If you seriously think that 'god is love' then you need to read your bible.
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
With regard to the WBC - Don't shoot the messenger!
Phil - it would have been awesome at the point when u were talking about knowledge replacing fear... to edit in a clip of Kevin Richardson playing with lions.
Phil. This remains my favorite of your videos. I like your "understanding" rids us of the "fear" plot twist. Using the image of the lion too as a " primal fear" got me thinking of Kevin Richardson. He has a total "understanding" of lion behavior and as effect can do what he does. Just thought i would pass that along. Dont know why. lol Have you seen the videos on him? Check out Kevin Richardson Lion Whisperer
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with complete support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Not bad at all. I am religious and yet I appreciate the qualities of this video. The logic has one major flaw though: Understanding more how the material world works does not disprove the existence of God. Quite the opposite in fact if you research the topic of intelligent design. Moreover, the miracle of existence and the meaning of existence will always be at the heart of our human quest and can't be explained by world mechanics.
@ozcolas The nature of biology destroys all claims to intelligent design. The brainless strict adherence to a nested hierarchy is anything but intelligent. It's quite mindless and it shows. The opportunity to copy good designs to replace bad ones never occurs because species boundaries are what they are. GM can copy Ford's widget, but our genome will never acquire the benefit of the octopus's eye design. The absolute lack of ANY cross-species access to solutions is strong evidence for evolution.
@ozcolas Intelligent design doesn't hold any water when compared to the wishes of the god of monotheism. The god of the bible wants each man and woman to breed exclusively with each other. If that was the plan then why don't men produce one sperm a month in harmony with the female? If god wants that there is no reason for men to be able to breed at a faster rate. If god hates homosexuality then why is it possible at all? Omnipotence means god is not obligated to create anything he doesn't want.
pretty good. i welcome comments on my "what i is" vid; please read the intro below the vid before commenting to get the "spirit" in which it is presented
@snazzytazzanna67 Who said anything along the lines of "we are our own creators"? We were "created", in the most obvious sense, by our parents. They were created by their parents, and so on, until you get to the original organisms, which were created via electrostatic interactions among the materials of the highly volatile early Earth. There is no need for the supernatural. Your fear, your plea to "watch out", provides a stellar example of the phenomenon addressed in this video.
@snazzytazzanna67 Shortly after the earth's formation, the highly electrostatic environment with water and the molecules necessary were all the ingredients needed for abiogenesis to take part. Abiogenesis is in brief the process in which self-replicating molecules form. By many processes including natural selection and ALOT of time, those molecules grew in complexity and evolved to today's forms. This comment box is too short to go into details but yeah, we know very well NO god created humanity
It is true that people turn to God OFTEN when they are afraid of something. Question is, what is so malicious, and deceiving about that? And if God shakes us up a bit every so often to bring us to our senses, again, what is that if not true love? Seems to me we want God to fit our little world of fantasies, our everything goes mentality, which caters to our convenient lives and helps us avoid the poor and less fortunate.
From what I understand, it was the early pre-hominid's vision that also played a big factor. Humans are actually on the better side of vision insofar as the animal kingdom is concerned.
@SephieRothe We also have fairly descent eyesight. We have better color vision than most, and great visual processing. Unfortunately color vision doesn't matter at night.
@SephieRothe we have more sweat glands than most animals and can thermoregulate better for it, which means we have much greater stamina, which means we can outrun almost anything distance wise, even horses. This was our method of hunting for millennia, to simply chase animals till they collapsed from exhaustion and overheating... it still is in some parts of the world.
Alright I'll admit, the comment I posted about animal love is invalid. Whether or not I was correct I'm not able to back up my point well and so I can't really defend myself. That still doesn't hinder my point about the bacterium though. Someone please answer that question if u can.
-Also the reason metallica is my username is because I used to like them before I really came to god but I have that username for pretty much anything so I don't really want to change it.
i welcome death and do not fear it anymore,i think that fear does nothing but hinder learning, for you might be afraid of what you find might crush the ego that told you the answer you chose was right,and that there are always possibilities beyond what you thought you know,death might be the one time you truley get rest from the daunting task of lying awake most of the night trying to figure who what when where and why you are!!!
You make brilliant movies. I keep thinking that the videos I have not yet seen can't be nearly as good as the ones I have seen, but I'm consistently proven wrong.
In the minds of people who have to rely on a pre-science explanation for the terror they feel at the thought that life has only one purpose and that that is the habitual continuation and progress of life and the evolution of form.
To some people the thought of being responsible for giving their own life a larger and more personal purpose, must be absolutely paralyzing.
For others, god has become a pair of shoes that no longer fit, and no longer keep stride.
When you can demonstrate that forces that are uniformly understood, and operate within the constraints of laws which have no more intelligence than water flowing downhill...
When you can demonstrate that there is a guided purpose in the dissipation of heat...
Then a 2000 year old tabloid might be relevant again.
Till then I prefer to get my information on the nature of reality from more recent publications.
Thing is, I'm not talking about primates, apes, us or anything else!!!! I'm talking about the first living thing to ever be!!!! That book doesn't have to do with that.
@metallica4169 I don't think anyone assumes the spark of life was the result of a solitary single-cell organism coming from a lightning strike with perfect DNA.
It's likely the conditions for amino acids and DNA to form naturally existed in several places in massive liquid brews, with millions of potential DNA strands forming. Of all that DNA without purpose, one likely scraped through and became something that worked. And then it multiplied, with thousands of mutations, growing and changing.
I sometimes despair at the argument that, "life began in ocean vents, no, it began in catalytic clay, in beach sand, tidal pools, etc."
Knowing what we know about the diverse conditions in which life can evolve, the probability seems very high to me that it originated under every condition that was favorable to it where the precursors weren't eaten by something that had already developed. Even being eaten in some cases, may have combined two precursor structures.
@DeathofSpeech: Watching science happen, like watching sausage being made, can sometimes be an unpleasant occupation. I don't imagine that writing Principia was always easy going, Newton wasn't able to open up another window on his scroll and look up the formula for the area of an ellipse segment. Lots of mini-theories, lots of argument, lots of ego.
1st of all I'm not a troll, I only said that cuz I know no one can answer it. Also, no I'm not saying you have to be told over and over again, I'm saying u need to be told once them u learn how to do it and that's that. How would u know to do anything without learning how to do it? You might say trial and error but then if that bacterium makes the error there goes all of life forever as we know it. Seems pretty dicey to me.
But a machine must be programmed in order to function. How can something made of any part or parts know what to do unless it has been told how? If it has nothing before to base it's actions off of, then how does it know?
Actually, you're wrong in assuming that none can answer your question.
...the answer is, it doesn't know.
Snowflakes show structure and symmetry yet are not designed and the same forces that define that structure construct organic molecules from simple compounds... and increase their complexity... and those same forces continue to produce random errors in DNA... and competition between life forms makes being smarter than shit trying to eat you an advantage in not being lunch
So how did this neurochemistry get there? Did we evolve it over time and chance? How can our minds or even our subconscious get us to do something that we don't know we need to do? Unless of course we have been intelligently designed that way... But that's just for illiterate idiots that aren't smart enough to know better isn't it?
