I love my old Lee Loaders, but none of the calibers I reload with it drive into (or out of) the die so easily! I use a much heavier dead-blow hammer, work on a spare anvil, and still have to WOMP this suckers in.
But it is possible to use the old tools to make the most accurate ammo you'll ever shoot.
If you flip the sizing die over you can crimp with it nicely.
The bullet seating tool has a ring that you can use to set your exact bullet seat depth.
These kits work with the load they're made for extremely well, mine is in .44 magnum.
Full length sizing takes a bit more force, but it works just fine.
They apparently were competition winners for quite a long time, Neck sizing gives you superior accuracy if you use only one rifle and you can get perfect powder charges with a scale and trickler.
I can't believe I didn't know this existed. VERY cool. What sort of accuracy can be expected in .223? Is neck sizing appropriate for reloading cartridges to be used in more than one rifle? Can I expect good extraction in an AR?
@chopinbloc no mate, unfortunately, as far as i know autoloaders need to be full length sized. but im sure that they are made in full length size aswell
@chopinbloc Neck sizing is pretty 'iffy' for autoloaders or pumps because they don't have the powerful camming action that a bolt gun has to close the action on a slightly oversized round. As far as accuracy goes, IIRC there are still some standing accuracy records that were set using ammo made with Lee Loaders.
Dang, this process makes all the press loading methods look like a monumental waste of time. Where can I get this reloading toolkit and what is the exact name of this product? Thanks
This is without a doubt the coolest little loader that you can take you with you anywhere, anywhen; bug out bag to BBQ.
I use a single stage RCBS right now and really love it. I like the ability to zone out from the world and just concentrate on the loads.
But - if you are a reloader or just getting started this is very cool for the 'go bang' stuff; might not be able to crank out precise competition loads, but could be the difference between dinner or MRE's from Gulf 1.
Is this only appropriate for cartridges that have already gone through your rifle since it's just neck sizing? Would be cool to get just this but looks like I may need to go with the LEE handpress
@EverythingisFire yeah its fine to reload used brass, i use this loader for my .223 and i usually load each shell 6-8 times with it. you can lengthen the brass with lees case trimmer, trust me this is all you need for reloading. this loader plus a case trimmer, case chamfer and a primer pocket cleaner you may have 40$ invested into it and it works perfectly fine.
So with the case trimmer, I could use these Lee Loader kits on brand new brass too? I'm looking at reloading 6.5x55 Swede so brass isn't exactly laying around at the range haha :) I don't own a reloading manual yet so I don't know very much about this stuff. Would love to get this kit, looks fun!
This video is, without a doubt, the finest demonstration of how to use a Lee Loader I have ever seen. Right to the point with no wasted time and information!
Started my reloading 40 years ago with a Lee Loader in 30-30. Have long since "graduated" to reloading with a press. But the Lee Loader loads ammo just as good, is practical and compact. And, as you so well demonstrate here, it ain't near as slow as people think!
Thanks for the reminder of long past, FONDLY remembered days!
Years ago I bought a used Savage 10 in .223, and was quite fond of it. What I wasn't fond of was having to buy expensive factory ammo to get good groups with it. Even the $14/20 Fiocchi match stuff wasn't making great groups.
In all that shooting, though, I did accumulate a nice pile of quality brass, so I figured I'd get a Lee Classic, beam scale, and 69gr SMKs to reload some practice loads. With the ammunition I hammered together, I outshot even the best factory match loads I had tried.
I just ordered a classic lee reloader for 9mm. I am going to meditate on this video. And I am going to watch this video a few hundred times. I should be able to do it blindfold then, well not really, but I should be ready. Great set-up and fast, thank.
Sir I believe you did it in 35 seconds. Nice demo. I have been reloading for about 15 years on single stage and progressive presses, but have always been interested in these Lee Loaders. Thanks for the Demo.
@hairmonster12 I had that problem when i was starting, but I found that if there's anything at all on the seating anvil, it can transfer pressure to the primer. And be sure you're not using the decapping rod!
@raimundough It's possible to set off a primer every once in a great while, which may scare the crap out of you, but its fairly harmless unless you're pointing it right into your eye or something like an idiot. Other than that, if you follow the steps in order, there's just no way to have an accident with this or any other popular reloading systems.
When the bullet is seated, the bottom of the case rests on like a donut hole. So there's no pressure on the primer as the round becomes "live".
@raimundough It will only feed well if you're using it with a single shot or bolt action rifle. Most reloading systems resize the whole case, but the Lee Loader only resizes the neck of the case. So the case remains "fire formed" to the inside of your rifle chamber. So you can only shoot the reloaded ammo from the rifle that fired the original round. And not if that rifle is tube fed or semi-auto, since those types of guns are made to cycle the ammo a little looser in the chamber.
This is a great way to reload if you are short on funds. I have produced some extremely accurate rounds with this method, I would highly recommend to anyone interested in this type of reloading.
I own a set of lee classic loaders so I know how they work. Crimping the bullet at the end is only required for handgun rounds. He is obviously reloading rifle rounds, so as he resizes the neck; the neck is slightly sized down from the diameter of the bullet, and as a result when the bullet is seated at the end there is no crimping required, that is why with these loaders (for rifle rounds at least) you are required to use jacketed bullets.
Just got one of these for my .30-06. So far it's my favorite way to reload. Once it's adjusted for bullet depth there's nothing to set up or change out. I did swap out the included powder dipper for a slightly bigger one that throws my preffered charge though. I love people's reactions when they watch me make rounds with a hammer.
