I know it, why do you think i said what i did??? The Spitfire was better than the Mustang, and look at the war, it shows that Russia had better aircraft.
@mwillis1000 First of all, they are almost identical in specifications, but the Mustang had a better record. And I did look at the war, the Russian aircraft were better, but against American and British planes from the 40s! It proves nothing, obviously a well designed fighter with 1960s tech could beat one with 1940s tech. It's like comparing a winchester repeater to a thompson.
As an attack heli the Apache is obviously the best. But overall I'd go with the Blackhawk, it's one of the most versatile helicopter designs ever. It can be equipped to carry troops, carry cargo, provide recon, be armed for attack, etc.
This is a horrible comparison, none of these are in the same class. The Blackhawk is a transport. The Hind is a gunship. And the Apache is an Attack/Anti Armour helicopter. completely different.
@GroficaOdMetropole No you dumb ass it can't transport any troops It's an attack helicopter the Apache doesn't need any gunners the ah-64 Is unbeatable It can fly In day or night any kind weather It gives fright to the enemy. The hellfire missiles can pierce threw enemy armor for more than 3 and a half miles away and the apache can detect the hind from a distance with it's radar system and the apache has a targeting Acquisition and Designation Sights, Pilot Night Vision System
@danrtopp Are you dumb or something the Hydra 70 unguided missiles have maximum range of 1.5 km and are less powerfull than the Shturm Attacka 80mm unguided missiles from russians wich have 23kg 11kg or 7,6kg warheads the Hydra has only 4kg.The Mi24 is still the unbeaten and most succesfull attack helicopter in history used by 40 countries seen more than 70 battlefields even air to air combats, Apache has not done just 5% of what Mi24 has seen, done and succesfull proved.Mi24 R73 30-40km range
@Talshet Hello hello we're talking about the AH-64 vs the Mi24 hind where did the Hydra 70 come into place ? it has nothing to do with the AH-64 or the MI24 Hind
@danrtopp 1 was shot down by a close range RPG, but the crew survived. Where did you get that from? And now to the dumbs bragging about the Mi24, get your head out of your ass. An Apache would crush a Hind in an AA fight. The Apache could spot it first, it has much better targeting systems. A more powerful cannon, 30mm explosive>12.7 And it can carry FIM92 Stingers(infamous for taking out Hinds), or AIM9 Sidewinders.
@Talshet what are you talking about? And when was the Mi24 armed with R73s? And while the Hind may have been used a lot, it's been around for double as long as the Apache. And Apache has done not even 5%? Your an IDIOT. It hasn't been used in many conflicts as well, with an even better service record. Want an example of what they can do? 200 some Apaches in Desert Storm took out 500+ tanks and dozens of enemy vehicle in 100 hours, and with only 1 lost to a close rangeRPG, crew survivedtho
@danrtopp It's Russian.... But Blackhawk would probably make a better attack chopper if it was equipped with machine guns that the pilots could control, since the Blackhawk's armor is probably stronger than the Apache's. But as of right now US Apache controls being the best attack chopper in the world.
@danrtopp It's Russian.... But Blackhawk would probably make a better attack chopper if it was equipped with machine guns that the pilots could control, since the Blackhawk's armor is probably stronger than the Apache's. But as of right now US Apache controls being the best attack chopper in the world.
In fact they are all weapons of destruction, costing a fortune to build and maintain in a time where the whole world is tethering on the edge of economical collaps.
However, I ~do~ so like the MI-24 Hind. The sheer size and the utterly brutal appearance of this monster makes it may favourite, admittedly not based on any facts, only on looks. :) And the music, for once, did not seem out of place in a video like this.
@TheVorteXTecnology You put this a week ago and you just rattled about Havoc prototype of the 1980's stupid. Mi-28NE is what is in use for VVS and export models all include superb radar, counter electronics and upgraded weapons systems that make Ah-64 a thing of the past. Not to mention higher ceiling, faster speed -agility bout the same but an ejection system second to none. This gives Havoc pilots a second chance as Apache's would be forced to rescue.
@TheVorteXTecnology Well there's your problem...instead of doing real research you copy random falsified facts. We live in a great country where information is at our fingertips and its sad to see it go to waste. Try to do better so the world can still have faith in us in the future.
for all you people who think the hind is so tough, let me just say that the hind was not origanlly a gunship, it was originally a transport helicopter. Some still make them for transport. Our Apache is armed with a m230 chaingun cannon, hellfire missles, stinger missles(some) and 70 mm hydra rockets, look it up
@John11298 wasn't it modeled after thge Mi-8? just added with armament. And it's far less manueverable than the apache, as well as with tech many years older, and just a plain big as target for any anti aircraft. The Apache was clearly made as an attack heli. And none of them wouldn't have been around if it wasn't for the ah-1 cobra.
@Sporeplayer2102 In Afghanistan the Hind is so heavy it needs a rolling start to take off like an airplane. Many were damaged becacause the tails snapped off when they tried to lift off.
The black hawk should not be in this comparison! not compare to Apache, much less the Hind! Mil mi-35 is a project of the old Russian school, which surpasses the Americans at all! How Blackjack against B1, Galaxy vs. An-124, Myria without compare! A10 vs Su25, F 16 vs Mig 29, F 15 Eagle vs Su 35, and F22 Raptor vs Pak! HaHaHaHa U.S. is the third power!
The Apache is a pure attack-heli, supposed to pave the way for the Blackhawks, so these can go in and land their infantry.
The Hind is both. It does it's own paving, lands the troops and goes up to cover them. That is why it is so much bigger and heavier armoured than the Apache. I know Rambo shot one down with bow and arrow, but you are all allowed a reality-check before posting.
Of course the apache is the leading attack helicopter now due to the time differences and the technology differences that come with.
However If Russia were still pushed to create leading combat helicopters im sure America would still be playing catch up. They were for a long time playing catch up to the HIND and maybe still are playing catch up to the MIG jets.
Do not let patriotism blind, Russia had some smart cookies researching, designing and building these war machines
@zemurph Mikoyan Gurevich has no aircraft that matches the F-22 and F-15, Maybe the MiG-31 could score a F-15, but not a F-22. The MiG-29 has been shot down several times by the F-15. The F-22 is by time the far most outstanding figther jet, it has no matches until T-50 is operational.
@TEHGROUND The Mig-29's and F-16' with luftwaffe had drills against each other. the MiG-29 always won if it had the HCMS, but then luftwaffe brought AMRAAM's for the F-16's and then the MiG-29 did not have a chance against the F-16's...
@mwillis1000 :D No..... no..... no...... It's like saying Mig-29 was there and raped the F-15. Mig-29 had better numbers, but the F-15 could still force a Mig to crash and burn rather than shooting it down itself. Same goes for F-22 and SU-T-50. F-35 will also do well!
@mwillis1000 Okay, you are a dumbass. majority of american/british fighters from before 1950, while the MiGs were all modern to that time period. And , No modern US air superiority fighter has been shot down, F15 103-0 F16 73-0 , F22 ?-0. Even since WW2, P51 Mustang 13:1 kill ratio with almost 5,000 aircraft shot down Against the Luftwaffe!, F6 Hellcat had a 19:1 ratio in the pacific with the most AA wins of the war. learn your history.
@BlindBusDrivr The war was imbalanced since the American/British aircrafts were from the 40s whilst the Russian jets were from the 60s. It's like comparing an F4 Phantom to a Bf109.
@BlindBusDrivr Two F-15 Eagles were shot down in a mock dog fight with a single British Eurofighter Typhoon over the Lake District in England. The F-22 was also beaten by a Eurofighter in a number of combat tests.
@Ninja1275 Your a dumbass, why would our own allies be shooting down our aircraft? And the F22 has been proven through hundreds of simulation to be the best modern jet fighter.
@BlindBusDrivr A MOCK dogfight. A training exercise? A Eurofighter took 2 down in a training exercise over the Lake District in England.
In regards to the F-22, it certainly is the most advanced in the world. However, the US asked for a British Eurofighter to go over to the states to compare the two planes in combat tests, believing the F-22 would blow the Euro away. Instead, the F-22 was in fact beaten in a multitude of tests. Something like 8 - 3 to the Eurofighter I believe.
@Ninja1275 I'm still skeptical but that makes more sense. And you said they were shot down, not that it was a training exercise. And I'm not surprised, the F15 is still on the lower class of fighter compared to a 5th gen like the F22 of Eurofighter.
Whoever it was that said "cannon to cannon, the Apache is better", is a flipping idiot. The Hind-D has a twin 30mm cannon. And if it was so weak, then how come US forces train against captured Hinds?
The simple truth is they are both great machines, and are in different classes and cannot be accurately compared.
ok time for reality check, Hind is a great helicopter. Appache is a great helicopter. Vs Hind its a no brainer Apache is simply better. WOW suprise decades newer and way more exspensive! KA50? no but KA52! Oh yes! However at the end of the day the US fields more AH64s then all the russian ka 50 and ka 52s and Mi24s as well! Hell the US probably has one AH64 for every rocket on a russian attack helicopter.
@ieatedbutter hah where did you get your facts from HIND ain't worth shit 1 they cant make sharp turns or they will literally cut off their own tail 2 has to take off like a jet on a full load and 3 they aren't gyroscopically balanced like an Apache meaning if it went up at a 90 degree angle it would fall back on itself and crash which by the way a Black Hawk can do.
@16xxx660@tomicalover Mi-28 still can be taken down by 50. cal gun. Not very idea against other superpower since the M2 50.cal is a standard gun for most European country and 20/37 cannon are still in service as well.
@Russia2010 srry but apache would destroy a hind. it as radar jamming, heatseaker missle jamming, low heat profile, and flares. Also a lot of fire power. I'd rather have a heli thats actually effective
The hind is big,bulky,loud and outdated.An AH-64 longbow apache could take one down with its 30mm auto cannon.Or an AA missle.The Mi-28 Havoc is the russian equivelent to the Apache, they are really the same.Although the Mi-28 was originally desingned to be a recovery helicopter for downed pilots. It would be a real close call between the two.
@c00mander116 HowEVER! The ugraded SuperHind by ATE systems is a huge improvement, still technically a Hind, to the MI-24, and I would IMAGINE that in a cannon-cannon battle the SuperHind might have a fighting chance... I can't get much info at all on the web but from what i've seen the Vektor 30mm it uses has a higher Rate of fire than the M230, (has a surpressor too, not that that matters), but the Super I think has a better power-weight ratio too! I only wish I could find out the Super's spec
@tarkinfish Cannon-to-cannon maybe,however even with just the cannon the hind would be ripped to shreds before it ever knew the apache was there, thanks to target locator on the top of the helicopter,making it a longbow.And if it has the Lonbow III upgrade,you can just forget about a fight,because there wont be one.And most Apaches now have the Lonbow III upgrade.
Mi-24 Hind was more proven in Afghanistan as attack helicopter than troop carrier...Anyway Mi-28 is almost the same shit as Apache...Only a Russian response to it
Mi 24 is the best out of those 3. Modern Russian Mi24 is kickass helicopter. It might have few flaws but it will do its job better than US counterpart. Apache could be compared to Ka-50 or Ka-52 because its roles are pretty much same.
The hind is good at what it dose like killing unarmed civilians. But its too slow, too loud, and has a very clear heat signature meaning it is very vulnerable to heat seeking missiles .
@Shebshie lol yous say killing unarmed civilians ohhh dudeee lul im not often heard and saw MI24 kills unarmed civilians like the americans do with shity apache,and pussy cobra,btw Mi24 is a lot more older than apache dont compare it (btw a Mi24 can kick an apache ass anytime)oh and very vulnerable to heat seeking missiles most of the choppers are vulnerable to them an AA missile can easyl lock on anddestory an apache too compare to the Mi28 or KA52 idiot...dont talk shit.
@carbon0HUN your the idiot. a newer Apache would annihilate anything in its path including the mi 24. its more maneuverable and more firepower. besides the apache is mainly a tank killer its not meant to be fighting other choppers. and id like to see you call a cobra a pussy when its blowing your ass up you fucking idiot
@jake8712 lol you are funny :D...yeah a newer apache, can kick an old MI-24 ass what a power...a newer MI like MI 35 or a modernized MI24 can easyl destroy it... mi 24 is a 40 years old chopper idiot..and yeah the cobra is for pussys its like a toy chopper an AK can blow it up.)if a MI24 is not, a MI 28 or a KA-50 or 52 can blow your head off from 8 kms..
@carbon0HUN no way dude a modern apache would beat a modern mi24, it would give an apache a run for its money but wouldnt win. a kamov ka 50 or 52 wouldnt beat it either. like i said its not ment for air on air fighting
UH-60 is not attack, "U" stands for Utility. MH-60L/K DAP is. Though only one unit, 160th SOAR, in US military uses them, and only one platoon from each company is DAP birds. Almost all UH-60's can have the External Stores Support System (the wings) installed, but it's for extended range fuel tanks ONLY. In fact the DAP birds don't have fuel hook ups in the wings, and use internal Robertson tanks installed against the bulckhead in the back.
to put in detail, the united states military helicopters are seperated byt he prefix in their name, AH and UH, AH being Attack heli and UH being Utility
F22 and F35 are both advance.. f22 is more agile than f35 but f35 can carry more weapons
jcbiglangawa 2 months ago
Mustang didnt have a better record, Spitfire did.
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mwillis1000 2 months ago
@Blind
I know it, why do you think i said what i did??? The Spitfire was better than the Mustang, and look at the war, it shows that Russia had better aircraft.
mwillis1000 2 months ago
@mwillis1000 First of all, they are almost identical in specifications, but the Mustang had a better record. And I did look at the war, the Russian aircraft were better, but against American and British planes from the 40s! It proves nothing, obviously a well designed fighter with 1960s tech could beat one with 1940s tech. It's like comparing a winchester repeater to a thompson.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
As an attack heli the Apache is obviously the best. But overall I'd go with the Blackhawk, it's one of the most versatile helicopter designs ever. It can be equipped to carry troops, carry cargo, provide recon, be armed for attack, etc.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
This is a horrible comparison, none of these are in the same class. The Blackhawk is a transport. The Hind is a gunship. And the Apache is an Attack/Anti Armour helicopter. completely different.
BlindBusDrivr 3 months ago
hind is the best
MeandMomsStupidVids 4 months ago
@MeandMomsStupidVids The AH-64 Is The Best
danrtopp 4 months ago
@danrtopp can it transport troops?does it have any gunners on sides?
GroficaOdMetropole 3 months ago
@GroficaOdMetropole No you dumb ass it can't transport any troops It's an attack helicopter the Apache doesn't need any gunners the ah-64 Is unbeatable It can fly In day or night any kind weather It gives fright to the enemy. The hellfire missiles can pierce threw enemy armor for more than 3 and a half miles away and the apache can detect the hind from a distance with it's radar system and the apache has a targeting Acquisition and Designation Sights, Pilot Night Vision System
danrtopp 3 months ago
@danrtopp Are you dumb or something the Hydra 70 unguided missiles have maximum range of 1.5 km and are less powerfull than the Shturm Attacka 80mm unguided missiles from russians wich have 23kg 11kg or 7,6kg warheads the Hydra has only 4kg.The Mi24 is still the unbeaten and most succesfull attack helicopter in history used by 40 countries seen more than 70 battlefields even air to air combats, Apache has not done just 5% of what Mi24 has seen, done and succesfull proved.Mi24 R73 30-40km range
Talshet 3 months ago
@Talshet Hello hello we're talking about the AH-64 vs the Mi24 hind where did the Hydra 70 come into place ? it has nothing to do with the AH-64 or the MI24 Hind
danrtopp 3 months ago
@Talshet and by the way 12 Apache helicopters were shot down by enemy fire during the Iraq War
danrtopp 3 months ago
@danrtopp 1 was shot down by a close range RPG, but the crew survived. Where did you get that from? And now to the dumbs bragging about the Mi24, get your head out of your ass. An Apache would crush a Hind in an AA fight. The Apache could spot it first, it has much better targeting systems. A more powerful cannon, 30mm explosive>12.7 And it can carry FIM92 Stingers(infamous for taking out Hinds), or AIM9 Sidewinders.
BlindBusDrivr 3 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr I know an Apache would crush the hind
danrtopp 3 months ago
@Talshet what are you talking about? And when was the Mi24 armed with R73s? And while the Hind may have been used a lot, it's been around for double as long as the Apache. And Apache has done not even 5%? Your an IDIOT. It hasn't been used in many conflicts as well, with an even better service record. Want an example of what they can do? 200 some Apaches in Desert Storm took out 500+ tanks and dozens of enemy vehicle in 100 hours, and with only 1 lost to a close rangeRPG, crew survivedtho
BlindBusDrivr 3 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr You blurted out something about the Hydra 70 ungiuded missiles
danrtopp 3 months ago
@danrtopp No that's that Talshet guy bragging about the rockets the russians would be dumb enough to put on their fighters.
BlindBusDrivr 3 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr Okay
danrtopp 3 months ago
AH-64 And The Black Hawk Are The Best 2 Helicopters Ever
danrtopp 4 months ago
the song is i close my eyes by dj liquid
cronocoffin 4 months ago
The Mi-24 Hind Is Nothing Compared To The AH-64
danrtopp 4 months ago
@danrtopp gee ur a bit slow and stupid
Tamatoy 4 months ago
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danrtopp 4 months ago
i like the hind...
sergeikozin47 4 months ago
What's The Name Of This Song ?
danrtopp 5 months ago
the black hawk CAN be armed. i've seen it on the range:)
367brett 5 months ago
@CopperFusion it can be
GrayWolf673 5 months ago
The Mi-24 Hind Looks Gay Is It Even American ?
danrtopp 5 months ago
@danrtopp It's Russian.... But Blackhawk would probably make a better attack chopper if it was equipped with machine guns that the pilots could control, since the Blackhawk's armor is probably stronger than the Apache's. But as of right now US Apache controls being the best attack chopper in the world.
TheHm3 5 months ago
@TheHm3 The blackhawk is not equipped with armour, the AH-64 can take big bullets
JVC7400 3 months ago
@danrtopp It's Russian.... But Blackhawk would probably make a better attack chopper if it was equipped with machine guns that the pilots could control, since the Blackhawk's armor is probably stronger than the Apache's. But as of right now US Apache controls being the best attack chopper in the world.
TheHm3 5 months ago
However, I like the MI-24!!! MI- 28 .KA-50 , KA-52 ,,BEST Helis
1ramus1 5 months ago
I have no clue wich one is the "best".
In fact they are all weapons of destruction, costing a fortune to build and maintain in a time where the whole world is tethering on the edge of economical collaps.
However, I ~do~ so like the MI-24 Hind. The sheer size and the utterly brutal appearance of this monster makes it may favourite, admittedly not based on any facts, only on looks. :) And the music, for once, did not seem out of place in a video like this.
LarS1963 6 months ago
AWSOME VID!!
robbiemagic 6 months ago
APACHE 1200 30mm rounds--havok only 250 30mm
apche can carry 23000 lb -- havok only 11500
apche more sofisticated in electronics such as his night vision is by far better
and can take control of an UAV
apche can take 23mm rounds where the havok only 12.7mm rounds
apache radar has more range and better wave signal. havok lacks on radar
APACHE has flares, radar jamming, and missile jamming in rotor,-havok only has flares
i like the mi28, it is a grat helicopter but not superior to apache
TheVorteXTecnology 6 months ago
@TheVorteXTecnology You put this a week ago and you just rattled about Havoc prototype of the 1980's stupid. Mi-28NE is what is in use for VVS and export models all include superb radar, counter electronics and upgraded weapons systems that make Ah-64 a thing of the past. Not to mention higher ceiling, faster speed -agility bout the same but an ejection system second to none. This gives Havoc pilots a second chance as Apache's would be forced to rescue.
strizhi 6 months ago
@strizhi actually i just copy that comment
TheVorteXTecnology 6 months ago
@TheVorteXTecnology Well there's your problem...instead of doing real research you copy random falsified facts. We live in a great country where information is at our fingertips and its sad to see it go to waste. Try to do better so the world can still have faith in us in the future.
strizhi 6 months ago
@strizhi hey men cool down i can feal the heat from your head
TheVorteXTecnology 6 months ago
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TheVorteXTecnology 6 months ago
for all you people who think the hind is so tough, let me just say that the hind was not origanlly a gunship, it was originally a transport helicopter. Some still make them for transport. Our Apache is armed with a m230 chaingun cannon, hellfire missles, stinger missles(some) and 70 mm hydra rockets, look it up
John11298 6 months ago
@John11298 not to mention the apache is like waayyyyy more manuvable and newer right?
potctk 6 months ago
@John11298 wasn't it modeled after thge Mi-8? just added with armament. And it's far less manueverable than the apache, as well as with tech many years older, and just a plain big as target for any anti aircraft. The Apache was clearly made as an attack heli. And none of them wouldn't have been around if it wasn't for the ah-1 cobra.
BlindBusDrivr 6 months ago
Hind is the Crocodile more Firepower F**k U.S.A FP
hind can carry 8 troops n 1 gunner 1 pilot
=10 troop carrying killing machine Thumbs Up
Sporeplayer2102 8 months ago
@Sporeplayer2102 In Afghanistan the Hind is so heavy it needs a rolling start to take off like an airplane. Many were damaged becacause the tails snapped off when they tried to lift off.
rds13601 7 months ago
@Sporeplayer2102 I agree !!!
02Sibalex 6 months ago
POLISH MI 24 :D:D
makrumsa1987 8 months ago
!!!! Russian Power !!!!
Fuck off USA
JariQ1 8 months ago
@JariQ1
Both the U.S and Russia are both equal military powers.
KingCommando32 8 months ago
The Mi 24 s a gunship
TheWhysoweird 8 months ago
The black hawk should not be in this comparison! not compare to Apache, much less the Hind! Mil mi-35 is a project of the old Russian school, which surpasses the Americans at all! How Blackjack against B1, Galaxy vs. An-124, Myria without compare! A10 vs Su25, F 16 vs Mig 29, F 15 Eagle vs Su 35, and F22 Raptor vs Pak! HaHaHaHa U.S. is the third power!
nn74 9 months ago
what about the mi-28 havoc?
SendThemRunning 9 months ago
Lixos amaericanos kkkk
Wayolphi 9 months ago
i like the hind
kiwininja100 9 months ago
They are completely different all three.
The Apache is a pure attack-heli, supposed to pave the way for the Blackhawks, so these can go in and land their infantry.
The Hind is both. It does it's own paving, lands the troops and goes up to cover them. That is why it is so much bigger and heavier armoured than the Apache. I know Rambo shot one down with bow and arrow, but you are all allowed a reality-check before posting.
Which one is best? Apples or oranges?
LarS1963 10 months ago
Of course the apache is the leading attack helicopter now due to the time differences and the technology differences that come with.
However If Russia were still pushed to create leading combat helicopters im sure America would still be playing catch up. They were for a long time playing catch up to the HIND and maybe still are playing catch up to the MIG jets.
Do not let patriotism blind, Russia had some smart cookies researching, designing and building these war machines
zemurph 1 year ago 2
@zemurph Mikoyan Gurevich has no aircraft that matches the F-22 and F-15, Maybe the MiG-31 could score a F-15, but not a F-22. The MiG-29 has been shot down several times by the F-15. The F-22 is by time the far most outstanding figther jet, it has no matches until T-50 is operational.
JVC7400 1 year ago 3
@JVC7400 The MIG-29 is a good aircraft, Iraq was just no match for the American pilots.
TEHGROUND 11 months ago 2
@TEHGROUND The Mig-29's and F-16' with luftwaffe had drills against each other. the MiG-29 always won if it had the HCMS, but then luftwaffe brought AMRAAM's for the F-16's and then the MiG-29 did not have a chance against the F-16's...
JVC7400 11 months ago 3
@JVC7400 F-16!!
USAmilitarypower 3 months ago
@JVC7400
T-50 is now here, and raping the F-22.
mwillis1000 3 months ago
@mwillis1000 No it isnt, it still a pre-production aircraft, real ones will be there in 2016.
JVC7400 3 months ago
@JVC7400 2017
TheHm3 3 months ago
@mwillis1000 :D No..... no..... no...... It's like saying Mig-29 was there and raped the F-15. Mig-29 had better numbers, but the F-15 could still force a Mig to crash and burn rather than shooting it down itself. Same goes for F-22 and SU-T-50. F-35 will also do well!
TheHm3 3 months ago
@TheHm3
Ever heard of the indo-pakistan wars?
The US aircraft were all beaten by Russian aircraft.
mwillis1000 3 months ago
@mwillis1000 That's because of the pilots.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr
And, the Soviet planes were better.
mwillis1000 2 months ago
@mwillis1000 Okay, name 1 time that an F15 has been shot down by another aircraft?
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr
Have you look at the war i have already stated?
mwillis1000 2 months ago
@mwillis1000 Okay, you are a dumbass. majority of american/british fighters from before 1950, while the MiGs were all modern to that time period. And , No modern US air superiority fighter has been shot down, F15 103-0 F16 73-0 , F22 ?-0. Even since WW2, P51 Mustang 13:1 kill ratio with almost 5,000 aircraft shot down Against the Luftwaffe!, F6 Hellcat had a 19:1 ratio in the pacific with the most AA wins of the war. learn your history.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr The war was imbalanced since the American/British aircrafts were from the 40s whilst the Russian jets were from the 60s. It's like comparing an F4 Phantom to a Bf109.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr Two F-15 Eagles were shot down in a mock dog fight with a single British Eurofighter Typhoon over the Lake District in England. The F-22 was also beaten by a Eurofighter in a number of combat tests.
Ninja1275 2 months ago
@Ninja1275 Your a dumbass, why would our own allies be shooting down our aircraft? And the F22 has been proven through hundreds of simulation to be the best modern jet fighter.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr A MOCK dogfight. A training exercise? A Eurofighter took 2 down in a training exercise over the Lake District in England.
In regards to the F-22, it certainly is the most advanced in the world. However, the US asked for a British Eurofighter to go over to the states to compare the two planes in combat tests, believing the F-22 would blow the Euro away. Instead, the F-22 was in fact beaten in a multitude of tests. Something like 8 - 3 to the Eurofighter I believe.
Ninja1275 2 months ago
@Ninja1275 I'm still skeptical but that makes more sense. And you said they were shot down, not that it was a training exercise. And I'm not surprised, the F15 is still on the lower class of fighter compared to a 5th gen like the F22 of Eurofighter.
BlindBusDrivr 2 months ago
@BlindBusDrivr The new F-15 Silent Eagle is already out.
quickzilver333 1 month ago
@Ninja1275 the f-22 isn't the most advanced anymore, it is now the f-35 lightning, search if you don't believe :D
KTMstu1 2 months ago
@JVC7400 A US f-15 has never been shoot down!
USAmilitarypower 3 months ago
Whoever it was that said "cannon to cannon, the Apache is better", is a flipping idiot. The Hind-D has a twin 30mm cannon. And if it was so weak, then how come US forces train against captured Hinds?
The simple truth is they are both great machines, and are in different classes and cannot be accurately compared.
kylepartridge100 1 year ago 2
ok time for reality check, Hind is a great helicopter. Appache is a great helicopter. Vs Hind its a no brainer Apache is simply better. WOW suprise decades newer and way more exspensive! KA50? no but KA52! Oh yes! However at the end of the day the US fields more AH64s then all the russian ka 50 and ka 52s and Mi24s as well! Hell the US probably has one AH64 for every rocket on a russian attack helicopter.
Beeba1 1 year ago 2
Lololololololololol you can question our M16's but never question the US's actual firepower you filthy Russians
trento7o8 1 year ago 2
If I were the Russians I would b laughing at the apache. It's nothin compared to the Hind
Ghostx0x3 1 year ago 2
@Ghostx0x3
lol thats true
The apache has much more firepower, is more accurate, and less older
i24kilzz 1 year ago 2
@Ghostx0x3 Yea it is. It's like the Apache is (gold). And the Hind is (shit).
NWFWMbudwieser 11 months ago
The world hates you
fredericoflavio1 1 year ago
The blackhawk is a transport helicopter.
