Billy Taylor Meets Max Roach

[PublicEnemy04]

o-kay boss!

[Easleytee]

Aside from Max's work with Brownie...overrated.

[alicecooper19isback]

I see now where John Bonham got his drumming influences

[95Galante]

Is that Joe Williams at the start?

[Bacell20]

Is that Virgil Jones on trumpet?

[JazzVideoGuy]

@Bacell20 Good eye!

[nsligegabdjsyfedsoi]

Isn't that 'trumpet' a flugelhorn?

[k1mothy]

@Bacell20 - Flugelhorn, but I think you're right!

[1DIKOD]

The grins of the musicians at the solos conclusions especially the second just say it all!

[RogerioMgouveia]

I made two of Max Roach, are in my channel! When you can see I would be grateful!

[VJDxp]

Makes it look easy. No sweat.

[pgc6265]

Whenever i hear max roach i want to run to my kit & play simply for the joy of it. I know he's not as smooth or fast or whatever as others out there but he's so musical it doesn't matter 1 bit.

[danielorbis666]

que bestia mil respetos y la pionta de niño bueno

[danielorbis666]

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[Drumguy1988]

Wonder why Max Switched to Match Grip.

[Vidolizer]

@THEspindoctor84: Look at 4:31 - the drums are positioned so he can reach them all with the same arm shape. It doesn't matter what it looks like to US - it matters what it feels like to HIM.

@william20100: If the bottom hat is larger than the top, he gets more bite when he hits the edge.

[william20100]

has anyone else noticed that his bottom hat is larger than the top one. Has anyone reading this tried such a set up? I so, what were the results?

[THEspindoctor84]

I havent tried this, but you can also notice that his second rack tom is higher than his first one, which is also strange

[pektus5]

better chick sound,when play with foot

[konbitkreyol]

A Tribute to Max Roach

[PissoDeStrisso]

AWESOME

the roots of bonham's solos style

[myhandhurts2]

Max Roach!!

[ThatDrumer]

what am i here for

good vid

[Patrickphx11]

What is the name of the song?????!!!!!!!

[battiemuddie]

what am I here for

max roach recorded it with cliford brown in 1955 - a great album - one of my all time favorite

[winnerbaby44]

hope travis and joey are watch this so they have a clue about what they are doing

[MrDownbeat]

best in the past 35 years! try best of all time motherfucker!!!!!

[bendinggreenvans]

smooth :P

[bensinstod]

what kind of snare drum is this ?

[OldSteamer]

i was thinking the same

[BarrioPatrol]

Ludwig Supraphonic 400, made of spun aluminum.

[BrunoJazzmanLeicht]

When legends meet. Great!

Best,

Brew

[soulhed72]

great footage, i'm 36 too damn young to see the real shit back in the day. wish I was twice my age to experience it firsthand!

[padleynj]

i've been a jazzophile since around 1955,

but then a little to young for the clubs. that was my favorite era, hard-bop, cool, third stream, etc. i've going to clubs since the early 60's which has been the most fruitful experiences of my life. seen 'm all!

[rogelito]

He was reverent when he would put on cuts by the Fletcher Henderson orchestra and break them down for us. And he was like a kid with eyes wide when he spoke of standing in front of the Check Webb orchestra and soaking up the vibes of that master drummer.

[rogelito]

I was fortunate enough to be at UMass when Max was a professor there. Just to watch him rehearse his band was a doctorate level experience, I felt. And when he'd teach jazz history, it was his remembrances of Bird and so forth...amazing. He was also a student and disciple of the legends that came before him.

[Airman410]

It is discouraging to see people making negative comments about the quality of Max's playing, and to also see people defend Max by saying, "he was older in this video so he wasn't as good as when he was younger". This video shows that at a point in Max's life when he was experimenting with newer and outside of the box styles that he could still play with tons of "technique and speed". His opening solo and solo at 4:05 show that he maintained his speed and technique into his older years.

[oldhacks]

thanks for all these wonderful posts.

[bagilla2000]

there is a track by a band called cinematic orchestra in which the solo played by roach at 4:04 is used...I think their drummer loops about 8 bars...and on top of this the band made a new arrangement. I forgot the song..its on their album motion.