Reloading with the lee loader is an "lost art". People think it´s highly dangerous, "oldschool" and not as precice as with press. Guys at my school were highly impressed when I did a tutorial class of how to reload with the Lee Loader. We also reloaded similar ammo with Hornady press tool, and witnessed that there was no accuracy loss using the Lee Loader than the press. Actually we shot slightly better groups with only neck sized cartridges.
what is dangerious is ,he bangs on the new primer .the shock of banging is not good i rather have a press fit no banging one day he will bang on this and bingo no head or eye presssing a primer in is best bar none and he has loose gun power laying open again not safe
@loasfast the problem with the scoops is that you cant precisely measure the amount of pouder because with those scoops they arnt always 100% acurate =)
This method of reloading is not as precise as conventional reloading presses. The powder charge is definitely not going to be consistent. Plus it is not as safe.
@PainTrane01 Bullshit, you don't have a clue. This is how handloading started. At one time high priced guns came with a reloading set and bullet molds. As far as not consistent to this day Lee supplies all their die sets with a dipper calibrated for that cartridge.
I couldnt help it, I had to buy another Lee Loader for my good ol' 30-06 sprg. I have one for .308 win. Awesome kit. I actually detonated the primer once, but I didnt notice it before it started to smell like something was burning, checked the case and noticed the primer did blow up. :) Nothing dangerous loading with these tools.
The only problem I've experienced with the classic loader[s] are defective cartridges due to the primer powder bouncing out of the primer cup, because I hammered too hard applying the crimp... a moderate 'tap' seems to do the job just fine....
acoop: Tks... I bought a Lee 'O' press used, on E-Bay, and some used dies, to keep costs down... between lead, pot, molds, and loaders, I have already spent several hundred dollars.... 308: I bet that you can get a decent crimp on the .454 with the .45 Lee die... I don't bother hammering the .38 or .44 brass into the die for resizing, since they are difficult to get out [ KISS], and chamber just fine in my revolvers w/o resizing...
I like my Lee Loaders in .357 & .44..... wish I could get them in 8mm Mauser and .300 Savage....It is very simple & easy.... now I go shooting largely to try my hand-loads.....
@xzqzq lee used to make custom lee loaders, not sure if they do still but might I sugest for the same amount of trouble that you could use the lee hand press and dies? Not much more expensive and not as limiting you can load and shoot just about anything with one and they don't take up as much room.
These loaders are a great way for a beginner to learn basic handloading. I started out this way. It is a very slow process. Took me one hour to load 50 .357's so it depends on how much shooting a person wants and how much time you spend reloading this way. I strongly suggest no one try to speed load with this tool or any other means. Keep your powder away from the work area and BE CAREFULL with seating primers! Its too easy to accidentally detonate a primer inside that die! Everyone does it!
Lee Loaders are great. I had one in .357. I'm really frustrated that I can't find one ANYWHERE for 8mm Mauser, 7.7 Japanese, or 6.5 Japanese. These things are ideal for the odd calibers, but I only find them in the most common sizes.
I have no experience with reloading, but i would love to get one of these. Just one question though, how do you know exactly how much powder you are putting in the case? I thought the weight of the powder had to be very precise, but you just scoop it and throw it in.
Seating the primer is easier than I thought it would be (no explosions...yet) but I`m getting crinkeled case neck lips when I seat the bullet, even after chamfering inside of neck. These are unusable. Some vids show use of lube (haven`t used any yet) and others must have older models with a flaring tool included - mine didn`t come w/one. Looks like Lee is using boat tails, my 30-30`s are flat w/full copper on the bottom, lead maybe would shave instead of crushing the lip.
Amazing little tool. I've never reloaded before and the Lee loader made it very simple for a beginner like me to get into reloading. I also bought and recommend the Lee auto prime. This loader sure tightened my groups up. Thank you Mr. Lee!
just tried my first batch of reloaded rounds with this reloader, and the results are already looking great. was able to tighten up my groups. looking forward to the next batch. this works great for anyone who wants to start reloading.
I've got one in 308w and one in 6.5x55 Sweed . There great to use , very easy . I measure my powder with an electronic scale rather than use the scoop . Great results and very accurate ammunition . There a great bit of gear .
The only thing i would disagree on is the powder scoop, not that its unsafe, just that i prefer to know what exactly the load is as to modify the load in the future.
I started with one of these when I was 17. My dad thought I was crazy. In truth the design is utterly safe and ingenious. I still load with mostly classic loaders in an apartment complex. The epihphany of the stone paver makes discrete reloading possible. I use an auto prime tool though - picks up the speed of your reloading and gives peace of mind that it's harder to screw up and blow a primer.
If you ever look at one closely, you'll see if you follow the directions about the worst that could happen is you pop a primer when seating it. Not a big deal since there no power or anything in it. Once the case is charged, the primer is protected the whole time. IIRC, ammo reloaded with one of these held the world record for like 7 years. It's a good, cheap, completely portable system.
I reloaded .303 British with this kit for years. You can make excellent cartridges with this. Very safe, the odd time a primer would go off, but thats before the powder goes in and the primer seating tool is in anyways. Did make me jump tho.
It's basically that easy,for real. The only issue that may arise is that after a few reloads the brass can become elongated and may need to be trimmed for length.
@littlebiscuits I used to trim them everytime anyways, sometimes they would need it sometimes not. The .303 Brit case's don't last long because of the large headspace, but thats why they didn't jam in the mud of WW 1, most of the time.
Oh Fuck Off ! How is it "Dangerous" ? Maybe because you do not know how it works ? Fucking dumb trolls . This guy in the video is a genius for coming up with this . I'm sure he had people who didn't know what they were talking about telling him "Oh that's dangerous" too .I'm glad he didn't listen to them or we wouldn't have the reloading tech we have today .
