05/08/2011... nothing happened... lie still stands... genocidal military still in power... and now a 'super congress' has changed america, for worse...
Free fall is not an acceleration or a velocity or a speed it is a state caused by an acceleration due to mass a property of all known matter (with the possible exception of the electromagnetic spectrum whatever that is think a photon of light) plz figure it out people and stop quibbling over semantics.
And nist practically admitted that they were bullshitting u. Well u kinda have to pass physics101 to have an understanding of the gravity(lol) of the bullshit they were spewing- check out the links i have so GENEROUSLY provided
Where is the action guys. It is apparent that AJ is just out to report on this and has no intention of acting at all. @swu880 The NYPD predisted the event so good that they counted down ahead of the collapse, what? Do they have psychics working there?
You & ur clinging irrational logic have been debunked long ago by real people, real testimonies & real analysis. explosions have been fuckin heard god damnit! witnesses all report it (the real witnesses) just ask the janitor william rodriguez. We have video evidence of sounds of explosions, documented by chandler & also another one
@swu880 William Rodriguez wasn't at WTC 7! Please do some research! Chandler could only find some low frequency rumbling, not the minimum of 130 - 140 db detonation charges that would be required to dislodge the steel columns. No detonation flashes, no trace of explosives in the seismic record, no detritus of explosive devices, no sign of any demo crews in a building used 24/7. And the fire department reported the instability of WTC 7 and predicted its collapse. Yeah, I'm sure they were lying.
I think the reason conspiracy believers focus so much on the 2.25 second free fall is that they have no physical, visual, auditory, or seismic evidence of explosives.
No evidence of any demo crews planting explosives in a building used 24/7.
No evidence of detonators, det chord, or explosive fragments found in the rubble.
So the question is what kind of mechanism is available to remove all the support in 8+ stories? cuz none of the buildings energy was available to do ANY work at all- for over 2.5 seconds! The entire building not just 1 small section- no. THE WHOLE width of the building, had an almost even acceleration. And went into freefall for about 2.5 seconds! ACCELERATION not velocity- for 2.5 seconds! wat mechanism took out all the resistance & support? wat fire? get real!
freefall is an acceleration & a state of motion where all of an object's energy- ALL of its energy is converted into gravitational energy. NONE of its energy is available to do anything else- no crushin no bending no dancing no jumping! Moreover remember freefall is instantaneous- not gradual! When an apple sits on a table, it is supported & not at freefall. When the table is instantly removed, the apple goes IMMEDIATELY into freefall acceleration- no time delay its immediate
whether u went 90mph or not! The fact u went 90mph or not is INDEPENDANT- that means has nothing to do with the avg velocity! Average velocity is pretty useless especially when uniformity is in question. Average acceleration is EXTREMELY useless since no one gives a damn about such an arbitrary value- it dont tell me what forces were at work at each & every moment. only the instantaneous acceleration can tell me how much force was at work at any given point of time- any INSTANT- instantaneous
Freefall is an acceleration NOT A FUCKING TIME NOR VELOCITY! it is not an avg! it is instantaneous. ie What is the exact acceleration of an object a time t NOT what is the 'overall avg' velocity, accel, etc
AVERAGES are USELESS! They are arbitrary1 what the fuck does an average tell u about the instantaneous changes of motion? does an average velocity tell you what ur velocity was at any given point of time? NO! just cuz ur "trip was 10miles long & lasted an hour" does not mean whether u went
newton's law of conservation says that if an energy is used to do work, it is not available for anything else. Thus, with F=ma we see how if an object's energy is converted into gravitational energy, it is not available to be converted into kinetic energy. why? well energy is finite & limited! it is conserved! Thus if the energy was to be converted into kinetic energy to do work, we would see a deceleration! do u even know wat deceleration vs acceleration is? lol
This is essentially what you are trying to argue. poetryhound: "officer, i didn't go 90mph, my trip was 10 miles long, it took me an hour long to get there. how is it that i went 90mph?" lol
And you are also essentially trying to DEFY the laws of physics here. Freefall if u looked it up means that an object has how much resistance below it? none! can it be achieved if there is resistance below it? no!
@swu880 actuaily air causes resistance as well as any other type of friction. "Freefall if u looked it up means that an object has how much resistance below it? none! can it be achieved if there is resistance below it? no!" u do kinda sound like an idiot. A skydiver has resistance acting on the surface of his/her person. And is considered to be in "a freefall state" don't believe everything you read in books. I don't understand how this didn't occur to you unless you really have huge holes...
freefall is a fact. the govt destroying evidence is a fact. the govt(epa) which is a branch of the whitehouse lying about the air quality & environment of ground zero is a fact. the hundreds & thousands of first responders who died & got sick from the toxins in the air as a result of the lie is a fact. the govt sponsored agency(nist) which is a branch of the whitehouse humiliating itself on public television during the review of its 9/11 report is a fact- u only need to utube it to find out
dont u dare try to comment when u dont even know what freefall means or u lack even the basic understanding of high school physics. It aint that hard to learn decent physics fundamentals- hell u could even find pretty good videos on basic physics concepts right here on youtube. or use google. or read a textbook!
ie It is a FACT wtc 7 dropped at freefall acceleration for an extended period of time- there is no viable explanation for this unless an outside force destroyed the building
This guy is engaging in pure fruitcakery. The 911 conspiracy cult has rapidly declined. Hits on 911 kookspriacy web sites have plummeted from their 2006 highs, especially after Bush left office. Attendance at kookspiracy events has likewise plummeted. There were only about 100 people who showed up at last year's widely advertised Sept 11 rally in Manhattan. These various 911 theories are the same thing as moon landing denial and belief in alien abduction.
hey gravity is a theory- but with more & more repetetive tests & analysis, the tests move closer to reality. Theories are based on facts so when facts accumulate, the theories themselves become substantial. not to mention the 'official theory' is itself a 'conspiracy theory' that contradicts & ignores the facts of the day.