@metallica4169: A rather flip but valid answer is that that is what random mutation does so well. It branches out, trying things, most of which are useless or even detrimental. Occasionally one goes off in a direction that actually helps the species, and if the change is lucky, it gets propagated to all, which then await the next positive movement. No conscious thought, no goal, just getting along in the environment. ...
... So, some mutation changed something else into a sodium pump, and an electric current down a cell wall became possible. Some random thing triggered it periodically, and muscle cells changed so that it could trigger them into movement. Step by step (in something like a cnidarian) was the first primitive use; later bells and whistles were added to make it work better, more reliably, and to add non-random triggering.
... So, some mutation changed something else into a sodium pump, and an electric current down a cell wall became possible. Some random thing triggered it periodically, and muscle cells changed so that it could trigger them into movement. Step by step (in something like a cnidarian) was the first primitive use; later bells and whistles were added to make it work better, more reliably, and to add non-random triggering.
Question 2: go back to the very beginning of life. The first organism ever- bacteria amoeba whatever, how did it know it NEEDED to reproduce? It can't think it has no brain. There is nothing before it to base it's actions off or any instincts it may have. There is no reason for it to reproduce because it doesn't even no it will die it has no comprehension of death. If u think it's just chance then it seems like ur putting a lot of faith in chance which isn't that the opposite of atheism? Hmmm.
@metallica4169 Bacteria don't reproduce in the same fashion as more complex organisms. In fact, the earliest single-celled organisms did not exhibit descent as we understand it. But that's besides the point. For complex, multicellular organisms, the motive is purely biological, a motive that arises without any conscious thought thanks to the wonderful world of neurochemistry. For bacteria, osmosis seems to be a natural response to cellular development, occurring whenever circumstances allow
@metallica4169 First of all every biologist makes it clear evolution isn’t chance, but that’s a different issue. As for knowing it must reproduce I think Gillies Deleuze put it best. Basically every living thing is a machine, its parts serve a function thus it will perform those functions. A baby doesn’t drink the milk from tis mother because it wants to or knows it has to, it does it because it must, that is one of the functions the child was born with. Thats the "basic" idea.
Actually merciless I have owned pets my whole life and I currently have 2 dogs and 2 cats. I know it may seem like they love u but they only show affection toward u because u give them something back. They may act like they love u when the cuddle up and let you pet them but they only allow this because they trust you and know u will not Hurt them when they let their guard down it makes them feel good as does it make you but they are only partaking in a give take relationship, nothing more.
@metallica4169 Humans only love, because you give them something back. Your argument applies to humans 100%. Or, why do so many people break up because of alcoholism or accident where other person gets paralysed? You always need get something back to love.
It is also proven in many researches, that animals have feelings just like humans do.
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If we truly evolved from monkeys or whatever, where did we get our morals from? Animals don't have love for one another they don't feel regret or remorse for actions. How did we come to the conclusion that killing is bad? In the animal kingdom it's the opposite because you are securing your place in the area or pack. How could we learn these things unless something told us...
@metallica4169 You could answer your own questions by doing your own research. Why ask others to do it for you when you will not believe what they say?
The theory isn't that we evolved from monkeys, it's that we share a common ancestor. We get our morality from the same place we got out intelligence. Our world is intelligent, no doubting that, but it's not because it originates from what you consider to be "god". We are a symptom of the universe, like an apple that grows off a tree when the tree is fully grown. We get our morality from experience,emotions, empathy, and the realization that having morality is beneficial.
@metallica4169 "Animals don't have love for one another they don't feel regret or remorse for actions."
Okay, that is just flat a STUPID-ASS thing to say. You clearly spend more time EATING animals than in studying them, to say something so moronic. Anyone who's ever owned a pet, even, knows that a statement like this is just full of shit. Next time try letting the clutch out on your BRAIN before you put your MOUTH in gear, bozo...
@metallica4169 There is no such thing as morals, not really. Morals are a human invention rather like time, the world does not understand time or morals in the same ways we understand it. People create their own morals based on what is deemed to be acceptable by the community around them. Look at people from around the world or even from richer or poorer places where you live, people have different morals due to their environment. Animals might have morals to just not ones we understand.
@metallica4169 Franz DeWaal 'Our Inner Ape'. Its short the language is accessible and it explains how traits conducive to cooperation gain selective advantage in primate groups.
But then you weren't really looking for an answer to those questions anymore than you are likely to read the book or any book dealing with the subject.
How do you know animals feel no love for one another? Were you once a dog in a past life, or are you under the assumption that animals are so different and inferior that they cannot feel like we do?
What we call love, I imagine animals have it. But for their own species only, out of necessity of survival.
Social animals of our caliber, we can reason. We are designed to care for each other. We have emotions so we can sympathize with and help other humans.
@metallica4169 Morals, in the end, are based entirely on our social nature. Likely we DID kill, and still do, if it is advantageous to us. But intelligence makes us question, and we can ask others by using language. We decided it was bad to kill each other, because we are stronger in numbers, and our sympathetic triggers urge us to value lives of our own species and our own families. Language further strengthens bonding. Safety and intelligence allows introspection. Morals come from necessity.
@metallica4169 Imagine you're in a group. Beingmany, makes it easier to hunt for food. Naturally, you conclude that you'd better not kill your ally, as you yourself don't want to get killed. We see that in the animal kingdom too. Some animals lives in groups and don't kills each other if they are part of the same group. You can just extend that principe to a modern society.
@metallica4169 .......a) we didn't evolve from monkeys, monkeys and ourselves both followed different evolutionary paths from a common ancestor, so at least make an effort to understand the funadmentals of evolution before opening your mouth and b) another startling difference between us and the rest of the animal kingdom is self awareness, consciousness.....I would say that would have a lot to do with it would it not?
@metallica4169 ill reply if you dont mind,to say a animal doesnt love look at dogs,they take to other dogs and seem to grieve when the dog dies or is missing or they can love humans,look at a dog owner who is slaped by someone and the dog comes to their rescue,is that not a type of love or care,if an animal can feel pain its unfair to say they dont love,now they might be missing a strand of dna or a gene that gives certain human emotion but doesnt mean they have none,maybe just different than us
@metallica4169 animals do have love for one and other just like we do i can prove that to you a million times over. animals have feelings dude stop being ignorant. it is a fact they do
@metallica4169 I can surely tell you that many humans don't regret or remorse for actions, look at the "wonderful" christianity. How many people does your god kill in your fairy tale book? more than 2 million without counting all the people in the earth when noah's ark. I would NEVER worship that imaginary being just because a book tells me so, because there is NO EVIDENCE.
@sultany2 I think we can make our way and we can give meaning to our live. Just because I don't know all the answers I'm not going to place a god/goddess in it's place. I don't know about you, but thinking that my sole purpose in life is to praise and worship a god that will reward me with a heaven where I will worship him eternally is HORRIBLE. I think I'd rather go to your christian hell. THE PARTY IS DOWNSTAIRS WITH THE THINKERS, SCIENTISTS AND NOT BRAINWASHED PEOPLE! :D
@sultany2 "I also do that, it's one of my goals in life, BUT what is your goals after life?" As of right now with no known afterlife, I plan to have my ashes shot into the Sun's corona
"is death suppose to be the end?" Looks that way
"what will happen to our souls after death?" We don't know if we have a soul
"If you think the meaning of life is to enjoy it, so why do we die eventually?" So why can't biological systems continue on? Above my pay grade
There is no after life, when your dead your dead , that's it game over. Why do we die ? because we are an animal just like any other that's why. Man is not special, we are not the chosen ones etc. We just happen to be the dominate animal on this planet at this time.
@sultany2 It sounds like your belief is based on the fear of death. You're stuck on what happens after you die. Well what if nothing happens? Believing in a God because you don't WANT there to be nothing after death isn't rational.
I mean, I want to be able to fly but that doesn't mean I can.
I can see that you don't care if your beliefs are true a long as they comfort you. The great thinkers of this world DO care about truth though and it's a good thing or else we'd still be living in caves.
simple we made them ourselves. No god just men and woman learning over time that killing another harms yourself as they is no one to watch your back. Its the same with all our morals.
@metallica4169 Actually we do our get our morals from animals and our evolution. Animals do have love for one another and they do feel regret, If they betray or mistreat the tribe or group etc often they are expelled and forced to live alone. Evolution doesnt mean humans came from monkeys, it means everything came from simpler forms of life. Do you seriously think that civilization got this far under the impression it was okay to kill and rape and destroy eachother?
@metallica4169 Metallica thinks he/she is making a point by asking these questions. Whatever answer you give, they will just deny. Phil is right, go research it yourself.
I would like to see more rationalists refuse to engage in bickering over Youtube about facts about our origins. Instead, ask the pious to educate themselves. If they don't, they will continue to be the ones left out of the dark about the true nature of our reality.
@metallica4169 Yeah I guess we got our morals from the god of the Torah/Bible/Quran who ordered and committed genocide, infanticide, rape, incest, slavery ... etc. over and over.
@metallica4169 Well our bodies are evolved from a common ancestor with the apes, but where do we get our morals from? From out of consciousness, which if you see as the ground of being as opposed to matter, then you will realize why!
The compacted mass of the Physical Universe would fit in a large box.
If you believe in God, believe in evolution too, since it glorifies God!
@metallica4169 You see, animals have feelings and they DO love each other.
And we do kill others. You kill animals for meat. "THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING!!!11!!"
Yes it is.. Killing OTHER animals for meat just like any other animal. When's the last time when you saw an animal kill one of its own species without humans encouraging them to do it? Not recently anyway. It does happen though, also in humans. Humans sometimes murder each other.
Look to the gorillas, they live in small groups that help each other out, they learned that more beings means a safer environment, Gaining sentience (I think, therefor I am) through the need for communication and understanding of spoken/written word made us understand that others feel pain, just as we do. My morals are based on this, I don't wish to feel pain or loss, and I believe you wouldn't either, so I won't be a cause of pain or loss, for you, so that you won't, for me.
If you have ever read the bible you would realize we didn't get out morals from it.The LORD said: "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, INFANT and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
Although, you didn't touch on it, but I thought when you said humans get look to the sky to get our answers, we really just look up. In times past, when we still lived in trees, what was up? Safety. The higher you could get, the safer you were. The most knowledgeable climbers would be highest, and so the lower, less skilled climbers literally would look up to them for answers.
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I serve God not out of fear but out of pure love. I'm not afraid of hell nor am I serving God to escape hell. When i became a christian i just felt like a load of mess just fell off me and i felt complete assurance, all my worries and all my sins and guilt felt like they were just being taken off of me
I can understand someone’s personal belief if they feel it truly helps them and makes them a better person.
I am glad you have found this for yourself. I do have a problem when people try to convert others simply because it may work for them, and makes them feel good. I’m not saying that is what you are doing. Just saying. I had just the opposite experience myself. I feel I have become a much better person without belief in gods. But that is me. To each there own.
i love that at exactly the point, it is said, "And the sky was full of gods, but which of the gods needed to be appeased?" The sun or moon is actually answering your question. The star of King David is only associated with the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, it is a symbol of Israel. Science was created by God and how ironic that even in this, your message is about fear, and the Bible tells us 365 times specifically, "FEAR NOT!" All respect! Very good video! Shalom in Yeshua! Omein!
You did a fantastic job on this video. And you're reasonably close to what happened to us.
Our cro-magnon ancestors went to the brink of extinction, which was when human intelligence as we know it today evolved. Apparently, small populations lend themselves to rapid evolution.
Our neanderthal cousins did not survive, curiously, even though their bones were thicker and heavier, and their strength much greater.
"It's one thing to think that there are monsters under your bed. It's another thing to have parents who think that they can see them too."
That pretty much sums up my childhood. Not just that my mother is a Theist--but that she's the New Age, "negative energy will get you," crystal-toting, superstitious type. It wasn't until I started reading Carl Sagan just this year that I finally freed myself from all that crap.
Thank you for the amazingly thought-provoking video, philhellenes.
@UNCRatDog Nah. Too much guesswork and assumption involved in this one. I would bet that this is close to how it was, but I doubt anyone could ever prove it.
@philhellenes I've seen lots of stuff on the History and Discovery channel that I have found of questionable scientific backing though admittedly the only topic I can think of right now is the whole 2012 issue. They do cover parts of that particular topic that can be verified, but the spiritual shifts and such can not be proven. If someone just showed this video to me though, I'd seriously think it was professionally made.
@philhellenes While there may be some speculation behind this video, I wouldn't be the least surprised if it only required minor cleanup to stand peer review. Great, great video.
@philhellenes If you guys get the same shit on history chanel we do, a little guesswork would be no problem next to the towering mountain of Nostradamus-2012-life after humans bullshit they are pawning off as historical programing
@SummerSunshine1988 lol I have. It's the same bs that all Christians spread around. These guys totally misrepresent science and all they do is commit fallacies. I've seen these arguements before and none of them are good. They especially like to build strawmen and quotemine scientists.
@SummerSunshine1988 ok. Here's a little advice. Don't listen to that site when it talks about science. It really makes me sad when people spread misinformation like that. That's all. Peace.
> Samson was given strength from God and who could defeat him? Only sin...
as if a mythological fairy tale were fact. The FACT is that the Pope needs an inch of bulletproof glass to protect him from a tiny amount of gunpowder and a modestly-sized metal pellet, because God offers no such protection.
No, I don't need to understand who God is first. You have to show he exists first.
But for the record, I was a Christian for 20 years before deconverting. I am already quite aware of the concept of who your god supposedly is. In this case, you're the grocer.
Why seek to understand him? Because should he exist and have power, it's important to know if that power includes stopping bullets and slaying Philistines. Apparently it doesn't, so the Pope needs a bubble car.
I call you arrogant because you presumed to tell me what I know, in defiance of what I told you I knew. Your claim that I -know- God exists contradicts and overrides my prior assertion that I am an atheist.
I thought for 20 years that God existed. I did not know this, I accepted it on faith. I never knew it, despite my certainty. Eventually I came to realize that I had been mistaken, and that my belief was not founded in reality.
I do not surrender my will to anyone, whether they're God or not. It is immoral to demand it of me.
Coffee is real. If you spent 20 years doing actual work with it, you would be able to say how many milliliters and how many grams of what ingredients to cook at what temperatures for what durations and in what proportions. That is how knowledge is gained, and no part of it relies on faith.
