SCO supports Russia's role in S. Ossetia

[aviomaster]

RebLaCrusade --- God bless RUSSIAn federation ,, only hope for the FREE world ... SERBIA does not want to be DEBT nation ...

[RebLaCrusade]

What ever dude NATO is too a security organization, so is the SCO. How is it not a counter balance? If you want to create a military block then go right ahead but don't be all secretive about it.

[Cnupoc]

@RebLaCrusade .... it's a security organization but it's not a counter to NATO !!! what's the hell can you not understand there O_o

[aviomaster]

USA zionist shits ,, did the same thing in KOSOVO ,,, GOD BLESS RUSSIA .. THANK you without you world would be USA slave .. for bombs and killings ,, FUCK USA ./

[sgc1020]

what has Russia done to stop the US.

[BaltiSkandidos]

I Love SCO! I Love UNASUR! I Love Chavez! I Love Medvedev!

[diuleeseafood]

Support!!!! from your Chinese comrades!!!!

[GeorgianFlag]

Vldimir (Vova) + Dmitri (Dimochka)= Big Sexy couple.

[GeorgianFlag]

В ближайщем будущем прогнозируют инициативы о независимотей в т.ч. и из тех автономий РФ, которые пока никогда этого не требовали. Так что скатертью вам дорога по Сепаратии - Империя Зла!

Сталин не с такой лёгкой руки латал СССР, как это порешали развалить, с бухты-барахты (за два дня) Указами о независимостях два маленких дурака в лице Штирлица-Вовы и Клосса-Димочки. Ха :) !

[eimsori]

это тока твои мечты. если граждане хотят остаться в составе той или иной страны, ни одна страна не имеет права их отделить. так что свои мечты в жопу себе засунь

[GeorgianFlag]

В ближайщем будущем прогнозируют инициативы о независимотей в т.ч. и из тех автономий РФ, которые пока никогда этого не требовали. Так что скатертью вам дорога по Сепаратии - Империя Зла!

Сталин не с такой лёгкой руки латал СССР, как это порешали развалить, с бухты-барахты (за два дня) Указами о независимостях два маленких дурака в лице Штирлица-Вовы и Клосса-Димочки. Ха :) !

[planettan]

US warship to Georgian port partly held by Russia

By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer

34 minutes ago (Sept. 5, 2008)

POTI, Georgia - The flagship of the U.S.(6th Fleet ) Navy's Mediterranean fleet anchored outside a key Georgian port Friday, defiantly bringing in tons of humanitarian aid to a city still partly occupied by hundreds of Russian troops.

[planettan]

(AP excerpt, cont'd)

The USS Mount Whitney was the first Navy ship to travel to Poti since Georgia's five-day war with Russia last month. The continued presence of Russian troops here has been a major point of friction between Russia and the West, which insists Russia has failed to honor a deal to pull back to positions held before fighting broke out Aug. 7.

The in-your-face anchorage at Poti came as Vice President Dick Cheney visited nearby Ukraine,....

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

"Maneuvering and Fighting are two different things. Armies have been doing that for thousands of years. ... It's nothing new."

You are deadly wrong! Military Maneuvering, posturing and provocations among the old European powers (and the fnckng Japanese) were the causes that started WWI and WWII. You really need to read up on history!

lastly, let me clarify one thing, unlike the USA, China had not established military bases outside of China,... not yet.

[LordBLB]

@little planettan

1. the U.S. and Russia will NEVER fight a war against one another.

2. China DOES need the U.S. FOR THE TIME BEING. (you keep seeming to miss that).

3. China's economy is FRAGILE at best, being a new industrial nation (last 50 years boom).

4. You're overcomplicating things and waving your country's flag around instead of looking at facts (which shows your ignorance).

5. We HAVE NO REASON TO HATE CHINA AS A PEOPLE.

6. You underestimate regular citizens.

The End

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

here are my responses to your nonsense:

1. bullshit! Russian and US axis warships are crowdings in small waters, anything can happen at any moment.

2. get over it! China can write off USA market with a stroke of pen, screw the Americans, a.k.a. planet chewing assholes!

Currently, the US with a mere 5% of world population but consume more than 30% of the world natural resources.

And WTF are the Americans contributing to the world? MORE F#$KNG wars!

[LordBLB]

@little planettan

You seriously need a reality check. NO country on any importance on this rock we call Earth is self-reliant. We NEED EACH OTHER!

I don't wave a damn American flag around and preach about how good the U.S. is (like you do with China).

I would rather see EVERYONE FREE with NO borders between us. We are ALL human and have to share the same fucking planet.

You sir, are a judgemental idiot. The world would be a better place if you would practice a little understanding.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

3. China economy is one of the fastest growing in the world. US economy is in decline, recession looming, e.g. subprime morgate lending, 10 banks bankrupted/closed, billions of tax payers are wasted in attempt to salvage the overpriced housing markets and their corrupted lenders. US lost most manufacturing jobs rapidly, soon majority Americans will work for Asian companies.