@jonmorry333 It may not be the most accurate peice of equipment out there and not for the guy that builds "match" loads, but it works. You got limitted space and don't mind the short comings of volume only loading this is a great peice of equiment. I own one for my .30-30 and I have an old 12 gauge shot gun reloader from Lee that works on the same principle.
i watch this vid like 10x in a row, everyday, other vids have guys taking 4 min plus each round and they wack the bullet over and over, I love how this guy shows you the step by step on how to do it fast with out the "beating of a dead horse", I will watch this vid till I am just as fast as him...
@freesoulvw He "invented" that loader. Of course he can do it that fast. Also, it's hard to do a bullet in under four minutes when you're explaining and showing how the loader works
Nice product for a small reloading set up. Most of the nay sayers are the rookies who go out and spend 600 setting up a progressive system. The lee loader will give you consistency and thrift.....that is what reloading is all about. Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me first say, Mr. Lee knows his business well. For all of you who think he's not taking enough care with measurement and soforth. Remember, This is a video that shows how one could load a round in 40 seconds but is not implying one should do their loading in this way. I think the Lee loader is a great product. It really does do a great job. This should be purchased and used by someone who really wants to get started. The lee company has great products and very good people.
So long as you carefully sort out beforehand (a) which powder you're using, (b) how much of it the scoop you choose will pick up and (c) that you've got the appropriate projectiles ready to put on top, it should be almost impossible to get into trouble. This is the "fail-safe" doctrine - whatever you do, it's still safe.
ok ok...so i just buy the small red box (loader) for a 40 sw...what about the other tools he has in the picture...the little thing the bull sits in , and the tool he used to seat the bullet
this is better for the individual loader who doesn't want to pay a fortune for a reloading kit, $20-$30 for the lee loader compared to $100-$200 for a press kit.
From the man himself! I highly doubt Mr. Lee loads this way for his own loads. I'm sure this was just an example of how fast his basic loader can function. But, if you know your brass and supplies well, there's no reason you couldn't crank out 1 (quality) round every 1.5 min.
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Wow, that is a little scary. I new a guy who reloaded this way, and all I can say is that he is very lucky. Without a scale, there is no way of knowing how much powder you are loading. In my opinion you should learn to reload correctly our just don't do it.
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Yeah i would not put that into my gun first i thought the primer was going to exploded when he as hitting it and then when he added the powder measure wow well maybe it works for him but not for this canuck
@WJQ1960 this im sure is gonna be a retarded question but can you trim the cases with a standard tube cutter or is there a special tool. im trying to save as much money as possible... hence the reloading and the 25$ kit lol
the scoop is the powder measure and if you're careful it will do the job fine. Also, the cartridge is forced to be a certain length by the whole resizing and bullet seating process. Measuring with callipers is something you might do now and then to check the batch is still the same length but once the dies are set up you should be good to go for a bit and measure a few of the cartridges later.
only need to measure the case if you don't know where it came from. I'm sure after some history loading for a particular gun, you would know how many firings your brass can take before needing trimming.
My only concern before purchasing this is setting off primers when hammering them in. How frequently does this happen and is it something that can be completely avoided with proper technique?
I've reloaded 200+ rounds with mine for 7.62x54r and have only had one primer go off and that was because I didn't have the primer seated in the spring loaded chamber completly so I was hammering the cartrage I was trying to prime down onto the edge of the primer.
If you are really concerned about this a hand priming tool can be had for fairly cheap and it removes this problem comlpetly.
I started reloading with a $15 used Lee Loader when I was 18. I reloaded for my .30-30 Marlin 336C. I now use an RCBS Rock Chucker for most of my reloading.
I still reload for 303 British on a Lee loader in fact, albeit I use an auto prime tool.
One thing I want to add is that the other side of the loader tool can be used to apply a roll crimp to the bullet. This can be useful to prevent bullets from creeping in or out of the shell casing in a magazine.
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If you want to reload, buy a real setup. You don't need anything fancy and good deals are out there if you look around. At minimum, you need a good reloading manual, (Lyman is great), a caliper, and a scale. I would never recommend reloading anything w/out getting these things first. RCBS makes a little press called the Partner that is awesome for a beginner. Stay safe and good shooting.
Thanks for making this video Sir...I always wondered how you used one of those little Loader kits. Seems like a handy thing to have laying around at Hunting Camp!
I'm going to call you old timer if you don't mind. Great video, great technique. I noticed you "double dipped" your powder scooper which is a no no as it isn't as accurate as just pushing it once thru. I realize you were loading for speed and you did a very good job. I use the same for my .303 British. Makes much better ammo than factory for sure and much cheaper.
the man shown made the damn scoop. If he wants he double dip with it, he gets to double dip with it. The proper use of the LEE loader should be up to mister LEE not you.
An excellent surface is a a 39 cent paver brick, available at a building supply store. Use a foam pad under the brick. A piece of wood on top center of the paver prevents damage to the Lee Loader.
I love my old Lee Loaders, but none of the calibers I reload with it drive into (or out of) the die so easily! I use a much heavier dead-blow hammer, work on a spare anvil, and still have to WOMP this suckers in.
But it is possible to use the old tools to make the most accurate ammo you'll ever shoot.
rajvader 4 days ago
If you flip the sizing die over you can crimp with it nicely.
The bullet seating tool has a ring that you can use to set your exact bullet seat depth.
These kits work with the load they're made for extremely well, mine is in .44 magnum.
Full length sizing takes a bit more force, but it works just fine.
They apparently were competition winners for quite a long time, Neck sizing gives you superior accuracy if you use only one rifle and you can get perfect powder charges with a scale and trickler.
