I have a kx 250 2t and a yz450f 4t and there's alot of differences, advantages and disadvantages between them but i don't think one of them is faster then the other one. I used to be a person that hated 4 strokes, pretty ridicolous to do before youve tried one. 2 strokes are easier to maintane and alot cheaper to buy parts to, 4 strokes are expensive and bitches to work with but they are easier to ride. Theres ups and downs with everything
2 strokes are too high maintance and you cant run them in low rpms without them fouling out. 4 strokes are heavier. Either work alot to have a cooler bike or just ride a 4 stroke. i stick with 4 strokes.
Alright lets clear this shit up once and for all. Nicdrums56 you are wrong. The too bikes were simply made in different time periods. However, 2 strokes are great at corners 4 strokes can easily top it. 2 strokes are NOT meant to be ridden wide open but throwing them into last gear and pinning it for a few seconds wont hurt. Finally MrTreajen likes hairy sacks..
are you fucking stupid two strokes are four indoor stuff and tight corners four strokes are for wide open shit you cant hold two strokes wide open you dumb fuckin little shit head
@tracey6999997777770 i have been riding all my life and its called staying in the powerband its only seizing when the engine is cold but i gess u dont know that
@MrTreajen no you can seize it anytime any place all you have to do i create enough friction in the cylinders for them to heat up and expand... you do have to stay in the power band on a 2 stroke but that can be remedied by being in the right gear also.. however there are ways around a seizing engine. for instance if you have your bike pinned if you pull in the clutch and hit the kill engine and pop the clutch again it releases oil on the cylinder walls. ive been riding my whole life too bro.
@MrTreajen i wouldn't say 2-3 minutes again it all depends on your fuel gas ratio, the rider, climate, etc. generally you don't seize them but keeping them TOO high on the power band will... so when you say high on the power band you should clarify when you only need to rev it high when starting and going through technical sections other than that they ride like normal bikes.
@tracey6999997777770 i run mine 50/1 i have never siezed a bike and when i say the powerband i meen on the line this guy wuz just having fun he wuz not siezing the bike
@MrTreajen naww bro you should still use more, your understanding of the internal combustion engine is obviously inferior so just stop little guy. not only have i been riding my whole life, i've been fixing, studying, modding and what have you since i figured out that gas makes it go and "righty tighty lefty loosey" so shut the fuck up.
@MrTreajen but nobody took the time to teach you how to spell rebuilding... bro you have NOTHING on me the day you figure out how to get an extra twenty miles to the gallon in a v12 Mercedes, or how to hide the nos caps on the tops of your cylinders, or lets see, bore your cylinders... by hand, and in your case figure out your premix ratio you STILL wont be close to my expertise
@tracey6999997777770 suuuurrreee and i bet you cant drive super late models can you? you probly cant drive sprint cars ....you know what fuck it im not going to wast my time with some nerd who sits at his cpu all day
@MrTreajen oooooohhh driving such a hard task.. do you have trouble with that? its funny talking to people like you.. oh he can spell right... and he ACTUALLY knows what hes talking about.. I'm going to call him a nerd. hahaha bro im 6'3 180lbs I've been racing my entire life. I dont see this as wasting my time because i find this incredibly entertaining.
@tracey6999997777770 no im gunna call you a nerd cuz you got nothin better to do then sit on your ass and act like you know evrything on youtube so fuck off
@MrTreajen haha seriously your gettin all fuckin hurt.. its great! all i have to do is give you alittle shove and you come out swinging. you know thats a symptom of negative childhood memories... were you raped as a little girl?
four strokes are just faster top and two strokes are faster getting to top,two strokes were not made for topped out races they were made intentionaly for indoor racing with tight corners and just and exc..........
@nicdrums56 you are THE biggest moron ive seen on youtube yet, stop speaking outta your ass and use your fucking little know it all mind to realize, you HAVE to run 2 strokes all out top end all day everyday, thats how theyre meant to be ridden... 4 strokes have the bottom end to carry you through turns no problem no whinding it out... jackass..
Man I love both of these Bikes I've rode Both and they both rock. In my opinion I like the CRF450 more on the track the KX250 more for trails. But Sometime this week I'll be gettin a 2007 CRF450. The bike I had before was a 2001 KX250. So I love them both. Great Comp. for every bike.
but you also have to realize that the 250 is a 2-stroke and the 450 is a 4-stroke. a 2-stroke makes double the revalutions per blow of the piston so they are pretty even, id say the guy on the 250 could have tied if he was a really good rider.
2 stroke lack on top end where a 4 stroke can hold its own the whole way through the rpm range .. if the guy on the kx was running balls on the wall i agree it would of been even because he should be ahead for the frist 2/3's of the race
heres a tip I own a KX 250 and I learned that I can only win races if I shift early because the 250s have a lot of low end power. when I wind it out, I usaully lose.
the kx guy didnt know how to race... and the crf 450 races in the same class as the kx250s because they both have the same power, crf is a 4 stroke and the kx250 is a 2 stroke... they both have same power but the crf 450 will probly have more bottum end power, and your suppost to start off in 2nd gear on a kx250 and he started in 1st and was scared to give it to much gas at the start cause he thought he would pop a wheelie.
okay, just for a bit of information, the 250 and the 450 dont have the same power, the 450 has a considerable amount of torque over the 250, a tad bit more on the horsepower, and the kx 250 only revs to about 8000 rpms where the 450 is 11,500 i believe. but generally in a flat out drag race a 450 will bit a 250 two stroke, around a track a 250 with a good rider can hang but usually wont win.
2 jokes
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4 strokes
FrankThaTank903 5 days ago
drag racing is run what u bring hope u brung enough , it the dirt with bumps n jumps its more about rider ability
mellis037 1 month ago
I have a kx 250 2t and a yz450f 4t and there's alot of differences, advantages and disadvantages between them but i don't think one of them is faster then the other one. I used to be a person that hated 4 strokes, pretty ridicolous to do before youve tried one. 2 strokes are easier to maintane and alot cheaper to buy parts to, 4 strokes are expensive and bitches to work with but they are easier to ride. Theres ups and downs with everything
KawasakiRider91 9 months ago
2 strokes are too high maintance and you cant run them in low rpms without them fouling out. 4 strokes are heavier. Either work alot to have a cooler bike or just ride a 4 stroke. i stick with 4 strokes.
Scotty9378 9 months ago
both riders fuckin suck ima just point that out
417ex 1 year ago
i love how people are still saying yeah two strokes all the way! when clearly got raped by a four stroke...
pairadice49 1 year ago
Alright lets clear this shit up once and for all. Nicdrums56 you are wrong. The too bikes were simply made in different time periods. However, 2 strokes are great at corners 4 strokes can easily top it. 2 strokes are NOT meant to be ridden wide open but throwing them into last gear and pinning it for a few seconds wont hurt. Finally MrTreajen likes hairy sacks..