The mainstream version is more of a hypothesis than a theory. Hypotheses are often established to explain plane crashes and other disasters. Sometimes there are competing hypotheses and you go with the best one. There's not enough evidence to support any one of the myriad competing 911 hypotheses. That's why there are so many of them.
lol- uh wtc7 went into freefall acceleration for 2.5 seconds. That is FACT. no viable mechanism for such a fall is given by official theory. lol moreover- 19 hijackers only? yeah right! u need far more people in much more powerful positions to pull this stuff off. 19 people with a boxcutter manage to bypass all the air defense systems & manage to down 3 buildings by crashin into 2
just look @ the gulf of tonkin incident- 58,000 people killed for nothing- going to war on false pretenses, slaughtering millions of vietnamese for NO reason at all. Except to further increase control & maintain a drug cartel- yes a drug cartel. US used vietnam to supply drugs & such durin those years. u think they dont have the guts to pull off another false flag attack?
btw- the US govt already disclaimed any innocence it may have in the incident by committing a federal crime- IT THREW AWAY ALMOST ALL THE EVIDENCE! That spells one thing: MAJOR COVERUP- its quite literally the second pearl harbor
And if u had studied any real history, u would realize that US was involved quite deeply in the attacks of pearl harbor
david chandler has already shattered any govt credibility- particularly those of nist. just watch the vid & see nist the govt agency of the WHITEHOUSE humiliate itself- lol they dont even understand the fundamental difference between acceleration & velocity(ie. gravity aint a velocity nor time- its an acceleration)
@swu880 The evidence was thrown out after it was inspected. There were thousand of tons of debris. It was meticulously sifted at Fresh Kills. That's how they recovered the human fragments. Engineers from ASCE & SEAoNY inspected as much steel as they wanted before it was disposed of.
I've seen the Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory stuff before. It's on the level of moon landing denial or Roswell UFOs.
@swu880 The 2.25 seconds constituted just 15% of the collapse time. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
The collapse started out slower than free fall, then there was the 2.25 free fall period, and then it transitioned to slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
BTW, acting incredulous doesn't make you right. The hijackers prepared & practiced for months beforehand.
No object can EVER achieve freefall acceleration for ANY period of time unless there is absolutely NO resistance supporting it. I would love for you to prove this otherwise- hell all the scientists & physicists would love for you to prove this otherwise- But if u actually read a physics textbook & learn some damn physics, learn what are newton's laws & the importance of freefall, u would find out how foolish ur comments are an attempt to downplay such a significent aspect of the crime
no mechanism proposed by nist or the official bullshit theory allows for freefall to occur. not fire, not some bogus magic, not some bs random falling debris, etc- the ONLY way to achieve the instantaneous continuous smooth carefully timed decent as seen in those videos of wtc7 & its freefall is through use of explosive energies- as explosives are very instantaneous & very malleable.
before you comment, maybe you ought to read a damn physics book & at least pass high school physics. When you can identify the difference between the concepts of velocity, acceleration, distance, time & instantaneous vs average, then u can come back to talk. or else you yourself lack any credibility as u have shown to lack any real analytical scientific skill or reasoning
i would bet u neither understand the significance nor could u even identify newton's laws of thermal dynamics nor even those of basic motion. Do you even know what gravity is & what is freefall? if u have passed high school physics, u ought have all this basic background knowledge already.
Or else your statements are as ludicrous & foolish as those of nist's:
ps- it is a crime to scrap any evidence- and maybe you ought to research a bit before you make any statements(google is ur friend). Much if not all of the evidence was scrapped long before any govt investigation really took place- MONTHS at least before nist even launched its investigation
hell the fact that the EPA lied about 9/11- merely a few days after the disaster, it said the air is "safe to breathe". And hundreds & thousands of workers, first responders & people
all became severely ill from the exposure to toxic & airborne chemicals & toxins. But the steel & debris was all quickly hauled away- melted down, thrown out
if u have ever watched a god damn csi show or even read a GOOD detective novel or even really studied forensics, u would realize the basic IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. hence its a crime to violate or tamper with a crime scene- & is not 9/11 the biggest crime scene in america? yet evidence was quickly brushed off & thrown away
@swu880 You forgot to answer my questions. Here they are again:
The 2.25 seconds constituted just 15% of the collapse time of WTC 7. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
The collapse of WTC 7 started out slower than free fall, then there was a 2.25 second free fall period, and then it transitioned back to slower than free fall again. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
wow- like i said u really dont understand how to measure freefall AT ALL! freefall is an acceleration. it is not a time, it is NOT a velocity. And it is the instantaneous acceleration which determines the presence of freefall NOT a useless avg value which is very arbitrary!
What is freefall? go open a damn textbook before you speak! come back when u at least have a understanding of these basic concepts! Velocity, time, distance, displacement, acceleration, instantaneous vs avg
chandler has already busted ur poor methodology & misconceptions. see u & nist keep on using the same irrational & fraudulent argument- like i said, you are trying to argue urself out of a 90mph speeding ticket by saying, 'your honor, i didnt go 90mph, my trip was 10 miles and it took me an hour long to travel"
Tell me what is the problem with this statement? if you ask any physics professor not associated with nist or even ask a cop, u will see the problem
geez u dont even know what the hell freefall is. nor do you even know what is velocity, speed, distance, time, acceleration- lolol- u are officially as lame as nist if u cant even figure it out- google is ur friend
And by ur statements, its obvious u dont have the slightest clue as to how u can measure force, measure distance, velocity & acceleration. There are so many ways of acquiring such data- especially when u have video evidence- that is plenty sufficient for gatherin info.
But u can NOT destroy a crime scene! And doing so, in this situation would constitute one thing- a cover up. why else would u destroy the evidence? huh? why would u melt the steel then ship it to china when it is CRUCIAL evidence connected to one of the worst crime in america?
you clingers clearly lack any real analytical skills at all. hell i doubt u even took high school phyics!