CtrlAltRetreat 1 month ago
I can't believe I didn't know this existed. VERY cool. What sort of accuracy can be expected in .223? Is neck sizing appropriate for reloading cartridges to be used in more than one rifle? Can I expect good extraction in an AR?
chopinbloc 2 months ago
@chopinbloc no mate, unfortunately, as far as i know autoloaders need to be full length sized. but im sure that they are made in full length size aswell
thehodge168 1 month ago
@chopinbloc Neck sizing is pretty 'iffy' for autoloaders or pumps because they don't have the powerful camming action that a bolt gun has to close the action on a slightly oversized round. As far as accuracy goes, IIRC there are still some standing accuracy records that were set using ammo made with Lee Loaders.
806D2 1 week ago
THX
shippen2010 2 months ago
Ahh, never mind - found it!:)
dingoatyahoo 2 months ago
Dang, this process makes all the press loading methods look like a monumental waste of time. Where can I get this reloading toolkit and what is the exact name of this product? Thanks
dingoatyahoo 2 months ago
This is without a doubt the coolest little loader that you can take you with you anywhere, anywhen; bug out bag to BBQ.
I use a single stage RCBS right now and really love it. I like the ability to zone out from the world and just concentrate on the loads.
But - if you are a reloader or just getting started this is very cool for the 'go bang' stuff; might not be able to crank out precise competition loads, but could be the difference between dinner or MRE's from Gulf 1.
Cmdr213 3 months ago
no crimp?
modex20 3 months ago
Is this only appropriate for cartridges that have already gone through your rifle since it's just neck sizing? Would be cool to get just this but looks like I may need to go with the LEE handpress
EverythingisFire 4 months ago
@EverythingisFire yeah its fine to reload used brass, i use this loader for my .223 and i usually load each shell 6-8 times with it. you can lengthen the brass with lees case trimmer, trust me this is all you need for reloading. this loader plus a case trimmer, case chamfer and a primer pocket cleaner you may have 40$ invested into it and it works perfectly fine.
ktktwix 3 months ago
@ktktwix
So with the case trimmer, I could use these Lee Loader kits on brand new brass too? I'm looking at reloading 6.5x55 Swede so brass isn't exactly laying around at the range haha :) I don't own a reloading manual yet so I don't know very much about this stuff. Would love to get this kit, looks fun!
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informative concise and supremely enjoyable to watch.
tomterahedrob 5 months ago 3
If I had my choice between a single stage press and a Lee loader; I would choose the Lee Loader hands down.
Hunter09686 5 months ago
Crimping is optional, but can be done with the other end of the sizing die.
Hunter09686 5 months ago
did he forget to crimp the bullet?
zhagray 5 months ago
@zhagray
bottle necked rifle cartridges are not typically crimped, cartridges for lever actions are an occassional exception
kwb375 5 months ago
A great, practical and compact tool for re-loading on the fly if you need to. If I had a bug-out bag, I'd have one of these in it.
bigdogbuc 6 months ago
Sir,
This video is, without a doubt, the finest demonstration of how to use a Lee Loader I have ever seen. Right to the point with no wasted time and information!
Started my reloading 40 years ago with a Lee Loader in 30-30. Have long since "graduated" to reloading with a press. But the Lee Loader loads ammo just as good, is practical and compact. And, as you so well demonstrate here, it ain't near as slow as people think!
Thanks for the reminder of long past, FONDLY remembered days!
coltperc 7 months ago 10
Years ago I bought a used Savage 10 in .223, and was quite fond of it. What I wasn't fond of was having to buy expensive factory ammo to get good groups with it. Even the $14/20 Fiocchi match stuff wasn't making great groups.
In all that shooting, though, I did accumulate a nice pile of quality brass, so I figured I'd get a Lee Classic, beam scale, and 69gr SMKs to reload some practice loads. With the ammunition I hammered together, I outshot even the best factory match loads I had tried.
AreThereNoMoreNames 7 months ago
I just ordered a classic lee reloader for 9mm. I am going to meditate on this video. And I am going to watch this video a few hundred times. I should be able to do it blindfold then, well not really, but I should be ready. Great set-up and fast, thank.
abbeyglencircle 7 months ago
Sir I believe you did it in 35 seconds. Nice demo. I have been reloading for about 15 years on single stage and progressive presses, but have always been interested in these Lee Loaders. Thanks for the Demo.
TheManFromAlaska 8 months ago
don't get how he whacked the primer in so hard, mine goes bang unless i tap very lightly
hairmonster12 8 months ago
@hairmonster12 I had that problem when i was starting, but I found that if there's anything at all on the seating anvil, it can transfer pressure to the primer. And be sure you're not using the decapping rod!
AreThereNoMoreNames 7 months ago
I just ordered one for a .308 winchester. Have there ever been any reported deaths/accidents while using this product?
raimundough 8 months ago
@raimundough It's possible to set off a primer every once in a great while, which may scare the crap out of you, but its fairly harmless unless you're pointing it right into your eye or something like an idiot. Other than that, if you follow the steps in order, there's just no way to have an accident with this or any other popular reloading systems.
When the bullet is seated, the bottom of the case rests on like a donut hole. So there's no pressure on the primer as the round becomes "live".
heysmithy 8 months ago 2
@heysmithy Thanks for replying. I hope the reloaded rounds feed well through my rifle
raimundough 8 months ago
@raimundough It will only feed well if you're using it with a single shot or bolt action rifle. Most reloading systems resize the whole case, but the Lee Loader only resizes the neck of the case. So the case remains "fire formed" to the inside of your rifle chamber. So you can only shoot the reloaded ammo from the rifle that fired the original round. And not if that rifle is tube fed or semi-auto, since those types of guns are made to cycle the ammo a little looser in the chamber.
heysmithy 8 months ago
HELL YEAH! I LOVE THE SIMPLICITY. A BULLET IN 40 SECONDS.
raimundough 8 months ago
that was faster than my progressive press. I must be doing something wrong
sonick808 9 months ago
This is a great way to reload if you are short on funds. I have produced some extremely accurate rounds with this method, I would highly recommend to anyone interested in this type of reloading.