Having a 20 year dream of working in a coffee shop would NOT teach you about coffee.
Yes, you and many other Christians have invited me to return to the delusion I once suffered. I shall not, until the position is supported by reality.
This video is really creepy... one of the best explanations of superstitious thought i've ever seen.
saguhh00 2 days ago
Well, there goes my sleep!
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If you seriously think that 'god is love' then you need to read your bible.
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
With regard to the WBC - Don't shoot the messenger!
ticklecreek 1 week ago
No matter how many times I see this video, I still think it to be awesome. My favourite video on YouTube.
bluebeard2 2 weeks ago
Phil - it would have been awesome at the point when u were talking about knowledge replacing fear... to edit in a clip of Kevin Richardson playing with lions.
ORACLE063 1 month ago
Awake at last "again"
InternetGuy1975 1 month ago
Phil. This remains my favorite of your videos. I like your "understanding" rids us of the "fear" plot twist. Using the image of the lion too as a " primal fear" got me thinking of Kevin Richardson. He has a total "understanding" of lion behavior and as effect can do what he does. Just thought i would pass that along. Dont know why. lol Have you seen the videos on him? Check out Kevin Richardson Lion Whisperer
ORACLE063 3 months ago
What's the song at the end?
mullewt 3 months ago
There is nothing more responsible that to live in accordance with one's beliefs
and nothing more irresponsible than to believe them.
MarkLucasTube 4 months ago
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
"the more you understand, the less you fear"
Another excellent video. Keep them coming.
mjbailey25 4 months ago
yeah so is it normal for someone never to cry just asking because i cant cry and im just wondering why
MrJulioavila004 5 months ago
the thumbnail scares the shit out of me
MaxikingNimero 6 months ago
@philhellenes The links in the Description are currently dead. Can you re-link?
yoyoj3d1 7 months ago
...he's got to be an Aquarius
ambrielangel 7 months ago
That Grudge eye is so fucking creepy...
FronteraFanatic 8 months ago 2
This is definitely your best video EVER, i keep watching it from time to time just to keep it fresh. Thales FTW!
DCioccoloni 8 months ago
@DCioccoloni haha me too...just came back here just to watch this video again.
Unworshipediety 8 months ago
Not bad at all. I am religious and yet I appreciate the qualities of this video. The logic has one major flaw though: Understanding more how the material world works does not disprove the existence of God. Quite the opposite in fact if you research the topic of intelligent design. Moreover, the miracle of existence and the meaning of existence will always be at the heart of our human quest and can't be explained by world mechanics.
ozcolas 8 months ago
@ozcolas The nature of biology destroys all claims to intelligent design. The brainless strict adherence to a nested hierarchy is anything but intelligent. It's quite mindless and it shows. The opportunity to copy good designs to replace bad ones never occurs because species boundaries are what they are. GM can copy Ford's widget, but our genome will never acquire the benefit of the octopus's eye design. The absolute lack of ANY cross-species access to solutions is strong evidence for evolution.
ExtantFrodo 8 months ago 2
@ozcolas Since you already brought up intelligent design I suggest you research the flaws of ID.
Spoiler: It's nonsense bullshit.
JackeShanTwo 8 months ago
@ozcolas Intelligent design doesn't hold any water when compared to the wishes of the god of monotheism. The god of the bible wants each man and woman to breed exclusively with each other. If that was the plan then why don't men produce one sperm a month in harmony with the female? If god wants that there is no reason for men to be able to breed at a faster rate. If god hates homosexuality then why is it possible at all? Omnipotence means god is not obligated to create anything he doesn't want.
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@ozcolas "can't be explained by world mechanics."
Assuming you mean 'natural means' then please tell me why you make that assumption?
seansalvador1 4 months ago
yes its the year of the beast; it will be beautiful. So beautiful; the whole year of madness and insanity.
theoriginal666sin 9 months ago
pretty good. i welcome comments on my "what i is" vid; please read the intro below the vid before commenting to get the "spirit" in which it is presented
desirefirst 10 months ago
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snazzytazzanna67 10 months ago
@snazzytazzanna67 Who said anything along the lines of "we are our own creators"? We were "created", in the most obvious sense, by our parents. They were created by their parents, and so on, until you get to the original organisms, which were created via electrostatic interactions among the materials of the highly volatile early Earth. There is no need for the supernatural. Your fear, your plea to "watch out", provides a stellar example of the phenomenon addressed in this video.
7Lord7Arthien7 10 months ago 25
@snazzytazzanna67
the very beliefs u expressed in your comment, are born out of the fear explained in the video.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
@snazzytazzanna67 Shortly after the earth's formation, the highly electrostatic environment with water and the molecules necessary were all the ingredients needed for abiogenesis to take part. Abiogenesis is in brief the process in which self-replicating molecules form. By many processes including natural selection and ALOT of time, those molecules grew in complexity and evolved to today's forms. This comment box is too short to go into details but yeah, we know very well NO god created humanity
2CSST2 8 months ago 2
do you think it's vulgar how instinct is so often framed as something vestigial by popular science?
coprographia 11 months ago
Fuck that lion.
MrMonginOut 11 months ago 36
It is true that people turn to God OFTEN when they are afraid of something. Question is, what is so malicious, and deceiving about that? And if God shakes us up a bit every so often to bring us to our senses, again, what is that if not true love? Seems to me we want God to fit our little world of fantasies, our everything goes mentality, which caters to our convenient lives and helps us avoid the poor and less fortunate.
fifalacious 11 months ago
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@fifalacious
If your god causes earthquakes etc then it purposefully murders children in horrific manner and is therefore malevolent in the extreme.
seansalvador1 4 months ago
From what I understand, it was the early pre-hominid's vision that also played a big factor. Humans are actually on the better side of vision insofar as the animal kingdom is concerned.
GoodwoodAlpha 11 months ago
Thales....best guess EVAR!!
Nerfherder3 11 months ago
Quite a few animals can't out run us. Especially over distance.
SephieRothe 11 months ago
@SephieRothe We also have fairly descent eyesight. We have better color vision than most, and great visual processing. Unfortunately color vision doesn't matter at night.
SephieRothe 11 months ago
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@SephieRothe we have more sweat glands than most animals and can thermoregulate better for it, which means we have much greater stamina, which means we can outrun almost anything distance wise, even horses. This was our method of hunting for millennia, to simply chase animals till they collapsed from exhaustion and overheating... it still is in some parts of the world.
seansalvador1 4 months ago
That was super cool!!
MrJasondark1 1 year ago
Very interesting. I just sub'd.
ShanyiBacsi 1 year ago
excellent video. i bet pattern seeking behavior (faulty induction) is also an evolved trait.
shaneho78 1 year ago
Hahaha also I find it funny that I commented months ago and people are still replying to me. Looking for an argument much?
metallica4169 1 year ago
Alright I'll admit, the comment I posted about animal love is invalid. Whether or not I was correct I'm not able to back up my point well and so I can't really defend myself. That still doesn't hinder my point about the bacterium though. Someone please answer that question if u can.
-Also the reason metallica is my username is because I used to like them before I really came to god but I have that username for pretty much anything so I don't really want to change it.