4. trash! your tunnel-vision/essembly-line bookwarm mind can't see the whole picture of things.

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[LordBLB]

"4. trash! your tunnel-vision/essembly-line bookwarm mind can't see the whole picture of things."

And I say the same fucking thing about you sir.

[cbong1993]

LordBLB you better shut up. Russia and China are the good ally ( anti axis) the axis = nazito (sorry I mean nato lol). Russia and China create a new organization called SCO you get it?

[LordBLB]

cbong1993...

No my friend. Your mind needs to realize that IF a war ever breaks out between the U.S. and Allies, against Russia and China. We are ALL FUCKED. It's the most horrible thing that could happen to mankind as a whole.

The U.S. alone has enough nukes to wipe out mankind completely (12,000+ known). Let alone the amount that Russia, China, and rest have.

Will NEVER happen. None of those countries are DUMB enough to start that war. It's just going to be a lot of smack-talk. Thats all...

[cbong1993]

U.S and their allies vs China and allies you mean? The NATO will fell, and the SCO will bring peace to the world (So no country can ditact the world). America is just say they are a peace democratic country (with propaganda), but they try to ditact he whole world!!!

[LordBLB]

cbong1993...

You apparently missed the part where I mentioned that it's a war that you, nor I, want to take place...EVER. It would mean the end of mankind as we know it.

Understand?

[BaltiSkandidos]

if USA start to destroy their own nukes, then we will also do that..

But since USA - a nuclear country - contidnues to threat Iran - i nuclearless country - we will of corse support Iranian nuclear tecnology, and thats why we are blocking all effective UN-sanctions.

USA proves that Iran NEEDS nuclear weapons!

[LordBLB]

"USA proves that Iran NEEDS nuclear weapons!"

Whatever you say...

I personally think Iran should be allowed to develope them. And if they are dumb enough to use them against Israel or anyone else in the region, the U.S., and everyone else will have the excuse they need to wipe them off the face of the Earth. I say, let them make that mistake, if they so choose.

But until then, I don't care what they do, so long as they don't harm anyone doing it.

[BaltiSkandidos]

well.. he point is that USA has no longer the ability to fight Iran...,.  USA weapons exist only in hollywood-movies... not reality...

What about Mexico? USA belings to Mexican Mafia ,:-)

[LordBLB]

"USA weapons exist only in hollywood-movies... not reality..."

No idea why you would think we need Hollywood to glamerize our weaponry. Considering almost every country in the middle-east is using weapons and vehicles that the U.S. or U.N. sold to them. Why did we do that? Because they were old and we have better weapons now...

"What about Mexico? USA belings to Mexican Mafia"

Ok, now you're just making stuff up... lol!

[LordBLB]

Continued from previous comment...

Listen, I as well almost every person I know her in the U.S., have no problem with Russia, China, the SCO, or Iran. It's our dumbass government that keeps propogating this stuff. Most Americans are getting wise to their lies finally. We can't believe anything they say. They've lost the trust of their own citizens.

Overall, they won't pick a fight with Iran. Not because we couldn't win. But because they know American citizens wouldn't stand for a 3rd war...

[BaltiSkandidos]

you should make a revoloution... You will not get rid of these persons with elections.. becos there are a weapon-lobby and oil-lobby and the jewish-own media, who has even more power than your president...

they are so very very dangerous.. they will start a world war if you dont make revoloution and kill them if they dont leave the power...

[LordBLB]

"they are so very very dangerous.. they will start a world war"

If it ever comes to them waging that war you speak of, they will have more to deal with than just other countries.

I see the problem as simply this. Americans need to start voting for the 3rd Party candidates running for office, and stop listening to the media. Men like Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul and such. It seems those 3rd Party people think the way most Americans, along with the world do... They are the true statesmen.

[TheWeasel81]

years of americans raping other countries is enough, they wouldnt win against iran just like iran couldnt attacked the usa homeland.

[LordBLB]

'they wouldn't win against iran'

That's where you're dead wrong. It depends on the situation. If Iran stay the relatively passive Iran it is right now, then no, the U.S. could not win, because it's own citizens would not support the war. However, if Iran gave them a solid reason to fight, say, like an open attack on U.S. soil or territory. They Iran would be crushed. It's all about the Moral of the people. No country can win a war without the support of its people. Doesn't matter who.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

Your stupidity here is failing to see that US is trying to change that balance by installing missiles defense systems around Russia and China.

Current NATO expansions to Russia's borders are clearly an aggressive provocation. Russia already stated that it will point nuclear missiles at Poland.

Your money-over-everything argument is STUPID!

