Capitol A - 1958 was recut by Don Rand on his own CLARK Label
1= Blue Kentucky Blues ; 2= Shorty George Blues ; 3= Colorado Blues ; 4= Chicago Stomp ; 5= Hot Spring Water Blues ; 6= How Come You Do Me Like You Do ; 7= Priscilla's Blues ; 8= Yellow Dog blues ; 9= Kansas City Man Blues ;10= War Horse Mama Blues
Tracks 2, 6, 8 , 9 , and 10 are by Clarence Johnson and 4 , 5 , 7 by James Blythe 1 and 2 have not been heard but likely by either of these guys
This is very cool! My knowledge of players and rolls is very limited, but I would not be surprised if James Blythe played the roll. Fats Waller had done quite a few, in fact there is a CD out there (somewhere) that is a compilation of rolls done by Waller, beautifully recorded. I've heard parts of it. I love player pianos and Regina music boxes, but that's a hobby that's way out of my budget! Thanks for sharing!
Capitol #2051, "Birmingham Blues" was released in February 1927 with 'Hot Spring Water Blues' as the final tune on the roll (#10). This is probably that roll?
Mama Down in New Orleans; (2) Forty-seventh Street
Stomp; (3) Trouble in Mind; (4) Shake That Thing;
(5) State Street Skiffle; (6) Back Alley Rub; (7) Jackass
Blues; (8) Hard to Get Gertie; (9) Dixie Dreams Blues;
(10) Hot Spring Water Blues.
Please don't ask me for any more information in future as, having read some of your rude and abusive comments on other peoples videos, I don't feel the desire to help you further.
Thanks for your reply but , shame for your comments
Stupidity , ignorance and arrogance request strong reaction when coming from other American KIDDIES, who boost themselves as the masters of this world when it comes to piano rolls , and I am not including you in this bunch
Sorry for you , but I am an EUROPEAN and that's the way we deal with such situations . You do not like it ....that's NOT my problem
May be someday you ll understand .........................may be ?
Having now heard the Paramount record with Sodarisa Miller and Jimmy Blythe, I can tell you for sure that this is Blythe playing the roll, since the introduction and some of the licks are identical.
However, he does take it slower on the recording, but I must remember that the coin piano doesn't have as flexible a tempo control as a regular player piano, and also, that if Blythe played this tune as a solo, he himself might have played it faster.
An example of tempo difference is the Waller recording on the Estey organ at Camden studio. His solo recordings are taken at a faster clip than the same piece being played with, say, Alberta Hunter--and often in a different key to suit her.
This capitol roll 1958 is not listed in Mike Montgomery's Rollography BUT from the number shown it was recorded in 1927 hence 3 years after the commercial recording with Sodarisa Miller for Paramount !
Which rollography did you consult? The one that is online is Mike Montgomery's listing of Columbia/Capitol 88-note rolls, which were one tune each and meant for home player pianos. There are many gaps in the rollography due to the extreme scarcity of some of the rolls.
Mike Montgomery has also made a Columbia/Capitol A-roll list, which is of the large rolls for coin pianos like this one in the video, with 10 tunes per roll. However, this A-roll list has never been online, just on paper.
Who'll Drive My Blues Away = on Pm12231 shows composer credit to Aletha Dickerson . she was scout talent and a house pianist for Paramount . She knew Blythe very well !!! Thi has Mastrix 9037 in wax and digit 241 shown on the label only
Hi, I don't yet have a copy of Mike Montgomery's Capitol rollography of all their A-rolls, but I would be surprised if this wasn't at least listed in there. Apparently, Ed Sprankle helped Mr. Montgomery compile a list of nearly all rolls they ever released, in terms of tune titles. Some of the rolls themselves have not turned up in 80 years.
However, I think this probably is indeed Capitol A-1958, just recut by Don Rand, who uses "Clark Orchestra Roll" as his business handle now.