shootrich 9 months ago
I own a set of lee classic loaders so I know how they work. Crimping the bullet at the end is only required for handgun rounds. He is obviously reloading rifle rounds, so as he resizes the neck; the neck is slightly sized down from the diameter of the bullet, and as a result when the bullet is seated at the end there is no crimping required, that is why with these loaders (for rifle rounds at least) you are required to use jacketed bullets.
shootrich 9 months ago
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shootrich 9 months ago
Holy shit, and he makes it look effortless too!!
oerllikon2 10 months ago
Sir, you are a reloading MACHINE! That was great. Thanks!
cptexas1 10 months ago
I like the way he says "Brand new round" at the end.
davidsquall351 11 months ago
Man that was QUick
davidsquall351 11 months ago
Just got one of these for my .30-06. So far it's my favorite way to reload. Once it's adjusted for bullet depth there's nothing to set up or change out. I did swap out the included powder dipper for a slightly bigger one that throws my preffered charge though. I love people's reactions when they watch me make rounds with a hammer.
voodoowraith 11 months ago
Reloading with the lee loader is an "lost art". People think it´s highly dangerous, "oldschool" and not as precice as with press. Guys at my school were highly impressed when I did a tutorial class of how to reload with the Lee Loader. We also reloaded similar ammo with Hornady press tool, and witnessed that there was no accuracy loss using the Lee Loader than the press. Actually we shot slightly better groups with only neck sized cartridges.
Morrimoo 11 months ago
correct me if im wrong, but don't you have to crimp it last? He left this out...
TheFeist1984 11 months ago
@TheFeist1984 he sized the neck just before he hammered in the bullet watch more closely.
TheTravelingbard 11 months ago
@TheTravelingbard Sizing the neck is not crimping it...You crimp the neck after the bullet is seated...this is the very last step.
TheFeist1984 11 months ago
correct me if im wrong, but don't you have to crimp it last? He left this out...
TheFeist1984 11 months ago
@TheFeist1984 he did crimp it, you are just a dumb ass.
FOXnewsAlien 10 months ago
what is dangerious is ,he bangs on the new primer .the shock of banging is not good i rather have a press fit no banging one day he will bang on this and bingo no head or eye presssing a primer in is best bar none and he has loose gun power laying open again not safe
merbenzgill 1 year ago
This has to be the coolest video on the Classic Lee Loader on YouTube today. Here is the man with the mind still showing us all how it is done.
Hunter09686 1 year ago
Um... aren't you supposed to measure the powder load before you just dump it in and seat the bullet?
FantasticBob7000 1 year ago
@FantasticBob7000
The dipper is the powder measure.
loasfast 1 year ago 10
@loasfast the problem with the scoops is that you cant precisely measure the amount of pouder because with those scoops they arnt always 100% acurate =)
thehuntergunwhisper 1 month ago
Fantastic!!!! Great!!!
chaltaro 1 year ago
This method of reloading is not as precise as conventional reloading presses. The powder charge is definitely not going to be consistent. Plus it is not as safe.
PainTrane01 1 year ago
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joeratti 1 year ago
@PainTrane01 Bullshit, you don't have a clue. This is how handloading started. At one time high priced guns came with a reloading set and bullet molds. As far as not consistent to this day Lee supplies all their die sets with a dipper calibrated for that cartridge.
klesmer 1 year ago
@PainTrane01 farty noise, it is perfectly precise for one caliber, if you level off the scoop it is the exact amount of powder every time.
Stizogm 1 year ago
Are you lubing the cases or is it fine not too? And if you are is the only way to get the lube off with a Tumbler?
ThePatriot0991 1 year ago
@ThePatriot0991
No lube needed on uncleaned cases.
Handgun cases work best with a touch of lube.
loasfast 1 year ago
@ThePatriot0991 Thanks for the info.
loasfast 1 year ago
how much cheaper is it to do this?
crf100person 1 year ago
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jb4700 1 year ago
I couldnt help it, I had to buy another Lee Loader for my good ol' 30-06 sprg. I have one for .308 win. Awesome kit. I actually detonated the primer once, but I didnt notice it before it started to smell like something was burning, checked the case and noticed the primer did blow up. :) Nothing dangerous loading with these tools.
Morrimoo 1 year ago
The only problem I've experienced with the classic loader[s] are defective cartridges due to the primer powder bouncing out of the primer cup, because I hammered too hard applying the crimp... a moderate 'tap' seems to do the job just fine....
xzqzq 1 year ago
acoop: Tks... I bought a Lee 'O' press used, on E-Bay, and some used dies, to keep costs down... between lead, pot, molds, and loaders, I have already spent several hundred dollars.... 308: I bet that you can get a decent crimp on the .454 with the .45 Lee die... I don't bother hammering the .38 or .44 brass into the die for resizing, since they are difficult to get out [ KISS], and chamber just fine in my revolvers w/o resizing...
xzqzq 1 year ago
I like my Lee Loaders in .357 & .44..... wish I could get them in 8mm Mauser and .300 Savage....It is very simple & easy.... now I go shooting largely to try my hand-loads.....
xzqzq 1 year ago
@xzqzq lee used to make custom lee loaders, not sure if they do still but might I sugest for the same amount of trouble that you could use the lee hand press and dies? Not much more expensive and not as limiting you can load and shoot just about anything with one and they don't take up as much room.
acoop101 1 year ago
where did you get that .can i get one at walmart or academy
bobiscool308 1 year ago
@bobiscool308
Gun Shop or on line.
loasfast 1 year ago
oh shit, i though reloading needed a bunch of tools and stuff, no idea its so easy! so are all lee loaders like that?
ihatemockingbirds 1 year ago
Great video! Have one on order for .45 colt and only wish they had one for my .454 casull. Again great video
308Remmy 1 year ago
These loaders are a great way for a beginner to learn basic handloading. I started out this way. It is a very slow process. Took me one hour to load 50 .357's so it depends on how much shooting a person wants and how much time you spend reloading this way. I strongly suggest no one try to speed load with this tool or any other means. Keep your powder away from the work area and BE CAREFULL with seating primers! Its too easy to accidentally detonate a primer inside that die! Everyone does it!
redmist1957 1 year ago
Lee Loaders are great. I had one in .357. I'm really frustrated that I can't find one ANYWHERE for 8mm Mauser, 7.7 Japanese, or 6.5 Japanese. These things are ideal for the odd calibers, but I only find them in the most common sizes.