In case of military showdown with USA/NATO, CHINA CAN NOT AFFORD TO STAND ASIDE AND LET Russia be destroyed, BCUZ CHINA WOULD BE NEXT.

[LordBLB]

"You are deadly wrong!"

Haha! Whatever dude. I've studied military history all the way back through Sumarian times. This is a COMMON thing. And rarely results in war when both sides are strong enough. Any reference you make to some crazy fucker who started a war, is a reference to a time when the balance of power is greatly in favor of one side (Hitler, Napoleon, etc.). The ONLY exception is CIVIL WAR. It's strategic.

Simply NOT the case in today's world. For the moment at least.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

re: history and warfare, you don't know wtf u r talking about. Like the USA today, Hiltler thought he had military advantages over other European powers, AND the mathrfnckr thought pre-emptive strikes were his only path to Nazi's glory!

US military posturings around the world and military hedgemonic activities in many ways were very similar to the Germany.

[LordBLB]

"US military posturings around the world and military hedgemonic activities in many ways were very similar to the Germany."

HAHA! Whatever man. You're making me laugh with your non-sense.

[LordBLB]

"Russia already stated that it will point nuclear missiles at Poland."

Duh! But how many missiles were pointed at the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. during the Cold War??? And yet nothing happened??? Wow...

You're also shitting yourself if China thinks Russia would even require them to defend themselves... Russia is FINE. LOL! They control 40% of the energy supplied to the EU. They have more than enough leverage.

But alas, I'm talking to a brick wall. You're a pessamist. And I'm an optimist.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

"You're also shitting yourself if China thinks Russia would even require them to defend themselves..."

You fool! as in geopolitics, in warfare you need as many allies as you can get. WTF do you think US/NATO Axis keep expanding their Axis memberships all the way to Russia's borders for? Let me give you a clue, they want to overhelm Russia.

[LordBLB]

@little planettan

LOL! You make me laugh. You should stop. You're making your people look bad.

Look at it like this, and try to understand instead of lashing out mmmkay punkin?

Occupations NEVER succeed. For THAT reason, the mythical WW3 wont happen.

Look at it like this. Russia, China, and the U.S. are all holding matches (nukes). But they are all standing up their waist in gasoline. Does it really matter who drops the match? NO, because ALL 3 countries are fucked if it happens.

Got it?

[LordBLB]

"You fool! as in geopolitics, in warfare you need as many allies as you can get."

You can't seem to grasp the roll that money plays in all this. It's like talking to a tree with you...

Russia doesn't 'need' China. It's nice to have them there, yes. But they are not 'needed'. Like I said, Russia controls 40% of the energy for the EU. There's their leverage. China is just a bonus.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

"Russia doesn't 'need' China. It's nice to have them there, yes. But they are not 'needed'. Like I said, Russia controls 40% of the energy for the EU. There's their leverage. China is just a bonus."

I think you are a fnctard American shill who pretend to act stupid and talk "optimistic" craps while your government and military are doing just the opposite of what you have said so far.

[LordBLB]

"I think you are a fnctard American shill who pretend to act stupid and talk "optimistic"

You sir, are an idiot if you would judge ME as a person, based on what my country's government does. Don't you see how stupid that is?

I'm a Ron Paul supporter and avidly hope and work to get this man into the office of President. The world would LOVE Ron Paul. And he is slowly changing politics in America for the better. However, all good things take time.

[planettan]

correction:

This is quite a big HOLE in your understanding of US military hegemonic activities in the world. You should read Mearsheimer's books/writings! US foreign policies (including warships in Black Sea right now) are directly from Mearshiemer's "Offensive Realism" ideologies.

[LordBLB]

@little planettan

I've read and will keep reading books and information I think is intelligently written by authors from experienced backgrounds. Get this through your THICK skull...I DON'T DO CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Got that?

Yes, the U.S. military has made MANY mistakes since the end of WW2. And most educated Americans are aware of them, but we cannot pick up guns quite yet. Trust me when I say, people here are unhappy with their government. And if things don't change soon...well...you know

[planettan]

"And YES, there is such a thing as "global economy" We are ALL co-dependant on one another at an ever increasing rate. Like it or not."

This is quite an intelligent statement and I agree. But, again, co-dependency by itself will not prevent the possibility of WW3 from happening, NOT BCUZ of China or Russia, but bcuz of US military hegemonic foreign policies around world.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

"As for Mearsheimer, hes an idiot. And someone I don't read, for exactly that reason. You cant take information from ONE book and think it controls things. Its only a very small part of the world stage."

This is quite a big whole in your understanding of US military hegemonic activities in the world. You should read Mearsheimer's books/writings! US foreign policies (including warships in Black Sea right now) are directly from Mearshiemer's "Offensive Realism" ideologies.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

your point "China is in bed with the US" or (to paraphrase) because of economic interests China chose to remain 'neutral' over Georgia.

