With the HHS ,Susan B Koman, Vagina personage bill ...etc .. The has now got Woman's libbers. fuming like it were the suffragette movement all over again . If the church continues to fight to make people either have to choose between the 12th century moral teachings of Catholicism or the Obama administrations decision, I hope the church looses.
Bankruptcy court hearings for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee unexpectedly uncovered more than 8,000 previously unreported instances of child sex abuse over the past 60 years. According to an attorney representing 570 of the victims, the charges implicate about 100 church workers, including 75 Catholic priests. Now think about this every time you hear Newt Gingrich, or Rick Santorum or any of the rest of the self-righteous Republican scumbags saying that Obama is waging war on the Catholic Church.
No one's pro-abortion. Shut the fuck up. It's pretty disgusting you think a fully grown female is worth less than a clump of cells smaller than a fly's brain.
Government didn't gave people the right to abortion.
Everyone had it (universal rights) and governments all over the world felt the need to regulate. In countries in which policies are heavily influenced by relions usually abortion is illegal and female deaths due to pregancy are many times higher.
There is no evidence for a god, because evidence comes from questioning and testing; and every religion comes with a specieal self defense mechanism that tells its followers not to test their supreme being.
Again - don't you know how to read FICKLEDBILLY? I said I wasn't excusing the failings of a human being. The same failing you, as a man, have, too. Again, LIKE IT OR NOT. LOL.
psst. What are you talking about? Your heart pumping? Yeah, our standards are high, so high it's almost imposible for us to even live up to them; hence, the failings of a human being - yes, FICKLEDBILLY, a human being like you - a priest. LIKE IT, OR NOT. LOL
You see, you are an ignorant. First of, Catholics are not liberals or conservatives (right-wingers) - those two terms are politically created. You tried to use the declaration of independence for your example. Don't you know how to read? You've made it obvious that you don't even know how to read Roman numerals FICKLEDBILLY.
What's the point in boasting? I'll bet you didn't know the Catholic church almost went bankrupt here and there, had to sell properties to settle some of these claims out of court. Let me ask you a question pickledbill, are you a man. Don't you find yourself staring at pornographic channels and internet channels at night? If you are man and say no, YOU ARE A LIAR. I'm not excusing the failing of these men, but maybe you should look at you own falling before point and accusing somebody else.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..
How can abortion not be a scientific one? Look at it this way, the baby has the same DNA code and chromosomes as a human. Also if there is any cellular activity, by deffinition of life, it is alive. This is not an arguable case, by any means of justification that it is not murder.
'Biologoy has NO consensus in the realm of abortin. Its a legal issue not a scientific one '
It's a philosophical issue. Pro-lifers believe that all men were created equal and as such are granted self-evident and inalienable rights such as the right to life. This is, of course, in stark contrast to nihilists and moral relativists who believe that only some human beings have rights and some don't accordingly.
Biology itself has determined that an embryo is in fact a human being.
The Second Vatican Council, presided over by Paul VI, has most severely condemned abortion: "Life must be safeguarded with extreme care from conception; abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes." The same Paul VI, speaking on this subject on many occasions, has not been afraid to declare that this teaching of the Church "has not changed and is unchangeable."
The first Council of Mainz in 847 reconsidered the penalties against abortion which had been established by preceding Councils. It decided that the most rigorous penance would be imposed "on women who procure the elimination of the fruit conceived in their womb."
The Decree of Gratian reported the following words of Pope Stephen V: "That person is a murderer who causes to perish by abortion what has been conceived."
Tertullian did not always perhaps use the same language; he nevertheless clearly affirms the essential principle: "To prevent birth is anticipated murder; it makes little difference whether one destroys a life already born or does away with it in its nascent stage. The one who will be a man is already one."
Athenagoras emphasizes that Christians consider as murderers those women who take medicines to procure an abortion; he condemns the killers of children, including those still living in their mother's womb, "where they are already the object of the care of divine Providence."
The tradition of the Church has always held that human life must be protected and favored from the beginning, just as at the various stages of its development. Opposing the morals of the Greco-Roman world, the Church of the first centuries insisted on the difference that exists on this point between those morals and Christian morals. In the Didache it is clearly said: "You shall not kill by abortion the fruit of the womb and you shall not murder the infant already born."
The commandment of God is formal: "You shall not kill" (Ex. 20.13). Life is at the same time a gift and a responsibility. It is received as a "talent" (cf. Mt. 25.14-30); it must be put to proper use. In order that life may bring forth fruit, many tasks are offered to man in this world and he must not shirk them. More important still, the Christian knows that eternal life depends on what, with the grace of God, he does with his life on earth.
Thus we understand that human life, even on this earth, is precious. Infused by the Creator, life is again taken back by Him (cf Gen. 2.7; Wis. 15.11). It remains under His protection: man's blood cries out to Him (cf Gen. 4.10) and He will demand an account of it, "for in the image of God man was made" (Gen. 9.5-6).
On the human level, "it was the devil's envy that brought death into the world" (Wis. 2.24). Introduced by sin, death remains bound up with it: death is the sign and fruit of sin. But there is no final triumph for death. Confirming faith in the Resurrection, the Lord proclaims in the Gospel: "God is God, not of the dead, but of the living" (Mt. 22.32). And death like sin will be definitively defeated by resurrection in Christ (cf. 1 Cor. 15.20-27).
"Death was not God's doing, he takes no pleasure in the extinction of the living" (Wis. 1.13). Certainly God has created beings who have only one lifetime and physical death cannot be absent from the world of those with a bodily existence. But what is immediately willed is life, and in the visible universe everything has been made for man, who is the image of God and the world's crowning glory (cf. Gen. 1.26-28).
Too involved? Better too involved than not involved enough if you get my drift in the $100X millions paid out in the US, Canada and Ireland as the heirarchy of the Catholic Church looked the other way (obstructed Justice?) in the systematic rape of children by pervert priests. Know what I mean "Father"?
its what makes us who we are, chromosome pair 23 is XX for female and XY for male. This is determined the moment the sperm meets the egg. so this "cell" is unique and doesnt have the same DNA as the mother, therefore it is not "hers".