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
top speed the 450 will win i bet halfway threw that race the kx was leading
stanleytherat 1 year ago
are you fucking stupid two strokes are four indoor stuff and tight corners four strokes are for wide open shit you cant hold two strokes wide open you dumb fuckin little shit head
nicdrums56 2 years ago
@nicdrums56 2 strokes ARE MENT 2 BE RIDIN WIDE OPEN dum ass
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen NO THEY ARENT DUMB FUCK! its called seizing and you'd know all about it if you ever grew the balls to hold a 2stroke all the way open.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
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MrTreajen 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 i have been riding all my life and its called staying in the powerband its only seizing when the engine is cold but i gess u dont know that
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen no you can seize it anytime any place all you have to do i create enough friction in the cylinders for them to heat up and expand... you do have to stay in the power band on a 2 stroke but that can be remedied by being in the right gear also.. however there are ways around a seizing engine. for instance if you have your bike pinned if you pull in the clutch and hit the kill engine and pop the clutch again it releases oil on the cylinder walls. ive been riding my whole life too bro.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 yes you can but u would have to stay on the powerband for at least like 2-3 min it dont seem like a long time but it is
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen i wouldn't say 2-3 minutes again it all depends on your fuel gas ratio, the rider, climate, etc. generally you don't seize them but keeping them TOO high on the power band will... so when you say high on the power band you should clarify when you only need to rev it high when starting and going through technical sections other than that they ride like normal bikes.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 i run mine 50/1 i have never siezed a bike and when i say the powerband i meen on the line this guy wuz just having fun he wuz not siezing the bike
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen dude your pistons have got to be fucked up like seriously thats WAY to little premix. i run mine 40:1.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 not if u use neo dumass
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen naww bro you should still use more, your understanding of the internal combustion engine is obviously inferior so just stop little guy. not only have i been riding my whole life, i've been fixing, studying, modding and what have you since i figured out that gas makes it go and "righty tighty lefty loosey" so shut the fuck up.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 shut the hell up iv been rebilding bikes and cars since i wuz ten so SHUT THE FUCK UP
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen but nobody took the time to teach you how to spell rebuilding... bro you have NOTHING on me the day you figure out how to get an extra twenty miles to the gallon in a v12 Mercedes, or how to hide the nos caps on the tops of your cylinders, or lets see, bore your cylinders... by hand, and in your case figure out your premix ratio you STILL wont be close to my expertise
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 suuuurrreee and i bet you cant drive super late models can you? you probly cant drive sprint cars ....you know what fuck it im not going to wast my time with some nerd who sits at his cpu all day
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen oooooohhh driving such a hard task.. do you have trouble with that? its funny talking to people like you.. oh he can spell right... and he ACTUALLY knows what hes talking about.. I'm going to call him a nerd. hahaha bro im 6'3 180lbs I've been racing my entire life. I dont see this as wasting my time because i find this incredibly entertaining.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 no im gunna call you a nerd cuz you got nothin better to do then sit on your ass and act like you know evrything on youtube so fuck off
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen haha seriously your gettin all fuckin hurt.. its great! all i have to do is give you alittle shove and you come out swinging. you know thats a symptom of negative childhood memories... were you raped as a little girl?
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 reey just shut upp ur making your self sound like a fag
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen and you need to figure out how to type because you're coming across as an illiterate and horrifyingly stupid image of a human being.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 y cant u just drop it, this wuz about bikes
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen still is little guy.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 fuck u
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen oh dont! your hurting my feelings!
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 the hell is wrong with u? do u ever shut the hell up?
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen probably not ive never tried
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 then try
MrTreajen 1 year ago
@MrTreajen what about ANY of my previous comments led you to believe that if you told me to do something i would comply... you're a retard.
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@tracey6999997777770 u know what im just gunna stop talking cuz ur looking to couse truble
MrTreajen 1 year ago
four strokes are just faster top and two strokes are faster getting to top,two strokes were not made for topped out races they were made intentionaly for indoor racing with tight corners and just and exc..........
nicdrums56 2 years ago
You got it backwards. Four bangers are made for tight corners ;]
steveak93 2 years ago
@nicdrums56 you are THE biggest moron ive seen on youtube yet, stop speaking outta your ass and use your fucking little know it all mind to realize, you HAVE to run 2 strokes all out top end all day everyday, thats how theyre meant to be ridden... 4 strokes have the bottom end to carry you through turns no problem no whinding it out... jackass..
Rodiak41 1 year ago
@nicdrums56 You really don't know much about dirt bikes, do you?
JakeEwing5 1 year ago
Man I love both of these Bikes I've rode Both and they both rock. In my opinion I like the CRF450 more on the track the KX250 more for trails. But Sometime this week I'll be gettin a 2007 CRF450. The bike I had before was a 2001 KX250. So I love them both. Great Comp. for every bike.