Hi, I don't yet have a copy of Mike Montgomery's Capitol rollography of all their A-rolls, but I would be surprised if this wasn't at least listed in there. Apparently, Ed Sprankle helped Mr. Montgomery compile a list of nearly all rolls they ever released, in terms of tune titles. Some of the rolls themselves have not turned up in 80 years.
However, I think this probably is indeed Capitol A-1958, just recut by Don Rand, who uses "Clark Orchestra Roll" as his business handle now.
This might be the same tune recorded as "Hot Springs Water Blues" by the lady singer Sodarisa Miller on Paramount record 12231, in August 1924, with piano accompaniment by James Blythe. (I have not yet heard this record, but would love to!); I am not sure who wrote the tune, but the flip side of the record (same duo) is called "Who'll drive my blues away".
This roll certainly sounds like Jimmy Blythe. Terrific jazz piano playing with great swing and invention!
Hi ....................I have this on Paramount 12231 with the 2 takes of Who ll Drive My Blues Away...........Yes it is the same TUNE but this roll is much better as It is Blythe alone and at his best
High Springs Water Blues on Pm12231 has composer credit to Sodarisa Miller. There are no master and take number shown in the wax of the run off groove area but 3 digits = 240 . The label states James Blythe as the pianist
According to Blues & Gospel records 4th edition 1997 page
Capitol A - 1958 was recut by Don Rand on his own CLARK Label
1= Blue Kentucky Blues ; 2= Shorty George Blues ; 3= Colorado Blues ; 4= Chicago Stomp ; 5= Hot Spring Water Blues ; 6= How Come You Do Me Like You Do ; 7= Priscilla's Blues ; 8= Yellow Dog blues ; 9= Kansas City Man Blues ;10= War Horse Mama Blues
Tracks 2, 6, 8 , 9 , and 10 are by Clarence Johnson and 4 , 5 , 7 by James Blythe 1 and 2 have not been heard but likely by either of these guys
Number 6 was copyright in 1925
05Toamasina1938 1 year ago
@05Toamasina1938 Interesting.
Yaledmot 1 year ago
@Yaledmot
Thank You
05Toamasina1938 1 year ago
This is very cool! My knowledge of players and rolls is very limited, but I would not be surprised if James Blythe played the roll. Fats Waller had done quite a few, in fact there is a CD out there (somewhere) that is a compilation of rolls done by Waller, beautifully recorded. I've heard parts of it. I love player pianos and Regina music boxes, but that's a hobby that's way out of my budget! Thanks for sharing!
stratocat9999 1 year ago
Capitol #2051, "Birmingham Blues" was released in February 1927 with 'Hot Spring Water Blues' as the final tune on the roll (#10). This is probably that roll?
autopiano 2 years ago
@autopiano
Would you be kind enough to list the 10 tunes issued on this CAPITOL A - 2051 roll PLEASE ?
That would help
Best
05Toamasina1938 1 year ago
@05Toamasina1938
2051- BIRMINGHAM BLUES—(1) I've Got a New
Mama Down in New Orleans; (2) Forty-seventh Street
Stomp; (3) Trouble in Mind; (4) Shake That Thing;
(5) State Street Skiffle; (6) Back Alley Rub; (7) Jackass
Blues; (8) Hard to Get Gertie; (9) Dixie Dreams Blues;
(10) Hot Spring Water Blues.
Please don't ask me for any more information in future as, having read some of your rude and abusive comments on other peoples videos, I don't feel the desire to help you further.
autopiano 1 year ago
@autopiano
Thanks for your reply but , shame for your comments
Stupidity , ignorance and arrogance request strong reaction when coming from other American KIDDIES, who boost themselves as the masters of this world when it comes to piano rolls , and I am not including you in this bunch
Sorry for you , but I am an EUROPEAN and that's the way we deal with such situations . You do not like it ....that's NOT my problem
May be someday you ll understand .........................may be ?
05Toamasina1938 1 year ago
Having now heard the Paramount record with Sodarisa Miller and Jimmy Blythe, I can tell you for sure that this is Blythe playing the roll, since the introduction and some of the licks are identical.
