Secrets of The CIA - Afghanistan

[azkeyz]

it doesn't matter , america will continue to kill muslims down to the last man.

as for bin ladin it doesn't matter who trained him because americans know they have no choice now but to expose the cia as frauds and get rid of them.

of course I suspect that will not take place and that all americans who apppose cia will be placed in fema camp to be executed.

because american civilians are a cia liability.

[justbcuzimbigger]

does anyone know the song that starts off in the video? for the first :50 seconds?

[x8z3]

And why was the CIA there at all?

"Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention."

Zbigniew Brzezinski,

President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

[cancanbiker]

@x8z3

The real secret of the war was the same secrets of Iran/Contra and Laos. Drugs, guns, and the BCCI. It is misleading to portray the entire Mujahideen war as being funded by 3 billion tax payer dollars, when in reality simontaneous to Carter's directive, the ISI trained Mujahideen via CIA funding AND protected drug labs and opium crops in Afghanistan.

Carter's uprising can also be partially credited to the BCCI.

[cancanbiker]

@cancanbiker

Edit to correct spelling error

* simultaneous

[manutdr8]

CIA FUELLED BY WEED AND COCAINE SINCE 1945, WE DESTROY EM WITH A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE *DING*

[HelenaXVI]

now want to cut off the head of every American. Russia lost, Afghanistan lost, America lost. Congratulations, USA. We thank you for your efforts to bring the world democracy, counterproductive as they are.

[HelenaXVI]

The SU had a 1000 mile border with Afghanistan and the Afghanis were living like 300 years before. If the SU wanted to conquer Afghanistan they could've done it easily. The revolutionaries there were just trying to modernize Afghan society, there was nothing communist about them. Yet Americans called them "communist" and started funding radical Muslims to fight the Soviets to give them their own Vietnam. Well. Thousands of Russians died, Afghanistan is still a backward country and the mujahideen

[adammclad]

its fine for these people to make wild accusations and claim they didnt agree with actions taken when the agency will never respond to these claims

[yourliver1]

I first heard of Bin Laden in the late 1980's. I was watching 20/20. Diane Sawyer went to Afganistan. While there she talked to members of the CIA and the Military. They described how one of their trained Cia operatives (Bin Laden) had gone rogue.

Now the CIA claims they didnt know who BinLaden was until 1996.

[2237lemon]

might not have funded them directly but most likey partook in buying their opium for shipment into america.. hence the name controlled sunbstances rather than illegal substances... controlled being the key word there

[DutchPetriot]

This is so inaccurate. They do not make a difference between Massouds men and the Taliban.

[MegaSHamed]

and what concern Ossama Bin Laden he really didnt exist his name become welknown in modern times but in sovieto afghan war there was no such arabic peoples like u have in taliban groups or any osama bin laden , and I dont beliv that CIA would have any reasons to creat such a enemy for themselves , meybe he worked how ever I didnt see prauvs by the way it doesnt mean CIA had some plan with Osama Bin Laden , and plus we afghans honestly hate that guy

[MegaSHamed]

well as an afghan I thank americans any way for soviet times , and I agree and we agree that talibans and al qaeda group is not CIA creation what many our afghan fellows actually thinking , i would say talibans are more creation of Iranian and Pakistany governors, why ? simple pakistan help out becous of pashtonistan land we wanted back from them , and iranians becous of Mashad and also becous we were never really close friends with Iran , so dont mix talibans with mujahedins people shoud know

[GrassLok]

it was all part of the cold war.

[maiwandwal]

Its always the damn Yankees causing problems all over the world!!!

[chris2002Rocklin]

Every war since Mohamed had his demonic dreams, has been caused by him and his legacy "Islam".

The Roman church (also Pagan, like Islam) should not have formed any army at all. They were wrong, but so were all of the "holy warriors" for the 400 years between Mohamed & the 1st crusade.

Tell the truth. You have no right to criticize anyone else when you lie about yourself.