In response to that I post a series of comments to show the irrational and dangerous behaviors of US government and military both in US and abroad.

The bottom line: "global economies" or globalization is just another theory,...China can see what US is doing abroad, dancing may be, but sleeping with the U.S.A. FAT CHANCE!

China is with Russia.

[LordBLB]

"China is in bed"

*BUZZER* Wrong I said they were "bedfellows". Meaning they are tied together via trade and a fragile economy. That can change. ITS NOT LITTERAL.

As for Mearsheimer, hes an idiot. And someone I dont read, for exactly that reason. You cant take information from ONE book and think it controls things. Its only a very small part of the world stage.

And YES, there is such a thing as "global economy" We are ALL co-dependant on one another at an ever increasing rate. Like it or not.

[LordBLB]

"your point "China is in bed with the US" or because of economic interests China chose to remain 'neutral' over Georgia."

China WILL stay 'militarily' neutral. So will the U.S. Money talks and bullshit walks. And currently, there is a shitload of money tied up between the U.S. and China. China won't risk their BOOMING economy just to take a couple of shots over Georgia. Wont happen. And the U.S. won't risk a war with their biggest trade partner (China). It always comes down to money my friend.

[planettan]

"China WILL stay 'militarily' neutral. So will the U.S. Money talks and bullshit walks."

You're what I call an "assembly line reader" on world events and your 'assembly line' view of US and China 'are tied in money' and thus they would poke each other militarily reveals your limited understanding of US and China geopolitical maneuvering.

Have you heard of Africa, S.E. Asia and S. America? US just established Africa Command and Navy 4th Fleet in S. America mainly to counter China...

[planettan]

correction:

... and thus they would poke each other militarily reveals your limited understanding of US and China geopolitical maneuvering...

I meant to say:

... and thus they would NOT poke each other militarily reveals your limited understanding of US and China geopolitical maneuvering...

[LordBLB]

"your limited understanding of US and China maneuvering"

You continue to miss my original post. You really are dense.

I'll put this simply for you.

China NEEDS its goods to be bought and sold to the U.S. (LARGEST buyer). Without that, the Chinese economy would suffer GREATLY. It would be the biggest mistake an up-and-coming industrialized nation could make.

So our common enemy??? The fucking BANKS who lend the money to all sides of conflict. MONEY!

Get it NOW? I'm done with you.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

"China NEEDS its goods to be bought and sold to the U.S. (LARGEST buyer)."

BULLSHIT! Asia had surpassed USA as China's biggest market! In five years, Americans won't be able to afford Chinese brands of goods.

Hundreds of Chinese companies doing business with Wal-Mart went bankrupted. China's profit margins outside of US are much higher.

Screw the US market with a mere 5% of world population and without any real manufacturing base, and spending on borrow money.

[LordBLB]

"US and China geopolitical maneuvering"

Maneuvering and Fighting are two different things. Armies have been doing that for thousands of years. Tip-toeing around each other in times of relative peace. It's nothing new. What do you think the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. did during the Cold War? A whole lot of 'maneuvering'. That's it.

Maneuvers DO NOT mean war is upon us. It's the norm. I'm done with this...it's been like 3 days and you still stubbornly stand alone.

To each their own...peace.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

"It's nothing new. What do you think the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. did during the Cold War? A whole lot of 'maneuvering'. That's it."

re: Cold War, USA was lucky that Brezhnev pissed off Mao Zedong, and China aligned with USA to halt USSR from dominating Asia. Secondly, Cold War deterrent was both USSR and USA could mutually annihilate each other.

[planettan]

@littleBLB, as for realization of Mearsheimer's military "Offensive Realism" $600+ billion spent in Iraq so far, US defense budget balloons to $550 billion/year Military expansion or established: Diego Garcia island Guam Island ($15 billion expansion) New Nuke aircraft carrier fleet to Japan Navy 4th Fleet re-established off of S. America Anti-missile systems (STAR WARS)planning for Czech Republic, Poland, Japan, and Australia US pressuring NZ to drop objection of US nuke vessels,...etc.

[planettan]

@littleBLB (cont'd)

It seems to me that Germanic-Anglo 'thinkers' are either very stupid or seemingly running out of new ideas. How else would you explain a freaking University of Chicago professor spent years 'researching' and came up with a vision of 'the future' of SAME F#CKNG OLD BLOODY Europe that started WWI & WWII?

To that I say, it's time these idiotic Germanic-Anglo to move aside, you don't have much new idea to contribute, so STFU.

Status quo is stupid, China can offer more!

[LordBLB]

@planettan

Don't tell me to STFU. I'm an understanding individual, and an intelligent FREE-THINKER.

I don't hate people. And I don't punish unless it's deserved. Kind of like your character, and how you're coming across as an arrogant biggot.