However, he does take it slower on the recording, but I must remember that the coin piano doesn't have as flexible a tempo control as a regular player piano, and also, that if Blythe played this tune as a solo, he himself might have played it faster.
KawhackitaRag 2 years ago
An example of tempo difference is the Waller recording on the Estey organ at Camden studio. His solo recordings are taken at a faster clip than the same piece being played with, say, Alberta Hunter--and often in a different key to suit her.
Yaledmot 2 years ago
This capitol roll 1958 is not listed in Mike Montgomery's Rollography BUT from the number shown it was recorded in 1927 hence 3 years after the commercial recording with Sodarisa Miller for Paramount !
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
Which rollography did you consult? The one that is online is Mike Montgomery's listing of Columbia/Capitol 88-note rolls, which were one tune each and meant for home player pianos. There are many gaps in the rollography due to the extreme scarcity of some of the rolls.
Mike Montgomery has also made a Columbia/Capitol A-roll list, which is of the large rolls for coin pianos like this one in the video, with 10 tunes per roll. However, this A-roll list has never been online, just on paper.
KawhackitaRag 2 years ago
Who'll Drive My Blues Away = on Pm12231 shows composer credit to Aletha Dickerson . she was scout talent and a house pianist for Paramount . She knew Blythe very well !!! Thi has Mastrix 9037 in wax and digit 241 shown on the label only
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
Is it possible to know on which roll this was and which brand Please ? . I do NOT think that Mike Montgomery knew about it
THANKS again
This is fantastic for the Boogie part of it
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
It is supposedly a Clark Orchestra Roll
recut Capitol 1958. That is all I know. I have several superb rolls done by Ed Gaida, but this was not one of them.
KawhackitaRag knows more about these rolls than I do, but I gather from his posts elsewhere, this roll's origin was a mystery to him as well.
Sorry I cannot be of more help.
Yaledmot 2 years ago
Thanks again for the information
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
Hi, I don't yet have a copy of Mike Montgomery's Capitol rollography of all their A-rolls, but I would be surprised if this wasn't at least listed in there. Apparently, Ed Sprankle helped Mr. Montgomery compile a list of nearly all rolls they ever released, in terms of tune titles. Some of the rolls themselves have not turned up in 80 years.
However, I think this probably is indeed Capitol A-1958, just recut by Don Rand, who uses "Clark Orchestra Roll" as his business handle now.
KawhackitaRag 2 years ago
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Hi, I don't yet have a copy of Mike Montgomery's Capitol rollography of all their A-rolls, but I would be surprised if this wasn't at least listed in there. Apparently, Ed Sprankle helped Mr. Montgomery compile a list of nearly all rolls they ever released, in terms of tune titles. Some of the rolls themselves have not turned up in 80 years.
However, I think this probably is indeed Capitol A-1958, just recut by Don Rand, who uses "Clark Orchestra Roll" as his business handle now.
KawhackitaRag 2 years ago
This might be the same tune recorded as "Hot Springs Water Blues" by the lady singer Sodarisa Miller on Paramount record 12231, in August 1924, with piano accompaniment by James Blythe. (I have not yet heard this record, but would love to!); I am not sure who wrote the tune, but the flip side of the record (same duo) is called "Who'll drive my blues away".
This roll certainly sounds like Jimmy Blythe. Terrific jazz piano playing with great swing and invention!
KawhackitaRag 2 years ago
Hi ....................I have this on Paramount 12231 with the 2 takes of Who ll Drive My Blues Away...........Yes it is the same TUNE but this roll is much better as It is Blythe alone and at his best
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
High Springs Water Blues on Pm12231 has composer credit to Sodarisa Miller. There are no master and take number shown in the wax of the run off groove area but 3 digits = 240 . The label states James Blythe as the pianist
According to Blues & Gospel records 4th edition 1997 page
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
FANTASTIC!
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago