i absolutely love the game. i managed to get it this morning without cost from mw2forfreeSinfo (replace S with .) and put to use the money i ended up saving to buy a brand new far better mouse. i believe im not bad however mainly thanks to the mouse i bought
If this mission happened in America two things would happen. This game would be banned and two the swat would have killed them with ease. Another thing i thought russians were tough all they do is run away'
When i first played this mission, i didn't know it was coming, heard nothing about it, and when the elevator door opened up... i was like you gotta be kidding me, they put this in here? is it a trick? so i shoot the other terrorists first, didn't work, so then i'm like oh well fuck it time to blast away. If anything afterwards it was just a reminder of the dangers of terrorism.
Well, that's fuckdickulous. Videogame logic, and here they're pretending that videogames have become legitimate works of art like movies.
Not yet.
It makes no sense whatsoever that you can't do the right thing and intercede and try to save the innocent civilians. To me, THAT'S why this is disgusting.
Do not lie to yourself and say it dosent. Yes the scene is bad which is why they give you the option to skip it but this is the climatic part of the storyline.
You know why? Because when you are sitting RIGHT THERE with Osama Bin Ladensky, you can shoot him in the head in an attempt to end the terror. But what happens? Instead of falling over dead with half his skull missing, he turns around and yells TRAITOR!
That's the problem with this scene: videogame logic kills any chance that I could take you serious when you try to use literary terms to describe it.
@Fernt dude... it's to keep the story. If you kill Makarov, there's no Modern Warfare 2, as Makarov's plan is to kill you to make the Russians think that Americans caused the attack. (You are an American in this mission)
@lolag3r3r Since that comment I've played the game and discovered that this is indeed a completely stupid and contrived plot device. No american would ever go undercover and actually commit an atrocity like this if his aim was to catch this guy. He'd just blow his brains out. totally stupid writing.
Still a great game, but it kills the argument that storytelling in videogames is on par with any other medium.
@Fernt but you know.. the plot also states something. That there are also traitors. you know, Shepherd was one .. so ... it's kinda understandable. Like.. to depict the cruelty of mankind.
@Fernt nope .. but remember who sends him? Shepherd? .. he convinces Allen (the player character) to do such actions and convinces him that it'll have a very good result despite the losses.
@lolag3r3r is that supported by dialog or is it something you made up? I don't remember anything about shepherd convincing the player to murder civilians.
@lolag3r3r I just re-watched it. SHepherd never says "make sure you murder all those civilians."
See, here's my problem with this. There's no reason not to simply kill makarov, in the briefing or otherwise.You try to and it says "You blew your cover!" or some shit. So what if you blew your cover? if makarov is dead the mission should be considered a success.
Unfortunately what we have here is a conjunction of bad videogame logic and bad b-movie scriptwriting logic. None of it adds up right.
@lolag3r3r And you know what? They could have easily fixed it by simply having shepherd explain why it was important that you maintain cover and not simply assassinate makarov.
That's what you call a "plot hole," and it's a huge gaping one you could fly an AC130 through.
@Fernt because obviously,shepherd also told him not to do so.. as he was using Allen as a "scapegoat" so the Russians thought that Americans did it. And Allen, well.. he just didn't questioned and thought that was necessary.
why don't all you pussies just agree on the fact that all shooter games are bad for you in general. of course this is a twisted mission, but you have the option of skipping it or just walking alongside makarov without firing a round. A death is a death, its only opinion that causes all of us to think differently.
i love that mission so much...i kno i sound like an terrorist but you gotta admit you look when u walk slowly like that and it is awesome and fun!!!!!!!
ffs censorship bullshit... this scene is nothing more than an eye opener. but i have to say, first time i saw it i had to get the game... what can I say, controversy sells :P
WOW!! 0.0 i herd that this game was going to get baned from this but i tink its beautiful in a way its art of war hehe it shows wats goin on in the world dont havethe game yet just teasing my self tonight and ya it was kinda said old people and even "KIDS" like wtf but you know its war you dont see them flipin coins 2 see who wins or rock , paper , sizers lol well i think it was kinda sick but in the good way
ya exactly it shows what happens in war and it is Art, I am waiting for a world war 2 game where you get to storm a jewish town and massacre civilians. they could use the same concept a US spy infiltrates the SS. i know u would dig it the more than me. Maybe u could play it to some heavy metal hell ya go art.
wow, thats the most brutal thing ive ever seen in a video game....thats just plain morbid. I understand why they put it in there though...this is probably the only game that will make me think about killing npc code controlled polygonal models.
Dude...there was kids and old women in that crowd. Not to mention the people screaming and crying for their lives. This sence in worse then gta but the game isnt.
You seriously believe that just because you "Fucked" the person b4 you kill them it makes it worse? 1 dead hooker is worse then a couple hundred men, women, and children?
What i hate is how people always compare this to gta . In GTA you know you are a bad guy you know where you stand your job is too pick up hooker and kill its all cliche. In this game you are an army ranger who takes part in a covert mission which involves terrorism on a foreign land and the massacre of 100's of civilians. which inturn leads to world war 3. HMMMMm great plot for a game makes me feel good about modern warfar.
YEEEH RAWRRR!!!!!! OWN THEM PIXELATED CIVILIAN MOTHERFUCKERS!! RAWR
Epiiiiiiiiiiic 3 months ago
tourism in Russia plummets
UnstableUranium 4 months ago
this scene was pretty horific...
Pepsimaximo1 10 months ago
This mah favorite mission all u do is kill innocent people :P
BRBSHUTUPNOOB 1 year ago
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i absolutely love the game. i managed to get it this morning without cost from mw2forfreeSinfo (replace S with .) and put to use the money i ended up saving to buy a brand new far better mouse. i believe im not bad however mainly thanks to the mouse i bought
charlottemcgonag 1 year ago
Soap killing Zakahev, Sheppard, and Makarov I like the way you think bigturd45
TheShwa10210 1 year ago
If this mission happened in America two things would happen. This game would be banned and two the swat would have killed them with ease. Another thing i thought russians were tough all they do is run away'
TheShwa10210 1 year ago
good killing!!
thestephen111000 1 year ago
When i first played this mission, i didn't know it was coming, heard nothing about it, and when the elevator door opened up... i was like you gotta be kidding me, they put this in here? is it a trick? so i shoot the other terrorists first, didn't work, so then i'm like oh well fuck it time to blast away. If anything afterwards it was just a reminder of the dangers of terrorism.
GhostInTheShell29 1 year ago
No Russian. He looks straight at you when he says this. That tells you right there he knows. Run like fuck.....
poplglop 2 years ago
check my channel for montage or /watch?v=au2wSiQyAxE
18810824 2 years ago
this mission was intended to be cut out like in every other country this game was released at
35chris3 2 years ago
hopfully makarov dies next mw
bigturd45 2 years ago
Well, that's fuckdickulous. Videogame logic, and here they're pretending that videogames have become legitimate works of art like movies.
Not yet.
It makes no sense whatsoever that you can't do the right thing and intercede and try to save the innocent civilians. To me, THAT'S why this is disgusting.
Fernt 2 years ago
but it plays out into the plot.
Does this now happen everyday in the world.
Do not lie to yourself and say it dosent. Yes the scene is bad which is why they give you the option to skip it but this is the climatic part of the storyline.
KeepsThePipe 2 years ago
Since I made that comment I've played the game.
No, it does not happen in real life. EVER.
You know why? Because when you are sitting RIGHT THERE with Osama Bin Ladensky, you can shoot him in the head in an attempt to end the terror. But what happens? Instead of falling over dead with half his skull missing, he turns around and yells TRAITOR!
That's the problem with this scene: videogame logic kills any chance that I could take you serious when you try to use literary terms to describe it.
Fernt 2 years ago
Reason why he dosent kill him cause they were looking for some sort of proof on what this Character was capable of doing.
And if you dont believe it happens then your just blind. This world isnt all nice and civilized.
KeepsThePipe 2 years ago
I know the world isn't all nice and civilized.
I just don't think there are invincible terrorists out there you can shoot 100 times in the brain without killing, that's all.
You obviously either didn't even read my comment before you replied to it. If you're not going to do that, don't even bother responding.
Fernt 2 years ago
@Fernt dude... it's to keep the story. If you kill Makarov, there's no Modern Warfare 2, as Makarov's plan is to kill you to make the Russians think that Americans caused the attack. (You are an American in this mission)
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r Since that comment I've played the game and discovered that this is indeed a completely stupid and contrived plot device. No american would ever go undercover and actually commit an atrocity like this if his aim was to catch this guy. He'd just blow his brains out. totally stupid writing.
Still a great game, but it kills the argument that storytelling in videogames is on par with any other medium.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt but you know.. the plot also states something. That there are also traitors. you know, Shepherd was one .. so ... it's kinda understandable. Like.. to depict the cruelty of mankind.
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r Are you suggesting that the player character is a traitor? That's not shown in the story.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt nope .. but remember who sends him? Shepherd? .. he convinces Allen (the player character) to do such actions and convinces him that it'll have a very good result despite the losses.
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r is that supported by dialog or is it something you made up? I don't remember anything about shepherd convincing the player to murder civilians.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt yup.. right in the beginning of the mission :P
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r I just re-watched it. SHepherd never says "make sure you murder all those civilians."
See, here's my problem with this. There's no reason not to simply kill makarov, in the briefing or otherwise.You try to and it says "You blew your cover!" or some shit. So what if you blew your cover? if makarov is dead the mission should be considered a success.
Unfortunately what we have here is a conjunction of bad videogame logic and bad b-movie scriptwriting logic. None of it adds up right.
Fernt 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r And you know what? They could have easily fixed it by simply having shepherd explain why it was important that you maintain cover and not simply assassinate makarov.
That's what you call a "plot hole," and it's a huge gaping one you could fly an AC130 through.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt actually ... you don't have to kill them... Makarov does that by himself. :3
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r you do have to fight the coppers though.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt yeah xD that's pretty logical unless you're completely suicidal or emo xD
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r Or if you're not aiding terrorists for completely inexplicable reasons
Fernt 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r from what I remember, it's the CIA that sends allen, not shepherd
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt dude, Shepherd created that plan to recover his reputation because of his 30,000 men lost in the nuke in CoD4
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r Fine, putting aside for a second why an army general is running a CIA mission, I get shepherd's motivation in this plan.
I just don't get why the player character can't assassinate or help apprehend a terrorist mastermind given such a golden opportunity.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt because obviously,shepherd also told him not to do so.. as he was using Allen as a "scapegoat" so the Russians thought that Americans did it. And Allen, well.. he just didn't questioned and thought that was necessary.
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r Do you really find that to be a plausible scenario? I don't.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt nah .. but it's a game -.- so .. I don't really care if its possible or not. It can have fairies for all I care -.-
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
@lolag3r3r Haha! True enough.
Fernt 1 year ago
@Fernt hahaha :P anyways... I also think this won't happen in real life :P .. but you know, human minds are.. STRANGE xD .. so .. who knows.. O_o
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
why don't all you pussies just agree on the fact that all shooter games are bad for you in general. of course this is a twisted mission, but you have the option of skipping it or just walking alongside makarov without firing a round. A death is a death, its only opinion that causes all of us to think differently.
Ugazful 2 years ago
@Ugazful damn agree with that.... :) this assholes think their opinion is the correct one -.-
lolag3r3r 1 year ago
i Lol'd....am i a bad person :(
DrkVrtx 2 years ago
no just a video game but if it was real then yeah
MENKO43 2 years ago
LOVED THE MISSION
cramayel77 2 years ago
thats just wrong music is tight though
tajahksmith07 2 years ago 2
Hate That Mission
gforce0097 2 years ago 2
Cool
jugclown 2 years ago
i like this mission alot but why couldnt we just kill makarov right there
bearsfan2123 2 years ago
lol to look gangster!
loststarfleet1997 2 years ago
i love that mission so much...i kno i sound like an terrorist but you gotta admit you look when u walk slowly like that and it is awesome and fun!!!!!!!
loststarfleet1997 2 years ago
ruthless
Ravencealot5 2 years ago
Horrible.
kensei85 2 years ago
lol
ZHILIKESTURTLES 2 years ago 2
Scene is horrible. Nuff said.
YewFlamer 2 years ago
Very good game but this scene is awful.
tzimamas 2 years ago
ffs censorship bullshit... this scene is nothing more than an eye opener. but i have to say, first time i saw it i had to get the game... what can I say, controversy sells :P
Nobblesnibblenut 2 years ago 2
Friendly fire will not be tolerated!!
onebadsarge 2 years ago
WOW!! 0.0 i herd that this game was going to get baned from this but i tink its beautiful in a way its art of war hehe it shows wats goin on in the world dont havethe game yet just teasing my self tonight and ya it was kinda said old people and even "KIDS" like wtf but you know its war you dont see them flipin coins 2 see who wins or rock , paper , sizers lol well i think it was kinda sick but in the good way
qwerbear123456789 2 years ago
ya exactly it shows what happens in war and it is Art, I am waiting for a world war 2 game where you get to storm a jewish town and massacre civilians. they could use the same concept a US spy infiltrates the SS. i know u would dig it the more than me. Maybe u could play it to some heavy metal hell ya go art.
OrganicThumb420 2 years ago
wow, thats the most brutal thing ive ever seen in a video game....thats just plain morbid. I understand why they put it in there though...this is probably the only game that will make me think about killing npc code controlled polygonal models.
setzaroth 2 years ago
I thought it put a lot of things into perspective. That would most likely cause a world war. GTA is worse.
NATET1SBC2 2 years ago
Dude...there was kids and old women in that crowd. Not to mention the people screaming and crying for their lives. This sence in worse then gta but the game isnt.
gorillailla202 2 years ago
Ya but I did not pick up a hooker in the airport, then have my way with her, then kill her. I just killed her.
NATET1SBC2 2 years ago
You seriously believe that just because you "Fucked" the person b4 you kill them it makes it worse? 1 dead hooker is worse then a couple hundred men, women, and children?
gorillailla202 2 years ago
What i hate is how people always compare this to gta . In GTA you know you are a bad guy you know where you stand your job is too pick up hooker and kill its all cliche. In this game you are an army ranger who takes part in a covert mission which involves terrorism on a foreign land and the massacre of 100's of civilians. which inturn leads to world war 3. HMMMMm great plot for a game makes me feel good about modern warfar.
OrganicThumb420 2 years ago 2
Wait, are you agreeing with me or disagreein?
gorillailla202 2 years ago