Everything you wrote, has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. If you missed my point, that's not my problem...it's yours. You're apparently too dense to understand what effect Global Economies have on world events...

[planettan]

"Don't tell me to STFU. I'm an understanding individual, and an intelligent FREE-THINKER."

by Germanic-Anglo 'thinkers' I was referring to John Mearsheimer (an international geopolitics and military theorist) and the neo-cons ideologues whose ideological influence on the Bush admin. has created many dangerous flashing points around the world (Georgia is just the tip of the iceberg), those people need to STFU or we'll have ww3.

Don't flatter yourself, u r not quite in that category.

[LordBLB]

First you say...

"you don't have much new idea to contribute, so STFU."

Then you say...

"by Germanic-Anglo 'thinkers' I was referring to John Mearsheimer. Don't flatter yourself, u r not quite in that category."

I think your confused...

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

You need to read up on neo-cons and John Mearsheimer's "Offensive Realism" which Bush admin. had adopted as his military/geopolitical policies.

"Offensive Realism" policies is nothing but the return to pre-WWI Germanic-Anglo mentality...and Mearsheimer himself confirm his theoretical ideological goal in his writing "Back to the Future" which the way of the future will be similar to pre-WWI Europe.

[LordBLB]

@little planettan

"You need to read up on neo-cons"

Wow, shall I get you a tin-foil hat so you can join the other conspiracy loonies? LOL!

And by the way, Bush is fucking idiot. That would be why his approval ratings in the U.S. are down below 30%. The lowest of any president for the past 150 years... He will go down in history as a horrible president.

Your mistake is thinking that Americans agree with Bush. When 70% of us hate the motherfucker...

[planettan]

@littleBLB

"Wow, shall I get you a tin-foil hat so you can join the other conspiracy loonies? LOL!"

Yes, the neo-cons were considered loonies during Bush sr and Clinton admin's,BUT the neo-cons dominated every departments of W. Bush admin. You really need to read up of US current events!

[LordBLB]

"BUT the neo-cons dominated every departments of W. Bush admin. You really need to read up of US current events!"

LOL! They are hated. They are dispised. They disgust American people. Currently one of the presidential candidates, McCain, is trying to distance himself from the Bush administration for exactly that reason. Don't tell me I need to "read up". I fuckin LIVE here... you'd have to be asleep to miss it.

[planettan]

"LOL! They are hated. They are dispised. They disgust American people. Currently one of the presidential candidates, McCain, is trying to distance himself from the Bush administration for exactly that reason. Don't tell me I need to "read up"."

After 9-11, you and "American people" were pretty much muted! "American people" elected W. Bush TWICE!

US media is being controlled by big corporations and the American people are easily brainwashed to elect another dumbass like "Bush" again, or twice!

[planettan]

@littleBLB (cont'd)

The big corporations own all major media who acts as inter-corporation links to other corporations in every thing from controlling the markets to geopolitics.

At the moment, media are being used as a tool to suppress public opposition to neo-cons waring campaigns and to create artificial fears (Russia/China/Iran threats, etc.) just so that congress would increase military spending,etc.

[planettan]

@littleBLB,

my point earlier was this:

there is no rational 'government' entity in US, corporations run and manipulate every thing from what your babies can see/watch/were...to manipulating election, yes you can vote but it is the big money who prop up the 'candidates' for you to vote, etc.

American people are part to blame, but I really don't give a hoot if their stupidity would kill so many people around the world.

[dagnemrth]

A analogy I heard from an economy video: China and US is like 10 people on an island: 9 people are responsible for producing food: the Chinese, and the 1 person is responsible for eating: the demand. Yeah, if the eater dies the 9 will lose their jobs... but how long do you think before they figure: hey, maybe we can eat the food ourselves?

China is on Russia's side, have some common sense. China is like the EU for the Iraq War, not sending in troops does not make them buddies of Arabs

[lookyeahhohon]

The SCO must declare war with NATO asap. We must wipe out all the rouge states including US,UK,EUROPE,JAPAN,AUSTRALIA,I­NIDA. enough is enough.

[angel2901]

SCO sucks! Go West!

[AntiDefm]

Because the China's tremendous economic growth and globalization, Paul Samuelson, Nobel 1970 Laureate, brought up a controversy in 2004 to the previously unchallenged cornerstone of Capitalism -- Free Market. He bluntly pointed out Free Trade may be not longer in the best interests of US. This has shocked the whole academic world. Instead of President Bush repeatedly assurance for Free Trade, US government has taken actions and turned its back on cornerstone of Capitalism.

[AntiDefm]

Instead of your news media have tried to tell you, Americans didn't play the fair capitalist game. Do you know how many complaints have filed to against US at WTO? Even US faithful ally Canada file the suit against US with WTO. On October 15 last year, US lost a WTO case on the cotton subsidies. Do you know why George Bush has to repeatedly assure the world that US is sticking to the "Free Trade" but no one believes him?