[maiwandwal]

chris

HOW do I lie? Wjat am I lying abt???

[Samun16]

whats is first song?

[IndoAtheist]

those alCIAda/alMOSSADa goons really are trouble makers get rid of 'em A.S.A.P !!! CIA+MOSSAD+ISI+SAUDIS WAHABBISTS SELF BLOWN UP ARMIES=MUTHA FUCKAS !!!

[ScorpionDBZ]

OKay, I've read the last few comments and feel that some things need clearing up.

Whether Osama did work for the CIA, can never properly be proved, because such information in documents would be very higly classified.

As for saying that real Muslims are the best in the world, is actually a racist statement to make.

I am a Muslim and in our religion, it also says that:

"A non-arab is not superior to an arab, NOR is an arab superior to a non-arab"

All people are EQUAL

[NWOConspiracyGroup]

You need to check out Robin Cook. He was a renown Politician here in England who confirmed Bin Laden worked for the CIA and wrote 2 articles in our papers. He died on a trip in a mountain in Scotland less than a month after he talked. They claim it was a heart attack????

[NWOConspiracyGroup]

He also confirmed that Al-Qaida was a CIA database which contained names of Mujahadeen soldiers trained by the CIA. It was never a terrorist group, just a computer file. This guy was very senior too.

[4JaCkTheJoKeR9]

true i've heard of that line in the quran before. but there's alotta other issues the quran preaches about injustice. i think reforming would be something to look into.

[ScorpionDBZ]

Issues in a negative context? Please explain. :)

[xGH3x]

btw, just because osama worked with the CIA does not make him a CIA agent. I have worked the police in finding a couple of fugitives and criminals but does that make me a cop? NO

[Isaak29]

I don't get it.

If the US helped the Afghans kicked the Soviets out, and the US left, why are the Afghans mad at the Americans?

If the US stood there doing things, I would understand, but they just left. What? The Afghans felt abandoned?

[willingtorisk]

The Afghans? Your lumping alot of groups together in your confusion, study a bit more with a gray mindset, not so black and white. You speak in generalizations that murder an ability to see the specifics, and the players.

[Isaak29]

OK, wise guy.

Then tell me who are the players, and why they became angry at the US, if the CIA just withdrew from Afghanistan, rather than staying there doing things?

[afg96]

No the Afghans are pissed because America is not blaming Afghanistan for doing 911 which they didn't do Bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia why not attack Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia is providing America oil Bin Laden is a former CIA agent it is a program that they are working you wouldn't get it.

[Isaak29]

I can agree with you on the Saudi Arabia. Yeah, the US is being soft and making friends with those people for the black gold, and the majority of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

That I understand, but I think Bin laden, being a CIA agent in the past is not necessarily something to think that the US planned 9/11.

Remember that the CIA trained them to fight against the Soviets. That doesn't mean that Bin laden and his gang were gonna be CIA forever. Just until the Soviets were out.

[afg96]

Yes but the thing is that Bin Laden lived in USA before I don't know whether the USA planned 911 or not but I know one think for sure A Real Muslim person would never ever kill innocent people.

[Isaak29]

I have a question: How you know Bin laden lived in the US? I've never read, or found anything like that.

I'm not asking sarcastically, I'm asking for real.

[afg96]

Ask any Middle Eastern or Afghan any Arab or Persian would tell you that. I know this because I know that he was a former CIA agent. In order to become a CIA agent you need to be American and graduated from University.

[Isaak29]

Well, I read and heard in many places that Osama Bin laden was trained by the CIA, and they helped him. But that he was an actual agent, that I really never read, or heard.

There's a difference between actually becoming a CIA agent, and being helped, funded, and trained by the CIA.

But if he actually WAS CIA, then it's pretty interesting. They must've had done a damn good job concealing it.

[afg96]

Yes and that is why people are trying to get answers

[xGH3x]

you have got to be fucking me. "a real muslim would never kill innocent people"

MUSLIMS have been killing people, INNOCENT AND GUILTY for the past 2000 years over what. religoun.

i wish this wasnt true and thats not my opinion, its a fact.

