i have create male elven rogue..for me..rogue is the best in all character..because of their talent and skill..i can fight the whole army with my single rogue..no need morrigan,wyvnne neither alistair for fight..no need health poultice..no need greater poultice..but my rogue weak againts ogre..because ogre can grab my character..i use archer and 2 weapons(dagger)..very nice..when they attack my rogue..no single attack hit my rogue.. lol..
But what if I want a mixed Rogue? I want to get high skills for archery, dual weapon combat and the rogue skills. I just want a really versatile rogue character. Can anyone help?
@Pur3KaOs100 I decided to do it, it sacrifices damage but in a single player RPG I don't think it's that important to have your character do 100000DPS as others emphasize. I can tell you my build in a PM if you want to try out something similar.
If I might suggest an addendum: "for Rogues". Best in game? Mana Clash by a mile... no, a nautical mile... no, county... state... country... continent. Yeah, continent.
hey what the hell did you do to dragon age 2 ?? you Made it way crapier than origins and what you should of done was the siege of the quanarie or something like that
nice i have donne the dragon armor and its very cool i was using one armor that gives me 15 defense but the dragon scale its better for rogue cuse of dexterity and only the armor has 50%fire resistance
Basically to be the most effective as a melee Rogue, you only take passive talents and do nothing but auto attack as that is the only time you'll backstab. Using abilities actually ruins your damage. So turn Momentum on and keep backstabbing.
As a ranged Rogue you want to build it the same way. You stack +critical chance items and auto attack, making each hit a critical attack and never use an ability. Even Arrow of Slaying is not that great as it takes longer as opposed to atuo attacking.
@Darkmoon821 if you do that DEFFINITLY get lethality, so damage doesnt suffer where skill rocks. dwarves make the best rogues, as they can get 25 gold instantly by doing a insanley short and easy quest.
that isnt the best bow the best one is in Lothering you can steal a bow from him called the imperium crossbow which has the best damage and great reload speed
@SuperSk33t Thats a crossbow which is is used by the powerhouse rogues or warriors because it needs strength. This is the best 'bow' because it is a bow requiring dex to use
@tarded01 But if you get that bow you will miss out on a piece for Diligence armour...which I find to be very beneficial to any rogue; if you can hold on to it until you find all the pieces for the set...This is my opinion as I favor defence over offense.
@tarded01 Well, I started playing again with a rogue and I wanted to use the bow a fair amount as well as using dual weapons...I've put most of my points into cunning and dexterity...I basically left strength alone until level 10....DON'T DO THIS! I thought lethality would be a nice substitute...it is not! Sure you may hit higher now...but that's if you ever hit your target. With any melee weapons you need to worry about str and dex for your accuracy for melee weps. Try to just balance the 3 =)
thats because you probably didn't take the bard specialization. if you take bard and apply the song of courage(the 3rd talent) you will always hit. plus, cunning adds bonuses to most of the rogue abilities. so it really is a disadvantage to go with strength. if you go cunning and apply these song of courage, you will hit harder, get better bonuses,and get better armor penetration going with the cunning lethality route. (BUT YOU HAVE TO USE THE 3RD BARD TALENT)
@tarded01 Hey, thanks for that tip...I usually don't play as a rogue. If I do I usually get Ranger and Duelist...I rarely use Leliana so I never knew about that bard ability!
@Razylll you can still use Liliana if your main character is a bard. bard abilities stack up. if your main and liliana are singing the song of curage. its stacks up and doubles
@1ManArmy786 I heard that your story choices affect it, but I don't think the characters themselves can carry into DA 2. I was kinda bummed when i heard this. I love customization...
@wolfgirl76543 Well, that's some good news...Albeit, I've started to neglect Dragon Age after the Skyrim announcement and I've been playing Oblivion since. =P
one of the only things I totally dislike about this game, not only do they TELL you in a starters guide where to get the best stuff in the game, but this bow, its on the main quest path...you actually have to pass that dragon, to continue... why the F would they put "The best" in such a place? ... I dont get that..
@Jkun because, in all honesty, its not the best. the best is farsong. and if you want farsong, you'll need a pocket as deep as the grand canyon, as almost as wide. very much worth it i hear.
best way to use a rouge is to use dual daggers, just put in dex the amount needed for the skills you want and put the rest into cun, you can easily get over 100 damage with each hit with the right setup, also a good armor would be a chest piece that is sold at wades, but you have to finish 3 of the main quests. and best of all when combined with the gloves and boots that you get from wade doing the quest said here, you will stilll get the item set bonus
I never got Dual Striking cause I didn't like the idea of not being able to backstab. But what this guy says, about using it if the enemy is facing you and then turning it off when he's not facing you. I never even considered that but it makes sense.
@SolidSkillz187 I'd go with Assassin/Bard, Song of Courage is too good to skip.
Dual daggers + damage runes + Momentum is all you need, you'll end up doing more damage with auto-attacks than with abilities (Dirty Fightning + Riposte are only Talents you should use)... personally I find Dual Wield Warriors more fun to play with all their skillspamming and they require less micromanagement too (and they do surprisingly high DPS too), try both and see which one you like better.