AustinC5570 2 years ago
the only reason y the fucking honda won is bc it was 450cc not 250cc but if it was kx250 vx crf250 kawasaki would kick the hondas ass
CnRDirt 2 years ago
@CnRDirt
Uh doubt it.
wq1299 2 years ago
@CnRDirt it was a 2 stroke vs a 4 stroke u no nothinh about bikes so shut the hell up
SMCkrew 1 year ago
my 250 woulda raped it
limbota 2 years ago
2 strokes
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midnightjoker4money 2 years ago 11
Really?
For all those people saying "OWNED", It's a 250cc v.s a 450cc
450 is obviously going to win, but the 250 hung in there.
OriginalBroadcasting 2 years ago
but you also have to realize that the 250 is a 2-stroke and the 450 is a 4-stroke. a 2-stroke makes double the revalutions per blow of the piston so they are pretty even, id say the guy on the 250 could have tied if he was a really good rider.
250locke 2 years ago
Very true.
OriginalBroadcasting 2 years ago 2
very true
beastlybooston 2 years ago 2
2 stroke lack on top end where a 4 stroke can hold its own the whole way through the rpm range .. if the guy on the kx was running balls on the wall i agree it would of been even because he should be ahead for the frist 2/3's of the race
bradlee101 2 years ago
yeah man thats what im saying exactly
AustinC5570 2 years ago
heres a tip I own a KX 250 and I learned that I can only win races if I shift early because the 250s have a lot of low end power. when I wind it out, I usaully lose.
chevyman8329 2 years ago
yeah but if you shift early you wont even hit the power band, where all the powers too.
250locke 2 years ago
you cant said the kawasaki got "owned" when it was a 250 against 450...
clankersjob 2 years ago
yeah you can its a two stroke..........
ATVLOVER247 2 years ago
@ATVLOVER247 well a 250 2 stroke kills a 250f, and a 500 will absolutely destroy those litte 450's hell a ktm 300 xcw will walk on your 450
ArchieBunker11 1 year ago 8
@ArchieBunker11 not my 450... and a ktm 300 would not "walk" on a 450 you should prolly learn something about bikes before you talk.
ATVLOVER247 1 year ago
@ATVLOVER247 You really think your 450F (250 two stroke class) will take a 500 two stroke?
CRF450=around 50 horsepower and 227lbs dry weight
KX500=Right about 65 horsepower and 220lbs dry weight. Yes. A 500 will still beat your 250.
Shoot, KX250= 49 horsepower and 213lbs dry weight. One horsepower doesn't make up for 14 pounds.
It depends on the rider.
Good rider on CRF450 and good rider on KX250 on a track, lap times will be very close together. YOU should learn something about bikes...
ryanthie 1 year ago
@ATVLOVER247 yeah it would
tracey6999997777770 1 year ago
@ATVLOVER247 a ktm 300 2 stroke would have no problem beating a 450
stanleytherat 10 months ago
@ATVLOVER247 just goes to show why 2 strokes are better half the dissplacement and the same power.
vector292 1 year ago
the kx guy didnt know how to race... and the crf 450 races in the same class as the kx250s because they both have the same power, crf is a 4 stroke and the kx250 is a 2 stroke... they both have same power but the crf 450 will probly have more bottum end power, and your suppost to start off in 2nd gear on a kx250 and he started in 1st and was scared to give it to much gas at the start cause he thought he would pop a wheelie.
jackle1238 2 years ago
okay, just for a bit of information, the 250 and the 450 dont have the same power, the 450 has a considerable amount of torque over the 250, a tad bit more on the horsepower, and the kx 250 only revs to about 8000 rpms where the 450 is 11,500 i believe. but generally in a flat out drag race a 450 will bit a 250 two stroke, around a track a 250 with a good rider can hang but usually wont win.
PhilG88 2 years ago
the kwaka got owned
zacsrocket 3 years ago
owned
Xy2kBloodX 3 years ago