[afg96]

Will you got your facts wrong many of my relatives work for U.S government and secret agencies and I think they would know better than you and trust me Real Muslims are the best in the world because killing people is against our religion! This is a fact because it is in Our Holy Qur'an.

[xGH3x]

i dont give a fuck what your U.S goverment relatives say. my DAD was in the CIA during this time and maybe he can tell you that osama had not worked for the CIA EVER> That is a fact. Now he worked with the CIA during the soviets war in afganistan but not for them and then he tried bombing the WTC in the early 90s.

[xGH3x]

Yes, killing is against the muslim religoun, but muslims kill jews and zionists for fun anyway. kids blowthem selves up for your "allah"

the nazis bieleved killing was against there religoun but they did it anyway.

dont feel offended though, i am christian, so were the nazis. my relgoun stated killing is against our religoun but the nazis did it anyway.

its simply goes down to disobiedience to our gods and free will

[afg96]

No, this is not true because most of our Prophets (Peace Be Upon Them) where Jewish. In order to be Muslim you must believe in Four Holy Books that is The Towra (Jewish Scripture), Sabbian Scripture, Holy Bible, and The Holy Qur'an these are all the books that Only One and I say One God send down to us but they have been changed that is why God send down the Holy Qur'an that is why God promised us that The Holy Qur'an would never be changed

[afg96]

maybe you are talking about arabs but a real Muslim would never ever do that!

[itokio1337]

Same goes for the crusaders

[PNACATTACKdotCOM]

crusaders like neocons were/are  FUNDAMENTALIST CHISTIAN TERRORISTS

[chris2002Rocklin]

The sad thing is that it sounds like a troll, but everything I said can be backed up by facts provable in any court of law by any standard of proof.

Mohamed learned "the book" from caravan clients. He believed there were "errors" (ok?) Later he has dreams about "allah" the moon god of the Pagan temple, is now "the God of the Bible". Maybe "yaweh" and "allah" sounded similar and he thought "I have it, they are the same!" He thought he had the unifying principal. Then he attacked Pagans

[chris2002Rocklin]

Then he attacked Pagans on the Pagan holiday "Ramadan", and because he won (no Pagans ever made war on Ramadan before), Mohamed inferred that God favored him.

No you know what passes for "proof" in Islam.

I think it appealed to their cultural pride, and ever since then, the lie that Islam corrects "the book" is just part of the culture they learn with their first words as children. They have almost no capacity to think critically about truth. Those that do, reject Islam. They are then killed.

[bonzaibb12]

@chris2002Rocklin Unfortunately the same hold true for the New Testament too do a serious study and you will see the entire NT was not written by 1 single deciple and Paul who wrote most of it never met Jesus and declared himself a deciple. Its all in Wikipedia with plenty of references also there is a in depth course on youtube given at Yale type in ( why study the New Testament) Most of the OT is good but some professors question the book of Daniel. God Bless

[afg96]

I know what you are saying and that is why im reaserching this to understand more better and why actually planned 911 and who the illuminati is.

[toludoc]

why is the CIA ever muted in issues concerning then when the whole world knows they are involved in sponsoring causes hat are now many headedhydra worms? take for instance the making of al qaeda.

[seabear145]

america forget what you did to other wil happen to you. its the time now

but it shows very important thing..........

AMERICAN ARE SELFISH, AND CRUEL.

[hogger129]

I wouldn't necessarily say it was the whole CIA. It was the "Secret Team." A few people high up at the very center of the CIA pulling everyone else's strings. Half the time, the President and much of the White House are in on it too. But the money bin Laden received wasn't a family fortune at all. It was money laundered through fake business fronts by the CIA, sent to bin Laden in the name of fighting terrorism. Part of it was probably opium money too.

[whitewolfsarctic]

Sovjet Union can't be trusted, I mean Unionism in generally is simply too confederate. The Kosovo war dismanteled the Sovjet Union which is the possible basis of revenge for 9/11, so who are the Sovjet Union?

Might they be the same people as the Union Banking Corporation and the European Union?

[hogger129]

Well look at how they were so afraid of the Soviet Union. I agree it was in the better interest of the country sometimes to try to find out what the Soviets were up to. But look. Vietnam, Korea... wars cause lives. Lives of the good young men of this country. It isn't worth it. And look. Their economy collapsed. We beat them in the end. And now look at China. Largest economy in the world. We gotta change our style on things. Not communism. But more regulation to build a stronger economy.

[hogger129]

That guy is a liar. The CIA DID give the Mujahadeen aid. They DID pass them weapons. I wouldn't be surprised if they were also using heroin proceeds to help fund them. Kind of the same way Air America was doing to aid the Laotians against the communists.

[hogger129]

Now all the stuff they taught them how to do is coming back to bite them in the ass over there huh?

Bin Laden never made his money in oil. Bin Laden's fortune is actually a cover for the laundered money he received off the books from the CIA through Bush's oil businesses.

[Am3THR]

USA is cruel

they fund the mujha hadeen

and the soviets are funded by them aswell

and then they sit back with popcorn

and watch them kill each other

[zzzbbb123456]

In the last stage of WWII the american found

a Vietnames antijapan resistence man, wich the trained to better fight the japanese invaders in vietnam. His name Ho Chi Mihn.

[Hperman09]

@zzzbbb123456 Your comment 2 year ago. It was not until the France try to recolonize the country. If France give them independence like what the Brits did with India, then Vietnam war would have not happened then many Allied lives were spared there. Ho-chi-Minh was a hero not until we sold us out South Vietnamese to communist. That why The US turns it's back to support the French or else they won't joined NATO.

[mail062000]

ironic eh

[OMGdancingpandas]

We basically taught the Afghanis how to destroy our country too :| This sucks. Bad move on the CIA's part.

[PreservingLiberty]

Viva la revolution

July 12th Washington D.C. MARCH!

Check out the Videos

[barb0025]

i swear the cunts who run america, couldn't give a fuck about the people of the world, it's all about thier interests,greedy immoral scum. makes me proud to be a nonacheiving aussie

[alkedda]

Doo dee dodo... Hey! Anyone want a burger?

[lgirl7]

the black and white ?

[xxdrbangbangxx]

Soo... Usa help osama, now osama is the enemy number 1 of the united states insteresting.....

[Aurinkohirvi]

Osama is sold as the number one enemy to the American PUBLIC. He is number one ally to Bush and his politics. Thanks to Osama, He got the public opinion of the world to accept wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and got his second term.

[jestice75]

Ironic.. not really interesting. If you understand anything about history it makes perfect sense and is boring and slightly ironic. When you're at odds with Russia and the whole world can end because of it, your enemy's enemy is your friend. Even if it is a bunch of dirty arabs.

[mied79]

They have distroyed the world! It's sad

[timeisamagazine]

Is there a second part of this? What is the source of this?

[MoreRockin]

Sky Television -- Secrets of the CIA (2005)

New mainstream documentary run-down of the global devastation caused by the Central Intelligence Agency over the last 60 years. Features commentary with authors and journalists. Fails to mention that the "interests" to be protected are on Wall Street

[timeisamagazine]

Awesome. :) Thanks. I'm writing a research paper on this.

[hyperkinetic]

Dig deep, and please post a link to your paper when it's finished.

[timeisamagazine]

docs.google. com/Doc?id=dg824c45_6fbz6wz

There's a space in there because it wouldn't let me post the link.

[mrfrosty8172]

@MoreRockin authors and journalists

some are good

but most are media whores

[MrLMULES]

So what's the interest now? Opium, Oil pipelines?

[z8it]

Bingo! and Bingo!

[joebonk]

theyd never show this in the USA

[FightTheElite]

They never show anything important in the USA, unless all other options have been exhausted.