singler is nba already he really should have left after 09...ryan kelly playing the 4 is a joke that guy is soft as pudding and the plumlees are not much better...scheyer is alot better than people give him credit for and duke will struggle without him
Im guessing Duke wont win a championship this year Kyle probly would want to stay (u know how those white guys like staying for championships)
While Kelly might be soft, he is an athletic shooter who can handle the ball and finish around the rim, added with his size would make him a fine hybrid forward.
while yes, scheyer is great, Andre Dawkins could replace him fine, dawkins is a 6'4 sg who can shoot and is very athletic, add seth curry (perhaps bttr than steph)
seth, who many say is ahead of steph right now when steph was at this age.. is a shooter who can also handle the ball...him and dawkins should replace scheyer just fine....as for the plumlee bros. , Miles is a physical presence inside tht is a shotblocker and rebounder but needs work on the offensive side while mason is a presence inside tht can block shots and rebound (not as good as his brother tho) can pass from the post, can finish, and can shoot...add hairston and tht shld b a final 4 team
and for the 3rd and final comment box lol, you add 4 perimiter shooters (Curry, Dawkins, Singler, Kelly) 2 drivers (Irving, Dawkins) and 5 players who can play inside, (Plumleex2, kelly, hairston, singler) all tied together by the playmaking ability by point guard Kyrie Irving (who can also shoot) and u get a championship caliber team
not to burst your spirit but none of the guys you listed are a true post presence...we already saw what happened when singler tried to play inside with guys like hansbrough and zach booker and he is just too soft...the plumlees and kelly have a knack for playing around the perimeter as well
what do u expect.. a true SF kyle singler to shut down a guy like tyler hansbrough?? thats why we have the plumlees...plus kyle singler is a great defender of guys his position and the average 4 guy.
It looks like you havent seen Miles Plumlee play this year...he has obviously gotten better down low as he has had quite a few rejections ...i havent seen mason plumlee but according to the scouts..he is an inside presence tht can score....have u even seen these guys play at duke??
btw Ryan Kelly hasnt even had enough playin time at duke for anybody to judge...all we know is tht he is 6'10, athletic and can shoot...and duke is probly working on him being more of a post presence...stop hatin on duke...u have to admit, come next year...they could very well be a legit final 4 contendor
why wont he? are you a dumbass? how many all-americans do u think liberty had?he shot 25 shots a game because no one else was capable of scoring...not to mention he was playing scrub schools all year in the mid major conferences...i know more than you do, thats why i know duke isnt gonna be a contender anytime soon
really? then why did steph go to davidson? he is clearly good enough to go somewhere big...I thought you knew alot?? neither of them played aau dumbfuck thats why they didnt go anywhere big. You will see, he will be a badass. You dont know shit about what you are talking about.
no...,they didnt go anywhere cause theyre both very thin and not very athletic..think what you want, but curry will be out of his league and duke will continue to get pissed on by unc every year...we'll see how good curry is when barnes has his sack in currys face while dunking-much like green and paulus..btw, wasnt barnes a "duke lock"
Hahahah who cares about Barnes, and wow UNC has been good the past few years... When was the last time UNC won the ACC 7 years in a row??? where were you when UNC didnt even make the tournament a few years back?? when was the last time Duke didnt make it to the tournament? I bet you dont even live in North Carolina..you are one of those Band Wagon mother fuckers
i would start Miles and Kelly over Lance any day. He has absolutely no offence. if one of the other bigs can play defence then the'll be better all around players than Lance. Lance isnt Duke starter caliber IMO.
This is the thing. Miles and Kelly LOOK good in highlight tapes, but theres no telling how they will react in the ACC. Especially with no college experience. Lance looked this good in HS too, and was a Mcdonalds AA. He's also ALOT more exposive, athletic, better defense. Kelly can stretch the floor with his shot ability, but when it comes down to it, Lance has the experience, and DEFENSE, which is Coach Ks middle name
Listen Kelly will be coming off the bench, and by looking at the talent he has whats wrong with that? Jon Scheyer will be AMAZING this year and i wouldnt be suprised if they made a good run at the title this coming year.
screw next year for duke...we lookin at the 2010 season...andre dawkins, seth curry, joshua hairston, joshua smith, harrison barnes, brandon knight, plumlee'S, singler, smith, email williams......enough said
I am a Duke fan but i can see that Ryan Kelly has a very similar game to Singler, except Singler has more athletic ability and quickness... there is a possibility that Ryan Kelly ends up being more of a Taylor King and i doubt he will become the player that Singler is... and i agree very much with you Clinical, we need a Demarcus Cousins type of player
2) this kid can actually handle the basketball, I mean seriously I could dribble the ball about as well as King could, the second King put it on the floor it was a instant turnover
Koudos to you my friend. I can count the times that I really see eveidence of someone who trully knows the GAME of basketball. Bloggers normally talk trash and know nothing about the GAME.
Props to you....I do feel sorry for you, though. Your tone hints at the fact that you a Dukie.
Good luck next year, Cameron Crazy. Hey, it wouldn't be right if I didn't a little SMACK.
Duke sucks and was overrated, that could be another reason they loss. Oh and the fact that Villanova was a much better team. But UNC did get revenge for Duke. Tar Heels, next championship in 2011.
im a duke fan and i must say i agree. duke was overrated for most of the year. they were closer to 15-20th in the nation, not top 8. scheyer is a good ball player, but no one will win a title with him, a shoot-first pure scorer, at point.
although it looks like kentucky will land john wall, if by some miracle he chooses duke (UNC is pretty set at the guards, he will want 1 year of playing time before the nba) and henderson stays, only then is duke a contender.
what? your comment doesn't make sense, unless its horrible use of sarcasm.
henderson gone, wall to kentucky... ryan kelly and the plumlee's are no championship providers. kelly and plumlee are just poor man's versions of kyle singler. and even he ended up being too weak to contend. .. duke better adopt the 'one and done' recruiting strategy soon....
wtf are you talking about?? You said Duke was top 15-20 at best last year that is all I was referring to. They were top 8 at least last year. And I don't think Singler is to weak to contend I think he plays out of position which won't be a problem next year. And Plumlee is in no way like Singler, he is more like a McRoberts and I don't know what to think of Kelly I do know the last big man for Duke to win the McD's 3 point contest was Laettner, seems like he had a pretty good college career
We're gonna have Scheyer, Smith, SINGLER, Thomas, and Mason Plumlee will probably be our starting lineup! That's easily better than what Carolina will put out, Duke will be a serious title contender.
that's hardly a contending lineup. what's different from last year? besides losing our best player, the lineup is the same otherwise. plumlee is not a true center and cannot play the 5. neither can kelly. we have to rely on a smaller lineup again or clumsy old zoubek.
it looks more promising for 2011 with curry and dawkins and hopefully a returning singler and a few other top recruits. this year (and of course i hope i'm wrong) does not look promising.
I agree if your going to play finesse like Duke does you have to have more of a drive and kick offense we really never had that last year we should of did what we did in 07 last year. Hopefully Plumlee is more of a bruiser then we give him credit for
It could get even better at PG as John Wall's interest in Duke is apparently growing. How awesome would that be? But if they miss out on Wall, Brandon Knight's a strong possibility for 2010. I hope Singler stays 4, but if he doesn't, hopefully Harrison Barnes comes in, I like him better than Harriston. Man, I have a feeling 2010 is gonna be a special year for Duke, not just the starting 5 but all kinds of depth. Can't wait!
Singler is listed at 6'8 he was listed at 6'9 in high school he is probably 6'7. Ryan Kelly is listed at 6'9 in high school from what I have seen and he is probably 6'8 in real life. So he is probably more like an inch taller than singler. Players are always a few inches taller during their senior year in high school, when they are being recruited. Remember when Hansbrough was 6'10? He recently admitted in Sports Illustrated that he is only 6'8. Either way Ryan Kelly is the next Singler.
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I played for Gibbons and played against this dude for three years and we never lost...he dropped like 10 a game with 8 rebounds. He needs to hit the weight room or he's going to get beasted.