@swu880 So for the third time, according to NIST, the period of free fall acceleration was just 2.25 seconds or 15% of the total period of collapse. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition. Since you don't know the answer, just say so.
Sort of correct, but it is certainly possible to measure the time period during which free fall acceleration is occurring. NIST measured it at 2.25 even though incorrectly state that it cannot be measured.
How ironic that it turns out to be YOU that needs to go open a textbook!
wrong- u measure an acceleration according to acceleration! u do NOT compare acceleration with any sort of arbitrary time duration! if u knew wat acceleration was, u would see why its foolish to do so- accel = change of distance / time^2 and moreover theres a key difference betweeen instantaneous & avg- do u know what it is?
its a matter of vital importance- the instantaneous is important the average is useless & ARBITRARY just as the 'start & end' are made to be arbitrary. But regardless of start & end times, the instantaneous motion of the building remains in clear view- we can measure the INSTANTANEOUS velocity, instantaneous acceleration & we can compare it to G! it is all in plain view. And the qustion of freefall is NOT a question of averages- please open a FUCKING physics textbook! read newtons laws
understand those laws. Energy is finite & limited! this is the law of conservation.
go look up the fuckin definition of freefall. Can an object be in freefall if it's energy is resisting or crushing or smashin another object? lol can it even smash, crush & pulverize another object without decelerating & without the presence of outside force? When a hammer impacts a nail, does it not decelerate without the presence of outside force?
So WHATis the mechanism that can destroy all 40 some columns across the whole width of the building in such a precise manner so as to bring about an even freefall collapse? how th fuck can you achieve freefall if u have resistance below an object?
see u clingers are essentially trying to prove a contradiction using very faulty reasoning. You are essentially saying if an object at time t0 with 10newton of force were to convert all its force into gravitational energy, the same 10newtons are available to crush any resistance below it. 10 = 20 in your minds. You are tryin to defy both the laws of thermal dynamics & the laws of motion & energy conservation
@swu880 Absolutely swu. There are way too many anomolies re: 9/11 A new new investigation therefore is imperative. I only hope we begin sometime soon, while the key traitors are still alive.
"the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions."
If you disagree with the investigators, I don't care. They have expertise & credibility. You don't.
lol u seriously dont even know basic physics. sigh- go to high school take a god damn physics class already. your methodology & understnanding is quite poor. YOU DO NOT MEASURE FREEFALL USING AN ARBITRARY AVG BASED ON AN ARBITRARY START AND END POINT! freefall is a acceleration of an object at a specific instant! go pass physics then come back to talk
btw- the 130 db is an ARBITRARY made up value which holds no real meaning & no real grounds! the nist
You said no explosions were heard in any of the building yet the very testimony of the janitor rodriguez stoutly debunks any such claim. The cure for willfull ignorance is DEATH- if u continue down that road of ignorance & irrationality, u will not find anything there.
flashes were reported to be seen, explosions heard & felt- over hundred firefighters alone heard & noted explosions! yet only 1 or like 2 support the official bullshit
nist haphazardly pooped out an arbitrary 130db sound level after making NUMEROUS false assumptions. 1) it first assumed that rdx or a type of c4 which has a high concussion rating, could be the ONLY kind of explosive present 2) it neglected or ignored any possibility for sound interference & dampening that may occur. ie other sound interference, other objects muffling sounds, cars, buildings in way, a ton of people chatterin away, etc- all these factors were neglected in the spontaneou
arbitrary production of a 130db sound level. Hell, what is worse is 3) nist neglected or more like THREW OUT the national fire inspection manual which is a standard for inspecting fire damage & any building collapse. Read the fucking national fire inspection standards. aint that ironic- the "National institute of standards & technology" never abided by the national standard for fire inspection.
The very national standards for fire inspection defined what an explosion is & sound is not a requisite component of an explosion. However, an explosive sound is indicative of an explosion. That means, u can have an explosion with little to no sound- or like no one necessarily "hears" it. But you can not have an explosive sound without the presence of an explosive
hell, 99% of the time(still lookin for that 1%), when govt bureaucraps make excuses, u know they are bullshitting, when they make promises, u know they tend to deceive you. And yet u wish to BELIEVE all their bullshit? lol shows how little ur analytical skills are.
@swu880 I haven't seen a post from PoetryHound for over 3-1/2 years. Maybe, he/she has been using other logons. I see that he/she is still pushing the same crap.
lol there is no such thing as a "3 stage collapse" as nist is tryin to make. that aint how it works one bit. freefall is instantaneous- please look up these damn concepts & learn it before you speak. im not gonna teach it to u- ill only laugh at u if u cant do it urself. ignorance aint a virtue
@swu880 "there is no such thing as a 3stage collapse"
Who should we believe about this - people with the requisite expertise and experience on the subject or . . . you. Thanks, but I'll stick with the folks who know what they're talking about. The truth is that the free fall acceleration took place very briefly and happened between two periods where the building collapse encountered resistance. So the questions remains, are those conditions typical of a controlled demolition? You don't know.
@swu880 You forgot to answer my questions. Here they are again:
The 2.25 seconds constituted just 15% of the collapse time of WTC 7. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
The collapse of WTC 7 started out slower than free fall, then there was the 2.25 free fall period, and then it transitioned to slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
WTC7 puzzled me as well... until I discovered that the building was fully involved. The building was ultimately on fire on all 47 floors. "Fully involved." Plus, the bottom 10 floors had been scooped out to the depth of about 20% by the tower debris. It was leaning and groaning for some time before collapse. It was very apparent to the firefighters that the building wasn't going to stay standing, so they pulled out to let it implode.
@DaveTheTurd "It was LEANING and groaning for some time before collapse."
