejudice in social determination (right word? they largely influence social norms and roles) before the way of man is forgotten. We are conned into being and acting like "men", a term pre determined and shaped by those perpetuating the stereotype. We are limited to be overcome.
liesofpolaris 1 year ago
This is why western women hate it when men go for foreign women. They know that they are better for us and won't screw us over for our money and will respect us, unlike western women who have been trained to use the legal system against us. The age of chivalry is gone in the west, lets look for it elsewhere until western women get the picture
MaguireMart 1 year ago
@MaguireMart Please, I hear no western women complaining about men going for foreign women. Most western women could care less. Men seem to think women are shaking in their boots over losing men. If this video is true, then women could care less what men do right? If you're too weak and need a subordinate female, feel free to go to any eastern country and do it. No western woman will give a shit whether you do or not!
funkybruiser 1 year ago
@funkybruiser
All the women, I know, are opposed to the idea of 'mail order brides' or men specifically looking for foreign women. Men sometimes look elsewhere for a wife believing that these women do not carry as big a chip on their shoulders as most local women.
It is mistake IMO though, because these women often use these men to enter the country. Then they divorce just as easily as local women, taking the children, assets, child support, spousal support, pensions etc.
proudguy 1 year ago
@proudguy I believe women are more opposed to mail order brides simply because it diminishes the 'value' of women as if they are market commodities of some sort...almost like legal prostitution...but it's like you say, you don't know what you're getting into and arranged marriages that take place in other countries may benefit in some ways but on the whole I think it's an unhappy institution when there's no feelings involved.
funkybruiser 1 year ago
"Although women hit as much as men do, it's typically in cases of frustration, whereas men hit to assert themselves as dominant. "
Women hit in frustration because they cannot have power over their spouses, men hit only in order to assert their rightful place in the household.
PostHuman2113 1 year ago
well... the good thing is you have friends. I'm not sure if I can fix everything, but from the media concerns and presenting strong positive male characters in the media, I may have some influence there. I can prove that you can still make money and present a good message and hopefully shift the direction of the media. It may not do anything for the millennials but I think we can still salvage the next generation.
nigen 1 year ago
Thanks for making this video. I too make video regarding abused men and also provide a site for men to workout out these issues and help each other. More of us need to stand up and be heard and make it known that women and men are needing equal love, treatment, and fairness in this society. AGain thanksf or making this video and check out mine if you might be so kind ;)
begood4000 1 year ago
The lives and emotional welfare of males is such as important of those of females. Feminists do not deserve chivalry.
freeheretic111 1 year ago
This is a patriarchal world and it is MEN at the helm so ur gripe is not with women. U shoukld take issue with the fact that the women r vicitms of the same system. We now have 2 work and raise a family and be the good wife. SO PLZ stop this non sense ! If u want to chnage things - women r not the problem. The elites have created and promoted systemically to break down the family and family values. I think ur very misguided! But I am sure u wont listen
Badwolf182 1 year ago
@Badwolf182
1, It is not a patriarchal world. Women have tremendous power.
2, My gripe is not with women. True! I never said that it was.
3, "The elites have created and promoted systemically to break down the family and family values." Yes. Exactly true.
4, My gripe is with the ideologies of feminism and chivalry, which are very similar and very sexist.
proudguy 1 year ago 3
@Badwolf182 A patriachal world? Maybe in some places but not in America, Canada, or Britain. Even with men in positons of much leadership, the laws, family court system, social support and services are biased in favor of the woman.
freeheretic111 1 year ago
Thanks for the video!
gildersniff 1 year ago
OMG you're such a dumb baby.
diornotwar123 1 year ago
THIS IS GAY! MAN UP AND BE A MAN!
MachoHairy 1 year ago
@MachoHairy:
LMAO!!
You created your channel today so that you could go around telling MRAs to "man up". I bet that you are actually a woman. :-)
proudguy 1 year ago 13
Letting feminists know the truth: manhood101 . com
westmeaty 1 year ago
Where did you get your statistics and information re: bias in courts? I would like to cite the information in something on which I am working. Thanks!
iamdoctorious 1 year ago 2
Good message in the video. While I like the angst-ridden music, it inspires me to lift heavy weights instead of reading.
sting444 1 year ago
@sting444 why not both
Rahhhsajp19 1 year ago
I remember that shirt from 3:00, and I still dislike it.
TheAlaricPetz 1 year ago
I totally agree with video... I have faced the system and luckly for me the case fell apart, I could not believe one womans lie and one angry feminst female cop had the power to destroy my life. I have survived and am slowly building my life back....why does society allow this to happen?
GangaSoota 1 year ago
if you believe you are a victim you will be one.
tabledogpurpleliquef 1 year ago
@proudguy Your commentary is very accurate and very true. Males don't have as many role models on tv etc. But, as a feminist myself, I think that you misunderstand some of the concepts of it. I'm a feminist because of the years of oppression women have faced over time, and to be proud and not tolerate a backwards way of looking at women. I am not a psycho who hates men or thinks they don't deserve rights. Feminists typically believe in equal rights for both men and women. Good video, and thanks
lepsychokaybird 1 year ago
Males have a lot of role models on TV, but not in female-oriented primetime TV. Even chewing gum commercials show men rammed in the groin by a , well, ram.