But making it illegal gets just as involved in fact more so. Saying something is illegal is way more intrusive than not getting involved. This is a decision you can never so it's doesn't involve you.
PonyBoy316 (and Dog Show) should KNOW a fetus @7 weeks gestation is SUCKING it's THUMB, so it must FEEL the urge and sensation of gratification orally and emotionally from such mental and physical and emotional activity. I don't mean to make you look stupid... you do that well enough on your own. It's alright, many are bit by the vampire in the Womb War. You just need to educate yourself on the very basics of biology and abortion 101. And please stop spreading lies, deceit, atrocity auras !!
blow comment is directed to PonyBoy316, the MORON with a BLACK Heart who believes if you don't FEEL or KNOW that you are being violated, you have no right to claim it as a wrong against you.
YOU BET!!!! Fr. F, please have your words written in detail for us in the info section! I want to be able to memorize each and every word you said, and it would help if I had them in writing.
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You show me one Jewish man who was circumcised soon after birth who vividly and accurately remembers the experience, and then you might convince me there is human suffering going on. Otherwise you are talking about potential and the thing about the potential and the future, it hasn't happened yet. You can't murder those who never existed in society. That's why we have birth certificates. Start with introducing conseption cirtificates, and you will have legal grounding.
ponyboy.. What is your point?..Abortion is KILLING..even most abortionists admit that fact..Unborn children are ALIVE,they EXIST in their mother`s womb..They DESERVE protection! Btw Birth certificates don`t ever prevent murder!
Why is it a crime to rape a chick while doped up on a date rape drug? She doesn't FEEL it, she doesn't KNOW it is happening.... what's the problem? If you don't FEEL or KNOW the crime against you, you should be able to claim it is wrong, huh?
ponyboy316: Most circumcised Jewish men r vividly aware they're at a loss of sensation & potential. That's what circumcision IS. "Duh! Denial!" Consciously unable to recall the "experience" doesn't diminish or invalidate the resulted outcome! A fetus certainly exists, like any living thing exists. Your shallow demand for a paper "certificate of existence " is repugnant. Morning sickness, an ultrasound, 4D, full color video, & medical pregnancy test is "certificate validation" one-up!
Laws state what you CAN't do. Making abortion illegal would be overstepping their bounds. Regulating it ensures safety durring the procedure. Telling Doctors they can't do something they are freely able to do is infringing on freedom, hence the governenment in this case would be asserting their authority in a private matter between a doctor and patient. If you had no laws on abortion, doctors would still perform them.
hey father, that's only your opinion, and who gives a shit about your opinion. go back to something you know a lot about, molesting little boys and girls.
are you telling me prolife, you support those priests who molested children? and don't say some didn't. ALL knew about it, they just kept quiet lest they were punished by their superiors. they ALL were complicite!
a laugh at your damned name, you're so pro pre born, but those who are indeed alive, you discount in favor of those bastard priests.
in addition, you fucking jerkoff. i make sure no one forgets what these "prolife" bastards did to our children!
seems people like you asshole, want everyone to forget! well, fuck you bastard, we'll never let anyone forget you fuckoffs are more for the preborn than you are for the living. you goddamned fucking bastard!
want more asshole? just respond with more ridiculous crap!
wntoply..I`m sure that`s a great response but it`s way over my head..what does it actually mean in plain English? Btw you never answered my original question..or at least I don`t think you did?!
wntoply.. This is quite a revelation..am I understanding you correctly? In your opinion then because I wish to promote the protection and defence of all human life,from conception to natural death,that means that I must; "kiss the ass of lying priests" and I`m a "goddamned fucking bastard" and I`m "in denial about what the priests have done"? You`re very welcome to your opinion wntpoply but why so angry..have you been molested?
wntoply Did you even read my post? I said "From conception to natural death"..so that includes EVERYONE..even you! But before you go at least tell us what happened to make you so mad?
why read anything you idiots say. it's all bullshit.
as i said, every fucking priest is complicit. the gossip that exists between priests is legend. all knew what was going on, but not one of those cowards, including this lying bastard pavone, came forward. why? cause they knew they would be punished by their bishop.
go give your bullshit to ignorant people, most likely in the 3rd world, cause that's about all who believe your bullcrap, & only when you scare hell out of em, asshole!
in addition profiler, if more people challenged you, and used the same bullying tactics you used, you "christian" cowards would be the first to run for the hills.
i have absolutely no respect for you people. you are two faced, double standard liars.
you obviously read my first post & took issue with it prolife.
you'd prefer we keep quiet about the sins of priests, bishops and cardinals, so you can focus on the unborn. you're attitude is to hell with the living...they can only cause you problems, right prolife?
tough shit. as long as this complicite priest opens his big mouth, i will continue to dog him and expose him for what he really is.
you don't like it, have me deleted and silenced, for that's the way the church operates.
wntoply I was sorry to hear about your friend.. No one should ever protect people who do that kind of thing to children,and guilty priests should,like everyone else,always be prosecuted and seriously punished.. But it is unfair that you tar Father Pavone with the same brush.. It would be just as unfair if you were accused of being complicite with civillian child molesters.
ah, bullshit. you're not sorry to hear about anyone who has been molested by a priest. it only gets in your way. stop taking a holier than thou position, it degrades you asshole.
when i say assholes like this guy pavone are nothing but cowards hiding behind their skirts, that's all they are!
you and they have no credibility. you're liars and bullshit artists! nothing more!
it's not unfair that i "tar" him. he is getting what he so richly deserves...and that's the real TRUTH!
wntoply6 Not bullshit..What I said was 100% true..In fact I think,if anything,it`s rather worse if a child is molested by a priest or a school teacher as those people are also abusing a position of trust,and should therefore be more severely punished.. But I still think you are wrong to target Father Frank..he can not be held personally responsible for the crimes of others in his profession.
if you feel that way prolife, then spend the rest of your goddamned life working to stop these perverted priests & their complicite brothers from ever coming in contact with children again!
but you won't will you, you fucking hypocrite.
you & your prolife movement is bullshit. take care of the living first you asshole. take care of the living. that means be very leary of guys like pavone. i wouldn't trust that bastard as far as i can throw him (probably something that pervert would like)!