Anonymous007K007 1 year ago
@ieatedbutter hah where did you get your facts from HIND ain't worth shit 1 they cant make sharp turns or they will literally cut off their own tail 2 has to take off like a jet on a full load and 3 they aren't gyroscopically balanced like an Apache meaning if it went up at a 90 degree angle it would fall back on itself and crash which by the way a Black Hawk can do.
TheJake1005 1 year ago
Russia has three new helicopters, which are better.
Ka-50 Black Shark
Ka-52 the two-seater
Mil Mi-28
Mil Mi-28 is equivalent to AH-64 Apache not Mi-24 Hind.
but I admire Mi-24 Hind.
thx for the video f39eagle2.
16xxx660 1 year ago
@16xxx660 @tomicalover Mi-28 still can be taken down by 50. cal gun. Not very idea against other superpower since the M2 50.cal is a standard gun for most European country and 20/37 cannon are still in service as well.
916ppl 1 year ago
@916ppl thx for the info good 2 know m8.
16xxx660 1 year ago
hind ftw
198cvx 1 year ago
where's the fuck is Mi-28 Havoc? it could diminished those shitty expensive apaches.........
tomicalover 1 year ago
god damn, the Hind is such a scary-looking helicopter. id shit my pants wet if it was staring at me, its like a giant fucking flying grasshopper...!
gloryglorybarcelona 1 year ago
mil mi 24 is the rock.
lukitazz568 1 year ago
the chinoock is also armed, it has 2 miniguns, one on each side and one gun on the tail
Serhattiee 1 year ago
the mi 24 looks pretty badass anyone else agree.
conza410 1 year ago 2
ChromeSGU from Russian here only ми 24
pvsparsin 1 year ago
Russian vehicles all very ugly
ChromeSGU 1 year ago
@ChromeSGU
in ur fucking yank dream asshole! all russian military vehicles looks evil. they shouldnt looks like pussys...like US crap...
Russia2010 1 year ago
@Russia2010 i am not yank. i said only agly!!! do u know what means agly?
ChromeSGU 1 year ago
@ChromeSGU
i know what that means (ugly), so i told it lokks not ugly but evil, and everybody admit it!
Russia2010 1 year ago
@Russia2010 i agree it can hurt very much but this is ugly :)))
ChromeSGU 1 year ago
@Russia2010 srry but apache would destroy a hind. it as radar jamming, heatseaker missle jamming, low heat profile, and flares. Also a lot of fire power. I'd rather have a heli thats actually effective
RPZB96 1 year ago
not UH-60 Blackhawk >AH-60 Battlehawk
legostarwarsfanable 1 year ago
what's the music? please :)
AAV47 1 year ago
most transport helis today have some form of defense against ground hostiles and not meant to be attack helis.
AAV47 1 year ago
The hind is big,bulky,loud and outdated.An AH-64 longbow apache could take one down with its 30mm auto cannon.Or an AA missle.The Mi-28 Havoc is the russian equivelent to the Apache, they are really the same.Although the Mi-28 was originally desingned to be a recovery helicopter for downed pilots. It would be a real close call between the two.
c00mander116 1 year ago
@c00mander116 HowEVER! The ugraded SuperHind by ATE systems is a huge improvement, still technically a Hind, to the MI-24, and I would IMAGINE that in a cannon-cannon battle the SuperHind might have a fighting chance... I can't get much info at all on the web but from what i've seen the Vektor 30mm it uses has a higher Rate of fire than the M230, (has a surpressor too, not that that matters), but the Super I think has a better power-weight ratio too! I only wish I could find out the Super's spec
tarkinfish 1 year ago
@tarkinfish Cannon-to-cannon maybe,however even with just the cannon the hind would be ripped to shreds before it ever knew the apache was there, thanks to target locator on the top of the helicopter,making it a longbow.And if it has the Lonbow III upgrade,you can just forget about a fight,because there wont be one.And most Apaches now have the Lonbow III upgrade.
c00mander116 1 year ago
For the Apache vs Hind thing, Its true the Apache would rape the Hind, but it all depends on the pilot.
HaloPlaya443 1 year ago
get to da choppaaaaaaaaa
detibry 1 year ago
the AH-64 is a FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH
callofdutyguy9 1 year ago
The Hind is just terrifying
ninodrhr 1 year ago
@ninodrhr if i see that thing hover above the horizon aiming EVERYTHING its got at ME................. I WILL SHIT MY PANTS XD XD XD XD
SQUIRALBOY43 1 year ago
@SQUIRALBOY43 i did see them fly by me very close and trust me they are scary as shit (and they were friendly by the way)
ninodrhr 1 year ago
Mi-24, Mi-28N, Ka-50, Ka-52
ReDDDgo 1 year ago
I dont see contest which one is better, I mean theyll all kill u if u mess w/ them at war...