He plays for Ravenscroft who is in my basketball conference and they not only have him but 2 other guys who are 7 foot. It's not fair at all and we still almost beat them i dropped 12 in that game thank you very much.
yeah and you guys also fouled the crap out of him everytime he got the ball and the ref didn't call a single one, yet he still had over 30 pts...hmmm. no one in that conference even comes close to ravenscroft, girls and boys. :)
needs the weight room
heyurstillfat 11 months ago
Reminds me of Dirk a little bit. If he continues to develop he will be a very good player.
slapperinc 1 year ago
Duke is going to be the best team the year after this year they are getting the number 1 HS player next year and they are getting seth curry
hazletbball4 2 years ago
ummm no....harrison barnes went to unc over dooook and seth curry wont do shit because he wont shoot 25 shots a game like he did at liberty
triplecrown89 2 years ago
we really didnt nead harrison barnes (i mean yea it wouldve been nice to have him lol)
for 2010 roster should look like
pg: Irving, Thornton
SG: Smith, Curry
SF Singler, Dawkins (SF/SG)
PF: Kelly, Hairston
C Miles Plumlee, Mason Plumlee
Thats a team capable of the final four
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
singler is nba already he really should have left after 09...ryan kelly playing the 4 is a joke that guy is soft as pudding and the plumlees are not much better...scheyer is alot better than people give him credit for and duke will struggle without him
triplecrown89 2 years ago
Im guessing Duke wont win a championship this year Kyle probly would want to stay (u know how those white guys like staying for championships)
While Kelly might be soft, he is an athletic shooter who can handle the ball and finish around the rim, added with his size would make him a fine hybrid forward.
while yes, scheyer is great, Andre Dawkins could replace him fine, dawkins is a 6'4 sg who can shoot and is very athletic, add seth curry (perhaps bttr than steph)
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
seth, who many say is ahead of steph right now when steph was at this age.. is a shooter who can also handle the ball...him and dawkins should replace scheyer just fine....as for the plumlee bros. , Miles is a physical presence inside tht is a shotblocker and rebounder but needs work on the offensive side while mason is a presence inside tht can block shots and rebound (not as good as his brother tho) can pass from the post, can finish, and can shoot...add hairston and tht shld b a final 4 team
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
Amen
KyleCP21 2 years ago
and for the 3rd and final comment box lol, you add 4 perimiter shooters (Curry, Dawkins, Singler, Kelly) 2 drivers (Irving, Dawkins) and 5 players who can play inside, (Plumleex2, kelly, hairston, singler) all tied together by the playmaking ability by point guard Kyrie Irving (who can also shoot) and u get a championship caliber team
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
woops forgot about nolan smith...add him to the driver category
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
not to burst your spirit but none of the guys you listed are a true post presence...we already saw what happened when singler tried to play inside with guys like hansbrough and zach booker and he is just too soft...the plumlees and kelly have a knack for playing around the perimeter as well
triplecrown89 2 years ago
what do u expect.. a true SF kyle singler to shut down a guy like tyler hansbrough?? thats why we have the plumlees...plus kyle singler is a great defender of guys his position and the average 4 guy.
It looks like you havent seen Miles Plumlee play this year...he has obviously gotten better down low as he has had quite a few rejections ...i havent seen mason plumlee but according to the scouts..he is an inside presence tht can score....have u even seen these guys play at duke??
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
btw Ryan Kelly hasnt even had enough playin time at duke for anybody to judge...all we know is tht he is 6'10, athletic and can shoot...and duke is probly working on him being more of a post presence...stop hatin on duke...u have to admit, come next year...they could very well be a legit final 4 contendor
MisterRoddy1 2 years ago
who is zach booker?? you dumb fuck
I told you, you didnt know what they hell you are talking about.
hahahahah
KyleCP21 2 years ago
dude i go to school with a zach booker my bad...i would never forget clemsons trevor booker, especially after he dunked on the entire doooook team
triplecrown89 2 years ago
Capable? I guarantee that if everyone stays, that roster will win it all
KyleCP21 2 years ago
why wont he?? that shows you know nothing about basketball
KyleCP21 2 years ago
why wont he? are you a dumbass? how many all-americans do u think liberty had?he shot 25 shots a game because no one else was capable of scoring...not to mention he was playing scrub schools all year in the mid major conferences...i know more than you do, thats why i know duke isnt gonna be a contender anytime soon
triplecrown89 2 years ago
really? then why did steph go to davidson? he is clearly good enough to go somewhere big...I thought you knew alot?? neither of them played aau dumbfuck thats why they didnt go anywhere big. You will see, he will be a badass. You dont know shit about what you are talking about.