Apparently, the target audience of women and metrosexual men find this funny.
American white women are more oppressed now than ever before ! Stop the madness.
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corbyworld5 1 year ago 2
That is correct, no positive male role models in America. Not even in the court house.
SpringChatty 2 years ago
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yeah, so long as they are not rapists and perverts ! Longing to see the good men in America.....do they exist?
SpringChatty 2 years ago
@SpringChatty are you retarded? of course they exist, its just that you and the rest of the world chose to ignore thatt.
BillyandBarry 1 year ago 3
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sources there have fun.
attackmike 2 years ago
teach stupid cunts to fetch their sticks: manhood101 . com :)
westmeat 2 years ago
@westmeat
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smacktheboxintheface 1 year ago
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ProudGuy,
Well done.
You are obviously hitting the nerve here with the likes of 'DianaBoston' who vomit such blind male-hate.
Anti-male programming is obviously everywhere now, good to see some of us still believe that most men are certainly beautiful and have great benefit to offer everyone even Ms. Andry types like 'DianaBoston'.
Save a Feminist - Hug a Boy
teebs70 2 years ago
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Do you even stop to think while you type out this nonsense? MRA's are nothing more than males who don't like women and feminists who are gaining space in the public sphere. It's really a simple thing. MRA's resent women gaining political power to affect change in the lives of girls and women. Feminists rally to keep their hard won victories like the right to choose. They challenge the injustice of sweatshop labour. They challenge the male dominated institutions so minorities can have a shot.
DianaBoston 2 years ago
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2. They challenge the military industrial complex and its wars that send young people off to their deaths. They challenge any notion that implies that women and other minorities are less than the traditional white male. They challenge the media. Feminism is not a one size fits all. This backlash has already been written about decades ago. It's taken a fresh face, calls itself the MRM and seeks to malign the rights of women. Women aren't going to give those rights up. They were hard won.
DianaBoston 2 years ago
DianaBoston:
Everything you have said is a lie. Radical femininazis are a backlash against pro-male activists who want gender equality.
proudguy 2 years ago
3. MRA's calling women and feminists 'cunts' and 'whores' and all other such misogynistic insults show them for what they are. There is no reasonable discussion with an MRA because there is nothing reasonable about the MRM. You want battered men shelters? Build them and staff them just like feminists did. You want to control your reproduction: donate to getting your own pill or other methods. No feminists are getting in your way to do that.
DianaBoston 2 years ago
@DianaBoston
I thank you for the motivational speech. However, let's just get a few things straightened up. Women didn't develop the pill. The scientist leading this effort in the 50's were men and the companies that funded the research were run by men. Also, most shelters for women are funded or subsidized by tax dollars, of which are generated by men (and women).
gildersniff 1 year ago
DianaBoston:
"MRA's are nothing more than males who don't like women"
You are nothing more than a man-hating gender bigot. Spout yer hate mongering elsewhere.
proudguy 2 years ago
@proudguy One need only view DianaBoston's channel videos to see her for what she is....She is one sick woman.
Red0660 2 years ago 3
3: The Chivalric code was an exclusively aristocratic medieval European set of ideals. Famous 'Chivalric' men killed thousands of people, mainly peasants across the known world.
Feminsm has nothing to do with 'chivalry'. A recent study asked women what they most feared about men: "that they will kill us".
NOT that they might not open the door for us
rudderandrock 2 years ago
rudderandrock:
Perhaps you are copying and pasting from somewhere.
I won't let you post huge amounts of man-hating material on my equal respect channel. I will delete and block before then.
proudguy 2 years ago
I am not copying and pasting. I am using historical fact. I am not uninformed on the classical period, nor Medieval Europe.
Why post a video using ideas from history if you are unwilling to accept posts regarding that history?
rudderandrock 2 years ago
If a recent study concludes that what women fear most about men is that they will kill them, when the Dept. of Justice reports only about 1500 female deaths at the hands of intimate partners, it is clear that an ideology has vastly overexaggerated their paranoia of the evil of the other half of the human race.
Gogonostop 1 year ago 16
@Gogonostop Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States.
I notice you didn't bother to list all the other crimes listed on their website though. you may think that number is low that you listed as far as murders but those stats are from 10 years ago.Violence occurs in many forms and if you go back and look at their website, the results in reference to DV are staggering. I can't imagine how high the stats are now.
funkybruiser 1 year ago
@funkybruiser
Promoting prejudice or hatred against a group in society is always wrong, regardless of what statistics someone comes up with.
Statistics Canada, is a government gatherer of statistics. Their web site says:
"In 2008, females accounted for the lowest proportion (24%) of homicide victims recorded since data collection began.
2008 Murder Victims: 146 females, 465 males
2008 Suicides: 817 females, 2,695 males"
proudguy 1 year ago
@proudguy no doubt more men die in those stats, what they don't tell you is that males are more violent against each other than women.
funkybruiser 1 year ago