[AntiDefm]

Another WTO case against US last year was the $3.4 Billion Antigua and Barbuda case. US Minister of Finance and the Economy, Errol Cort, said on October 11 that US is only willing to pay $0.5 Billion damage claim instead of $3.4 Billion as ruled by WTO. EU said they would file $100 Billion case to against US for its refusal to open up its gaming market. US claimed that it has never intended to open it. What a joke!

[AntiDefm]

BLB: "It depends on the U.S. too much for export"??? You must be kidding! US is begging for Chinese goods. Could you imagine what will happen if US stop all imports of Chinese goods?! Peopel like you will go back to the stone age. You thought that is joking?! Think again! You atre begging china even you don't know that! Don't be brainwashed by your news media!

[AntiDefm]

This is what the US news media wanted you to believe. Since earlier 2006, US senators threatened with Schumer-Graham Bill to slap tariffs of 27.5% on all Chinese goods. What happened then? Why they didn't do it? That turned out to be a joke that even US news media were so embarrassing to mention it again. It is the Capitalist game. US just doesn't have the capability to play it any further, no matter by bluffing, or by exercising the actual economic muscle, US is on its way our of the game!

[LordBLB]

"It depends on the U.S. too much for export"??? You must be kidding! US is begging for Chinese goods."

You're missing my point. By selling those good to Americans, it draws income into the Chinese economy by the boat load. I'm looking at this from the Chinese perspective. They NEED that income to continue to flow for their Commerce. Take away the U.S. and its allies from Chinese trade...and China's economy would buckle. That's simple economics.

So, for the time being...they NEED each other.

[AntiDefm]

BLB: Well, I look at the thing from the perspectives on both side. Americans should be grateful for Chinese made goods that constituting their basic life. Chinese should appreciate the American market, that is still about one-quarter of the total market they are dealing with. Both China and US need each other for trades. And, That is all the capitalism and free trade about. US should not back out from capitalism or free trade because it becomes disadvantageous to them.

[LordBLB]

"Don't be brainwashed by your news media!"

I don't watch Television. I get my information from a higher education, books, and the internet, from multiple points of view.

You should not make assumptions. It makes you look arrogant.

"Peopel like you will go back to the stone age."

Are you kidding me? You seriously underestimate people...

[Schwoorf]

what kind of books?

Harry Potter?:)

[LordBLB]

"Geopolitics: The Geography of International Relations"

"The Second World: Empires and Influence in the New Global Order"

"Global Political Economy, Second Edition: Evolution and Dynamics" "Global Economy, Global Justice: Theoretical Objections and Policy Alternatives to Neoliberalism (Contemporary Political Economy Series)"

Some of my recent reads... Why? Do you like Harry Potter?

[Schwoorf]

stop reading GLOBAL things

about "NEW GLOBAL ORDER"

that will not make you any smarter ..with only knowledge of mickey mouse language:)

try to understand the wisdom of Harry Potter first^^

[LordBLB]

@Schwoorf

"stop reading GLOBAL things

about "NEW GLOBAL ORDER"

Are you dense or just too idiodic to admit you know nothing on the subject?

We ALL live in a GLOBAL Economy and Geo-Politics is prevalent every day. World economies are inter-twined with one another.

It's called an education. Get one and stop reading Harry Potter if you wish to discuss things such as these...

[Schwoorf]

sorry dude

i can spend more money on education then you do:)

for me those useless books are like Harry Potter

i dont have a time for cheap american propaganda books

[LordBLB]

You seriously have no clue do you?

Wow... Two of the authors of those books aren't even Americans...

And you DO live in a GLOBAL economy. NOTHING you say changes this. It is fact.

Corporations are world-wide (whether American or not). You're drowning in your own idiocy and you don't even realize it.

I'm done. I can't argue with the stubborn or deluded...

[Schwoorf]

tell me

can you change or improve something after reading those books?

[LordBLB]

"can you change or improve something after reading those books?"

Yes, if enough people would read and understand those books (yes, very uncommon in America). And use them in correlation with one another. Along with many others written by Economists and Geo-Political advisors from all over the world.

Insight can be gained from these books, giving one a view and understanding from most angles, just how the world works together (whether willingly or not). Understanding is key.

[Schwoorf]

will never happen

computer games make books not interesting..etc)

the "WORLD NEW ORDER" will never allow too many smart ppl^^

[LordBLB]

"the WORLD NEW ORDER will never allow too many smart ppl"

Agreed. However this "New World Order" you speak of would require cooperation from multiple countries, not just the US.

The world WILL join together one day. Under either a banner of peace, or a banner of war. I just hope we grow intelligent enough to choose the path of peace and understanding. This must happen if we are ever to stop war, and leave this rock to explore the heavens. All minds must come together. We are ALL human. Peace.

[Schwoorf]

countries are overrated

big corporations will join the world together

dunno..its a good or not

but looks like it s the only way

[LordBLB]

"countries are overrated. big corporations will join the world together. dunno..its a good or not"

Agreed. Hopefully it's the path of peace. War would destroy us all...

See? We're not so different, you and I. ;)

G'Day my friend.

[AntiDefm]

BLB: There are tons of people brainwashed by the Western news media. Georgia conflict is just the most recent example. "Free Tibet" business is another. How many people out there knows that US government has pumped $50 million a year into this "Free Tibet" business?! How many people knows that US governmnet has been behind every elections in the ex-Soviet country?!

[LordBLB]

Most of what you said is true. And it's a shame. But to say something akin to the U.S., Russia, and China are headed for war, is simply overestimating things.

As much as the media 'spins' this crap from all angles, the majority of the people within those countries feel no real ill-will towards the other. The one thing they all have in common though, is how much they all dislike how their governments are handling things.

That's all. :)

[planettan]

@ littleBLB,

"But to say something akin to the U.S., Russia, and China are headed for war, is simply overestimating things."

In the US, 'government' is the big corporation, at the moment, big oil, big corporations, especially military industrial complex corporations had some join in "group marriage" with pro-Israel jews (so-called neocons) and extreme rightwing "fundamental Christians" (weird but true) and all these elements profit from wars and tensions in world.

[LordBLB]

@ little planettan,

Like the others, seem to misunderstand what Im saying. China will not risk war with the U.S. NOT because they couldn't win (they probably could), but because it would damage their young and fragile modern economy so badly it would take a rediculous amount of time to recover, so long in fact that it may hamper any real progress for the next 100 years. Its smart for China to stay neutral when speaking of war with the U.S.

Money makes the world go around. That's all Im saying.

[anticwar]

God bless South Ossetia and Abkhazia, thank you mother Russia!

[fmoa]

sco..kagistan,centtralistan,ch­ina n russia..is that it..only 2 nations in sco pose a threat to nato..china n russia..n quess what..only advntage they av is troops number..their navy n air force is smaller compare to yanks n nato..also nato troops are better train than russia n china conscript troops eh..nato also av better military technology than any sco nation..so if sco dont av an air force n navy to support its ground forces..nato will bomb the shit out o those many sco troops eh..woohoo

[sospire]

China has to consider its own territorial integrity (Tibet, Taiwan and Xingjiang).

[fmoa]

sco is a funny alliance..look at nato..they all bark at russia..but sco nations just sit n most doesnt accuse yanks o this n that..only russia n some other poor nation wit turkystan or what the fuck criticize yanks..china just say they support russia peacekeepers but didnt recognize s.ossetia n azkhazia..china knows if they angry west,trade between them will be halt..to all people here..china biggest trading partners are western nations..so china play it safe on this one eh..poor russia..

[ShinXXl]

SCO POWER ! USA SUC DICK !

[AntiDefm]

apolosha: China did call for a negotiated settlement, that is a "typical" altitude of china toward ANY international conflict. BUT China also did sign the statement Thursday supporting Russia's position in teh Caucasus.

You must be totally naive if you think China will be on US or NATO side especially US pumped at least $50 million a year into the so called "FREE TIBET" business.

[planettan]

I second with AntiDefm statements and assessments.

[LordBLB]

"You must be totally naive if you think China will be on US or NATO side"

China would not jeopardize it's trade relationship with the U.S. by any measure. It depends on the U.S. too much for export. China would at most voice opposition, and take a neutral stance, and not take ANY side. China's economy is more important to them than taking sides.

[monkeyman1140]

That could change. China holds a lot of USA debt, so if threatened they could paralyze the USA by calling in that debt. China is forging closer ties with india which is potentially a huge trade partner so there could be a time in the near future when China could cut ties with the USA in crisis. At that point we are totally screwed but its our fault for being so dependent on them.

[LordBLB]

"That could change. China holds a lot of USA debt"

That's true. But it's just about enough to break even with the amount that American consumers spend on Chinese products (which is staggering by the way). In essence, by cashing in that debt, they would cancel out any future income from the U.S. and many of its allies. It would still be economical suicide.

The U.S. and China are bedfellows in debt and commerce. They are together either silently or not. BOTH nations need each other right now.

[planettan]

@CoerdBLB@h, China can not finance US debts forever. Soon or later, China will realize buying US debts are essentially financing American war attrocities and genocides.

Currently, Japan hold the most US debts, plus Japan is financing US military expansions, billions in Afghanistan, billions on Guam Island for US military expansion ($7+ billions).

US can fight multiple wars without having to raise taxes, because Janan and China are lending them money.

