I'm wondering, should one not completely extend the arm at any point during a straight punch? I find it hard to generate the proper power without extending completely.
@fafner3d ideally, your fist should have connected with the target Before you completely extend, You risk hyper extension on your elbow, and its practically hard to actually hit your target at the exact same point you completely extended your arms, any later and all power is lost
Nice video, i do muay thai judo and i recently started wing chun, i just passed my first wing chun grading, i can do straight punches, but without the fluency or speed, also im not clear on where the power comes from, do you tense and push when you make contact or something? Any advice would be much appreciated :) (and i feel slightly sorry for the hand man D:)
@TheSamBTube The power of the punch, and of pretty much every move from wing chun (no matter which school) comes from the hips and thus the structure. This is because the elbow gets his power from the hips. so use you're whole body as the force behind the punch. Don't move your body though, else you gotta switch you're whole body through the hip (that way it generates more power, you'll learn that from the second form chum kiu).
Boxers use the same technique but they lose their structure doin so
@AnamiLoka Yes correct. I recommend when at first trying to learn to execute a punch from the hip, doing the boxing method. That way its easier to feel the gain of power you get from the hip. After you recognized it, use it in the wing chun punch.
@qool786 So I can walk around with my head up my ass like you? I don't think so. Like I said, if Brue Lee were alive to see you trying to start shit on the internet he would hang his head in shame. Look at you, you're an idiot conspiracy theorist who yells at anyone who doesn't think the same way he does. Maybe when you grow up and mature you'll cut the internet toughguy bullshit.
@Frostbite864 seriously get a fucking life you twat faced dick head this youtube not your mamas kitchen you like to say shit to people and when they say shit back you cant take it LMAO your cry baby bitch i didnt start this but i sure as hell am going to finish it oh yeah your heads up you ass thats why you talk so much shit
@Frostbite864 hmm martial arts instructor some instructor you are your a shame to all martial arts instructor ok i may be a dick from time to time and yes i agree ive got issues but you an INSTRUCTOR really i cant believe its come to this that martial arts instructors would steep so low. so tell me whats the conspiracy in having a joke? were did the conspiracy shit come from?were the hell did pull that one from ? really feel sorry for who ever you teach like i said i made a joke a harmless
@qool786 cont* yeah has i was saying i made a harmless fucking joke but your friend over there the little bitch was being a smart ass so im minding my own business keeping the conversation going with that pig headed piece of shit dizzy twat and in comes you MR INSTRUCTOR now tell me has an instructor is that what you teach your student to go and poke your nose and insult others and get insulted at the same time and you say im the one whos got the tough guy shit going on take a look in the mirror
@qool786 Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work. You're the one who's acting like a pathetic child throwing a tantrum. No one even knows what you're fucking problem is because you just attack people for no reason. I'm talking about the conspiracy bullshit on your page about how "9/11 was an inside job." You're the one who is intentionally picking fights based on which martial art you think is the best. I think you're just angry because you KNOW that Bruce would not approve of your actions
@Frostbite864 lol seriously man get a grip you replied to my comment first and now your saying its my fault grow some balls please now this the problem with people like you let me explain mr instructor i wasnt discussing which martial art is best i was making a point and the point was that Bruce taught all no matter what back ground,lineage,creed,colour,belief sytem they were from and your friend over there was saying wing chun is only for his retarded lineage now whats wrong with that
@Frostbite864 look man i believe what i believe and you can believe what you believe my problem is when dick heads like you who claim to be so and so cant come up with something sensible to say often try and pick out some thing that they can use ok wow ive got some conspiracy thing on my page what has that got to do with what we are discussing your maneuvers are child like picking on stupid things to keep a crap convo going on man you really do suck some instructer/teacher you are shame on you
@Frostbite864 "Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work" your pathetic lol right i am having this long conversation with that dizzy freak and out of no were you came out with your bullshit comment so im basically stating facts how is that ME trying to flip this on YOU? one word mr instructer and that is PATHETIC! LOOL this is on your conscience man and you keep it there
@qool786 My conscience is clean. Idiots like you don't bother me, but I must say that your spelling and grammar are quite annoying to read. Seriously, Hellen Keller could've put together a more coherent sentence than you. I reccomend that you go back to school and learn the difference between "your" and "you're."