UnkleMusket 1 year ago 2
@UnkleMusket Try Midway.com or Cabelas,com
loasfast 1 year ago
love this guy
joeratti 1 year ago
i thought you should weigh the powder to make sure its not to much
firewoodguy2009 1 year ago
@firewoodguy2009 No need to weigh the powed if you measure it by volume and keep the load 10% under rmaximum.
loasfast 1 year ago
I have no experience with reloading, but i would love to get one of these. Just one question though, how do you know exactly how much powder you are putting in the case? I thought the weight of the powder had to be very precise, but you just scoop it and throw it in.
RobDogOg 1 year ago
@RobDogOg Load data comes with the kit.
loasfast 1 year ago
@RobDogOg Also you can go to website of manufacture of gun power they have data listed there and down load it then print if you like
I find reloading is fun as much as shooting
otunca 1 year ago
Wow, thank you. It's so simple!
dunkel25 1 year ago
Seating the primer is easier than I thought it would be (no explosions...yet) but I`m getting crinkeled case neck lips when I seat the bullet, even after chamfering inside of neck. These are unusable. Some vids show use of lube (haven`t used any yet) and others must have older models with a flaring tool included - mine didn`t come w/one. Looks like Lee is using boat tails, my 30-30`s are flat w/full copper on the bottom, lead maybe would shave instead of crushing the lip.
kromdo1 1 year ago
@kromdo1
Call or Email Lee Precision with details of your problem.
It sound like you may have the wrong decapping base.
loasfast 1 year ago
Amazing, gentleman...
marcelododox 1 year ago
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fancypicker 1 year ago
I recently bought one in .270 and love it.
Amazing little tool. I've never reloaded before and the Lee loader made it very simple for a beginner like me to get into reloading. I also bought and recommend the Lee auto prime. This loader sure tightened my groups up. Thank you Mr. Lee!
fancypicker 1 year ago
just tried my first batch of reloaded rounds with this reloader, and the results are already looking great. was able to tighten up my groups. looking forward to the next batch. this works great for anyone who wants to start reloading.
fadingabel7 1 year ago
I've got one in 308w and one in 6.5x55 Sweed . There great to use , very easy . I measure my powder with an electronic scale rather than use the scoop . Great results and very accurate ammunition . There a great bit of gear .
wamby2260 1 year ago
I recently bought the Lee Loader for my .308 win, absolutely brilliant set!
Morrimoo 1 year ago
The only thing i would disagree on is the powder scoop, not that its unsafe, just that i prefer to know what exactly the load is as to modify the load in the future.
Crich775 1 year ago
these things are great ive got 8 of them in various calibers and a few of them i get better accuracy with the lee loader than with my press.
craveman85 1 year ago
I started with one of these when I was 17. My dad thought I was crazy. In truth the design is utterly safe and ingenious. I still load with mostly classic loaders in an apartment complex. The epihphany of the stone paver makes discrete reloading possible. I use an auto prime tool though - picks up the speed of your reloading and gives peace of mind that it's harder to screw up and blow a primer.
craigdge 1 year ago
Very nice, i wonder can pistol ammo be reloaded the same way w/o problems?
TheDewey05 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid I just bought one
Hissatsu5 1 year ago
I think I might get one
Hissatsu5 1 year ago
cool!!! I'm new to this kind of stuff. Do you have to crimp the bullet too or no? Crimp the bullet to the case?
bmetstud 1 year ago
If you ever look at one closely, you'll see if you follow the directions about the worst that could happen is you pop a primer when seating it. Not a big deal since there no power or anything in it. Once the case is charged, the primer is protected the whole time. IIRC, ammo reloaded with one of these held the world record for like 7 years. It's a good, cheap, completely portable system.
ep697 1 year ago
DAMN THATS OLD FASHIONED!
TheMisfit621 1 year ago
I reloaded .303 British with this kit for years. You can make excellent cartridges with this. Very safe, the odd time a primer would go off, but thats before the powder goes in and the primer seating tool is in anyways. Did make me jump tho.
henerymag 1 year ago
wow thats crazy! nice work!
hiroyoshi86 1 year ago
It's basically that easy,for real. The only issue that may arise is that after a few reloads the brass can become elongated and may need to be trimmed for length.
littlebiscuits 1 year ago
@littlebiscuits I used to trim them everytime anyways, sometimes they would need it sometimes not. The .303 Brit case's don't last long because of the large headspace, but thats why they didn't jam in the mud of WW 1, most of the time.
henerymag 1 year ago
Sweet!
dlvmark 1 year ago
I've been loading a long time but there is something about hammers and charged cartages that makes me uncomfortable.
sirhcskoorb 1 year ago
@sirhcskoorb I was thinkin the same thing!!
paraglidermx 1 year ago
damn ur good is this lee himself and if u can plz give me a link on where to get one of these for 20 gauge ty
hopecamel 1 year ago
A craftsman will always make it look easy, but damn that is quick.
Very happy I've got a .22 hornet kit on order. I'm going to have to practice some I think.
smaragadine 1 year ago
Is this Richard Lee? I'm reading his 2nd edition now and I can't wait to get started reloading.
boogerchamp 1 year ago
Dangerious
tes1900 1 year ago
Oh Fuck Off ! How is it "Dangerous" ? Maybe because you do not know how it works ? Fucking dumb trolls . This guy in the video is a genius for coming up with this . I'm sure he had people who didn't know what they were talking about telling him "Oh that's dangerous" too .I'm glad he didn't listen to them or we wouldn't have the reloading tech we have today .
jonmorry333 1 year ago 18
@jonmorry333 It may not be the most accurate peice of equipment out there and not for the guy that builds "match" loads, but it works. You got limitted space and don't mind the short comings of volume only loading this is a great peice of equiment. I own one for my .30-30 and I have an old 12 gauge shot gun reloader from Lee that works on the same principle.
shaunpisk 6 months ago
@tes1900
1. LEARN TO SPELL
2.hes a pro he knows what he is doing.
Spadez9559 1 year ago
@tes1900 Why?
jamespfearn 1 year ago
Is that a special type of hammer?
dantereyes81 1 year ago
@dantereyes81
Rubber hammer (technically plastic tip). This viewer has used them for years. You'll want it because plastic (rubber) does not cause sparks.
wilhelm2ss 1 year ago
if the primer went off it wouldn't be a big deal, especially if you are wearing eye protection. It's an option to wear hearing protection also.
b2mic1 2 years ago
@b2mic1 Yeah,the part that gives me the Hmmmmmsss...is driving the bullet in w/hammer after primer and charge??
paraglidermx 1 year ago
I'm not sure about the driving seating the primer with a hammer . . .
captainpegs07 2 years ago
@captainpegs07 i hear if you hit it too hard it will pop but you can do it safely
phil656565 1 year ago
@phil656565 yeah, I'm sure he's been doing it way for quite some time :)
captainpegs07 1 year ago
@captainpegs07 nah i bet he just learned, lol, nah hes lightning fast
phil656565 1 year ago
i watch this vid like 10x in a row, everyday, other vids have guys taking 4 min plus each round and they wack the bullet over and over, I love how this guy shows you the step by step on how to do it fast with out the "beating of a dead horse", I will watch this vid till I am just as fast as him...
freesoulvw 2 years ago 7
@freesoulvw He "invented" that loader. Of course he can do it that fast. Also, it's hard to do a bullet in under four minutes when you're explaining and showing how the loader works
chupanibre999 11 months ago
Nice product for a small reloading set up. Most of the nay sayers are the rookies who go out and spend 600 setting up a progressive system. The lee loader will give you consistency and thrift.....that is what reloading is all about. Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brycro 2 years ago
Let me first say, Mr. Lee knows his business well. For all of you who think he's not taking enough care with measurement and soforth. Remember, This is a video that shows how one could load a round in 40 seconds but is not implying one should do their loading in this way. I think the Lee loader is a great product. It really does do a great job. This should be purchased and used by someone who really wants to get started. The lee company has great products and very good people.
mindeloman 2 years ago
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for the love of god do not buy a lee loader these shouldnt even be allowed for sale
colemickelron 2 years ago
why? what do you know that others don't?
italianppf2 2 years ago
well...........waiting for a reason why we shouldn`t buy one
walyll0 2 years ago
i have used these for years with no problem
what's the problem you had with it?
GyroscopesAndInfared 2 years ago
this video just convinced me i need one of these
gfpd2722 2 years ago
i am trying to get a lee reloader on e-bay right now i like to reload shells
walyll0 2 years ago
Holy cow this guys fast. Very cool reloading equipment. Brings new meaning to "Keep in simple".
bcoverss 2 years ago
Wow, that's old school. I think I'll get one of those as a novelty item.
guero1055 2 years ago
Wow he is fast. I have the 9mm version and it takes a LOT of force to resize the case.
b0mccue 2 years ago
Wow...he's done that just a few times (LOL). I'll stick to my Lee Turret press.
TangoDownProduction 2 years ago
wow, nice work, quickest I've seen.
flamedrag18 2 years ago
Less than 0.1 of a grain. What do you think is inside an expensive powder measure (in some form or another)?
EulogyAdd 2 years ago
Im not disputing the equipment, but Mr. Lee here is doing it so quickly that it doesn't seem like he is actually keeping a close eye on it
BigCockvanHugenDong 2 years ago
So long as you carefully sort out beforehand (a) which powder you're using, (b) how much of it the scoop you choose will pick up and (c) that you've got the appropriate projectiles ready to put on top, it should be almost impossible to get into trouble. This is the "fail-safe" doctrine - whatever you do, it's still safe.
jsm666 2 years ago
This would be good to carry in a packpack with a little poweder,primers and bullets if you get in a bad situation and run out of ammo.
These would make great Christmas gifts for anyone who's interested in guns or reloading.
briancraig81 2 years ago
ok ok...so i just buy the small red box (loader) for a 40 sw...what about the other tools he has in the picture...the little thing the bull sits in , and the tool he used to seat the bullet
565Customz 2 years ago
That all comes with the kit.
oddball200889 2 years ago
the kit comes with everything but sadly there is no .40 s&w kit
Ryan56765 2 years ago
thats all included with the loader.. all you would need is powder, primer, and bullets
megadeth22885 2 years ago
everything except the hammer are included in the kit, the hammer should be either rubber or plastic so you don't damage anything.
flamedrag18 2 years ago
pero mira que buena que esta la porqueria, para tenerla ensima
diegomartingross 2 years ago
Im trying to find one for 300 Win Mag. I cant find it anywhere. Anyone that has one, I'll buy from you.
deepwater1974 2 years ago
you live in deepwater,mo? i used to live there!