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169 GO BACK TO METALLICA!!!! QUIT THE BULLSHIT
razrX 8 months ago
i welcome death and do not fear it anymore,i think that fear does nothing but hinder learning, for you might be afraid of what you find might crush the ego that told you the answer you chose was right,and that there are always possibilities beyond what you thought you know,death might be the one time you truley get rest from the daunting task of lying awake most of the night trying to figure who what when where and why you are!!!
METALLICA6547 1 year ago
Nicely done
jimjamerman 1 year ago
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philhellenes my m.s.n is my profile baybe!
sexykatie90 1 year ago
Err, so what is going on down below me?
SamPD2 1 year ago
You make brilliant movies. I keep thinking that the videos I have not yet seen can't be nearly as good as the ones I have seen, but I'm consistently proven wrong.
brajamtho757 1 year ago
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brajamtho757 1 year ago
Death of speech, seems like these "forces" u speak of could easily be interchanged with God just like people who believe in time and chance
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169
In the minds of people who have to rely on a pre-science explanation for the terror they feel at the thought that life has only one purpose and that that is the habitual continuation and progress of life and the evolution of form.
To some people the thought of being responsible for giving their own life a larger and more personal purpose, must be absolutely paralyzing.
For others, god has become a pair of shoes that no longer fit, and no longer keep stride.
DeathofSpeech 1 year ago
@metallica4169
When you can demonstrate that forces that are uniformly understood, and operate within the constraints of laws which have no more intelligence than water flowing downhill...
When you can demonstrate that there is a guided purpose in the dissipation of heat...
Then a 2000 year old tabloid might be relevant again.
Till then I prefer to get my information on the nature of reality from more recent publications.
DeathofSpeech 1 year ago
awsome
satanschapel 1 year ago
Thing is, I'm not talking about primates, apes, us or anything else!!!! I'm talking about the first living thing to ever be!!!! That book doesn't have to do with that.
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169 I don't think anyone assumes the spark of life was the result of a solitary single-cell organism coming from a lightning strike with perfect DNA.
It's likely the conditions for amino acids and DNA to form naturally existed in several places in massive liquid brews, with millions of potential DNA strands forming. Of all that DNA without purpose, one likely scraped through and became something that worked. And then it multiplied, with thousands of mutations, growing and changing.
JJMDude 1 year ago
@JJMDude
I sometimes despair at the argument that, "life began in ocean vents, no, it began in catalytic clay, in beach sand, tidal pools, etc."
Knowing what we know about the diverse conditions in which life can evolve, the probability seems very high to me that it originated under every condition that was favorable to it where the precursors weren't eaten by something that had already developed. Even being eaten in some cases, may have combined two precursor structures.
DeathofSpeech 1 year ago
@DeathofSpeech: Watching science happen, like watching sausage being made, can sometimes be an unpleasant occupation. I don't imagine that writing Principia was always easy going, Newton wasn't able to open up another window on his scroll and look up the formula for the area of an ellipse segment. Lots of mini-theories, lots of argument, lots of ego.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex
Newton did in fact have other resources...
His arch rival Robert Hooke made progress similar enough to Newton's that Hooke's Law is interchangeable with Newton's second...
and both derived their own gradual understanding from those who came before them.
...but you're right. Being on the front edge can suck.
There is no tech service desk to call.
It can also be rather amazing finding when another piece of the puzzle fits.
DeathofSpeech 1 year ago
1st of all I'm not a troll, I only said that cuz I know no one can answer it. Also, no I'm not saying you have to be told over and over again, I'm saying u need to be told once them u learn how to do it and that's that. How would u know to do anything without learning how to do it? You might say trial and error but then if that bacterium makes the error there goes all of life forever as we know it. Seems pretty dicey to me.
metallica4169 1 year ago
But a machine must be programmed in order to function. How can something made of any part or parts know what to do unless it has been told how? If it has nothing before to base it's actions off of, then how does it know?
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169 So you need to be told, "raise your voice at the last word to ask a question" everytime you ask a question?
Seeing your comments around here, I see you're just a troll. "first one to answer gets a cookie"
If anyone sees this reply, don't bother arguing with him.
Antixianos 1 year ago
@metallica4169
Actually, you're wrong in assuming that none can answer your question.
...the answer is, it doesn't know.
Snowflakes show structure and symmetry yet are not designed and the same forces that define that structure construct organic molecules from simple compounds... and increase their complexity... and those same forces continue to produce random errors in DNA... and competition between life forms makes being smarter than shit trying to eat you an advantage in not being lunch
DeathofSpeech 1 year ago
@metallica4169
because we did not just pop into existence in our current form we evolved over millions of years.
assym2006 1 year ago
So how did this neurochemistry get there? Did we evolve it over time and chance? How can our minds or even our subconscious get us to do something that we don't know we need to do? Unless of course we have been intelligently designed that way... But that's just for illiterate idiots that aren't smart enough to know better isn't it?
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169: A rather flip but valid answer is that that is what random mutation does so well. It branches out, trying things, most of which are useless or even detrimental. Occasionally one goes off in a direction that actually helps the species, and if the change is lucky, it gets propagated to all, which then await the next positive movement. No conscious thought, no goal, just getting along in the environment. ...
puncheex 1 year ago
... So, some mutation changed something else into a sodium pump, and an electric current down a cell wall became possible. Some random thing triggered it periodically, and muscle cells changed so that it could trigger them into movement. Step by step (in something like a cnidarian) was the first primitive use; later bells and whistles were added to make it work better, more reliably, and to add non-random triggering.
puncheex 1 year ago
... So, some mutation changed something else into a sodium pump, and an electric current down a cell wall became possible. Some random thing triggered it periodically, and muscle cells changed so that it could trigger them into movement. Step by step (in something like a cnidarian) was the first primitive use; later bells and whistles were added to make it work better, more reliably, and to add non-random triggering.
puncheex 1 year ago
First one to answer gets a cookie!
metallica4169 1 year ago
Question 2: go back to the very beginning of life. The first organism ever- bacteria amoeba whatever, how did it know it NEEDED to reproduce? It can't think it has no brain. There is nothing before it to base it's actions off or any instincts it may have. There is no reason for it to reproduce because it doesn't even no it will die it has no comprehension of death. If u think it's just chance then it seems like ur putting a lot of faith in chance which isn't that the opposite of atheism? Hmmm.
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Bacteria don't reproduce in the same fashion as more complex organisms. In fact, the earliest single-celled organisms did not exhibit descent as we understand it. But that's besides the point. For complex, multicellular organisms, the motive is purely biological, a motive that arises without any conscious thought thanks to the wonderful world of neurochemistry. For bacteria, osmosis seems to be a natural response to cellular development, occurring whenever circumstances allow
Bernstein1917 1 year ago
@metallica4169 First of all every biologist makes it clear evolution isn’t chance, but that’s a different issue. As for knowing it must reproduce I think Gillies Deleuze put it best. Basically every living thing is a machine, its parts serve a function thus it will perform those functions. A baby doesn’t drink the milk from tis mother because it wants to or knows it has to, it does it because it must, that is one of the functions the child was born with. Thats the "basic" idea.
Camronas 1 year ago
I like how so many commented on my post yet no one could answer my question.
metallica4169 1 year ago
Creepy video, but amazingly insightful!