@SolidSkillz187 you have to look at the benifits. assassins have the best ability whenit comes to backstabs, but if that is all you can do, youl find this game a massive blockade for most of the time. duelists can be useful for many things, like dodging away from attacks or destroying groups of enemies. bards are like champions with warrior, they help boost freindly characters effectivness. and finally, rangers can call animal assistance, which can let blood mages drain health from them safely.
@SolidSkillz187 assassin and duelist. duelist is basicly a extension to the abilities that rogues have in their combat training. assassins increase backstabs.
@Williamren1 Yeah, I know but it's still the best bow in the game, Even though your own character can't use it. Still it's technically the best in the game that i've found. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything I'm just saying I found one that is better is all ;D
@aercron Marjolaine's Recurve is good if you're gonna use Leliana as archer, but Far Song is THE best bow you can get:
+2 damage
Rapid aim
+3% ranged critical chance
+10 attack
+10% critical/backstab damage
Combine that with Aim & Song of Courage and your CUN rogue will do ungodly amount of ranged damage. My char had 45% Crit chance and did 80-110 damage on crit hits... not to mention she also Shattered frozen/petrified enemies :P
i can help with this. you know owen the blacksmith in redcliffe? he asks you to go find his daughter in the castle. don't find her and tell owen, and he will suicide. later in the game a new merchant will take his place and you can get the far song from him. i think you need to complete 2 treaties first.
I'm not sure on treaties, but otherwise I can confirm your statement.
Bad news is that the bow costs loads of cash, hench you might wanna stick to Leliana & Marjolaine's Recurve if you're planning to buy other expensive gear.
@RaioneruSol aw man, Fml. I'm a Arcane Warrior, so I went to red cliffe as the first treaty I went to.. Because I wanted the Eamons shield, for the +25 stamina.
Actually i dont think you need to complete the first 2 treaties, u just have to go into the Castle through the Sawmill or w/e.(MAKE SURE YOU DONT OPEN THE CELLER ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF ONE OF THE HALLS) After you get to the part where you have to decide what to do about the Demon Boy,you can just leave the castle and go
to tell Owen you didnt find hr. Then leave Redcliffe and come back. Go to the Blacksmith and there will be a new merchant there.
@BerzerkxBreton he sayd that was good for an archer ... dang i screwed it up .. i put some STR , medium DEX and ALOT of constitution because i touhgt a MELEE ROUGE USING daggers like me needed constitution .... can someone please help me , tell me if i scrwed up or did it good , im like lvl 12 and keep hitting 16 and 20
So how much strenght should a melée spec rogue have? The rogue is going to be dex heavy, about 100+. With may be 40 into cunning. And hoping to use good daggers if I find any. Right now I'm level 7, and what's the level cap? I already have duelist slot open but have not specialized it, hoping to go for assassin specilization since I hear it's more "passive" skill based. Any constructive response form any1 that plays the game would be nice. Thank you.
@Raafi1234 20 strength max for melee rouge. as you can choose the leathality skills in the rouge skill tree. which allows you to use your cunning score in place of strength for damage out put. mostly put in dex, to bout 36. loads in cunning, get 20 strength by going to mage tower, using the attributes your find in the fade. yea daggers are the best, always go for backstabs, deal major damage. use momentum skill ( super fast attack) and get duelist as soon as for the defence boost
anyone know if the dex glitch has been fixed on the consoles? I havent played in a while and havent gotten the latest patches and i thought they said patch 1.02 was supposed to fix it. I was going for a backstaber rogue and initially was going to go all cunning after putting points into dex for talents.
Anyways, has the dex glitch been fixed on consoles? ty in avance.
@iorost i dunno dude, from what i've seen, archers are heavy hitters. i thought my dw rogue was good with his best hit being 600dmg, but then i looked at leliana's and i think it was somewhere close to two thousand, so you must be going wrong somewhere. your problem is probably nothing more than your admitted lack of patience. if you stick with it long enough, you'll be a badass, i guarantee it
hm... I don't remember neither a dragon in the forest not the bow in her piles of... gold. I remember I used one from the quest where you bring some special wood to a craftsmith in the Elven village.
@AGElite87 Actually, the attack speed for full-sized weapons like longswords is slower than daggers, and unless you have the talent to use Cunning in place of Strength for damage calculations damage will be inferior. Having said that, backstabs CAN be achieved with full-sized weapons like Longswords in my experience, they're just slower.
If you're going powerhouse, dual full-sized weapons is okay, but if you're going traditional Cunning+Dex rogue, only 20 Points of STR is needed.
My rogue uses an axe/dagger and has couple de grace, going aftr the line below it aswell for the extra stuns. Howevere I got 2 pts in duels, filled the next line and the line under that. Is that bad or.........plz answer me on channel or by mail, ty
SCREW THE DRAKE ARMOR, GET FELON'S COAT BEFORE YOU GIVE HIM THE SCALES.
Once Wade starts working with drake/dragon scales the shopkeeper will not sell you anything, thus you lose access to some of the better armors of the game.
I still think dwarf tanking is the funnest. I'm lvl 22 with 40 str and 70 constitution. Got about 650hp so I can tank out stuff easily on nightmare:) I combo threaten(passive) with taunt, and it works out perfectly
and also the reason why he doesnt say all bows is because those bows only get unlocked .. by your decisions unlike felons cote etc or the bow he mentioned so dont be a noob
@Moonface00z You do realize "Coup de Grace" is pronounced Coop do grah, right? And for all you know this may be before Far Song was implimented, or he didn't want to give it away.
Im making a rogue and i just want to kno which is best to put my points in dex, str, or cun.....also shud i only wield daggers?.....lastly how heavy shud my armor be (chainmail or leather armor)?....What skills too?
I have a few tips for you.. if you wanna get high damage thwen you should put points in little dex and high cun and if you want high def and attack rates (attack rate= attack speed) then put dex and little cunning no need for strength. Or maybe sum strenght for gear but not much
Put everything into Cunning and enough Dex (hard points) for talents. Gear dex requirement can be reached by hard points + equipment bonus (wherein as talents need hard points only). Enough strength + equipment bonus for equipments. Always wear light armor if you are not tanking so you don't get fatigue. Run Bard as one of your specialization and run Song of Courage, which feeds your Cunning score directly into bonus damage. Make sure you get Lethality too, obviously.
why does it seem they dont know shit? Dual striking? Get Coup the grace, stun em and you get backstabs either way, then just move behind em, done deal.
i talk too much but i gotta say this: far song is the best bow. during the castle redcliff quest promise to find owen's daughter, valena. do not rescue her on purpose. after you're in the castle and choosing what to do with connor, before you kill the demon and rescue connor go tell owen you couldn't find valena. leave redcliff and come back. owen will have committed suicide and the new merchant will have far song.
from my experience sometimes when everyone is attacking one enemy (allies + other friendlies) a couple of characters might stop attacking but that's not what this is.
@kangurya I had this issue, turned out it was my tactics. The posture and abilities I had selected told my toons to not do anything if their tactics didn't apply. Adjusted them all and they are fine. Set their posture to aggressive or ranged and they'll get into the fight without you micro-managing their every move. Hope it helps
This is not the game's fault. You're not setting up your party members' tactics correctly. Unless you set their behavior to aggressive for melee characters or ranged for archers and mages your party members will not attack unless you give them orders to do so.
Thats Not The Best Bow In The Game. Get SteelBark Or W.e Its Called For The Elf That Does the Smithing In The Forest And Pick The Bow Its Way Better, n theres better bows than that one too, this man doesnt know what he is talking about lol
i have create male elven rogue..for me..rogue is the best in all character..because of their talent and skill..i can fight the whole army with my single rogue..no need morrigan,wyvnne neither alistair for fight..no need health poultice..no need greater poultice..but my rogue weak againts ogre..because ogre can grab my character..i use archer and 2 weapons(dagger)..very nice..when they attack my rogue..no single attack hit my rogue.. lol..
vikingspread 3 weeks ago
is 2str 1dex good for the melee rouge? or is 1str 2 dex good
Username22481 3 months ago
getting lethality? if that makes cunning better, making you get more crits and precise hits then a striker rogue would be great!
Hobnomb 6 months ago
the best armor for rouges is actually the felons coat which you can but at wades emporium after you make the first set of drake scale armor
kadu21 6 months ago
What he doesn't tell you is that you need 20 str for the drake armor...
zzPaddy 7 months ago
A question that anyone can answer? Is medium armor not recommended on rogue?
MeestaBojangles 7 months ago
I.... I build up my Rogue and end up using Better Armour and Weapons then a fully built Alistar
MrStokesy1 7 months ago
I like this guy, his voice is perfect for the video.
Logas25 7 months ago
But what if I want a mixed Rogue? I want to get high skills for archery, dual weapon combat and the rogue skills. I just want a really versatile rogue character. Can anyone help?
DarkClown06 8 months ago
@DarkClown06 i was thinking the same exact thing.....
Pur3KaOs100 8 months ago
@Pur3KaOs100 I decided to do it, it sacrifices damage but in a single player RPG I don't think it's that important to have your character do 100000DPS as others emphasize. I can tell you my build in a PM if you want to try out something similar.
DarkClown06 8 months ago
@DarkClown06 yes, that would be great. I am buying this game soon(maybe tomorrow) so that would really help. thanx!! :D
Pur3KaOs100 8 months ago
I thought Marjolaine's Recurve and Far Song were the best longbows in the game?
CerberusGX 9 months ago
@CerberusGX i think falon'dins reach is a shortbow
bellystraw 8 months ago
"... by FAR, the best mage killer out there"
If I might suggest an addendum: "for Rogues". Best in game? Mana Clash by a mile... no, a nautical mile... no, county... state... country... continent. Yeah, continent.
Cptpreaplanes 9 months ago
Fatigue -15% U must pay around 30 gold to wade.
jariworld 9 months ago
hey what the hell did you do to dragon age 2 ?? you Made it way crapier than origins and what you should of done was the siege of the quanarie or something like that
dylangetron 9 months ago
nice i have donne the dragon armor and its very cool i was using one armor that gives me 15 defense but the dragon scale its better for rogue cuse of dexterity and only the armor has 50%fire resistance
fabiodark222 10 months ago
LOL - Falon'din's reach isn't the best bow in the entire game
TheZgandalf 10 months ago
@TheZgandalf wrong, it is very much the best in origins
Robzzombay 10 months ago
@Robzzombay Actually it really is not, and it's not even arguable. The best one is Far Song.