101heaters101 2 years ago
what would be best for a bigginer loader
airsoftfreak11 2 years ago
if you are loading pistol or .223 i'd get the lee pro 1000
phamax111 2 years ago
this is better for the individual loader who doesn't want to pay a fortune for a reloading kit, $20-$30 for the lee loader compared to $100-$200 for a press kit.
flamedrag18 2 years ago
From the man himself! I highly doubt Mr. Lee loads this way for his own loads. I'm sure this was just an example of how fast his basic loader can function. But, if you know your brass and supplies well, there's no reason you couldn't crank out 1 (quality) round every 1.5 min.
mindeloman 2 years ago
These used to be the most popular choice for reloading before the progressive reloaders became big.
ghangiskuhn 2 years ago
I've had various Lee loaders for years, they work. Most of mine are for pistols, but I have one for 223 that works great.
Ammo08 2 years ago
ROFL.. .. Im pretty sure Richard Lee knows what he is doing. and knows how much powder he is scooping. After all.. he DESIGNED this famous loader.
heeeeeeyjay 2 years ago 3
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Wow, that is a little scary. I new a guy who reloaded this way, and all I can say is that he is very lucky. Without a scale, there is no way of knowing how much powder you are loading. In my opinion you should learn to reload correctly our just don't do it.
2Dandersen 2 years ago
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Yeah i would not put that into my gun first i thought the primer was going to exploded when he as hitting it and then when he added the powder measure wow well maybe it works for him but not for this canuck
rambo20122 2 years ago
hmm.. this guy makes it easy enough for me to buy one of these for like $20 when i buy my next revolver (44 magnum)
megadeth22885 2 years ago
"Ready to rock, in about 40sec" LOL
Jammieg001 2 years ago
Thanks Mr. Lee!
AldoSchmedack 2 years ago
a scoop full is aprox minimum load for given caliber so heaping scoop is safe.
Minimum case streatch due to only neck sizing so 5+ firings before needing to trim.
Eloquent engineering. Is that old man Lee?
WJQ1960 2 years ago 7
Yes
AldoSchmedack 2 years ago
@WJQ1960 Depends on what grain bullet and powder ur using... all diff.charges...
paraglidermx 1 year ago
@WJQ1960 this im sure is gonna be a retarded question but can you trim the cases with a standard tube cutter or is there a special tool. im trying to save as much money as possible... hence the reloading and the 25$ kit lol
fordfan09 1 year ago
is this available in 9mm makarov ??
googleme280 2 years ago
i doubt that it was precise because ou didnt measure tepowder charge. and you didnt measure the length of the cartridgewith calipers.
PainTrane01 2 years ago
the scoop is the powder measure and if you're careful it will do the job fine. Also, the cartridge is forced to be a certain length by the whole resizing and bullet seating process. Measuring with callipers is something you might do now and then to check the batch is still the same length but once the dies are set up you should be good to go for a bit and measure a few of the cartridges later.
grannman 2 years ago
only need to measure the case if you don't know where it came from. I'm sure after some history loading for a particular gun, you would know how many firings your brass can take before needing trimming.
M733 2 years ago
My only concern before purchasing this is setting off primers when hammering them in. How frequently does this happen and is it something that can be completely avoided with proper technique?
TheCaptainofSauce 2 years ago
I've reloaded 200+ rounds with mine for 7.62x54r and have only had one primer go off and that was because I didn't have the primer seated in the spring loaded chamber completly so I was hammering the cartrage I was trying to prime down onto the edge of the primer.
If you are really concerned about this a hand priming tool can be had for fairly cheap and it removes this problem comlpetly.
acoop101 2 years ago
anybody know if Lee makes a two prong deprimer for Berdan primers?
tomterahedrob 2 years ago
I started reloading with a $15 used Lee Loader when I was 18. I reloaded for my .30-30 Marlin 336C. I now use an RCBS Rock Chucker for most of my reloading.
I still reload for 303 British on a Lee loader in fact, albeit I use an auto prime tool.
One thing I want to add is that the other side of the loader tool can be used to apply a roll crimp to the bullet. This can be useful to prevent bullets from creeping in or out of the shell casing in a magazine.
craigdge 2 years ago
I am asking myself if I should buy only this little kit or a the deluxe press
ViperQc 2 years ago
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If you want to reload, buy a real setup. You don't need anything fancy and good deals are out there if you look around. At minimum, you need a good reloading manual, (Lyman is great), a caliper, and a scale. I would never recommend reloading anything w/out getting these things first. RCBS makes a little press called the Partner that is awesome for a beginner. Stay safe and good shooting.
2Dandersen 2 years ago
Thanks for making this video Sir...I always wondered how you used one of those little Loader kits. Seems like a handy thing to have laying around at Hunting Camp!
Iraqveteran8888 2 years ago
I'm going to call you old timer if you don't mind. Great video, great technique. I noticed you "double dipped" your powder scooper which is a no no as it isn't as accurate as just pushing it once thru. I realize you were loading for speed and you did a very good job. I use the same for my .303 British. Makes much better ammo than factory for sure and much cheaper.
kw351slr 2 years ago
the man shown made the damn scoop. If he wants he double dip with it, he gets to double dip with it. The proper use of the LEE loader should be up to mister LEE not you.
M733 2 years ago 3
nice
flamedrag18 2 years ago
I admire how fast & smooth you do it. I've been using a piece of wood as base. Yours seem to be foam on wood? Thanks.
spitgalore 2 years ago
The loading surface is steel on 1/4 inch foam.
An excellent surface is a a 39 cent paver brick, available at a building supply store. Use a foam pad under the brick. A piece of wood on top center of the paver prevents damage to the Lee Loader.
loasfast 2 years ago