Leaning? And then fell straight down? If it WAS leaning, then that suggests weakening at that area - and that's the way it would fall, not perfectly straight down.
alex jones is a quack and an idiot, he is not to be trusted - anyone should consider that the 911 was an inside job but using Alex Jones as a reference will not help, as he is a quacktard to the fullest extent
These elitist /bankers/globalists will all be held accountable, maybe not here on earth but when they meet their maker ,they wont be a bail out big enough to save their asses, no cronies to help em ,no favors or connections...I will feel no pity for them
@wesleypipesbk It is times like this that I wish I was not an atheist. Knowing these bastards will all end up in hell for all of eternity is almost enough of a reason for me to become a believer.
It may be the Washington Times way of telling the Corporate Elites, Bankers and Globalists (the Obama Administration) to make damn sure their newspaper gets bail-out money because of the demise of large newspapers.
You have to wonder what is going on when a government ran newspaper reports something like this.There is an ulterior motive here,bet your house on it.Could it be any coincidence that the 9/11 trial of KSM is coming up soon?Maybe Obama wants blame put on Bush so that his Muslim friend can go free.Just a thought.
Maybe the Washington Times are discreetly telling the planners of 9/11, those in congress and the pentagon, not to mess up so spectacularly in their next terrorist plans.
You`re not here to tell the truth Alex. You're here to tell part of the truth. If you were here to tell the truth you'd be covering Israel's brutalization of the Palestinians. You wouldn't utter falsehoods in your video TerrorStorm eg Gladio took place in Asia, Latin America, and the Mid-East. You'd be focusing on Zionist control of the media.
Control of the media matters Alex. It's been a problem for our movement. We would have made a lot more headway if the media weren't under control of interests hostile to us, namely Zionists.
And while we're discussing Zionist control of the media Alex, maybe we should be asking why Zionists are hostile to our movement. Why are they hostile to 9/11 Truth?
research Pearl Harbor and events preceding that event.Research the cause of ww1 and the cause of all the wars we have been in.You will be surprised at what you find.
seems to me the ancient Mayans were right in saying 2012 is the end of a dark age & the begining of an age of enlightenment,more & more of us are waking up as every day passes to our criminal leaders,the most powerful people in our world today could end all poverty & illness in our world,the wars could end,we could live in peace & harmony with free clean energy if they really wanted us too,but quite obviously they want to keep the wars, the suffering going on we must ask WHY?..namaste
if we were un American we would not never question what the government does...going against the Constitution of the United States. As an American I would never do this... I question all atrocities this government does...including their involvement with 9/11!
I dont listen to Alex Jones but this is some great information! ;)
osama binladin will never be capured/ simply because the war on terror would be over and the public will spport will decrease
bush is a puppet in 911 circle of power, the people that run the world and possibly commited 911 are banking coporation, they are untocable and will continue to insalve contries via debt. debt trough war, IMF, interest
05/08/2011... nothing happened... lie still stands... genocidal military still in power... and now a 'super congress' has changed america, for worse...
thepofmeister 6 months ago
Free fall is not an acceleration or a velocity or a speed it is a state caused by an acceleration due to mass a property of all known matter (with the possible exception of the electromagnetic spectrum whatever that is think a photon of light) plz figure it out people and stop quibbling over semantics.
UND1LARA1KHAR 8 months ago
@UND1LARA1KHAR o and neutrinos always forget about those they conceivably exist in our universe and have negligible mass.
UND1LARA1KHAR 8 months ago
And nist practically admitted that they were bullshitting u. Well u kinda have to pass physics101 to have an understanding of the gravity(lol) of the bullshit they were spewing- check out the links i have so GENEROUSLY provided
swu880 1 year ago
Where is the action guys. It is apparent that AJ is just out to report on this and has no intention of acting at all. @swu880 The NYPD predisted the event so good that they counted down ahead of the collapse, what? Do they have psychics working there?
sharkattack1313 1 year ago
@sharkattack1313
please go watch the vid i have linked. the officials story is total bullshit- it defies the very laws of physics
swu880 1 year ago
/watch?v=kxGB2YoGV-I&feature=related
swu880 1 year ago
Freefall is an instantaneous thing- NOT A FUCKING AVERAGE. do u even know what is the difference between an avg vs instantaneous?
swu880 1 year ago
You & ur clinging irrational logic have been debunked long ago by real people, real testimonies & real analysis. explosions have been fuckin heard god damnit! witnesses all report it (the real witnesses) just ask the janitor william rodriguez. We have video evidence of sounds of explosions, documented by chandler & also another one
/watch?v=hErjUU_YN2s&p=F5D79EB5A887394E&index=6&playnext=2
/watch?v=ip2cy-mKBr0
yeah im sure all the witnesses were lying.... & somehow physics dont apply that day
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 William Rodriguez wasn't at WTC 7! Please do some research! Chandler could only find some low frequency rumbling, not the minimum of 130 - 140 db detonation charges that would be required to dislodge the steel columns. No detonation flashes, no trace of explosives in the seismic record, no detritus of explosive devices, no sign of any demo crews in a building used 24/7. And the fire department reported the instability of WTC 7 and predicted its collapse. Yeah, I'm sure they were lying.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
I think the reason conspiracy believers focus so much on the 2.25 second free fall is that they have no physical, visual, auditory, or seismic evidence of explosives.
No evidence of any demo crews planting explosives in a building used 24/7.
No evidence of detonators, det chord, or explosive fragments found in the rubble.
No detonation series heard at time of collapse.
No det flashes seen at time of collapse.
No trace of explosions in the seismic record.
What's left to discuss - "pull it?"
PoetryHound 1 year ago
So the question is what kind of mechanism is available to remove all the support in 8+ stories? cuz none of the buildings energy was available to do ANY work at all- for over 2.5 seconds! The entire building not just 1 small section- no. THE WHOLE width of the building, had an almost even acceleration. And went into freefall for about 2.5 seconds! ACCELERATION not velocity- for 2.5 seconds! wat mechanism took out all the resistance & support? wat fire? get real!
swu880 1 year ago
freefall is an acceleration & a state of motion where all of an object's energy- ALL of its energy is converted into gravitational energy. NONE of its energy is available to do anything else- no crushin no bending no dancing no jumping! Moreover remember freefall is instantaneous- not gradual! When an apple sits on a table, it is supported & not at freefall. When the table is instantly removed, the apple goes IMMEDIATELY into freefall acceleration- no time delay its immediate
swu880 1 year ago
whether u went 90mph or not! The fact u went 90mph or not is INDEPENDANT- that means has nothing to do with the avg velocity! Average velocity is pretty useless especially when uniformity is in question. Average acceleration is EXTREMELY useless since no one gives a damn about such an arbitrary value- it dont tell me what forces were at work at each & every moment. only the instantaneous acceleration can tell me how much force was at work at any given point of time- any INSTANT- instantaneous
swu880 1 year ago
Freefall is an acceleration NOT A FUCKING TIME NOR VELOCITY! it is not an avg! it is instantaneous. ie What is the exact acceleration of an object a time t NOT what is the 'overall avg' velocity, accel, etc
AVERAGES are USELESS! They are arbitrary1 what the fuck does an average tell u about the instantaneous changes of motion? does an average velocity tell you what ur velocity was at any given point of time? NO! just cuz ur "trip was 10miles long & lasted an hour" does not mean whether u went
swu880 1 year ago
newton's law of conservation says that if an energy is used to do work, it is not available for anything else. Thus, with F=ma we see how if an object's energy is converted into gravitational energy, it is not available to be converted into kinetic energy. why? well energy is finite & limited! it is conserved! Thus if the energy was to be converted into kinetic energy to do work, we would see a deceleration! do u even know wat deceleration vs acceleration is? lol
swu880 1 year ago
This is essentially what you are trying to argue. poetryhound: "officer, i didn't go 90mph, my trip was 10 miles long, it took me an hour long to get there. how is it that i went 90mph?" lol
And you are also essentially trying to DEFY the laws of physics here. Freefall if u looked it up means that an object has how much resistance below it? none! can it be achieved if there is resistance below it? no!
swu880 1 year ago
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@swu880 actuaily air causes resistance as well as any other type of friction. "Freefall if u looked it up means that an object has how much resistance below it? none! can it be achieved if there is resistance below it? no!" u do kinda sound like an idiot. A skydiver has resistance acting on the surface of his/her person. And is considered to be in "a freefall state" don't believe everything you read in books. I don't understand how this didn't occur to you unless you really have huge holes...
UND1LARA1KHAR 8 months ago
freefall is a fact. the govt destroying evidence is a fact. the govt(epa) which is a branch of the whitehouse lying about the air quality & environment of ground zero is a fact. the hundreds & thousands of first responders who died & got sick from the toxins in the air as a result of the lie is a fact. the govt sponsored agency(nist) which is a branch of the whitehouse humiliating itself on public television during the review of its 9/11 report is a fact- u only need to utube it to find out
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
NIST ADMITS FREEFALL
dont u dare try to comment when u dont even know what freefall means or u lack even the basic understanding of high school physics. It aint that hard to learn decent physics fundamentals- hell u could even find pretty good videos on basic physics concepts right here on youtube. or use google. or read a textbook!
swu880 1 year ago
/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=related
swu880 1 year ago
ie It is a FACT wtc 7 dropped at freefall acceleration for an extended period of time- there is no viable explanation for this unless an outside force destroyed the building
swu880 1 year ago
This guy is engaging in pure fruitcakery. The 911 conspiracy cult has rapidly declined. Hits on 911 kookspriacy web sites have plummeted from their 2006 highs, especially after Bush left office. Attendance at kookspiracy events has likewise plummeted. There were only about 100 people who showed up at last year's widely advertised Sept 11 rally in Manhattan. These various 911 theories are the same thing as moon landing denial and belief in alien abduction.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
hey gravity is a theory- but with more & more repetetive tests & analysis, the tests move closer to reality. Theories are based on facts so when facts accumulate, the theories themselves become substantial. not to mention the 'official theory' is itself a 'conspiracy theory' that contradicts & ignores the facts of the day.
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
The mainstream version is more of a hypothesis than a theory. Hypotheses are often established to explain plane crashes and other disasters. Sometimes there are competing hypotheses and you go with the best one. There's not enough evidence to support any one of the myriad competing 911 hypotheses. That's why there are so many of them.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
lol- uh wtc7 went into freefall acceleration for 2.5 seconds. That is FACT. no viable mechanism for such a fall is given by official theory. lol moreover- 19 hijackers only? yeah right! u need far more people in much more powerful positions to pull this stuff off. 19 people with a boxcutter manage to bypass all the air defense systems & manage to down 3 buildings by crashin into 2
That is a JOKE
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
just look @ the gulf of tonkin incident- 58,000 people killed for nothing- going to war on false pretenses, slaughtering millions of vietnamese for NO reason at all. Except to further increase control & maintain a drug cartel- yes a drug cartel. US used vietnam to supply drugs & such durin those years. u think they dont have the guts to pull off another false flag attack?
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
btw- the US govt already disclaimed any innocence it may have in the incident by committing a federal crime- IT THREW AWAY ALMOST ALL THE EVIDENCE! That spells one thing: MAJOR COVERUP- its quite literally the second pearl harbor
And if u had studied any real history, u would realize that US was involved quite deeply in the attacks of pearl harbor
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
david chandler has already shattered any govt credibility- particularly those of nist. just watch the vid & see nist the govt agency of the WHITEHOUSE humiliate itself- lol they dont even understand the fundamental difference between acceleration & velocity(ie. gravity aint a velocity nor time- its an acceleration)
/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_8783&v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 The evidence was thrown out after it was inspected. There were thousand of tons of debris. It was meticulously sifted at Fresh Kills. That's how they recovered the human fragments. Engineers from ASCE & SEAoNY inspected as much steel as they wanted before it was disposed of.
I've seen the Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory stuff before. It's on the level of moon landing denial or Roswell UFOs.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@swu880 The 2.25 seconds constituted just 15% of the collapse time. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
The collapse started out slower than free fall, then there was the 2.25 free fall period, and then it transitioned to slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
BTW, acting incredulous doesn't make you right. The hijackers prepared & practiced for months beforehand.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
sigh- u dont even know what freefall means do u? lol go read a damn physics textbook not written or published by nist
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
No object can EVER achieve freefall acceleration for ANY period of time unless there is absolutely NO resistance supporting it. I would love for you to prove this otherwise- hell all the scientists & physicists would love for you to prove this otherwise- But if u actually read a physics textbook & learn some damn physics, learn what are newton's laws & the importance of freefall, u would find out how foolish ur comments are an attempt to downplay such a significent aspect of the crime
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
freefall is a small part of the collapse but by NO means is it a minor aspect. hell its own definition makes it very significant
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
no mechanism proposed by nist or the official bullshit theory allows for freefall to occur. not fire, not some bogus magic, not some bs random falling debris, etc- the ONLY way to achieve the instantaneous continuous smooth carefully timed decent as seen in those videos of wtc7 & its freefall is through use of explosive energies- as explosives are very instantaneous & very malleable.
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
before you comment, maybe you ought to read a damn physics book & at least pass high school physics. When you can identify the difference between the concepts of velocity, acceleration, distance, time & instantaneous vs average, then u can come back to talk. or else you yourself lack any credibility as u have shown to lack any real analytical scientific skill or reasoning
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
i would bet u neither understand the significance nor could u even identify newton's laws of thermal dynamics nor even those of basic motion. Do you even know what gravity is & what is freefall? if u have passed high school physics, u ought have all this basic background knowledge already.
Or else your statements are as ludicrous & foolish as those of nist's:
watch?v=xl4jbNA5Nlo&p=376A6081A505839D&playnext=1&index=2
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
ps- it is a crime to scrap any evidence- and maybe you ought to research a bit before you make any statements(google is ur friend). Much if not all of the evidence was scrapped long before any govt investigation really took place- MONTHS at least before nist even launched its investigation
hell the fact that the EPA lied about 9/11- merely a few days after the disaster, it said the air is "safe to breathe". And hundreds & thousands of workers, first responders & people
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
all became severely ill from the exposure to toxic & airborne chemicals & toxins. But the steel & debris was all quickly hauled away- melted down, thrown out
if u have ever watched a god damn csi show or even read a GOOD detective novel or even really studied forensics, u would realize the basic IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. hence its a crime to violate or tamper with a crime scene- & is not 9/11 the biggest crime scene in america? yet evidence was quickly brushed off & thrown away
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 So if you claim all the evidence was scrapped, then you're admitting there's no evidence of any controlled demolition.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@swu880 "it is a crime to scrap any evidence"
But there was no controlled demolition so there was no evidence of it to be scrapped.
"Much if not all of the evidence was scrapped long before any govt investigation"
Don't know what yo mean by "evidence" but the debris, including the steel, was indeed examined as you've already been told.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@swu880 You forgot to answer my questions. Here they are again:
The 2.25 seconds constituted just 15% of the collapse time of WTC 7. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
The collapse of WTC 7 started out slower than free fall, then there was a 2.25 second free fall period, and then it transitioned back to slower than free fall again. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
wow- like i said u really dont understand how to measure freefall AT ALL! freefall is an acceleration. it is not a time, it is NOT a velocity. And it is the instantaneous acceleration which determines the presence of freefall NOT a useless avg value which is very arbitrary!
What is freefall? go open a damn textbook before you speak! come back when u at least have a understanding of these basic concepts! Velocity, time, distance, displacement, acceleration, instantaneous vs avg
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
chandler has already busted ur poor methodology & misconceptions. see u & nist keep on using the same irrational & fraudulent argument- like i said, you are trying to argue urself out of a 90mph speeding ticket by saying, 'your honor, i didnt go 90mph, my trip was 10 miles and it took me an hour long to travel"
Tell me what is the problem with this statement? if you ask any physics professor not associated with nist or even ask a cop, u will see the problem
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
geez u dont even know what the hell freefall is. nor do you even know what is velocity, speed, distance, time, acceleration- lolol- u are officially as lame as nist if u cant even figure it out- google is ur friend
And by ur statements, its obvious u dont have the slightest clue as to how u can measure force, measure distance, velocity & acceleration. There are so many ways of acquiring such data- especially when u have video evidence- that is plenty sufficient for gatherin info.
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
But u can NOT destroy a crime scene! And doing so, in this situation would constitute one thing- a cover up. why else would u destroy the evidence? huh? why would u melt the steel then ship it to china when it is CRUCIAL evidence connected to one of the worst crime in america?
you clingers clearly lack any real analytical skills at all. hell i doubt u even took high school phyics!
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 So for the third time, according to NIST, the period of free fall acceleration was just 2.25 seconds or 15% of the total period of collapse. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition. Since you don't know the answer, just say so.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@swu880 "freefall is an acceleration"
Correct. Never said otherwise.
"it is not a time"
Sort of correct, but it is certainly possible to measure the time period during which free fall acceleration is occurring. NIST measured it at 2.25 even though incorrectly state that it cannot be measured.
How ironic that it turns out to be YOU that needs to go open a textbook!
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
wrong- u measure an acceleration according to acceleration! u do NOT compare acceleration with any sort of arbitrary time duration! if u knew wat acceleration was, u would see why its foolish to do so- accel = change of distance / time^2 and moreover theres a key difference betweeen instantaneous & avg- do u know what it is?
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
its a matter of vital importance- the instantaneous is important the average is useless & ARBITRARY just as the 'start & end' are made to be arbitrary. But regardless of start & end times, the instantaneous motion of the building remains in clear view- we can measure the INSTANTANEOUS velocity, instantaneous acceleration & we can compare it to G! it is all in plain view. And the qustion of freefall is NOT a question of averages- please open a FUCKING physics textbook! read newtons laws
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
understand those laws. Energy is finite & limited! this is the law of conservation.
go look up the fuckin definition of freefall. Can an object be in freefall if it's energy is resisting or crushing or smashin another object? lol can it even smash, crush & pulverize another object without decelerating & without the presence of outside force? When a hammer impacts a nail, does it not decelerate without the presence of outside force?
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
So WHATis the mechanism that can destroy all 40 some columns across the whole width of the building in such a precise manner so as to bring about an even freefall collapse? how th fuck can you achieve freefall if u have resistance below an object?
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
see u clingers are essentially trying to prove a contradiction using very faulty reasoning. You are essentially saying if an object at time t0 with 10newton of force were to convert all its force into gravitational energy, the same 10newtons are available to crush any resistance below it. 10 = 20 in your minds. You are tryin to defy both the laws of thermal dynamics & the laws of motion & energy conservation
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 Absolutely swu. There are way too many anomolies re: 9/11 A new new investigation therefore is imperative. I only hope we begin sometime soon, while the key traitors are still alive.
Loejyrrab 1 year ago
@swu880 You're still wrong. Read it and weep:
"the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions."
If you disagree with the investigators, I don't care. They have expertise & credibility. You don't.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
lol u seriously dont even know basic physics. sigh- go to high school take a god damn physics class already. your methodology & understnanding is quite poor. YOU DO NOT MEASURE FREEFALL USING AN ARBITRARY AVG BASED ON AN ARBITRARY START AND END POINT! freefall is a acceleration of an object at a specific instant! go pass physics then come back to talk
btw- the 130 db is an ARBITRARY made up value which holds no real meaning & no real grounds! the nist
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
You said no explosions were heard in any of the building yet the very testimony of the janitor rodriguez stoutly debunks any such claim. The cure for willfull ignorance is DEATH- if u continue down that road of ignorance & irrationality, u will not find anything there.
flashes were reported to be seen, explosions heard & felt- over hundred firefighters alone heard & noted explosions! yet only 1 or like 2 support the official bullshit
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
nist haphazardly pooped out an arbitrary 130db sound level after making NUMEROUS false assumptions. 1) it first assumed that rdx or a type of c4 which has a high concussion rating, could be the ONLY kind of explosive present 2) it neglected or ignored any possibility for sound interference & dampening that may occur. ie other sound interference, other objects muffling sounds, cars, buildings in way, a ton of people chatterin away, etc- all these factors were neglected in the spontaneou
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
arbitrary production of a 130db sound level. Hell, what is worse is 3) nist neglected or more like THREW OUT the national fire inspection manual which is a standard for inspecting fire damage & any building collapse. Read the fucking national fire inspection standards. aint that ironic- the "National institute of standards & technology" never abided by the national standard for fire inspection.
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 lol & u still want to lend those bastards credibility & deny the validity of the 100+ firefighters?
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
The very national standards for fire inspection defined what an explosion is & sound is not a requisite component of an explosion. However, an explosive sound is indicative of an explosion. That means, u can have an explosion with little to no sound- or like no one necessarily "hears" it. But you can not have an explosive sound without the presence of an explosive
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880
hell, 99% of the time(still lookin for that 1%), when govt bureaucraps make excuses, u know they are bullshitting, when they make promises, u know they tend to deceive you. And yet u wish to BELIEVE all their bullshit? lol shows how little ur analytical skills are.
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 I haven't seen a post from PoetryHound for over 3-1/2 years. Maybe, he/she has been using other logons. I see that he/she is still pushing the same crap.
074August 1 year ago
@PoetryHound
lol there is no such thing as a "3 stage collapse" as nist is tryin to make. that aint how it works one bit. freefall is instantaneous- please look up these damn concepts & learn it before you speak. im not gonna teach it to u- ill only laugh at u if u cant do it urself. ignorance aint a virtue
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 "there is no such thing as a 3stage collapse"
Who should we believe about this - people with the requisite expertise and experience on the subject or . . . you. Thanks, but I'll stick with the folks who know what they're talking about. The truth is that the free fall acceleration took place very briefly and happened between two periods where the building collapse encountered resistance. So the questions remains, are those conditions typical of a controlled demolition? You don't know.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
@swu880 "The only way to achieve . . .is through use of explosive energies."
That would be known as an unsubstantiated assertion.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
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@swu880 You forgot to answer my questions. Here they are again:
The 2.25 seconds constituted just 15% of the collapse time of WTC 7. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
The collapse of WTC 7 started out slower than free fall, then there was the 2.25 free fall period, and then it transitioned to slower than free fall. Is that what happens in a controlled demolition?
PoetryHound 1 year ago
just hear what WILLIAM RODRIGUEZ said...
prihanantozh 1 year ago
I'd trust Alex Jones over any crap from NIST. You only have to look at their pathetic wtc7 collapse simulation to know something is wrong.
Its leaning over crazily and cut short after 3 seconds before the free fall they have admitted goes into effect.
zenoist2 1 year ago
WTC7 puzzled me as well... until I discovered that the building was fully involved. The building was ultimately on fire on all 47 floors. "Fully involved." Plus, the bottom 10 floors had been scooped out to the depth of about 20% by the tower debris. It was leaning and groaning for some time before collapse. It was very apparent to the firefighters that the building wasn't going to stay standing, so they pulled out to let it implode.
DaveTheTurd 1 year ago
@DaveTheTurd "It was LEANING and groaning for some time before collapse."
Leaning? And then fell straight down? If it WAS leaning, then that suggests weakening at that area - and that's the way it would fall, not perfectly straight down.