btw, it's not wrong to target pavone, he is complicite and deserves jail time. years and years of jail time for the crimes he commited against children.
go fuck yourself if you think these perverts like pavone are ever gonna live what they did down. we are gonna haunt them every step of the way. they need to be exposed for what they really are, cowards at the expense of innocent children.
they have no right to talk of morality, nor do you if you support the church in this issue.
wntoply6 There are perverts at ALL levels in the community,not just amongst priests! I`m not a hypocrite as I would always seek to prosecute ANYONE who appeared to be harming children. I think you`ll find too that most prolife people do actively take care of the living. But these messages are concerning abortion only. Personally I`ve spent far more time amongst the terminally ill,than actively seeking to defend the unborn. As I said I think ALL life is precious,from conception to natural death.
man, you're a master at denial prolife, arent you! the fact priests perpertrated these crimes far outweights any other people or levels. it makes all of them & their superiors mute when it comes to any kind of authority on life.
in reality they & you disregarded the living & you refuse to be held accountable by damning those that are pro choice. you're the most fucked up group of people on the face of the earth.
there is only one thing to say to all you assholes...go fuck yourselves!
wntoply6.. I hear what you`re saying but it is incorrect.. Up to the age of 14 I had a great deal of involvement with priests and nuns and never heard of any abuse allegations.. But I`ve no doubt that there are priests who have abused children and I would very much hope that they have ALL been prosecuted and ousted from the priesthood..That`s the truth..whether you believe it or not is your choice.
sorry, it's only incorrect in your sick mind. sorry, as usual you're have no idea of what you speak. i too had many dealings for years with priests & nuns. the gossip was rampant. father joe at st marys heard the rumors about father bill at sacred heart. i'm telling the truth & you, you fucking prolifer do nothing but lie to protect the fucking assholes who's asses you kiss. you're the demon here, you kiss the ass of satan. you & i both know it. just stop you goddammed lies, please!
now answer my question you hypocritical prolifer, did you or did you not protest often and loudly when you heard your friendly priests were fucking little boys and girls? did you keep your mouth shut or did you make the same kind of fuss you're making about the unborn.
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ANSWER THE GODDAMNED QUESTION YOU LYING BASTARD!
wntoply6.. Look,if I ever became aware of ANY child abuse I would do everything in my power to stop it and have the offender properly dealt with. It really doesn`t matter if you believe me. I don`t know what`s happened to you,but I sincerely hope you can oneday come to terms with it and finally begin to heal and move on. But I guess you have to first make a firm decision and commitment that you really WANT to get over it. STARTING NOW! I wish you the very best of luck and MUCH future happiness.
you fucking bastard. you lying fucking bastard. you WERE aware of priest fucking little boys and girls. it was all over the world. did you fucking protest? fuck no, just as i suspected you kept your goddamned mouth shut. protect the unborn, not the living. you did just as i said, you fucking hypocrite. you goddamned fucking hypocrite.
you and your goddamned fake organization can go fuck your lying, hypocritical selves. you're dirt, nothing but slimy lying dirt. go to hell all of you!
With the vile and foul language you use, you show yourself to have absolutely no class, dignity, maturity, intelligence or self respect. Not to mention discrediting yourself!
the only way to come to terms, you asshole, is to make you pay, just as you want good pro choice people to pay.
the same consequence you want for them is what is due you hypocrites. you will surely pay in hell for your inaction and support for those priests who fucked children.
it's you who needs to rethink your actions, you bastard. you sick lying bastard!
by the way you fucking asshole prolife, what don't you understand about the word complicite? do you even know what that means. do you understand, at least in the united states, one can be put in jail for being complicite. it means one knew about a crime, but kept quiet. now isn't that wonderful every fucking priest knew what was going on, but decided to save his own freaking ass at the expense of children, and kept quiet, including this fuck up pavone.
i have a dear friend who was molested when he was a preteen. he tried to tell his family about it, but they, like you assholes, got pissed at him and further punished him for lying about their "wonderful" priest. he was then forced to endure more priestly cum in his ass and on his face for years.
it's assholes like you who spend their time protecting the unborn and forget about the living. again you prolifers don't know what the hell that really means...asshole.
we you out there protesting the church when they hid their disgusting secrets from the public? were you demanding they be brought to justice, did you demand
did you demand any actions taken about your cardinal or bishop, that prolife (what a laugh that is) bastard who hid the secrets? you probably sided with the church & tried to protect those priests! you disgust me!
better you should spend your time protecting LIVING children against priests first you asshole. you have more of a fucking obligation to protect the born than the unborn you stupid idiot! but that doesn't get you the glorification you so despirately need, does it...asshole!
It is intellectually arrogant for any one person to claim he KNOWS when life begins. No you don't! Not even scientists agree on this issue. And then to use that claim to support your position on abortion, trying to make it illegal again, is just wrong.
do you realize what would happen if we re-illegalized abortion in this day and age? Imagine all the back alley abortions of yesteryear times 10.
Nice twisting of logic there, FATHER. Are you, by chance, the same moron who said that anyone who voted for Kerry, a pro-choice Democrat, is "not a Christian" or "not a Catholic?? Actually, the gov't is too involved when it bans abortions and tells women they can't do what they want with their own bodies. The gov't could've just stayed out by not taking any position, banning or promoting it.
A womans right to her body IS a right. A womans right to make private medical decisions with her doctor regarding her mental and physical health (as well as that of potential offspring) IS a right. And, I would argue, it is a womans right to use HER best judgment regarding when she will reproduce, as she has throughout history.
The government didn't get involved when they legalized it. They got involved when they first began criminalizing it in the late 19th century.
Resnullia..Most people are,without doubt,in favour of a womans rights over her own body..But the unborn child is not her body or her property..She,like the father,is a parent and guardian to the child..The perverse notion (of some) that grants her a "right" to kill the child prior to birth has no place in a civilized world,and it is ultimately up to elected Governments to provide the lawful protection that the unborn need and deserve.
prolife-"But the unborn child is not her body or her property"
Many people disagree with you. Regardless, it is INSIDE of her body/property, and parents/guardians have a right to decide what is best for their offspring.