CorpralDunn 1 year ago
Mi-24 Hind was more proven in Afghanistan as attack helicopter than troop carrier...Anyway Mi-28 is almost the same shit as Apache...Only a Russian response to it
Duke0Forever 1 year ago
@Duke0Forever
I'd actually say the Mi-28 is basically closer to a Mi-24 without the passenger compartment.
Suyamu 1 year ago
@Suyamu well they had to replace aging systems like Hind
Duke0Forever 1 year ago
Dammit, the video is great, but cmon, change this techno sound and put a pure rock n` roll in there =P
vitorsanta 1 year ago
Mi 24 is the best out of those 3. Modern Russian Mi24 is kickass helicopter. It might have few flaws but it will do its job better than US counterpart. Apache could be compared to Ka-50 or Ka-52 because its roles are pretty much same.
BritneyAddicted4EVA 1 year ago
Mi-24 cool
1THQM 1 year ago
hey that hind looks like a commical airplane!! hahahahhahahahahahahhahaha
p1drp 2 years ago
The hind is good at what it dose like killing unarmed civilians. But its too slow, too loud, and has a very clear heat signature meaning it is very vulnerable to heat seeking missiles .
Shebshie 2 years ago
@Shebshie lol yous say killing unarmed civilians ohhh dudeee lul im not often heard and saw MI24 kills unarmed civilians like the americans do with shity apache,and pussy cobra,btw Mi24 is a lot more older than apache dont compare it (btw a Mi24 can kick an apache ass anytime)oh and very vulnerable to heat seeking missiles most of the choppers are vulnerable to them an AA missile can easyl lock on anddestory an apache too compare to the Mi28 or KA52 idiot...dont talk shit.
carbon0HUN 1 year ago
@carbon0HUN your the idiot. a newer Apache would annihilate anything in its path including the mi 24. its more maneuverable and more firepower. besides the apache is mainly a tank killer its not meant to be fighting other choppers. and id like to see you call a cobra a pussy when its blowing your ass up you fucking idiot
jake8712 1 year ago
@jake8712 lol you are funny :D...yeah a newer apache, can kick an old MI-24 ass what a power...a newer MI like MI 35 or a modernized MI24 can easyl destroy it... mi 24 is a 40 years old chopper idiot..and yeah the cobra is for pussys its like a toy chopper an AK can blow it up.)if a MI24 is not, a MI 28 or a KA-50 or 52 can blow your head off from 8 kms..
carbon0HUN 1 year ago
@carbon0HUN no way dude a modern apache would beat a modern mi24, it would give an apache a run for its money but wouldnt win. a kamov ka 50 or 52 wouldnt beat it either. like i said its not ment for air on air fighting
jake8712 1 year ago
@jake8712 A KA-52 would probably beat an apache in some ways, but again it depends on who the crew is.
tarkinfish 1 year ago
@carbon0HUN and the mi28 is basically the russian version of the apache ah64
jake8712 1 year ago
@Shebshie
No, the Apache is too slow. The Hind held the speed record for helicopters with 368.4 km/h until 1986
All gunships today are vulnerable to heat-seeking missiles
stalingradComando 1 year ago
UH-60 is not attack, "U" stands for Utility. MH-60L/K DAP is. Though only one unit, 160th SOAR, in US military uses them, and only one platoon from each company is DAP birds. Almost all UH-60's can have the External Stores Support System (the wings) installed, but it's for extended range fuel tanks ONLY. In fact the DAP birds don't have fuel hook ups in the wings, and use internal Robertson tanks installed against the bulckhead in the back.
DonJhonson 2 years ago
Blackhawk is not an attack heli
CopperFusion 2 years ago 41
No but it can be armed as one i guess
TheVendettaC 2 years ago 20
@TheVendettaC not as heavily as the other 2....not as heavily
Ahamster1 1 year ago
@TheVendettaC it can be armed wif twin miniguns on the side
and wif twin miniguns on small wings
but it wont match the ah64 and mi28
kill4kill2kil 8 months ago
well it is multi purpose, it can be, it also cant be, it can do alot
gabeguy24 2 years ago
@CopperFusion think of gta4
greenradman123 1 year ago
@greenradman123 That is weird I was JUST playing that.
CopperFusion 1 year ago
@CopperFusion
to put in detail, the united states military helicopters are seperated byt he prefix in their name, AH and UH, AH being Attack heli and UH being Utility
AznDuD333 1 year ago
@CopperFusion The Black Hawk can be armed with missiles but USAF are not facing any enemy armor or airplane so there is no point in it.
916ppl 1 year ago
@CopperFusion It can carry hydra rockets and 16x hellfire missiles; but the Hind an AH-64 would do a far better job.
TEHGROUND 9 months ago
@CopperFusion *and
TEHGROUND 9 months ago
@CopperFusion its a protected transport heli ;P
kill4kill2kil 8 months ago
Zna ktoś może tytuł piosenki?
zee07091981 2 years ago