Coast to Coast AM - 4 of 11 - 9/11 Debate (Aug. 21, 2010)

[newsmanbluesman]

Testimony from an individual, which suggests a giant story that everyone has missed, but for maybe one other person - and which story affects the whole planet - that all describes Darwin on his way to the publishers. Is Thomas/are people here suggesting Darwin (or any truther) should have had no help gathering evidence thereafter - and maybe shouldnt have published at all, since his work was too speculative? Great attitude.

[HellRehab]

I'm totally unimpressed with gage. Testimonies of individuals can be countered by testimony of other individuals but the overall impressions from the video with audio sounds NOTHING like controlled demolition. maybe he'll make a case for it, but i'm not hearing it and I'm at 11:17.

Testimony form individuals who are in the heat of the moment isn't reliable, Gage should know this. Testimony by individuals is how we get UFO stories for god's sake.

[bluestargalaxy]

Dave is missing out a lot there are recorded explosions and many witnesses, same goes for his comment on that if the crane brought up white hot metal chunk close on edge to melting he said it woud break up the crane, he obviously have not been in a real blacksmith shop A BIG LOL  what a joke ! the sound measurements has indeed been recorded ,

there several graphs on YT search soundwaves 911

[danno88]

What exactly is the credentials of Dave Thomas? A perfect example of someone trying to prove a point that doesn't have a clue of what he talking about. It blows me away that someone can actually be this stupid, and even more so that other people believe it. Anybody that studies all the events surrounding 9/11 will know without a shadow of doubt that it was an inside job.

[dsemencar]

@danno88 13:40 proves that your man is a charlatan/ nut. Or maybe he is just a hack. I don't see anything on his website that discusses the decibel level of these "explosions". I'll go with Ian on this one, that these sounds are cannot be explained...I could assume that the buckling of the building right before collapse would produce these noises.

[mikeyt34]

Hey Gage, Thermite or explosives!!! Pick one you fucking idiot.  Can't you truthers see he is full of shit?

[mikeyt34]

Gage and his "explosions"....Ha Ha....Out of context in all of the oral histories. He keeps bringing it up and anyone who knows anything knows how to destroy his argument that these explosions could have been dozens of different things. TRUTHERS....EXPLOSIONS DO NOT EQUAL EXPLOSIVES!!!! Gage is a skake oil salesman and you truthers are a bunch of dupes.

[punkamunka]

Maybe one day OSers will demand the release of all evidence, and shut us truthers up. You'd think with such a slam dunk case they wouldve done that from the start. Instead it took pressure from the families of 9-11 dead to even initiate hearings. And Bushklan fought it all the way. 8 of those 19 dead hijackers have come forward to say they are alive and well. That alone should warrant an investigation. After all those real dead hijackers may have friends planning something big right?

[punkamunka]

Just release all of the Pentagon videos, the black box tapes from all the planes, the testimony of Bushklan testifying before the 9-11 commision, as well as having the commisioners testify on what they meant when they said "of course were being lied to about 9-11."

[punkamunka]

I also found it curious watching news footage from 9-11, that several commentators were remarking that from the color change of the smoke, it looked like the fires were cooling and perhaps sprinklers were on, making the smoke go from dark black to a lighter gray. That combined with tapes of NYFD FF saying could knock down the fies with a cpl of 2inch lines. Not exactly a towering inferno.

[punkamunka]

Next time they want to demolish a building, they should be smart and fiscally responsible. instead of paying hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of dollars, they should save their money and just remote an old graveyard plane with full tanks into it and it should fall neatly into its own footprint after an hour or 2. After all, the OSers can show us 3 examples of this proven method.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep this coming from the guy who asked for pentagon debris then immediately ran to the shill card. don't worry, your box of stupid is here for all to see.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

Sure champ let me know when you have evidence that the buildings disintegrated.

[MrMollypockets]

SEEMS LIKE TROUBLE,watched a lot of Coast to Coast and always thought they were neutral,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,not so now,,,,,,end of an era I guess,,,,,,,,all good things must end

[punkamunka]

@MrMollypockets Always thought they were neutral? I don't understand, how is having a debate about 9-11 with a Truther and an OSer debating not being neutral? If anything, by not towing either sides line they are the only ones being neutral. Do you want neutral or do you just want them to support your view?

One more news outlet joining the other drive by media, hopey changey, libtard, socialist, communist, fascist, leftist gang. Well you guys still have Rush Neutral and Fair/Balanced Fox.

[pana376]

well cardboard boxes are softer than structural steel

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

OMG!! AND 2012 IS RIGHT AROUDN TEH CORNER!!!!!111eleventy

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

Uh huh...and I will be in real trouble when Jesus gets back too. Oh well I guess when you buy 1 load of BS its so much easier for more to sneak in.