Elected governments won't touch this because the majority of the public is in agreement that they shouldn't. And those that are not tend to base their views on a religious belief that has no place in government.
Resnull Re "..not her body or her property" "Many people disagree with you." Well with this crazy logic it could be interpreted to mean that my born children within my own house are my property and I should therefore be allowed to do with them as I choose,including killing them if they are inconvenient, i.e. it just doesn`t make sense! I agree that Church and State should be seperate,but you SURELY don`t have to be at all religious to recognise the preciousness of a unique living unborn child?
Once somebody is born they are a self-contained individual organism that doesn't impose on anyone else's rights. An infant, person or not, can be given to anybody.
I agree, you don't have to be religious to value human life, and to value the amazing potential of a fetus. I recognize both. But I DON'T value a fetus as an equal to the woman, or persons in general.
Resnullia..Re "But I DON'T value a fetus as an equal to the woman, or persons in general." I can see no logical reason why a fetus is not on a level with all other human life from conception to natural death..I`d have thought it reasonable and common sense to only ever concede a greater priority to the mother in the rare situations that her life is genuinely threatened such as with an ectopic pregnancy,whereby the fetus is sadly but unavoidably lost during the treatment to save her.
Resnullia..Just as a analagous side issue..Can you understand why I feel it`s important to (for example) preserve African Rhino and Asian tigers and also to protect bears from being kept in cages with tubes directly to their gall bladders,and sharks from having their fins chopped off and dropped back into the sea whilst still alive..yet I`ve simultaneously got NO interest to undermine the alleged rights of Chinese pharmacists or fishmongers?
prolife, I think you've lost me on the relevance...
But I see the issues as totally intertwined. You might not have an interest in the rights of Chinese pharmacists, but protecting the sharks from having their fins cut off IS directly involving their rights.
Resnullia..Re " I think you've lost me on the relevance..." Being prolife and seeking to protect and defend unborn life we are so often unfairly accused of not respecting womens rights..Whilst I appreciate that a prolife stance will at times clash with the percieved rights of women (which imo don`t extend to the option to kill babies),I just wanted to make it clear that to undermine women,in anyway, was a wholly unintentional,but difficult to avoid,side effect..But maybe you already knew that?
Okay, prolife, I see the point you are trying to make. But as I said with the analogy the issues are inevitably intertwined. Fetal rights and womans rights are, essentially, the same issue. Intended or not.
Check out kcwlf29's video. (Re: Abortion doctors kill babies for fun!) I had a question for him about implied consent that I wouldn't mind you answering too.
Resnullia I appreciate that fetal rights and womans rights are interwined but can`t reasonably see them as being the same issue,hence the recent analogy..Btw I wasn`t aware that you personally considered that the fetus had any rights at all? ..Re "Check out kcwlf29's video. (Re: Abortion doctors kill babies for fun!) I had a question for him about implied consent that I wouldn't mind you answering too." I thought I already had responded there,but in case not I`ll check it out again a bit later.
Resnullia: Did u milk your own cow today? Did u spin your own cloth & stitch ur clothing? Did u hunt, fish, harvest ur own food? Did u provide for ur own heat & water?
U aren't very "self contained" individual organism that isn't imposing on anyone else's life & rights, r u? In fact U r a polluting, wasting, consumer gluttonous hedge hog that even goes so far as to ravage Wombs of their precious magic.... 4 your selfish iron skinned heart of dark. Yeah, there, I said it! & I meant it!
The BABY IS NOT a woman's body, it is the babies body. Duh! Abortionists aren't "doctors"... the medical profession looks down on them as "Total Losers, Bottom-Feeders, Washed Up Filfth" Etc, ...ask any surgeon. LOL
Abortionist don't sit & chit-chat with a woman before an abortion. R U Joking? There's no consultation & decisions discussed regarding her "health"? Regarding the "health" of the NOT POTENTIAL offspring.... that human is ALIVE!!!
With the HHS ,Susan B Koman, Vagina personage bill ...etc .. The has now got Woman's libbers. fuming like it were the suffragette movement all over again . If the church continues to fight to make people either have to choose between the 12th century moral teachings of Catholicism or the Obama administrations decision, I hope the church looses.
LiberalElitistMedia 3 weeks ago in playlist Responses to Pro-Abortion Politicians
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Bankruptcy court hearings for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee unexpectedly uncovered more than 8,000 previously unreported instances of child sex abuse over the past 60 years. According to an attorney representing 570 of the victims, the charges implicate about 100 church workers, including 75 Catholic priests. Now think about this every time you hear Newt Gingrich, or Rick Santorum or any of the rest of the self-righteous Republican scumbags saying that Obama is waging war on the Catholic Church.
MrBushlied 4 weeks ago in playlist Responses to Pro-Abortion Politicians
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No one's pro-abortion. Shut the fuck up. It's pretty disgusting you think a fully grown female is worth less than a clump of cells smaller than a fly's brain.
bobmuffins 11 months ago
Government didn't gave people the right to abortion.
Everyone had it (universal rights) and governments all over the world felt the need to regulate. In countries in which policies are heavily influenced by relions usually abortion is illegal and female deaths due to pregancy are many times higher.
Regulation is good. Making it illegal is bad.
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standingontruth1 4 months ago in playlist Responses to Pro-Abortion Politicians
And what/who do you think "our creator" is?
There is no evidence for a god, because evidence comes from questioning and testing; and every religion comes with a specieal self defense mechanism that tells its followers not to test their supreme being.
intercipio 2 years ago
Wow. Picklebill & liammarcus...with the slander coming out your mouths you may deserve each other.
ReyLoo 2 years ago
Again - don't you know how to read FICKLEDBILLY? I said I wasn't excusing the failings of a human being. The same failing you, as a man, have, too. Again, LIKE IT OR NOT. LOL.
liammarcus 2 years ago
psst. What are you talking about? Your heart pumping? Yeah, our standards are high, so high it's almost imposible for us to even live up to them; hence, the failings of a human being - yes, FICKLEDBILLY, a human being like you - a priest. LIKE IT, OR NOT. LOL
liammarcus 2 years ago
FLICKLEDBILLY don't you know how to read? I was make a point that you are wrong about the XIV Amendment, that's 14, for you, FLICKLEDBILLY.
liammarcus 2 years ago
You see, you are an ignorant. First of, Catholics are not liberals or conservatives (right-wingers) - those two terms are politically created. You tried to use the declaration of independence for your example. Don't you know how to read? You've made it obvious that you don't even know how to read Roman numerals FICKLEDBILLY.
liammarcus 2 years ago
What's the point in boasting? I'll bet you didn't know the Catholic church almost went bankrupt here and there, had to sell properties to settle some of these claims out of court. Let me ask you a question pickledbill, are you a man. Don't you find yourself staring at pornographic channels and internet channels at night? If you are man and say no, YOU ARE A LIAR. I'm not excusing the failing of these men, but maybe you should look at you own falling before point and accusing somebody else.
liammarcus 2 years ago
Here - Amendment 13 and 14.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
So, you see, you have it all wrong pickledbill. You are thinking like a Marxist my friend.
liammarcus 2 years ago
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..
liammarcus 2 years ago
How can abortion not be a scientific one? Look at it this way, the baby has the same DNA code and chromosomes as a human. Also if there is any cellular activity, by deffinition of life, it is alive. This is not an arguable case, by any means of justification that it is not murder.
FedorovAvtomat 2 years ago
'Biologoy has NO consensus in the realm of abortin. Its a legal issue not a scientific one '
It's a philosophical issue. Pro-lifers believe that all men were created equal and as such are granted self-evident and inalienable rights such as the right to life. This is, of course, in stark contrast to nihilists and moral relativists who believe that only some human beings have rights and some don't accordingly.
Biology itself has determined that an embryo is in fact a human being.
SinistaPlot 2 years ago
i LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! THANK YOU! I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAY!!! THANK YOU! ABORTION IS MURDER, LEGAL MURDERING.
ROXANNAARIES 2 years ago
The Second Vatican Council, presided over by Paul VI, has most severely condemned abortion: "Life must be safeguarded with extreme care from conception; abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes." The same Paul VI, speaking on this subject on many occasions, has not been afraid to declare that this teaching of the Church "has not changed and is unchangeable."
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
The first Council of Mainz in 847 reconsidered the penalties against abortion which had been established by preceding Councils. It decided that the most rigorous penance would be imposed "on women who procure the elimination of the fruit conceived in their womb."
The Decree of Gratian reported the following words of Pope Stephen V: "That person is a murderer who causes to perish by abortion what has been conceived."
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
Tertullian did not always perhaps use the same language; he nevertheless clearly affirms the essential principle: "To prevent birth is anticipated murder; it makes little difference whether one destroys a life already born or does away with it in its nascent stage. The one who will be a man is already one."
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
Athenagoras emphasizes that Christians consider as murderers those women who take medicines to procure an abortion; he condemns the killers of children, including those still living in their mother's womb, "where they are already the object of the care of divine Providence."
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
The tradition of the Church has always held that human life must be protected and favored from the beginning, just as at the various stages of its development. Opposing the morals of the Greco-Roman world, the Church of the first centuries insisted on the difference that exists on this point between those morals and Christian morals. In the Didache it is clearly said: "You shall not kill by abortion the fruit of the womb and you shall not murder the infant already born."
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
The commandment of God is formal: "You shall not kill" (Ex. 20.13). Life is at the same time a gift and a responsibility. It is received as a "talent" (cf. Mt. 25.14-30); it must be put to proper use. In order that life may bring forth fruit, many tasks are offered to man in this world and he must not shirk them. More important still, the Christian knows that eternal life depends on what, with the grace of God, he does with his life on earth.
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
Thus we understand that human life, even on this earth, is precious. Infused by the Creator, life is again taken back by Him (cf Gen. 2.7; Wis. 15.11). It remains under His protection: man's blood cries out to Him (cf Gen. 4.10) and He will demand an account of it, "for in the image of God man was made" (Gen. 9.5-6).
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
On the human level, "it was the devil's envy that brought death into the world" (Wis. 2.24). Introduced by sin, death remains bound up with it: death is the sign and fruit of sin. But there is no final triumph for death. Confirming faith in the Resurrection, the Lord proclaims in the Gospel: "God is God, not of the dead, but of the living" (Mt. 22.32). And death like sin will be definitively defeated by resurrection in Christ (cf. 1 Cor. 15.20-27).
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
"Death was not God's doing, he takes no pleasure in the extinction of the living" (Wis. 1.13). Certainly God has created beings who have only one lifetime and physical death cannot be absent from the world of those with a bodily existence. But what is immediately willed is life, and in the visible universe everything has been made for man, who is the image of God and the world's crowning glory (cf. Gen. 1.26-28).
ignatiusofantioch2 2 years ago
Too involved? Better too involved than not involved enough if you get my drift in the $100X millions paid out in the US, Canada and Ireland as the heirarchy of the Catholic Church looked the other way (obstructed Justice?) in the systematic rape of children by pervert priests. Know what I mean "Father"?
tradercris 2 years ago
have you ever been pregnant b/c you were raped? and if you have the baby wouldent it ALSO destroy the mothers life?
toxicgirl494 3 years ago
to sueezee:
Why didnt the woman wear a female condom? I asked the health nurse about it and she said its more effective than the male condom.
y100269 3 years ago
and who owned the first human?
and half of the baby belongs to father as well? shouldn't they have a say?
y100269 3 years ago
to sueezee,
its what makes us who we are, chromosome pair 23 is XX for female and XY for male. This is determined the moment the sperm meets the egg. so this "cell" is unique and doesnt have the same DNA as the mother, therefore it is not "hers".
y100269 3 years ago
to sueezee, 46 chromosomes
y100269 3 years ago
But making it illegal gets just as involved in fact more so. Saying something is illegal is way more intrusive than not getting involved. This is a decision you can never so it's doesn't involve you.