In my opinion Max is a master, simply because most of his solos are hummable (if thats the word) they are melodies rather then flashy demonstrations.

thats just what I think

[1hipgig]

just so everybody understands. THE reason Max is so revered is because he was a PIONEER. He invented it. So for all the drummers that transcribe. That's what I do too. To understand any great musician, just listen to what was being played 5 to 10 years before they played. To the young drummers who don't understand Max, listen to "A Blues Note" from Sonny Rollins (1955 I think)...that beat is the basis for what EVERY modern jazz drummer does today

[Sloppydrummer]

there are a lot of well know jazz high school's. berkeley california high school is home to a lot of well known jazz musicians. keep practicing man and you'll find your place.

[jltheriot]

This was real good

I dont know what to think of Max Lots of people treat him like a god but Ive never heard that from him

I guess I must be missing something.

[playswithpassion]

well it's kinda subtle if you aren't listening for it...it's his phrasing and his really good solo ideas...especially in trading fours. which you won't see in this video.

[1hipgig]

just so everybody understands. THE reason Max is so revered is because he was a PIONEER. He invented it. So for all the drummers that transcribe. That's what I do too. To understand any great musician, just listen to what was being played 5 to 10 years before they played. To the young drummers who don't understand Max, listen to "A Blues Note" from Sonny Rollins (1955 I think)...that beat is the basis for what EVERY modern jazz drummer does today

[drummer78]

You make excellent points. I think some of the young kids who say, "this is crap...no blast beats" are just beyond talking to intelligently at this point. It's like trying to have a logical discussion with a pug. Anyway, if they love the drums as they mature, then I think they'll come to realize the importance of Max Roach. Until then, I just try to avoid reading their dopey comments on youtube.

[radDude5000]

Nice one dude, thats exactly it. not sayin you have to love jazz but if your serious then you need to know about max, philly joe etc , Bonham did i think ...

[drummer78]

Bonham was a fan of Krupa and Rich. Max is a drum legend because he is responsible for literally changing the language of the kit and how drummers express themselves. Hopefully the Travis kids will realize the history and come to appreciate Max. I think too many now are infactuated with beats per minute stuff. Like I stated before, I think understanding drummers like Max does require some degree of musical maturity.

[claritydj]

man i wish everyone still wore suits when they played the drums.

[chuckkenn]

awesome cokin bass player. great flg, sax and piano. max cooks though i still like him better playing traditional grip. his ideas will live forever great energy by the whole band on a traditional bluesy tune.

[truetothemusic]

Virrgil Jones sound great on Flugelgorn. I dont think hes ever made a record under his name. Still has time though

[SnapshotsMusic]

You have to keep in mind a few things about Max. He had his own language that was totally modern and changed how drummer played to the music. He may have also had health or technique issues that challenged him in later years- how can you keep playing 350bpm tempos at 60yrs of age? Listen to the 40s & 50s material, then go into the 70s on- yes there was a change. Its also hard to understand why some of these great drummers played on rock kits with little tone.

[playswithpassion]

well you see in the 40's and 50's resonant heads weren't used, so their drums didn't resonate like the standard of sets today...also, an 18" bass drum head or smaller is not really a rock kit...it's pretty jazz.

[teiscoxx]

Since Max has passed I've been revisting his playing. I went to Umass when he was a "Professor" there. I remember his playing was spotty at best and much of the YouTube offerings support what I remember. His intro really strikes me as random and his solo breaks from the form of the tune.

[futboler454]

I think you should listen to it again count the form out during his solo.

[nicholas9999]

fut: Why should you expect someone to maintain his same level of skill into his older years. The fact is, drumming requires lots of technique, and a lot of energy. If a guy is not playing every day, he will lose some edge.

[gregmorrow]

could you give me a reason why we should be interested in someone's drumming, who wasn't playing everyday, who lost his skill because of old age?

[nicholas9999]

greg: Don't know if your comment is directed at me. Roach contributed hugely to jazz, especially bebop. Maybe people want to see a legend, sort of like some people want to watch arnold palmer play golf, even tho' he can't play like he used to.

[gregmorrow]

My comment is directed at you,Nicholas and at everybody.

We know about his contribution to Jazz.

IMHO, it's interesting to see that Mr. Roach still could play at that age, but I can't call his playing fantastic.

[nicholas9999]

gregmorrow: Thanks for clearing that up! Instead of wasting my time, jackass, why not simply state your case to begin with. Children should stay off the damn web.

[playswithpassion]

Agreed. All the people talking negative about Max Roach are just 16 year olds with a boner for chops in drumming and nothing else. they have no taste in jazz solo phrasing or the real musicality required to play that free while still keeping time. He played amazing up until his death and while it's all an opinion, talking poorly of him is a mockery to what his life achievements were.

god, I don't even know why people like us bother reading all their bullshit. makes my blood boil.

[drumgod629]

not true... when I was 16 I wasn't as close minded as most dumbasses that can't respect jazz... or max for that matter...

fucking shit... people need to actually listen and stop being so fucking cynical and look at what these drummers have done...

there's a reason he's famous, and regarded as one of the greatest musicians who ever lived...

PEOPLE! stop bein ignorant...

dude above me... thank you for being able to see what a masterpeice this is...

[playswithpassion]

THANK YOU!!!

I knew there had to be someone on here that has a real respect and open mind for music of all forms.

I applaud you.

[drumkid2492xx]

i dont get it im 16 and jazz is truely my favorite style i guess im a minority in this case  only cause im one on the only real jazz drummer in my school and its a shame nobody listens to jazz as much anymore

[playswithpassion]

yea, most people don't have the attention span for it and it just doesn't click with them because it doesn't have that "dance-able" pulse that has become so popular with today's pop music. I'm getting so into jazz lately, it's the style I'm working on honing the most now.

[FLCL2010]

uhh the first reason jazz was popular was the danceable pulse. I think its just attention span. I think i know what ur talking about though, but its not all jazz. Most people do not even know what jazz really is, they think it is elevator music.

[playswithpassion]

That's not what makes jazz so special though...jazz of this caliber isn't the kind that's meant to be danced to, I think Buddy says it best.

And I was also referring to the times now and why jazz doesn't have nearly the same mainstream popularity it had back then.

[j4zzDrumm3r]

man i here you, we don't get much of an audience at our high school jazz concerts no matter how much we spread the word. jazz is the language of musicians and can only be appreciated by people who REALLY understand music. i uploaded some vids from our last concert, it'd be cool if some people could check it out.

[drummer78]

High schools are full of pimple faced adolescents, square parents, and burnt out administrators and teachers (or do-goodie types). I mean, your h.s. band experience is great but maybe you can find a small group of like minded folks and play at some cool loft parties with artsty folks who will love you.

[drumgod629]

not always true... I actually find If i take a day or two off from my practice and come back completley eager and refreshed, I play much better... it really depands on how your mind works...

[nicholas9999]

drumgod: We're not talking about taking a day or two, we're talking about guys who are being put on as a show for others, but who are not playing in a working band on a regular basis. Basically not fair to Roach.

[playswithpassion]

He should because it all lines up. Spotty at best, more like spot on you dipshit...I don't even need to hear you play and I can say with confidence you don't hold a candle to his groove and solo phrasing.

[FLCL2010]

Go to an ARTS acadamey if you can. I went on a tour recently of high schools playing jazz and the arets school is the only one who actually knew chick corea.

[playswithpassion]

Thanks, I'll look into it.

[Dyintryin]

. Go and listen to the early stuff on CD with Clifford Brown and then try and get some of his shit down.This great musician is the father of modern drumming, be it rock jazz, pop or whatever.without his work you would not be in a position to play your weekend top 40 covers gigs or whatever half arsed shit you probably play. YOUR opinion is not valid at all. Do not try and summarise the work and achievements of a legend with words like SPOTTY you moron.WHAT the F**K does spotty mean. A HOLE

[tbcass]

Dickheads like you like to build themselves up by putting others down. His playing here is fine. I like it. When you went to UMass you were just a young punk who thought you knew it all when you should have been honored to even be in the same room with Roach.

[Antiks72]

@tbcass Max Roach killed it as usual.

[ladnarrisMD]

Not a trumpet, tis a flugelhorn...

... Max is kickin' it, always intrigued by the choice of match over traditional, interesting!

Another legend in this video worth mentioning, both by person and jazz mastery- Billy Taylor; make's them ivory's sing!

... P.S., yyyruu- piss off 'n practice tosser!

[325NEK]

R.I.P Max. Long live one of the greatest jazz drummers of ALL TIME!

[billypistol]

He is a god

[GOTIRES]

yOUR MUSIC LIVES ON.

R.I.P

[kevindblake]

r.i.p.

[Achkidawa]

Lahirahmou... he will be forever in our hearts....Max Roach 1925-2007

[blutocampbell]

He was born in 1924.Max Roach 1924-2007

[yyyruu]

fuck him

[sam990]

or....fuck you ....

[Bradlyc01]

Great video! Anyone know the trumpet player? Maybe Patrick Rickman?

[vitesenzafine]

No, Virgil Jones. Fathead Newman on tenor and Victor Gaskin on bass, 1981.

[tayfunb]

maximum max roach :) thnx for sharing

[cujazztrpt]

Very nice!