CodeTwo2 1 year ago
alex jones is a quack and an idiot, he is not to be trusted - anyone should consider that the 911 was an inside job but using Alex Jones as a reference will not help, as he is a quacktard to the fullest extent
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
These elitist /bankers/globalists will all be held accountable, maybe not here on earth but when they meet their maker ,they wont be a bail out big enough to save their asses, no cronies to help em ,no favors or connections...I will feel no pity for them
wesleypipesbk 1 year ago
@wesleypipesbk It is times like this that I wish I was not an atheist. Knowing these bastards will all end up in hell for all of eternity is almost enough of a reason for me to become a believer.
sbalogh53 1 year ago
It may be the Washington Times way of telling the Corporate Elites, Bankers and Globalists (the Obama Administration) to make damn sure their newspaper gets bail-out money because of the demise of large newspapers.
StrykerCV 2 years ago
@StrykerCV
good thinking!
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
Hitler, Bush and Obama. Same shit different assholes.
MrClawson9 2 years ago 12
@MrClawson9
Obama is no way like the other two, and you cheapen the evil of Hitler and Bush by saying so.
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@missopinionated1976 I disagree, if anything Obama is leading up to be worse then Hitler and Bush.
MrClawson9 1 year ago
@MrClawson9
baloney.
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@MrClawson9 "Republican, Democrat, Communist... They are all the same to me."
TruthfulThinking 1 year ago
YES
monoxygen2012 2 years ago
AT LONG LAST! HOORAY!
The real truth has to surface soonest.
I bet there are quite a number of folks in the USA, UK & Israel, not sleeping so well these nights ~ & so they shouldn't.
~South Africa~
annie46664 2 years ago 3
You have to wonder what is going on when a government ran newspaper reports something like this.There is an ulterior motive here,bet your house on it.Could it be any coincidence that the 9/11 trial of KSM is coming up soon?Maybe Obama wants blame put on Bush so that his Muslim friend can go free.Just a thought.
mcap52 2 years ago
Alex is a Patriot
Obama is not!
Obama=Bush
CTCADGUY 2 years ago
So much respect for Richard Gage,a great man doing a great job.
tiewebb 2 years ago 6
Maybe the Washington Times are discreetly telling the planners of 9/11, those in congress and the pentagon, not to mess up so spectacularly in their next terrorist plans.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Anyone who wants to harm those who wish to find the truth is hiding something very ugly. This, my friends, is a fact!
VariusMayhem 2 years ago 3
richard gage is the fuckin man.
yourweedsux 2 years ago
The sooner the better.. i hope something gets done soon so we can get this out of the way
hiphopspriority30 2 years ago
You`re not here to tell the truth Alex. You're here to tell part of the truth. If you were here to tell the truth you'd be covering Israel's brutalization of the Palestinians. You wouldn't utter falsehoods in your video TerrorStorm eg Gladio took place in Asia, Latin America, and the Mid-East. You'd be focusing on Zionist control of the media.
rfalfonse 2 years ago
Control of the media matters Alex. It's been a problem for our movement. We would have made a lot more headway if the media weren't under control of interests hostile to us, namely Zionists.
And while we're discussing Zionist control of the media Alex, maybe we should be asking why Zionists are hostile to our movement. Why are they hostile to 9/11 Truth?
rfalfonse 2 years ago 2
@rfalfonse
Great comment.
Alex never talks about the zionists.
He even said one time hollywood is owned by arabs.
And considering the fear mongering on the y2k bullshit, he can't be trusted.
Like all the alive truth agents, he's compromised.
Mixing truths with lies.
WolfLikeLamb 2 years ago
@rfalfonse
911missinglinks Free Film banned by JismPlanet
euro944t 2 years ago
Israel and members of the military and neocon US govt. did 9-11.
GrassyKnollTrolls 2 years ago 2
research Pearl Harbor and events preceding that event.Research the cause of ww1 and the cause of all the wars we have been in.You will be surprised at what you find.
jasonfulton 2 years ago
Nice, very Nice! Thank you.
serenaalessia 2 years ago
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
2 planes = 3 buildings?
rlindsay23 2 years ago 4
maybe Deborah Medina will switch back :)
skibee50 2 years ago 5
go alex the truth will set you free
1paulmohill 2 years ago 8
seems to me the ancient Mayans were right in saying 2012 is the end of a dark age & the begining of an age of enlightenment,more & more of us are waking up as every day passes to our criminal leaders,the most powerful people in our world today could end all poverty & illness in our world,the wars could end,we could live in peace & harmony with free clean energy if they really wanted us too,but quite obviously they want to keep the wars, the suffering going on we must ask WHY?..namaste
davyro66 2 years ago 3
if we were un American we would not never question what the government does...going against the Constitution of the United States. As an American I would never do this... I question all atrocities this government does...including their involvement with 9/11!
I dont listen to Alex Jones but this is some great information! ;)
SNIPERGIRL420 2 years ago 4
I question what all Govt do not just this one.
jasonfulton 2 years ago
as we all should... ;)
SNIPERGIRL420 2 years ago
people that committed 911
will never be brought to justice
osama binladin will never be capured/ simply because the war on terror would be over and the public will spport will decrease
bush is a puppet in 911 circle of power, the people that run the world and possibly commited 911 are banking coporation, they are untocable and will continue to insalve contries via debt. debt trough war, IMF, interest
its all about reviving the dollar
KingKong1ooo 2 years ago
Osama bin Laden is NOT wanted for the Sept. 11 attack. Look on FBI's website if you don't believe me. Saudi Arabian men did the job.
rlindsay23 2 years ago
nothing will happen, this story will die out and the sheep will keep quiet and continue to pay taxes like good little amerikkans.
dikkydoo1 2 years ago
we are arming ourselves......................
i give this whole debacle another 2 months before all out civil war.
lynette1953 2 years ago
Hahaha I hope you're wrong. But I do like that article. Pretty cool.
2242bzo 2 years ago
I wouldn't give it two months, but two steps before...
admiralcrash1 2 years ago