Tylonous 3 years ago
Amen.
o7jimmy 3 years ago 5
PonyBoy316 (and Dog Show) should KNOW a fetus @7 weeks gestation is SUCKING it's THUMB, so it must FEEL the urge and sensation of gratification orally and emotionally from such mental and physical and emotional activity. I don't mean to make you look stupid... you do that well enough on your own. It's alright, many are bit by the vampire in the Womb War. You just need to educate yourself on the very basics of biology and abortion 101. And please stop spreading lies, deceit, atrocity auras !!
SantaCruzProLife 3 years ago
blow comment is directed to PonyBoy316, the MORON with a BLACK Heart who believes if you don't FEEL or KNOW that you are being violated, you have no right to claim it as a wrong against you.
Xcesschick 3 years ago 2
YOU BET!!!! Fr. F, please have your words written in detail for us in the info section! I want to be able to memorize each and every word you said, and it would help if I had them in writing.
We are on the side of the Angels!
Xcesschick 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You show me one Jewish man who was circumcised soon after birth who vividly and accurately remembers the experience, and then you might convince me there is human suffering going on. Otherwise you are talking about potential and the thing about the potential and the future, it hasn't happened yet. You can't murder those who never existed in society. That's why we have birth certificates. Start with introducing conseption cirtificates, and you will have legal grounding.
ponyboy316 3 years ago
ponyboy.. What is your point?..Abortion is KILLING..even most abortionists admit that fact..Unborn children are ALIVE,they EXIST in their mother`s womb..They DESERVE protection! Btw Birth certificates don`t ever prevent murder!
prolifeinternational 3 years ago 2
Why is it a crime to rape a chick while doped up on a date rape drug? She doesn't FEEL it, she doesn't KNOW it is happening.... what's the problem? If you don't FEEL or KNOW the crime against you, you should be able to claim it is wrong, huh?
YOUR a MORON with a black heart !
Xcesschick 3 years ago 2
ponyboy316: Most circumcised Jewish men r vividly aware they're at a loss of sensation & potential. That's what circumcision IS. "Duh! Denial!" Consciously unable to recall the "experience" doesn't diminish or invalidate the resulted outcome! A fetus certainly exists, like any living thing exists. Your shallow demand for a paper "certificate of existence " is repugnant. Morning sickness, an ultrasound, 4D, full color video, & medical pregnancy test is "certificate validation" one-up!
SantaCruzProLife 3 years ago
Laws state what you CAN't do. Making abortion illegal would be overstepping their bounds. Regulating it ensures safety durring the procedure. Telling Doctors they can't do something they are freely able to do is infringing on freedom, hence the governenment in this case would be asserting their authority in a private matter between a doctor and patient. If you had no laws on abortion, doctors would still perform them.
ponyboy316 3 years ago
A GREAT point!!!
mstatz 3 years ago
why doesn't the media broadcast all the good things gays and lesbians do. there wouldn't be enough time to do this burtwilson1
wntoply6 3 years ago
hey father, that's only your opinion, and who gives a shit about your opinion. go back to something you know a lot about, molesting little boys and girls.
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply..What does a real man like you do when they`re not shamelessly insulting Priests?
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
are you telling me prolife, you support those priests who molested children? and don't say some didn't. ALL knew about it, they just kept quiet lest they were punished by their superiors. they ALL were complicite!
a laugh at your damned name, you're so pro pre born, but those who are indeed alive, you discount in favor of those bastard priests.
you're the fucked up one jerkoff!
wntoply6 3 years ago
in addition, you fucking jerkoff. i make sure no one forgets what these "prolife" bastards did to our children!
seems people like you asshole, want everyone to forget! well, fuck you bastard, we'll never let anyone forget you fuckoffs are more for the preborn than you are for the living. you goddamned fucking bastard!
want more asshole? just respond with more ridiculous crap!
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply..I`m sure that`s a great response but it`s way over my head..what does it actually mean in plain English? Btw you never answered my original question..or at least I don`t think you did?!
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
who gives a fuck what went over your damned head, and what fucking questions you've asked.
you kiss the ass of lying priests. that to me puts you in their same disgusting box.
i'll bet you're in denial about what these goddamned priests have done, aren't you asshole!
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply.. This is quite a revelation..am I understanding you correctly? In your opinion then because I wish to promote the protection and defence of all human life,from conception to natural death,that means that I must; "kiss the ass of lying priests" and I`m a "goddamned fucking bastard" and I`m "in denial about what the priests have done"? You`re very welcome to your opinion wntpoply but why so angry..have you been molested?
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
please asshole, go shove your bullshit up someone else's asshole.
i'd disgusted with the like of you asshole liars.
FUCKING PROTECT THE LIVING FIRST ASSHOLE. SOMETHING YOU SO PROFOUNDLY FAILED TO DO!
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply Did you even read my post? I said "From conception to natural death"..so that includes EVERYONE..even you! But before you go at least tell us what happened to make you so mad?
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
why read anything you idiots say. it's all bullshit.
as i said, every fucking priest is complicit. the gossip that exists between priests is legend. all knew what was going on, but not one of those cowards, including this lying bastard pavone, came forward. why? cause they knew they would be punished by their bishop.
go give your bullshit to ignorant people, most likely in the 3rd world, cause that's about all who believe your bullcrap, & only when you scare hell out of em, asshole!
wntoply6 3 years ago
in addition profiler, if more people challenged you, and used the same bullying tactics you used, you "christian" cowards would be the first to run for the hills.
i have absolutely no respect for you people. you are two faced, double standard liars.
wntoply6 3 years ago
you obviously read my first post & took issue with it prolife.
you'd prefer we keep quiet about the sins of priests, bishops and cardinals, so you can focus on the unborn. you're attitude is to hell with the living...they can only cause you problems, right prolife?
tough shit. as long as this complicite priest opens his big mouth, i will continue to dog him and expose him for what he really is.
you don't like it, have me deleted and silenced, for that's the way the church operates.
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply I was sorry to hear about your friend.. No one should ever protect people who do that kind of thing to children,and guilty priests should,like everyone else,always be prosecuted and seriously punished.. But it is unfair that you tar Father Pavone with the same brush.. It would be just as unfair if you were accused of being complicite with civillian child molesters.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
ah, bullshit. you're not sorry to hear about anyone who has been molested by a priest. it only gets in your way. stop taking a holier than thou position, it degrades you asshole.
when i say assholes like this guy pavone are nothing but cowards hiding behind their skirts, that's all they are!
you and they have no credibility. you're liars and bullshit artists! nothing more!
it's not unfair that i "tar" him. he is getting what he so richly deserves...and that's the real TRUTH!
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply6 Not bullshit..What I said was 100% true..In fact I think,if anything,it`s rather worse if a child is molested by a priest or a school teacher as those people are also abusing a position of trust,and should therefore be more severely punished.. But I still think you are wrong to target Father Frank..he can not be held personally responsible for the crimes of others in his profession.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
if you feel that way prolife, then spend the rest of your goddamned life working to stop these perverted priests & their complicite brothers from ever coming in contact with children again!
but you won't will you, you fucking hypocrite.
you & your prolife movement is bullshit. take care of the living first you asshole. take care of the living. that means be very leary of guys like pavone. i wouldn't trust that bastard as far as i can throw him (probably something that pervert would like)!
wntoply6 3 years ago
btw, it's not wrong to target pavone, he is complicite and deserves jail time. years and years of jail time for the crimes he commited against children.
go fuck yourself if you think these perverts like pavone are ever gonna live what they did down. we are gonna haunt them every step of the way. they need to be exposed for what they really are, cowards at the expense of innocent children.
they have no right to talk of morality, nor do you if you support the church in this issue.
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply6 There are perverts at ALL levels in the community,not just amongst priests! I`m not a hypocrite as I would always seek to prosecute ANYONE who appeared to be harming children. I think you`ll find too that most prolife people do actively take care of the living. But these messages are concerning abortion only. Personally I`ve spent far more time amongst the terminally ill,than actively seeking to defend the unborn. As I said I think ALL life is precious,from conception to natural death.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
man, you're a master at denial prolife, arent you! the fact priests perpertrated these crimes far outweights any other people or levels. it makes all of them & their superiors mute when it comes to any kind of authority on life.
in reality they & you disregarded the living & you refuse to be held accountable by damning those that are pro choice. you're the most fucked up group of people on the face of the earth.
there is only one thing to say to all you assholes...go fuck yourselves!
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply6.. I hear what you`re saying but it is incorrect.. Up to the age of 14 I had a great deal of involvement with priests and nuns and never heard of any abuse allegations.. But I`ve no doubt that there are priests who have abused children and I would very much hope that they have ALL been prosecuted and ousted from the priesthood..That`s the truth..whether you believe it or not is your choice.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
sorry, it's only incorrect in your sick mind. sorry, as usual you're have no idea of what you speak. i too had many dealings for years with priests & nuns. the gossip was rampant. father joe at st marys heard the rumors about father bill at sacred heart. i'm telling the truth & you, you fucking prolifer do nothing but lie to protect the fucking assholes who's asses you kiss. you're the demon here, you kiss the ass of satan. you & i both know it. just stop you goddammed lies, please!
wntoply6 3 years ago
now answer my question you hypocritical prolifer, did you or did you not protest often and loudly when you heard your friendly priests were fucking little boys and girls? did you keep your mouth shut or did you make the same kind of fuss you're making about the unborn.
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ANSWER THE GODDAMNED QUESTION YOU LYING BASTARD!
wntoply6 3 years ago
wntoply6.. Look,if I ever became aware of ANY child abuse I would do everything in my power to stop it and have the offender properly dealt with. It really doesn`t matter if you believe me. I don`t know what`s happened to you,but I sincerely hope you can oneday come to terms with it and finally begin to heal and move on. But I guess you have to first make a firm decision and commitment that you really WANT to get over it. STARTING NOW! I wish you the very best of luck and MUCH future happiness.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
you fucking bastard. you lying fucking bastard. you WERE aware of priest fucking little boys and girls. it was all over the world. did you fucking protest? fuck no, just as i suspected you kept your goddamned mouth shut. protect the unborn, not the living. you did just as i said, you fucking hypocrite. you goddamned fucking hypocrite.
you and your goddamned fake organization can go fuck your lying, hypocritical selves. you're dirt, nothing but slimy lying dirt. go to hell all of you!
wntoply6 3 years ago
With the vile and foul language you use, you show yourself to have absolutely no class, dignity, maturity, intelligence or self respect. Not to mention discrediting yourself!
mstatz 3 years ago 2
the only way to come to terms, you asshole, is to make you pay, just as you want good pro choice people to pay.
the same consequence you want for them is what is due you hypocrites. you will surely pay in hell for your inaction and support for those priests who fucked children.
it's you who needs to rethink your actions, you bastard. you sick lying bastard!
wntoply6 3 years ago
by the way you fucking asshole prolife, what don't you understand about the word complicite? do you even know what that means. do you understand, at least in the united states, one can be put in jail for being complicite. it means one knew about a crime, but kept quiet. now isn't that wonderful every fucking priest knew what was going on, but decided to save his own freaking ass at the expense of children, and kept quiet, including this fuck up pavone.
wntoply6 3 years ago
i have a dear friend who was molested when he was a preteen. he tried to tell his family about it, but they, like you assholes, got pissed at him and further punished him for lying about their "wonderful" priest. he was then forced to endure more priestly cum in his ass and on his face for years.
it's assholes like you who spend their time protecting the unborn and forget about the living. again you prolifers don't know what the hell that really means...asshole.
wntoply6 3 years ago
we you out there protesting the church when they hid their disgusting secrets from the public? were you demanding they be brought to justice, did you demand
wntoply6 3 years ago
did you demand any actions taken about your cardinal or bishop, that prolife (what a laugh that is) bastard who hid the secrets? you probably sided with the church & tried to protect those priests! you disgust me!
better you should spend your time protecting LIVING children against priests first you asshole. you have more of a fucking obligation to protect the born than the unborn you stupid idiot! but that doesn't get you the glorification you so despirately need, does it...asshole!
wntoply6 3 years ago
great video, Keep up the great work you are doing
chickydum 3 years ago
It is intellectually arrogant for any one person to claim he KNOWS when life begins. No you don't! Not even scientists agree on this issue. And then to use that claim to support your position on abortion, trying to make it illegal again, is just wrong.
do you realize what would happen if we re-illegalized abortion in this day and age? Imagine all the back alley abortions of yesteryear times 10.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Nice twisting of logic there, FATHER. Are you, by chance, the same moron who said that anyone who voted for Kerry, a pro-choice Democrat, is "not a Christian" or "not a Catholic?? Actually, the gov't is too involved when it bans abortions and tells women they can't do what they want with their own bodies. The gov't could've just stayed out by not taking any position, banning or promoting it.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Whoo..Re "It`s not arrogant at all it`s a simple fact..just as to determine when life ends is a simple fact too.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
A womans right to her body IS a right. A womans right to make private medical decisions with her doctor regarding her mental and physical health (as well as that of potential offspring) IS a right. And, I would argue, it is a womans right to use HER best judgment regarding when she will reproduce, as she has throughout history.