Lukegamer 1 year ago
Damn, this is so scary.
LapinPete 1 year ago
Hmm, this provides a surprisingly fresh and interesting perspective on the evolution of humans. Just when you think you've heard every angle of it...
kirkey99 1 year ago
Actually merciless I have owned pets my whole life and I currently have 2 dogs and 2 cats. I know it may seem like they love u but they only show affection toward u because u give them something back. They may act like they love u when the cuddle up and let you pet them but they only allow this because they trust you and know u will not Hurt them when they let their guard down it makes them feel good as does it make you but they are only partaking in a give take relationship, nothing more.
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Humans only love, because you give them something back. Your argument applies to humans 100%. Or, why do so many people break up because of alcoholism or accident where other person gets paralysed? You always need get something back to love.
It is also proven in many researches, that animals have feelings just like humans do.
LapinPete 1 year ago
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If we truly evolved from monkeys or whatever, where did we get our morals from? Animals don't have love for one another they don't feel regret or remorse for actions. How did we come to the conclusion that killing is bad? In the animal kingdom it's the opposite because you are securing your place in the area or pack. How could we learn these things unless something told us...
metallica4169 1 year ago
@metallica4169 You could answer your own questions by doing your own research. Why ask others to do it for you when you will not believe what they say?
philhellenes 1 year ago 52
@metallica4169
The theory isn't that we evolved from monkeys, it's that we share a common ancestor. We get our morality from the same place we got out intelligence. Our world is intelligent, no doubting that, but it's not because it originates from what you consider to be "god". We are a symptom of the universe, like an apple that grows off a tree when the tree is fully grown. We get our morality from experience,emotions, empathy, and the realization that having morality is beneficial.
spilledinsanity 1 year ago
@metallica4169 "Animals don't have love for one another they don't feel regret or remorse for actions."
Okay, that is just flat a STUPID-ASS thing to say. You clearly spend more time EATING animals than in studying them, to say something so moronic. Anyone who's ever owned a pet, even, knows that a statement like this is just full of shit. Next time try letting the clutch out on your BRAIN before you put your MOUTH in gear, bozo...
TheMercilessEye 1 year ago
@metallica4169
Willfully ignorant sheep are despicable.
You should use computers made with creations science.
UrsoDaCortesia 1 year ago
@metallica4169
You like Metallica, if god really did create us, why would he allow a terrible band like Metallica to exist? Proof there is no god right here.
BusinessIDBAI 1 year ago
@metallica4169 you can learn without being taught....
robotlee74 1 year ago
@metallica4169
This is such an old and frequently defeated question that I have to tip my hat to you for having the balls to pose such a stupid question.
ThieleM 1 year ago
@metallica4169
Do you get your morals from a holy book?
feagal 1 year ago
@metallica4169 There is no such thing as morals, not really. Morals are a human invention rather like time, the world does not understand time or morals in the same ways we understand it. People create their own morals based on what is deemed to be acceptable by the community around them. Look at people from around the world or even from richer or poorer places where you live, people have different morals due to their environment. Animals might have morals to just not ones we understand.
Camronas 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Franz DeWaal 'Our Inner Ape'. Its short the language is accessible and it explains how traits conducive to cooperation gain selective advantage in primate groups.
But then you weren't really looking for an answer to those questions anymore than you are likely to read the book or any book dealing with the subject.
foxholeathiest 1 year ago
@metallica4169 How do you know?
How do you know animals feel no love for one another? Were you once a dog in a past life, or are you under the assumption that animals are so different and inferior that they cannot feel like we do?
What we call love, I imagine animals have it. But for their own species only, out of necessity of survival.
Social animals of our caliber, we can reason. We are designed to care for each other. We have emotions so we can sympathize with and help other humans.
JJMDude 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Morals, in the end, are based entirely on our social nature. Likely we DID kill, and still do, if it is advantageous to us. But intelligence makes us question, and we can ask others by using language. We decided it was bad to kill each other, because we are stronger in numbers, and our sympathetic triggers urge us to value lives of our own species and our own families. Language further strengthens bonding. Safety and intelligence allows introspection. Morals come from necessity.
JJMDude 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Imagine you're in a group. Beingmany, makes it easier to hunt for food. Naturally, you conclude that you'd better not kill your ally, as you yourself don't want to get killed. We see that in the animal kingdom too. Some animals lives in groups and don't kills each other if they are part of the same group. You can just extend that principe to a modern society.
oralyon 1 year ago
@metallica4169 no one told me. i figured it out on my own. are you so docile that you cant think for your self?
smoke123455 1 year ago
@metallica4169 .......a) we didn't evolve from monkeys, monkeys and ourselves both followed different evolutionary paths from a common ancestor, so at least make an effort to understand the funadmentals of evolution before opening your mouth and b) another startling difference between us and the rest of the animal kingdom is self awareness, consciousness.....I would say that would have a lot to do with it would it not?
Darthboris 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Animals don't have love? You obviously have never had a pet. Poor you.
Beeshitten 1 year ago
@metallica4169 well we evolved to learn that if we grew up along side with lets say 20 other people
and those 20 people live together for 40 years, now those 20 people need each other to find food help defend each other
co-operation
its one of the foundations of human people,
1 human vs 1 tiger = dinner
10 co-operating humans vs 1 tiger = food for the 10 humans
we require co-operation and if one member of a tribe killed someone a hunt might not work, leading to death. this awnser works..
bezeker12 1 year ago
@metallica4169 I find it ironic that your name has "metallica" in it when Metallica have a few anti-religious songs.
itarethetroll 1 year ago
@itarethetroll Same here! I LOL'd at his comment!
wxtrim 1 year ago
@metallica4169 ill reply if you dont mind,to say a animal doesnt love look at dogs,they take to other dogs and seem to grieve when the dog dies or is missing or they can love humans,look at a dog owner who is slaped by someone and the dog comes to their rescue,is that not a type of love or care,if an animal can feel pain its unfair to say they dont love,now they might be missing a strand of dna or a gene that gives certain human emotion but doesnt mean they have none,maybe just different than us
METALLICA6547 1 year ago
@metallica4169 animals do have love for one and other just like we do i can prove that to you a million times over. animals have feelings dude stop being ignorant. it is a fact they do
kumili727 1 year ago
@kumili727
they also taste good
assym2006 1 year ago
@metallica4169 I can surely tell you that many humans don't regret or remorse for actions, look at the "wonderful" christianity. How many people does your god kill in your fairy tale book? more than 2 million without counting all the people in the earth when noah's ark. I would NEVER worship that imaginary being just because a book tells me so, because there is NO EVIDENCE.
Aerithandwilus 1 year ago
@Aerithandwilus So, what do we live for?
and what ever your answer will bem ask your self
THEN WHAT?
sultany2 1 year ago
@sultany2 I think we can make our way and we can give meaning to our live. Just because I don't know all the answers I'm not going to place a god/goddess in it's place. I don't know about you, but thinking that my sole purpose in life is to praise and worship a god that will reward me with a heaven where I will worship him eternally is HORRIBLE. I think I'd rather go to your christian hell. THE PARTY IS DOWNSTAIRS WITH THE THINKERS, SCIENTISTS AND NOT BRAINWASHED PEOPLE! :D
Aerithandwilus 1 year ago
@Aerithandwilus First of all, I'm not christian and i don't know what they believe in.
second, I also think we can make our way and we can give meaning to our live, but that dosen't means not worshiping god.
I just asked you THEN WHAT??
I'll do what ever you say BUT when I die, what will happen??
is that it ?
sultany2 1 year ago
@sultany2
when you die nothing else happens. You are dead , that's it fade to black , the end.
assym2006 1 year ago
@sultany2 - I live to better myself, leave this planet a better place for my kids and their kids
sol3a1 1 year ago
@sol3a1
I also do that, it's one of my goals in life, BUT what is your goals after life?
is death suppose to be the end ?
what will happen to our souls after death?
If you think the meaning of life is to enjoy it, so why do we die eventually ?
sultany2 1 year ago
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@sultany2 "I also do that, it's one of my goals in life, BUT what is your goals after life?" As of right now with no known afterlife, I plan to have my ashes shot into the Sun's corona
"is death suppose to be the end?" Looks that way
"what will happen to our souls after death?" We don't know if we have a soul
"If you think the meaning of life is to enjoy it, so why do we die eventually?" So why can't biological systems continue on? Above my pay grade
But the fear of death doesn't mean squat
sol3a1 1 year ago
@sultany2
There is no after life, when your dead your dead , that's it game over. Why do we die ? because we are an animal just like any other that's why. Man is not special, we are not the chosen ones etc. We just happen to be the dominate animal on this planet at this time.
There is no god.
assym2006 1 year ago
@sultany2 - "is death suppose to be the end ?"
Of course, what would a rational person expect. This is the only life we have & we must leave this world a better place than we found it.
"what will happen to our souls after death?"
There is no soul; why would there be?
"so why do we die eventually ?"
The body wears out; we need to leave room for our progeny. Who would want to live forever; that just cheapens life.
CamW30 1 year ago
@sultany2 - What CamW30 said
sol3a1 1 year ago
@sultany2 It sounds like your belief is based on the fear of death. You're stuck on what happens after you die. Well what if nothing happens? Believing in a God because you don't WANT there to be nothing after death isn't rational.
I mean, I want to be able to fly but that doesn't mean I can.
I can see that you don't care if your beliefs are true a long as they comfort you. The great thinkers of this world DO care about truth though and it's a good thing or else we'd still be living in caves.
warren52nz 10 months ago
@sultany2
My wife , my children , myself. To enjoy what time I have.
assym2006 1 year ago
@metallica4169
simple we made them ourselves. No god just men and woman learning over time that killing another harms yourself as they is no one to watch your back. Its the same with all our morals.
there is no sky fairy.
assym2006 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Actually we do our get our morals from animals and our evolution. Animals do have love for one another and they do feel regret, If they betray or mistreat the tribe or group etc often they are expelled and forced to live alone. Evolution doesnt mean humans came from monkeys, it means everything came from simpler forms of life. Do you seriously think that civilization got this far under the impression it was okay to kill and rape and destroy eachother?
YourJustHuman 1 year ago
@YourJustHuman
no they don't at all.
They are driven by instinct, not rationality. To be moral, you must be rational.
You cant blame animals from killing other animals even in the same speices.
But you can blame humans from killing other humans because we are rational and have a choice. Animals are non-rational and act through instinct.
MrMatthew4892 11 months ago
@metallica4169 Metallica thinks he/she is making a point by asking these questions. Whatever answer you give, they will just deny. Phil is right, go research it yourself.
I would like to see more rationalists refuse to engage in bickering over Youtube about facts about our origins. Instead, ask the pious to educate themselves. If they don't, they will continue to be the ones left out of the dark about the true nature of our reality.
MoDeeSeventyThree 1 year ago
@metallica4169 Yeah I guess we got our morals from the god of the Torah/Bible/Quran who ordered and committed genocide, infanticide, rape, incest, slavery ... etc. over and over.
gupsphoo 11 months ago
@metallica4169 Well our bodies are evolved from a common ancestor with the apes, but where do we get our morals from? From out of consciousness, which if you see as the ground of being as opposed to matter, then you will realize why!
The compacted mass of the Physical Universe would fit in a large box.
If you believe in God, believe in evolution too, since it glorifies God!
Peace!
KTK401 11 months ago
@metallica4169 You see, animals have feelings and they DO love each other.
And we do kill others. You kill animals for meat. "THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING!!!11!!"
Yes it is.. Killing OTHER animals for meat just like any other animal. When's the last time when you saw an animal kill one of its own species without humans encouraging them to do it? Not recently anyway. It does happen though, also in humans. Humans sometimes murder each other.
DejZant 11 months ago
@metallica4169 How do you know animals can't feel anything ? And have no morals ?
Check out "Animal planet", Discovery channel, or National geographic once in a while.
You could actually learn something.But It's dangerous to suddenly start learning something.
The preachers waving that black book, are afraid of knowledge and understanding of how nature works.
Knowledge are dangerous for them, for when people see them for the charlatans they really are. They will not make shitloads of money.
BelieveNoGod 11 months ago
@metallica4169
Look to the gorillas, they live in small groups that help each other out, they learned that more beings means a safer environment, Gaining sentience (I think, therefor I am) through the need for communication and understanding of spoken/written word made us understand that others feel pain, just as we do. My morals are based on this, I don't wish to feel pain or loss, and I believe you wouldn't either, so I won't be a cause of pain or loss, for you, so that you won't, for me.
joshmonster94 10 months ago
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@metallica4169
If you have ever read the bible you would realize we didn't get out morals from it.The LORD said: "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, INFANT and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
- 1 Samuel 15:3 (King James)
christianjerk666 10 months ago
Beautiful! Favorited!
TheAlaricPetz 1 year ago
Great video.
Although, you didn't touch on it, but I thought when you said humans get look to the sky to get our answers, we really just look up. In times past, when we still lived in trees, what was up? Safety. The higher you could get, the safer you were. The most knowledgeable climbers would be highest, and so the lower, less skilled climbers literally would look up to them for answers.
Just a thought. I really do love your videos.
MrLawrenceV 1 year ago 2
i cant stop thinking that you ment "god" with the word "monster"
dieschlaupe 1 year ago
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I serve God not out of fear but out of pure love. I'm not afraid of hell nor am I serving God to escape hell. When i became a christian i just felt like a load of mess just fell off me and i felt complete assurance, all my worries and all my sins and guilt felt like they were just being taken off of me
christiskingofall 1 year ago
@christiskingofall
I can understand someone’s personal belief if they feel it truly helps them and makes them a better person.
I am glad you have found this for yourself. I do have a problem when people try to convert others simply because it may work for them, and makes them feel good. I’m not saying that is what you are doing. Just saying. I had just the opposite experience myself. I feel I have become a much better person without belief in gods. But that is me. To each there own.
4me2cclearly 1 year ago 7
i love that at exactly the point, it is said, "And the sky was full of gods, but which of the gods needed to be appeased?" The sun or moon is actually answering your question. The star of King David is only associated with the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, it is a symbol of Israel. Science was created by God and how ironic that even in this, your message is about fear, and the Bible tells us 365 times specifically, "FEAR NOT!" All respect! Very good video! Shalom in Yeshua! Omein!
cyberpunkmonk 1 year ago
your videos are always good and helpfull, so thank you :-)
TheStilf 1 year ago
You did a fantastic job on this video. And you're reasonably close to what happened to us.