KyleCP21 2 years ago
no...,they didnt go anywhere cause theyre both very thin and not very athletic..think what you want, but curry will be out of his league and duke will continue to get pissed on by unc every year...we'll see how good curry is when barnes has his sack in currys face while dunking-much like green and paulus..btw, wasnt barnes a "duke lock"
triplecrown89 2 years ago
Hahahah who cares about Barnes, and wow UNC has been good the past few years... When was the last time UNC won the ACC 7 years in a row??? where were you when UNC didnt even make the tournament a few years back?? when was the last time Duke didnt make it to the tournament? I bet you dont even live in North Carolina..you are one of those Band Wagon mother fuckers
KyleCP21 2 years ago
in this video he looks like paul pierce
backs44 2 years ago
R.Kelly
RyanKellySkates 2 years ago
i would start Miles and Kelly over Lance any day. He has absolutely no offence. if one of the other bigs can play defence then the'll be better all around players than Lance. Lance isnt Duke starter caliber IMO.
DukeFanMan 2 years ago
This is the thing. Miles and Kelly LOOK good in highlight tapes, but theres no telling how they will react in the ACC. Especially with no college experience. Lance looked this good in HS too, and was a Mcdonalds AA. He's also ALOT more exposive, athletic, better defense. Kelly can stretch the floor with his shot ability, but when it comes down to it, Lance has the experience, and DEFENSE, which is Coach Ks middle name
RepPhilly215 2 years ago
Depends I think Lance will start but u never know
DukeRisner 2 years ago
Go Duke!!
pssoff1 2 years ago
North Carolina's Gatorade Player of the Year... cant wait
DukeRisner 2 years ago
I'm Pumped for this year...
PG/SG- Nolan Smith
SG/PG- Jon Scheyer
SF- Kyle Singler
PF- Lance Thomas
C- Miles, Mason or Zoubek (depends on who is looking the best)
We'll have one of the best starting 5's just no bench for the guards
DukeRisner 2 years ago 2
dont forget about olek czyzz
Lolercopterz 2 years ago
u think we'll start lance thomas over kelly at pf?
zakdaballa 2 years ago
Well at least we will have Dawkins one year early
zakmi11 2 years ago
I dont think hairston will start, my 5 is...
PG- Nolan Smith
SG- Seth Curry or Andre Dawkins
SF- Harrison Barnes
PF- Ryan Kelly
C- Mason Plumlee
Bench: Irving, Miles, Thornton, Hairston, Ferguson
DukeRisner 2 years ago
Seth Got To Sit A Year (Transfer)
martin24playboy 2 years ago
If duke ends up with a squad like that I would jump out of my shoes!! Thats what u call a squad right there!!
GottiJLegend 2 years ago
10-11 startin five will be nolan smith andre dawkins harrison barnes plumlee and hairston backups kelly ,plumlee ,irving,seth curry
SuperREAL5 2 years ago
Listen Kelly will be coming off the bench, and by looking at the talent he has whats wrong with that? Jon Scheyer will be AMAZING this year and i wouldnt be suprised if they made a good run at the title this coming year.
OrisnerU 2 years ago
screw next year for duke...we lookin at the 2010 season...andre dawkins, seth curry, joshua hairston, joshua smith, harrison barnes, brandon knight, plumlee'S, singler, smith, email williams......enough said
christomchik 2 years ago
Another so called fan. I hate people like you.
jojozbludevilz 2 years ago
im a die hard fan but really u think were gonna be any better than we were this year..??
christomchik 2 years ago
I am a Duke fan but i can see that Ryan Kelly has a very similar game to Singler, except Singler has more athletic ability and quickness... there is a possibility that Ryan Kelly ends up being more of a Taylor King and i doubt he will become the player that Singler is... and i agree very much with you Clinical, we need a Demarcus Cousins type of player
dukeownsyou23 2 years ago
no way this kid ends up being like Taylor King
1) he doesn't shoot as good as King
2) this kid can actually handle the basketball, I mean seriously I could dribble the ball about as well as King could, the second King put it on the floor it was a instant turnover
zakmi11 2 years ago
Klinickal,
Koudos to you my friend. I can count the times that I really see eveidence of someone who trully knows the GAME of basketball. Bloggers normally talk trash and know nothing about the GAME.
Props to you....I do feel sorry for you, though. Your tone hints at the fact that you a Dukie.
Good luck next year, Cameron Crazy. Hey, it wouldn't be right if I didn't a little SMACK.
dtown32figgas 2 years ago
He is good but has the same game as singler.
They need a real PF who loves contact and a good brawl inside. have not had that since the landlord.
thats the only reason they lost to Nova - when the shots aren't falling you need an inside presence. Duke has become too finesse recently.
Klinickal 2 years ago 4
Duke sucks and was overrated, that could be another reason they loss. Oh and the fact that Villanova was a much better team. But UNC did get revenge for Duke. Tar Heels, next championship in 2011.
damiens80 2 years ago
im a duke fan and i must say i agree. duke was overrated for most of the year. they were closer to 15-20th in the nation, not top 8. scheyer is a good ball player, but no one will win a title with him, a shoot-first pure scorer, at point.
although it looks like kentucky will land john wall, if by some miracle he chooses duke (UNC is pretty set at the guards, he will want 1 year of playing time before the nba) and henderson stays, only then is duke a contender.
EdudLufetips 2 years ago
2011 for duke- Singler, Plumlee, Andre Dawkins, Ryain Kelly, Elliot Williams, Nolan Smith, Joshu ____, and most importantly SEEETTTHHHH CURRRYYYY
jspers99 2 years ago 2
you do know that singler is probably leaving after next year right?
EdudLufetips 2 years ago
they were def. still top 8 because the overall talent level last year was horrible.
zakmi11 2 years ago
what? your comment doesn't make sense, unless its horrible use of sarcasm.
henderson gone, wall to kentucky... ryan kelly and the plumlee's are no championship providers. kelly and plumlee are just poor man's versions of kyle singler. and even he ended up being too weak to contend. .. duke better adopt the 'one and done' recruiting strategy soon....
EdudLufetips 2 years ago
wtf are you talking about?? You said Duke was top 15-20 at best last year that is all I was referring to. They were top 8 at least last year. And I don't think Singler is to weak to contend I think he plays out of position which won't be a problem next year. And Plumlee is in no way like Singler, he is more like a McRoberts and I don't know what to think of Kelly I do know the last big man for Duke to win the McD's 3 point contest was Laettner, seems like he had a pretty good college career
zakmi11 2 years ago
We're gonna have Scheyer, Smith, SINGLER, Thomas, and Mason Plumlee will probably be our starting lineup! That's easily better than what Carolina will put out, Duke will be a serious title contender.
goduke456 2 years ago
that's hardly a contending lineup. what's different from last year? besides losing our best player, the lineup is the same otherwise. plumlee is not a true center and cannot play the 5. neither can kelly. we have to rely on a smaller lineup again or clumsy old zoubek.
it looks more promising for 2011 with curry and dawkins and hopefully a returning singler and a few other top recruits. this year (and of course i hope i'm wrong) does not look promising.
EdudLufetips 2 years ago
i agree but Shelden Williams was very good when it came to putting up a brawl inside
jspers99 2 years ago
thats why there bringing in Plumlee, hes going to be a force once he gets used to college tempo.
ive seen him play and hes very hard to stop inside.