Another truther with 0 evidence.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep "ÿou're a parrot...you're a parrot...you're a parrot"

Oh the irony.

[artvandelay0]

Controlled demolition? Dave Thomas can't even spell controlled demolition, that's why he is so afraid to admit that it happened. Remember in 93, bombs WERE found in the WTC? Just a reminder that it is possible!

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep 9/11 truth...as always full of logic and evidence.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

Thanks philly, it wasn't obvious enough truthers had no arguments. that about did it.

[pana376]

Dave analogies are crazy compairing dropping water ballons and bowling ball totaly unproffetional

[grandmastershek]

@pana376

And Richard Gage uses cardboard boxes.

[rrfilmproduction]

Ian Punnett needs to shut the fuck up and let Richard talk.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep "ad hom ad hom ad hom"

9/11 truth in action!

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

Everyone come quick! We got some twoof!

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

Wow..that was thought provoking.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep

i am sure most truthers find facts boring.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep " yawn yawn yawn....."

Going back to sleep?

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep "LA LA LA LA LA!!!!"

[billp4]

Absolutely. There is NOTHING pushing down on the building yet the towers disintegrate all the way through many undamaged floors. On one of the towers the top part of the building was starting to topple but it just disintegrated. Just watch the towers fall and you know what happened.

[grandmastershek]

@billp4 Your right there is somehting pulling down. We call it gravity.

Disintegrated? I love how truthers have x ray vision and can see through the debris field.

Look up fulcrum.

[mselliot2]

id like to see Richard Gage power drive Dave Thomas:)

[grandmastershek]

@Habfan1909 "I can't believe you are paid for this!"

Evidence? Oh right I am talking to a truther. Speculation, paranoia, and beliefs = fact.

"1270 A&E's"

Appeal to authority. Keep swinging for the fences.

" uhs and duhs."

Sure he did. Thats why pointed to his physics models. Ya know he does the actual math as opposed to Gage and his regurgitation of other people's BS.

[interlovepol]

@grandmastershek

this guy is a paid commentor. Look at his channel to see the profile of a paid troll - also note the Glenn Beckish word choice and offensive, lone wolf style - all his posts are on 911 vids, even though he obviously opposes a new investigation so shouldnt care. Back under the bridge

[blackshirts13]

Hey retard Dave, there were explosions! It's right there for every one to see. This retard Dave guy is unbelievable!

[grandmastershek]

@blackshirts13 Yet not to hear.

watch?v=aBOd1XB943o

[yourmumstube78]

I don't know whether to be embarrased or angred by dave thomas's complete incompatence and ignorance, he admits to molton iron but cant explain how it became molton which is common knowledge is a product of around 2700 degrees

in one of the clips he says that if you put a bowling ball on your toe its fine but if you drop it from head height it will break your toe.... ok so when he was saying that the top of the building was pushing down on the botom half that this was pulverising everything...

[grandmastershek]

@yourmumstube78 he was illustrating static versus dynamic load.

[grandmastershek]

@Habfan1909

Question...what makes Gage an authority on demolitions and nanochemistry? Oh right , nothing...but he baselessly speculate all the time.

[blackshirts13]

@grandmastershek He cites sources. duh

[grandmastershek]

@blackshirts13

Sources from research which can't pass peer review. FYI Hab began the credentials pissing match. Not me.

[grandmastershek]

@Habfan1909

Pssst....BA in architecture and building a few school gyms doesn't make Gage an authority either. Gage is just regurgitating BS thats been debunked for years. He's just a clown that duped other into putting him on world tour.

[grandmastershek]

@Habfan1909

He's a research physicist on staff at New Mexico Tech. He's a real scientist as opposed to Gage who thinks card board boxes represent steel building collapses.

[grandmastershek]

@phillyshep "OPEN YOUR EYES...."

Indeed

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[Seigu007]

Dave Thomas is a stuttering, blabbering idiot. Clueless.

[kevhead66]

@Habfan1909 lol. he's hawkin' burgers

[kc0696]

I know Punnett is trying to mediate, but his claim that we don't need testimony from people but just need to listen to the video to know if there were explosions is RIDICULOUS. Thomas insists that no one heard explosions even after Gage states that 118 rescue workers heard them. Wow. Amazing how people have literally dedicated themselves to avoiding the explosives theory even if it means ignoring the facts and adhering to theories that are in no way supported by science or precedent.

[grandmastershek]

@kc0696

Except you guys ignore the fact that none of that happened anywhere near the collapses.