Our cro-magnon ancestors went to the brink of extinction, which was when human intelligence as we know it today evolved. Apparently, small populations lend themselves to rapid evolution.
Our neanderthal cousins did not survive, curiously, even though their bones were thicker and heavier, and their strength much greater.
bluebeard2 1 year ago
"It's one thing to think that there are monsters under your bed. It's another thing to have parents who think that they can see them too."
That pretty much sums up my childhood. Not just that my mother is a Theist--but that she's the New Age, "negative energy will get you," crystal-toting, superstitious type. It wasn't until I started reading Carl Sagan just this year that I finally freed myself from all that crap.
Thank you for the amazingly thought-provoking video, philhellenes.
KaraRvn 1 year ago
This is the best video I have ever seen.
TheLogicalGod 1 year ago
Whats name of the music at around the end of the video?
PauLWaFFleZ 1 year ago
You did a really good job on this video! I wish I had video making talents! This video could seriously be a documentary on the History Channel!
UNCRatDog 1 year ago 6
@UNCRatDog Nah. Too much guesswork and assumption involved in this one. I would bet that this is close to how it was, but I doubt anyone could ever prove it.
philhellenes 1 year ago
@philhellenes I've seen lots of stuff on the History and Discovery channel that I have found of questionable scientific backing though admittedly the only topic I can think of right now is the whole 2012 issue. They do cover parts of that particular topic that can be verified, but the spiritual shifts and such can not be proven. If someone just showed this video to me though, I'd seriously think it was professionally made.
UNCRatDog 1 year ago
@philhellenes While there may be some speculation behind this video, I wouldn't be the least surprised if it only required minor cleanup to stand peer review. Great, great video.
NielsC68 1 year ago
@philhellenes
"would bet that this is close to how it was, but I doubt anyone could ever prove it. "
Have you watched the Andy Thompson stuff?
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
@philhellenes
"This video could seriously be a documentary on the History Channel!"
"Nah. Too much guesswork and assumption involved in this one."
...Have you not watched the History channel lately, and their documentaries on Ancient Aliens? This is solid factual information in comparison. XD
BusinessIDBAI 1 year ago
@philhellenes If you guys get the same shit on history chanel we do, a little guesswork would be no problem next to the towering mountain of Nostradamus-2012-life after humans bullshit they are pawning off as historical programing
foxholeathiest 1 year ago
@philhellenes Unless someone has...some sort of time machine.
0Vuuk0 1 year ago
@UNCRatDog Read Genesis chapter 1 of the holy bible.
trancemajestic 1 year ago
Brilliant!
drdodson 1 year ago
WOW. this was very helpful for my own knowledge thanks i never really viewed fear as a product to belief religion
swimminglikeaquaman 1 year ago
God does exist.
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
@SummerSunshine1988 in your head... im sure she does
crankycactus 1 year ago
@SummerSunshine1988 Just saying it doesn't make it so. God doesn't exist. :P
123Atheist 1 year ago
@123Atheist : Check out ChristianAnswers[.]net
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
@SummerSunshine1988 lol I have. It's the same bs that all Christians spread around. These guys totally misrepresent science and all they do is commit fallacies. I've seen these arguements before and none of them are good. They especially like to build strawmen and quotemine scientists.
123Atheist 1 year ago
@123Atheist : Well, I cannot force you to believe. I wish you well in your life.
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
@SummerSunshine1988 ok. Here's a little advice. Don't listen to that site when it talks about science. It really makes me sad when people spread misinformation like that. That's all. Peace.
123Atheist 1 year ago
Simply Beautiful, Thumbs Up!
BlankPicketSign 1 year ago
Fear is the beginning of wisdom which leads to understanding.
God will take fear away.
Samson was given strength from God and who could defeat him?
Only sin...
When one keeps away from sin then fear is replaced by
Strength and Courage.
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
And that's why the Pope has a bubble car.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun If you know anything about prophets and Christians.
You will know that they have been killed from the beginning.
Jesus the son of God was killed for nothing.
What do you think they will do to his lowly servant.
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
I know they like to say things like
> Samson was given strength from God and who could defeat him? Only sin...
as if a mythological fairy tale were fact. The FACT is that the Pope needs an inch of bulletproof glass to protect him from a tiny amount of gunpowder and a modestly-sized metal pellet, because God offers no such protection.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun firstly you must understand who god is before you make any such statements a person who is a grocer does not talk about mechanics neither
should an atheist talk about God.
You are not smarter than god so why do you seek to understand him?
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
No, I don't need to understand who God is first. You have to show he exists first.
But for the record, I was a Christian for 20 years before deconverting. I am already quite aware of the concept of who your god supposedly is. In this case, you're the grocer.
Why seek to understand him? Because should he exist and have power, it's important to know if that power includes stopping bullets and slaying Philistines. Apparently it doesn't, so the Pope needs a bubble car.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun you are already aware that he exists and it is sin that makes it impossible to see him.
First remove yourself from sin then you will see him clearly.
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
What breathtaking arrogance for you to decree what I do and do not know.
Removing myself from sin, however you personally happen to define that concept, will not enable me to see your imaginary friend.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun Why do you call me arrogant when it was you who
supplied the information.
You have spent 20 years as a Christian was that 20 years in sin or without.
Does not God exist within you?
Do you lust are you proud arrogant greedy wrathful these are some of the sins
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
I call you arrogant because you presumed to tell me what I know, in defiance of what I told you I knew. Your claim that I -know- God exists contradicts and overrides my prior assertion that I am an atheist.
I thought for 20 years that God existed. I did not know this, I accepted it on faith. I never knew it, despite my certainty. Eventually I came to realize that I had been mistaken, and that my belief was not founded in reality.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun If I spent 20 years in a coffee shop. Would that mean that after I left
that I would not know anything about coffee.
There is no presumption because you have told me yourself.
You are mistaken for you are called again to repent and surrender your will to
God.
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
I do not surrender my will to anyone, whether they're God or not. It is immoral to demand it of me.
Coffee is real. If you spent 20 years doing actual work with it, you would be able to say how many milliliters and how many grams of what ingredients to cook at what temperatures for what durations and in what proportions. That is how knowledge is gained, and no part of it relies on faith.
Having a 20 year dream of working in a coffee shop would NOT teach you about coffee.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun I demand nothing from you.
I ask you because the time will come when you will be asked
Did I not invite you to join me?
Therefore live your life well.
I take nothing from you.
God Bless you.
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
> You are mistaken for you are called again to repent and surrender your will to God.
That is a demand. I have nothing to repent for. I am human. My will is my own.
You assert that such a time will come, but you cannot back up your assertion.
Yes, you and many other Christians have invited me to return to the delusion I once suffered. I shall not, until the position is supported by reality.
You have no ability to take from me, which I am thankful for.
Reason educate you.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun It was an invitation...
jimcamilos 1 year ago
@jimcamilos
Yes, you and many other Christians have invited me to return to the delusion I once suffered. I shall not, until the position is supported by reality.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun If you want reality then stop sinning and do not live in weakness.
jimcamilos 1 year ago