Deathinmusic 10 months ago
ty for the info :D
GreatoVinz01 10 months ago
the felons coat is actually the better armor for rouges
kadu21 11 months ago
Basically to be the most effective as a melee Rogue, you only take passive talents and do nothing but auto attack as that is the only time you'll backstab. Using abilities actually ruins your damage. So turn Momentum on and keep backstabbing.
As a ranged Rogue you want to build it the same way. You stack +critical chance items and auto attack, making each hit a critical attack and never use an ability. Even Arrow of Slaying is not that great as it takes longer as opposed to atuo attacking.
AuraofMana 11 months ago
I a more of an up close rogue So i focus On both rogue and dual wield Skills
TheAlvaProductions 11 months ago
plz help. shod i be a Rogue or warior??
verden2004 11 months ago
@verden2004 well, if u liek powerhouse, big swords, heavy armor, a tank, warrior
If your an archer, dual wield, and wanna pick locks, rogue
TheMysteriousDumbaz1 11 months ago
Dual Dagger Rogues are alot more fun than dual one-hander rogues could be IMO. Plus it fits the theme better.
omfgwth89 11 months ago
Ohh ya and Momentum or however u spell it + Daggers = Baddass Backstab rates try it if u dont belive me :D
Darkmoon821 1 year ago
This is not true rogues can be all dex and con and still be badass (Crow's Daggers and Backstabbs all the way) :D
Darkmoon821 1 year ago
@Darkmoon821 if you do that DEFFINITLY get lethality, so damage doesnt suffer where skill rocks. dwarves make the best rogues, as they can get 25 gold instantly by doing a insanley short and easy quest.
robloxfan459 1 year ago
you only need to pay 10 gold for the first set then the next set of drakescale and the dragonscale will both be superior
Fareplayy 1 year ago
lol thats the best bow in the game, when i found it i just went to a shop and sold it
CanadianSinna 1 year ago 2
pretty helpful, but hearing him repeat "me - lee" (instead of "may-lay") made me want to cut my ears off with a melee attack..
SuperJStidham 1 year ago 18
@SuperJStidham Hmmm...with my Wisconsin accent that everyone keeps telling me I have; I'm guessing you'd lose more than your ears. =P
Razylll 1 year ago
@SuperJStidham why is such a big deal how people say it, i say "me-lay" some say "me-lee" others "may-lay"
it's just how people pronounce it
HaloDavester 1 year ago
@SuperJStidham me-lee is how it's spelt, and pronounced.
Pockydon 11 months ago
@SuperJStidham
Just make sure you stack enough points into dexterity otherwise you might miss your ears!
smackedinthejaw 8 months ago
I like momentum over duel striking.
xGhostxJMBx 1 year ago
Dude! You rock! And i think rouge is the best because of the lockpicking skill!
R15T097 1 year ago 2
that isnt the best bow the best one is in Lothering you can steal a bow from him called the imperium crossbow which has the best damage and great reload speed
SuperSk33t 1 year ago
@SuperSk33t Thats a crossbow which is is used by the powerhouse rogues or warriors because it needs strength. This is the best 'bow' because it is a bow requiring dex to use
XUberPwnerXXX 1 year ago
Most powerful bow in the game? Fuck. I junked it because i had no ranger. T_T
CameronMcDChilliwack 1 year ago
@CameronMcDChilliwack That sucks lol. If you had Leliana, she comes with bow skills.
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago
i got that bow yesterday after killin the dragon didnt know it was best in the game lol
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tiblon1 1 year ago
im bein an archer
MrLagvag 1 year ago
everyone else says falons dins reach is only the second most powerful bow. Far Song is the best bow in the game not Falons dins
tarded01 1 year ago
@tarded01 But if you get that bow you will miss out on a piece for Diligence armour...which I find to be very beneficial to any rogue; if you can hold on to it until you find all the pieces for the set...This is my opinion as I favor defence over offense.
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll
quick question. whats better, the high dex build or the high cunning? should i get lethality regardless?
tarded01 1 year ago
@tarded01 Well, I started playing again with a rogue and I wanted to use the bow a fair amount as well as using dual weapons...I've put most of my points into cunning and dexterity...I basically left strength alone until level 10....DON'T DO THIS! I thought lethality would be a nice substitute...it is not! Sure you may hit higher now...but that's if you ever hit your target. With any melee weapons you need to worry about str and dex for your accuracy for melee weps. Try to just balance the 3 =)
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll
thats because you probably didn't take the bard specialization. if you take bard and apply the song of courage(the 3rd talent) you will always hit. plus, cunning adds bonuses to most of the rogue abilities. so it really is a disadvantage to go with strength. if you go cunning and apply these song of courage, you will hit harder, get better bonuses,and get better armor penetration going with the cunning lethality route. (BUT YOU HAVE TO USE THE 3RD BARD TALENT)
tarded01 1 year ago
@tarded01 Hey, thanks for that tip...I usually don't play as a rogue. If I do I usually get Ranger and Duelist...I rarely use Leliana so I never knew about that bard ability!
Thanks for the tip ^_^
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll you can still use Liliana if your main character is a bard. bard abilities stack up. if your main and liliana are singing the song of curage. its stacks up and doubles
tarded01 1 year ago
@tarded01 OoOoo fancy ^_^
I will have to keep that in mind. I'm actually playing through a couple more times...trying to set up different stories for DA2.
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll
i currently am running a rogue bard and a warrior beserker. both are fun, but the bard is harder to design
tarded01 1 year ago
@tarded01 I just came to the realization...we took up the front page with our conversation. ^_^
Good luck on your playthroughs...I'll be sure to give bard a go.
Also, I redesigned my channel page...It's got work to do yet, but I like the idea...tell me what you think.
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll
do your characters play through into DA 2?
1ManArmy786 1 year ago
@1ManArmy786 I heard that your story choices affect it, but I don't think the characters themselves can carry into DA 2. I was kinda bummed when i heard this. I love customization...
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll You are able to customize Hawke, but he/she can only be a humen character.
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago
@wolfgirl76543 Well, that's some good news...Albeit, I've started to neglect Dragon Age after the Skyrim announcement and I've been playing Oblivion since. =P
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll I'm one of those people that doesnt judge a game till it comes out. I'm looking forword to DA2 and if I'm dissapointed, oh well.
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago
@wolfgirl76543 That's good to hear...the only thing I'm dissapointed about DA2 so far is that I will not have Alistair. =P
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll Lol right? And Zevran~
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago
@wolfgirl76543 Honestly, I didn't take Zevran along very much. =/ I couldn't get past the fact that he wants to kill me. =P
Razylll 1 year ago
@Razylll I adore Zev. Almost everything he says is really funny.
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago
@wolfgirl76543 Zev is gay did you know that?
iLovePCxD 1 year ago
@iLovePCxD He's bisexual.
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago
@iLovePCxD And even if he was just gay, I would still adore him since I don't judge people on their sexuality.
wolfgirl76543 1 year ago 24
@wolfgirl76543 what makes him gay anyway?
crazyjunkey98 7 months ago
@tarded01 i think the best bow is located in the warewolfs ruins, in the dragons den
MrLagvag 1 year ago
marjolaine's bow is the most powerful bow in the game not the ine he mentioned... ryt??? hehehe
KiDaLaTorre 1 year ago
you can get some drake scales getting the urn of sacred ashes...easy quest with 2 mages a rogue and a warrior :P
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PIcKLez9eh4 1 year ago
Were those test characters?
TheXGenki67 1 year ago
one of the only things I totally dislike about this game, not only do they TELL you in a starters guide where to get the best stuff in the game, but this bow, its on the main quest path...you actually have to pass that dragon, to continue... why the F would they put "The best" in such a place? ... I dont get that..
~Jkun~
Jkun 1 year ago
@Jkun because, in all honesty, its not the best. the best is farsong. and if you want farsong, you'll need a pocket as deep as the grand canyon, as almost as wide. very much worth it i hear.
robloxfan459 1 year ago
@robloxfan459
so......they lied when they said "THE" most powerfull bow in the game?
Hmm, now im curious about farsong, lemme check that out xD
~Jkun~
Jkun 1 year ago
best way to use a rouge is to use dual daggers, just put in dex the amount needed for the skills you want and put the rest into cun, you can easily get over 100 damage with each hit with the right setup, also a good armor would be a chest piece that is sold at wades, but you have to finish 3 of the main quests. and best of all when combined with the gloves and boots that you get from wade doing the quest said here, you will stilll get the item set bonus
808gamerhawaii 1 year ago
I never got Dual Striking cause I didn't like the idea of not being able to backstab. But what this guy says, about using it if the enemy is facing you and then turning it off when he's not facing you. I never even considered that but it makes sense.
LobsterFusion 1 year ago
Ok, im making a Striker Rogue, what Specialization Skills should i spend my 2 points on? Im thinking Assassin & Duelist, but im not to sure.
SolidSkillz187 1 year ago
@SolidSkillz187 I'd go with Assassin/Bard, Song of Courage is too good to skip.
Dual daggers + damage runes + Momentum is all you need, you'll end up doing more damage with auto-attacks than with abilities (Dirty Fightning + Riposte are only Talents you should use)... personally I find Dual Wield Warriors more fun to play with all their skillspamming and they require less micromanagement too (and they do surprisingly high DPS too), try both and see which one you like better.
MJ1284 1 year ago
@SolidSkillz187 you have to look at the benifits. assassins have the best ability whenit comes to backstabs, but if that is all you can do, youl find this game a massive blockade for most of the time. duelists can be useful for many things, like dodging away from attacks or destroying groups of enemies. bards are like champions with warrior, they help boost freindly characters effectivness. and finally, rangers can call animal assistance, which can let blood mages drain health from them safely.
robloxfan459 1 year ago
@SolidSkillz187 assassin and duelist. duelist is basicly a extension to the abilities that rogues have in their combat training. assassins increase backstabs.
robloxfan459 1 year ago
helpful and all, but really this game is so hard to get money out of its stupid
SoulSekttor 1 year ago
is this a game developer? is he that fucking stupid to pronounce melee as "me - lee" not "may lay" not impressed.
jakep2007 1 year ago
Hey, I found a Bow that is better then Falon'Din's Reach, It's called Marjolaine's Recurve.