The government didn't get involved when they legalized it. They got involved when they first began criminalizing it in the late 19th century.
Resnullia 3 years ago
Women do have a right to choose...
But... Let the truth be told.
Pro-Choice is BADD...
Babies
Aborted
During
Development
Let's choose and vote for "LIFE", Peace to all
MATRIXofTRUTH 3 years ago
Resnullia..Most people are,without doubt,in favour of a womans rights over her own body..But the unborn child is not her body or her property..She,like the father,is a parent and guardian to the child..The perverse notion (of some) that grants her a "right" to kill the child prior to birth has no place in a civilized world,and it is ultimately up to elected Governments to provide the lawful protection that the unborn need and deserve.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
prolife-"But the unborn child is not her body or her property"
Many people disagree with you. Regardless, it is INSIDE of her body/property, and parents/guardians have a right to decide what is best for their offspring.
Elected governments won't touch this because the majority of the public is in agreement that they shouldn't. And those that are not tend to base their views on a religious belief that has no place in government.
Resnullia 3 years ago
Resnull Re "..not her body or her property" "Many people disagree with you." Well with this crazy logic it could be interpreted to mean that my born children within my own house are my property and I should therefore be allowed to do with them as I choose,including killing them if they are inconvenient, i.e. it just doesn`t make sense! I agree that Church and State should be seperate,but you SURELY don`t have to be at all religious to recognise the preciousness of a unique living unborn child?
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
Once somebody is born they are a self-contained individual organism that doesn't impose on anyone else's rights. An infant, person or not, can be given to anybody.
I agree, you don't have to be religious to value human life, and to value the amazing potential of a fetus. I recognize both. But I DON'T value a fetus as an equal to the woman, or persons in general.
Resnullia 3 years ago
Resnullia..Re "But I DON'T value a fetus as an equal to the woman, or persons in general." I can see no logical reason why a fetus is not on a level with all other human life from conception to natural death..I`d have thought it reasonable and common sense to only ever concede a greater priority to the mother in the rare situations that her life is genuinely threatened such as with an ectopic pregnancy,whereby the fetus is sadly but unavoidably lost during the treatment to save her.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
Resnullia..Just as a analagous side issue..Can you understand why I feel it`s important to (for example) preserve African Rhino and Asian tigers and also to protect bears from being kept in cages with tubes directly to their gall bladders,and sharks from having their fins chopped off and dropped back into the sea whilst still alive..yet I`ve simultaneously got NO interest to undermine the alleged rights of Chinese pharmacists or fishmongers?
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
prolife, I think you've lost me on the relevance...
But I see the issues as totally intertwined. You might not have an interest in the rights of Chinese pharmacists, but protecting the sharks from having their fins cut off IS directly involving their rights.
Resnullia 3 years ago
Resnullia..Re " I think you've lost me on the relevance..." Being prolife and seeking to protect and defend unborn life we are so often unfairly accused of not respecting womens rights..Whilst I appreciate that a prolife stance will at times clash with the percieved rights of women (which imo don`t extend to the option to kill babies),I just wanted to make it clear that to undermine women,in anyway, was a wholly unintentional,but difficult to avoid,side effect..But maybe you already knew that?
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
Okay, prolife, I see the point you are trying to make. But as I said with the analogy the issues are inevitably intertwined. Fetal rights and womans rights are, essentially, the same issue. Intended or not.
Check out kcwlf29's video. (Re: Abortion doctors kill babies for fun!) I had a question for him about implied consent that I wouldn't mind you answering too.
Resnullia 3 years ago
Resnullia I appreciate that fetal rights and womans rights are interwined but can`t reasonably see them as being the same issue,hence the recent analogy..Btw I wasn`t aware that you personally considered that the fetus had any rights at all? ..Re "Check out kcwlf29's video. (Re: Abortion doctors kill babies for fun!) I had a question for him about implied consent that I wouldn't mind you answering too." I thought I already had responded there,but in case not I`ll check it out again a bit later.
prolifeinternational 3 years ago
Resnullia: Did u milk your own cow today? Did u spin your own cloth & stitch ur clothing? Did u hunt, fish, harvest ur own food? Did u provide for ur own heat & water?
U aren't very "self contained" individual organism that isn't imposing on anyone else's life & rights, r u? In fact U r a polluting, wasting, consumer gluttonous hedge hog that even goes so far as to ravage Wombs of their precious magic.... 4 your selfish iron skinned heart of dark. Yeah, there, I said it! & I meant it!
SantaCruzProLife 3 years ago
Resnullia, why didn't your mother abort you?
The BABY IS NOT a woman's body, it is the babies body. Duh! Abortionists aren't "doctors"... the medical profession looks down on them as "Total Losers, Bottom-Feeders, Washed Up Filfth" Etc, ...ask any surgeon. LOL
Abortionist don't sit & chit-chat with a woman before an abortion. R U Joking? There's no consultation & decisions discussed regarding her "health"? Regarding the "health" of the NOT POTENTIAL offspring.... that human is ALIVE!!!
SantaCruzProLife 3 years ago
Good points - that's how a true man of God speaks.
God bless you, Father.
SwordsmanOfFaith 3 years ago 2
Just BRILLIANT!
prolifeinternational 3 years ago 2
Amen and Amen. Thanks for the truth.
Jimmy
o7jimmy 3 years ago 2