[LordBLB]

"China can not finance US debts forever"

Agreed. However they (China & US) are bedfellows for the time being. No other country in the world spends more money on Chinese products than the US

The US isnt dumb enough to get involved in another war. They cant afford the two already being contested. So the US will just run to the end of its chain and bark (so to speak). Thats it.

And most Americans dont consider Russia an enemy. If that war were fought it would cause civil unrest in the US.

[AntiDefm]

BLB: No one tells or forces Americans to buy Chinese goods, NO ONE! WHY Americans are begging to buy Chinese goods?! It's because they want to enjoy their good life.

Be grateful to Chinese goods! Without Chinese goods, you even can't get on the internet! Woithout Chinese goods, you are back to the stone age!

[AntiDefm]

It's not just the SCO supports Russia's position in S Ossetia, Kazakh President Nurusultan Nazarbayev told Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that Moscow could count on Astana's support in the present crisis.

That means, Russia has the de facto control over two major Black Sea ports.

Obviously, US has suffered the major setback by SCO's support to Russia.

[seseljsrs]

The SCO statements clearly contradict propaganda (accepted as fact by certain RT reporters ahem)

that "the world" is against Russian actions in defense of South Ossetia.

As for the neutral wording of most leaders, it clearly frustrates the hopes of the American military-industrial complex to sell US voters on the idea of an SCO alliance about to invade Hicksville.

No matter, "Red Dawn", otherwise known as the US election campaign, will be coming to American theaters anyhow.

[GizmoMofo7]

Go nato lol.. even tho its ganna be harder to win compared to ww2

russia,china, india?!, other usa foes.. oh man

come on ger, uk, france, italty, spain lets get em

[LordBLB]

"come on ger, uk, france, italty, spain lets get em"

you forgot Australia, Poland, Japan, etc...

:P

[1200chan]

SCO vs NATO

FIGHT!!!!!!

[vasilisksand]

SCO wins

NATO fails

[fmoa]

hahaha..china say both side must solve the georgian conflict peacefully wit diplomacy..china also never openly say they recognize those 2 georgian territory independence..if u watch the video carefully the lady said most leaders avoided comments while only 1 tajik idiot show his support..china is playing smart..china knows their largest trading partners are western nations..so if they fully support russia..western nations will cut trade between them..n that will slow china fast economy enit..

[SAMTOMAS]

Fuck Bush.lol

[vasilisksand]

..........idiot? China and Russia have like 5 thousands years of cooperation , china lays down south of russia but they never atacked each other lol and never blamed for something. China already supports russia in this conflict they just didnt recognize SO and Abhaz. , cus there no need for that -.- rofl. Taling about usa with no history at all -.-

[fmoa]

china support russia peacekeepers in s.ossetia n azkhazia mate..but they didnt recognize s.ossetia n azkhazia independence..i thought they were friendly friend eh..china should be 1st nation to announce recognition o s.ossetia n azkhazia..but what happen..russia got blackballed by china enit..look here..china biggest trading partners are western nations..so they are smart by doing the neutral thing eh..so if they make nato mad,no trade wit china,n china economy will be slow enit..

[vasilisksand]

OMFG DUDE READ MY COMMENTS STUPID HAMBURGER.

They dont need to fucking recognise those countries after russia did FFS , ITS POINTLESS. YOU SAY WHY? WELL READ MY PREVIOS COMMENT.Idiot. Nato cut off trade with china? OMFG -.- IF YOU WILL CUT , WELL GOOD LUCK TO ECONOMIC CRISIS. God why i must live with stupid hamrguer eaters in the world -.-!

[antiwestpropaganda]

wildbestia:

western media always lie:

as example here:

watch?v=W93DzMPOeKk

watch?v=W93DzMPOeKk

watch?v=W93DzMPOeKk

[RealQi]

@germany...

wanna lose Berlin again? :)

[LOJANOS]

lol

[wildbestia]

Chinese made vague statements and now Russia is saying SCO backs Russia, US is saying SCO condemns Russia. LMAO :) Whatta circus.

[LDMOD1990]

Nice word. Really a circus)

[syzws]

agreed.

when chinese participates, you know it's going to be a mess. :)

[TokyoPlumber]

The official comment from China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Spokesman Qin Gang / 2008.08.27) is as follows: "China has expressed concern over the latest developments of the situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. We understand the complicated history and reality of the South Ossetia and Abkhazia issue. In the meantime, in light of our consistent principle and position on issues alike, we hope to see relevant parties resolve the issue properly through dialogue and consultation."

[1BuckeyeNation]

China denounced the use of force and said territorial integrity must be respected.

[TomaSkTemplar]

Tibet perhaps?

[1BuckeyeNation]

China denounced the use of force and said territorial integrity must be respected.

[1BuckeyeNation]

SCO does not back Russian declaration of independence. This is more BS.