Falon'Din's Reach - +2 Damge + Rapid Aim
Marjolaine's Recurve - +3 Cunning +3 Damage + Rapid Aim.
aercron 1 year ago
@aercron kinda funny how the creator of the game thinks it is the strongest wep , while actualy there are stronger weps than that :P
TheBanned0ne 1 year ago
@TheBanned0ne I mean, I may be wrong, But I found this weapon, with out any DLC's
aercron 1 year ago
@aercron You own character can't use it though, it's Leliana only.
Williamren1 1 year ago
@Williamren1 Yeah, I know but it's still the best bow in the game, Even though your own character can't use it. Still it's technically the best in the game that i've found. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything I'm just saying I found one that is better is all ;D
aercron 1 year ago
@aercron Marjolaine's Recurve is good if you're gonna use Leliana as archer, but Far Song is THE best bow you can get:
+2 damage
Rapid aim
+3% ranged critical chance
+10 attack
+10% critical/backstab damage
Combine that with Aim & Song of Courage and your CUN rogue will do ungodly amount of ranged damage. My char had 45% Crit chance and did 80-110 damage on crit hits... not to mention she also Shattered frozen/petrified enemies :P
MJ1284 1 year ago
@MJ1284 Sweet, I haven't really got that far in the game, or know much about it yet, but Where could you get this bow? :D
aercron 1 year ago
i can help with this. you know owen the blacksmith in redcliffe? he asks you to go find his daughter in the castle. don't find her and tell owen, and he will suicide. later in the game a new merchant will take his place and you can get the far song from him. i think you need to complete 2 treaties first.
RaioneruSol 1 year ago
@RaioneruSol You beat me to it :P
I'm not sure on treaties, but otherwise I can confirm your statement.
Bad news is that the bow costs loads of cash, hench you might wanna stick to Leliana & Marjolaine's Recurve if you're planning to buy other expensive gear.
MJ1284 1 year ago
@RaioneruSol aw man, Fml. I'm a Arcane Warrior, so I went to red cliffe as the first treaty I went to.. Because I wanted the Eamons shield, for the +25 stamina.
Thanks though :D
aercron 1 year ago
@RaioneruSol
Actually i dont think you need to complete the first 2 treaties, u just have to go into the Castle through the Sawmill or w/e.(MAKE SURE YOU DONT OPEN THE CELLER ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF ONE OF THE HALLS) After you get to the part where you have to decide what to do about the Demon Boy,you can just leave the castle and go
to tell Owen you didnt find hr. Then leave Redcliffe and come back. Go to the Blacksmith and there will be a new merchant there.
SolidSkillz187 1 year ago
man rogue ranger is so boring though
masterjim2007 1 year ago
i use daggers as a rouge ( not lame 1 handed swords ) is this bad and shold i switch to 1 handed swords ? or keep dagger , and why
TheBanned0ne 1 year ago
Is their a way to change ur spec without going through all the game files and stuff?
killerkemal68 1 year ago
What about constitution?
BerzerkxBreton 1 year ago
@BerzerkxBreton he sayd that was good for an archer ... dang i screwed it up .. i put some STR , medium DEX and ALOT of constitution because i touhgt a MELEE ROUGE USING daggers like me needed constitution .... can someone please help me , tell me if i scrwed up or did it good , im like lvl 12 and keep hitting 16 and 20
TheBanned0ne 1 year ago
@GunDelight who cares about which bow is better... Maybe it requires less str than the others. Who cares ....
ilovesongsonly 1 year ago
@ilovesongsonly It normally wouldn't if there was barely a difference, but Far Song is significantly better.
GunDelight 1 year ago
when I get the ranger talent if I spawn a wolf,bear etc my game crashes same if morrigan turns into a spider my game crashes why is this?
Danielxxxx23 1 year ago
Oh fk ya! I am making a rogue ranger
ilovesongsonly 1 year ago
Is it possible that at some part of the game you can change your talents that you have already used, and put it in another place?
RollerBall21007 1 year ago
Isnt the Far Song the strongest bow?
Same stats and these bonuses +2 damage
Rapid aim
+3% ranged critical chance
+10 attack
+10% critical/backstab damage
DrakosBain 1 year ago
@DrakosBain Yes, I don't know why he said Falon'Din's Reach bow is the best when Far Song AND some other bows are all better than it.
GunDelight 1 year ago
So how much strenght should a melée spec rogue have? The rogue is going to be dex heavy, about 100+. With may be 40 into cunning. And hoping to use good daggers if I find any. Right now I'm level 7, and what's the level cap? I already have duelist slot open but have not specialized it, hoping to go for assassin specilization since I hear it's more "passive" skill based. Any constructive response form any1 that plays the game would be nice. Thank you.
Raafi1234 1 year ago
@Raafi1234 20 strength max for melee rouge. as you can choose the leathality skills in the rouge skill tree. which allows you to use your cunning score in place of strength for damage out put. mostly put in dex, to bout 36. loads in cunning, get 20 strength by going to mage tower, using the attributes your find in the fade. yea daggers are the best, always go for backstabs, deal major damage. use momentum skill ( super fast attack) and get duelist as soon as for the defence boost
RandomSkipio 1 year ago
anyone know if the dex glitch has been fixed on the consoles? I havent played in a while and havent gotten the latest patches and i thought they said patch 1.02 was supposed to fix it. I was going for a backstaber rogue and initially was going to go all cunning after putting points into dex for talents.
Anyways, has the dex glitch been fixed on consoles? ty in avance.
silentghost23 1 year ago
can u be finess and use meele?
11flameboy 1 year ago
@iorost i dunno dude, from what i've seen, archers are heavy hitters. i thought my dw rogue was good with his best hit being 600dmg, but then i looked at leliana's and i think it was somewhere close to two thousand, so you must be going wrong somewhere. your problem is probably nothing more than your admitted lack of patience. if you stick with it long enough, you'll be a badass, i guarantee it
humdrumfeast 1 year ago
hm... I don't remember neither a dragon in the forest not the bow in her piles of... gold. I remember I used one from the quest where you bring some special wood to a craftsmith in the Elven village.
Ufnym 1 year ago
Marojoline's bow is strongest in the game... For Leliana.
falconbird123456789 1 year ago
Well, I feel retarded, I completely missed the dragon's hoard in the Brecillian ruins.
Linkforlife199 1 year ago
lies, far song is the best bow in origins
StokieStallion 1 year ago
@StokieStallion this is a video from the creatures of origins btw,
limpinkutku 1 year ago
with the drake scales u can always dupe them
dieman482 1 year ago
whats the point of the dagger when duel weapon mastery gives you 2 full handed weapons can rouges only backstab with the dagger?
AGElite87 1 year ago
@AGElite87 Actually, the attack speed for full-sized weapons like longswords is slower than daggers, and unless you have the talent to use Cunning in place of Strength for damage calculations damage will be inferior. Having said that, backstabs CAN be achieved with full-sized weapons like Longswords in my experience, they're just slower.
If you're going powerhouse, dual full-sized weapons is okay, but if you're going traditional Cunning+Dex rogue, only 20 Points of STR is needed.
Foxxie0kun 1 year ago
the best bow is actually Far Song..
PeterRellim 1 year ago
I tried playing rouges first playthrough, got past ostagar and restarted as a warrior.
TCGameGuides 1 year ago
My rogue uses an axe/dagger and has couple de grace, going aftr the line below it aswell for the extra stuns. Howevere I got 2 pts in duels, filled the next line and the line under that. Is that bad or.........plz answer me on channel or by mail, ty
TheGuardianFox 1 year ago
When he's talking about drake armor...
SCREW THE DRAKE ARMOR, GET FELON'S COAT BEFORE YOU GIVE HIM THE SCALES.
Once Wade starts working with drake/dragon scales the shopkeeper will not sell you anything, thus you lose access to some of the better armors of the game.
Moriim13 1 year ago
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Seawk 1 year ago
Hey guys im about to buy the game. Which character type would you suggest me to be?
aedenteguz 1 year ago
Falon'din's Reach is NOT the best weapon in the game. You'd think a DVD that you payed EXTRA money for would at least be accurate.
For anyone who wants to look it up, the best bow is Far Song
Moriim13 1 year ago
my guy has the ranger and assassin specialisations and is kind of a shock troop getting behing foes and summoning a bear
TheJuggernoob 1 year ago
I still think dwarf tanking is the funnest. I'm lvl 22 with 40 str and 70 constitution. Got about 650hp so I can tank out stuff easily on nightmare:) I combo threaten(passive) with taunt, and it works out perfectly
Shadowjustin9 1 year ago
thanks for the tips, so much more complicated to be a rogue than a warrior
roobinatorification 2 years ago 17
wat is the best bow and where do u get it ?
jjb745 2 years ago
The bow you get from the blacksmith in redcliff after owen commits suicide.
Alternative would be "mages eye"(found in Haven in the store)
Maivia987 2 years ago
@jjb745
far song
HylianFury 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Far song is the best bow you noob fat ass guy in the videa...
And its Coup de Grace not coup do gra
Moonface00z 2 years ago
moonface are you talking about the guy in the video ? because the guy in the video is someone who works at bioware ..
So dont be a retard lol !
tsuyagiku 2 years ago 5
and also the reason why he doesnt say all bows is because those bows only get unlocked .. by your decisions unlike felons cote etc or the bow he mentioned so dont be a noob
tsuyagiku 2 years ago
@Moonface00z You do realize "Coup de Grace" is pronounced Coop do grah, right? And for all you know this may be before Far Song was implimented, or he didn't want to give it away.
BebopMagnum7 2 years ago
*cooh de grah
TheGreatMrKite 1 year ago
@Moonface00z Learn to pronounce foreign terms you moron. Just because it's spelled like the English word grace doesn't mean it's pronounced the same.
And it's video not videa.
kurfew007 1 year ago
lol you dumbass don't play bioware games ever again
RaioneruSol 1 year ago
Im making a rogue and i just want to kno which is best to put my points in dex, str, or cun.....also shud i only wield daggers?.....lastly how heavy shud my armor be (chainmail or leather armor)?....What skills too?
akoyisangpinoy01 2 years ago
I have a few tips for you.. if you wanna get high damage thwen you should put points in little dex and high cun and if you want high def and attack rates (attack rate= attack speed) then put dex and little cunning no need for strength. Or maybe sum strenght for gear but not much
ottohockey 2 years ago
@akoyisangpinoy01
Put everything into Cunning and enough Dex (hard points) for talents. Gear dex requirement can be reached by hard points + equipment bonus (wherein as talents need hard points only). Enough strength + equipment bonus for equipments. Always wear light armor if you are not tanking so you don't get fatigue. Run Bard as one of your specialization and run Song of Courage, which feeds your Cunning score directly into bonus damage. Make sure you get Lethality too, obviously.
AuraofMana 1 year ago
why does it seem they dont know shit? Dual striking? Get Coup the grace, stun em and you get backstabs either way, then just move behind em, done deal.
Direksone 2 years ago
no the spear thrower is the best....
KillingAzn 2 years ago
no its not mages eye does more dmg so does falon din
ProGamer845 2 years ago
falon'din is not the best bow in the game
Spiderpig678 2 years ago
i got the drake armor
my rougue is actually a cunning-dex-stre person
i basically use dirty fighting then i use flurry,powerhouse,then riposte
they have to chance to fight back when they are stunned
oh and if u are a strenght person go to the bracillian forest and complete the wizard's hidden objects
the armor is good in the beginning because its 25 res to all elements if u have it all,its armor is really impressive but the fatigue is pretty high
I would recommend it for the strongest
Str1k3Term 2 years ago
thanks for the tips
cnwhite2 2 years ago
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ibclappin 2 years ago
WTF? thats so imba
axe636 2 years ago
@axe636 what's imba?
ibclappin 1 year ago
Imbalanced :D
axe636 1 year ago
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ibclappin 2 years ago
i talk too much but i gotta say this: far song is the best bow. during the castle redcliff quest promise to find owen's daughter, valena. do not rescue her on purpose. after you're in the castle and choosing what to do with connor, before you kill the demon and rescue connor go tell owen you couldn't find valena. leave redcliff and come back. owen will have committed suicide and the new merchant will have far song.
ibclappin 2 years ago
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ibclappin 2 years ago
I have a bug at this game:
the players can't automaticaly attack, besides Morgan and I have to click over and over again, and this with just one caracter
please help!
kangurya 2 years ago
I have found this to be a problem with DA. Sometimes the guys just wont attack on there own.
If all of his skills are stamina based and he is out of stamina, he may not attack.
I would assume that if you reboot your pc or restart the game a couple of times he may come out of it.
Be sure your tactics are set correctly. I have a how to video covering that.
I hope this answered your question.
Giantbomb has a great DA forum btw.
MicroWare1 2 years ago
@MicroWare1 just put the tactics like this PC: enemy->nearest->attack REST:enemy->nearest->attack(or enemy->target of->PC->attack)
Kallianification 1 year ago
awe jesus. you have 'hold position' on.
from my experience sometimes when everyone is attacking one enemy (allies + other friendlies) a couple of characters might stop attacking but that's not what this is.
ibclappin 2 years ago
hahaha.... your so funny
well NO!!! I didn't had "H" on
kangurya 2 years ago
@kangurya Are you sure you set 'Attack - Nearest Enemy' in you Tactics Slots for everyone? That might be the reason if you haven't.
ResidentPoo 1 year ago
@kangurya
your team position must be on hold so they dont move to attack.. change it to move freely and it should work
meribund 1 year ago
@kangurya I had this issue, turned out it was my tactics. The posture and abilities I had selected told my toons to not do anything if their tactics didn't apply. Adjusted them all and they are fine. Set their posture to aggressive or ranged and they'll get into the fight without you micro-managing their every move. Hope it helps
jatkins78 1 year ago
@kangurya
This is not the game's fault. You're not setting up your party members' tactics correctly. Unless you set their behavior to aggressive for melee characters or ranged for archers and mages your party members will not attack unless you give them orders to do so.
TrojanMike60 1 year ago
Thats Not The Best Bow In The Game. Get SteelBark Or W.e Its Called For The Elf That Does the Smithing In The Forest And Pick The Bow Its Way Better, n theres better bows than that one too, this man doesnt know what he is talking about lol
sorebum1 2 years ago
where is the bow?? i'm in a cave with those dragons in please help. PM if you don't wish to tell others. Thanks.
Dindondidle 2 years ago
in a gameplay video i saw a rogue sprinting , how can i do that ?
kaandereli007 2 years ago
All the controls are in your manual. Page 6,7 of your pc manual. These should also be listed through your in game menu.
It may be "/ (num pad).
MicroWare1 2 years ago