Whats amazing is that a fringe group has developed around a collection of kooks who constantly avoid real academic scrutiny. Dozens articles in real journals corroborate the "official story", and are supported by the relevant organizations. \How many for any form of demolition? 0.

[GlobalDating]

Richard, you should bring up that video clip where you do hear the sound of an explosion on film. plus there is another one of the ground shaking before the collapse. you should direct people to the film "9/11 revisited: were explosives used?"

[grandmastershek]

@GlobalDating

Does it happen during the collapses?

Then its pointless.

[beauzer36]

Lets say the floors gave way due to what they say. There would be vertical core columns sticking straight up if there were just concrete crumbling around it. None of these debunkers ever take that on. They want us to think it was just a concrete building with steel floors. It was an electromagnetic pulse weapon from space.

[MiaRyanne]

Richard Gage should not be bound by "thermite". We can't be sure that some other "exotic" weaponry could not have also produced this by-product. Do not let them corner the "truth" movement into one demolition technique. I tend to believe it was done with some sort of directed energy weapon...I would not even rule out some sort of nuclear reaction. They obviously knew the byproducts that would be produced from this reaction, This technology would have been tested prior to use.

[beauzer36]

@MiaRyanne Agree. Space based electro-magnetic pulse weaponry.

Those missing trillions of dollars is going somewhere.

[sssssjjjj1]

hahahahha. This is pathetic. Ian Punnett lets thomas get away with the temperature needed and thomas just babbels and it's just dandy. This is a joke. A complete joke!!!!! hahahha. This is beyond ridiculous.  The unexploded thermite could have been produced by the impacts of normal material and he'll let his friend talk about it later, he says!!!!! hahahahhahaha! this is unbelievable. Totally bogus. hahahhahaha. Thermite could have been produced by impacts of normal material. loling.

[JZJYRWO]

There was evidence of radiation on 9/11, there is China Syndrome at Ground Zero! Thermite couldn't have been the main component of this demolition.

[centrino105]

Thomas is an embarrassment to science and to humanity.

[mooners40]

watch '9/11 explosive reality' for witness accounts - watch?v=CTAeKVul3uA for comparison of known demolitions with wtc7 - watch?v=ak2MjMhST1Y

watch?v=zGzJxDSVRTA - examples

[mooners40]

"118 Witnesses:

The Firefighters’ Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers" article by MacQueen

read the quotes for yourself

[mooners40]

fire cannot cause the iron spherules in the dust - the temperatures are incompatible - thomas can't answer

[skatopolis]

Wow.

Ricky ol' Boy destroy's Dave on the molten metal. Ha!

And WHYTF are the views going down? It's just starting to get good..

And not for Mr. Dave 'Wendy's Frosty-face' Thomas over there lol

nahh but he means well righttt. because you know we would just waste more money if we (TRULY) investigated September 11th/01. Not unlike our two wars that have been waged in direct result of that day.. costing an all-out unimaginable price.

[awatcher1980]

@skatopolis

Cant necessarily trust the view counter has been documented that youtube changes them and knocks them down alternately maybe got tired of listening to Ian

what a C$%&

[tealbutterfly05]

ian is fucking retarded. how does someone like this get on air?

[awatcher1980]

@tealbutterfly05

Yea and on such an open minded show.

Just sent an email to all the contacts on Coast to Coast am s website begging them to fire Ian. He such an Idiot. Everyone should email Coast to Coast and Ian and let them know how great the show is and how much of a wanker Ian is

he is not objective at all. Tell him to go work for Faux News

[GlobalDating]

@awatcher1980 agreed. plus we should email Ian and correct him on his errors. his email is on the coast to coast website. here it is: ian @ coasttocoastam.c o m (remove spaces)

[deke76]

Dave needs to go back to cooking burgers. He makes a lot of points that have already been disproved for years now.

[blavatsky3]

vvww dot AE911truth dot or g

Wouldn't a proper independent investigation answer all these questions once and for all ?

Why oppose such an investigation unless you are trying to cover something up ...

sniff sniff something smells fishy

[funkhausen]

If you watch Bush's 7 minutes of silence all the way you got a point for investigation there. For me this was a ritual sacrifice. The scene in that classroom says it all.

The kids under the spritual guidance of the high priestess (the teacher) chanting plain must hit steel and then bow, bush reading my pet goat. If you know the occult, kabala, the meaning of 9-11 (numerology), the worship of Molech than yougot a clue right there. No this is not Hollywood or Hammerhouse from the 70's.

[watda74]

9:46 Wrong...

One of the news networks was near Bldg 7 w/ firefighters when they ALL heard very loud explosions (like Richard countered) and they had to evacuate the area. This is one of many official news reports taking place that day that are now found only on Youtube. I wish I had the presence of mind to record the events like those smart people did.