PistolGrip35 2 years ago
I agree if your going to play finesse like Duke does you have to have more of a drive and kick offense we really never had that last year we should of did what we did in 07 last year. Hopefully Plumlee is more of a bruiser then we give him credit for
zakmi11 2 years ago
@Klinickal
Great call man they really struggled without a big PF last season. O wait they actually won the National championship.
bballrcjaguars 1 year ago
u cant believe a 6 10 guy is doing that...
fuzzzy777 2 years ago
kid can stroke it beyond the ark fer sure
thgrtmario 2 years ago
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yeah fuck Duke
Rh43001 2 years ago
Fuck you
TonyBurt10 2 years ago 3
DUKE IS FUCKIN GAY
codyraiders80 2 years ago
Your gay
TonyBurt10 2 years ago
Unless one of those Plumlees become an eraser, we're still gonna fall short. We need a intimidating post presence!
jp012709 2 years ago
2010 duke starters:
elliott williams/ nolan smith/tyler thorton
andre dawkins/ seth curry
ryan kelly
kyle singler/joshua harriston
mason plumlee/miles plumlee
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FlyWonderful23 2 years ago 4
It could get even better at PG as John Wall's interest in Duke is apparently growing. How awesome would that be? But if they miss out on Wall, Brandon Knight's a strong possibility for 2010. I hope Singler stays 4, but if he doesn't, hopefully Harrison Barnes comes in, I like him better than Harriston. Man, I have a feeling 2010 is gonna be a special year for Duke, not just the starting 5 but all kinds of depth. Can't wait!
sr3jr8 2 years ago 2
Although I suppose it's unlikely that Wall would stick around for more than a year... Still excited about 2010. Especially Curry
sr3jr8 2 years ago
i would have
smith
curry
singler
kelly
mason
that is saying singler stays four and wall doesnt come in but with hairston and elliot and dawkins coming off the bench... good lord watch out
jtdukefan12 2 years ago
you can tell he watches KG
reicmuth88 2 years ago
this guy is the next kyle singler. he is gonna be good.
DukeBD3 2 years ago 2
A 3 inches taller singler.
SWAY716 2 years ago 2
Singler is listed at 6'8 he was listed at 6'9 in high school he is probably 6'7. Ryan Kelly is listed at 6'9 in high school from what I have seen and he is probably 6'8 in real life. So he is probably more like an inch taller than singler. Players are always a few inches taller during their senior year in high school, when they are being recruited. Remember when Hansbrough was 6'10? He recently admitted in Sports Illustrated that he is only 6'8. Either way Ryan Kelly is the next Singler.
KarmicJuggernaut 2 years ago
couldn't you have squeezed that into a sentence?
SWAY716 2 years ago
yes. I was thinking the same thing myself
KarmicJuggernaut 2 years ago
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kelly does that forearm move that annoys me, looks like another annoying duke player.
17squashballer 3 years ago
no one cares what annoys you
oprah2 3 years ago 6
lol
wizeota 3 years ago
WORD OF GOD ALL DAY!!!!!!!
chasseAKAloco 3 years ago
wow who give shit if yall played against him.. omg its like i plaed against tyreke evans in highschool, but so what
bjcballa22 3 years ago
Looks like an intruiging prospect. If he hits weight room, look out!
Dre77Dre 3 years ago
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I played for Gibbons and played against this dude for three years and we never lost...he dropped like 10 a game with 8 rebounds. He needs to hit the weight room or he's going to get beasted.
yungjoc233 3 years ago
not true, ravenscroft won last year haha
LMC342 3 years ago 2
He plays for Ravenscroft who is in my basketball conference and they not only have him but 2 other guys who are 7 foot. It's not fair at all and we still almost beat them i dropped 12 in that game thank you very much.
jlohr914 3 years ago
yeah and you guys also fouled the crap out of him everytime he got the ball and the ref didn't call a single one, yet he still had over 30 pts...hmmm. no one in that conference even comes close to ravenscroft, girls and boys. :)
LMC342 3 years ago 2
yea that was point Ravenscrofts/Ryan Kelly are really good and we're not nearly as good and played pretty well against them.
jlohr914 3 years ago
hahah oh, gotcha.
LMC342 3 years ago
HAHAHA I go to Ravenscrofft and his lil sis is my bff and i have gone up to him and talked to him and he is freakin tall
ILUVCEA 3 years ago
you cant say you "dropped" shit unless you score like 30, you cant drop 12 lol
kirchmeyer14 3 years ago 2
MY COUSIN IS THE BEST
whitewolf0730 3 years ago
congrats dookies
fitzcannon 3 years ago 4