@Frostbite864 lol again same childish ways your conscience is clean and idiots like me dont bother you? ok is that why your getting so worked up or is it you homo fag gay feelings boiling up. once i learned that you were an instructor i tried to refrain from saying shit to you but guess what i just learned something and that is(drum rolls please) that your a crap has an instructor and crap has a man and even worse when it comes to saying crap on here how many craps are oh ive lost count loool
@qool786 Lol did you seriously fill out 5 entire comment boxes just so you could try and sling more shit at me? I think you're becoming obsessed. I don't even have the time to read all of this. If it would make you feel better I can always pretend like I care enough to go over all of it like a bored parent looking at a child's "art" and feigning excitement. I'm sure you could use the validation.
@Frostbite864 Hahahaha you really are worse than i thought LOOOOL seriously you cant be an instructor your full of shit. Your telling me you dont care and that this type of thing aint you and yet like the dick that you are you still replied HAHAHAHAHA how fuckin awesome is that. Hats off and a round of applause to you because you sir must be THE biggest twat faced dick on the youtube community (and thats pretty fuckin big)
@qool786 Lol what a whiney little faggot. Bruce Lee was a pussy and so are you for thinking that his shit was any better than Wing Chun. It must be easy for bitches like you to talk shit over the internet but if you were in a street fight you would never be able to back it up you stupid muslim terrorist fuckhead. Why don't you go blow up a building or something you punkass bitch nigger.
@aSingleDalIasguy oh here comes another tough guy. Please dont say that im scared really mr homo username. Look i know you were abused has a child i got your personal message were you that your dad used fuck you up ass and then shit in your gob and how his brother and dad would gang bang you but seriously homo i aint interested. Now go and piss on his grave fucking jailbird
@aSingleDalIasguy You're an idiot. For one thing, Bruce Lee's fighting form was JKD - JKD isn't a specific style, it's just bringing together what you know about fighting and taking in what you know works ("Absorbing what's useful") and getting rid of what's useless.
JKD could easily be worse than Wing Chun. But it could also easily be better, depending on personal experience, and depth of knowledge.
@damage2 Bruce Lee used it to absorb the best from martial arts. But it;s techniques and principles are (admittedly by Bruce Lee I believe) based of Wing Chun theories, which prior was his first and main martial arts style.
@sickness324 Which is why it could easily be worse, and could easily be better. If you adopt a move from a fighting style, but it leaves an opening or causes you damage, then that's probably worse than taking up Wing Chun alone.
However, if you adopt a moveset that allows for follow-ups, has low recoil, is fast and is also powerful - Then it's easily a better style than Wing Chun (And almost all other styles, actually).
But, yeah, they use the same balance and centering ideas aswell as others :)
@Frostbite864 Right lets cut the crap oh here it is again the word crap why is it that every time i reply you the word crap pops up why? you will be known from hence forth Frostycrapbite. Sounds much better dont you think. never mind you're and your you made a mistake while spelling Bruce LMAO you called him BRUE hahaha fucking retard now go clean your wait i will do this one more YOUR hahaha yeah your ass and eat the crap
wing chun is a great martial art and is flexible when combining techniques from other schools. However I don't like these word games/fights that happen. If other's can't see how wing chun is indeed effective, then leave them to their narrow ways. It's not like they're helping themselves by doing so, with nothing to prove. So a wing chun practitioner should have nothing to show to these kinds of people who are probably losers. Just chill, enjoy the art those who found themselves in wing chun :]
Be understood by >346,000,000 people(US & Canada) if you want, or by 89,000,000 (UK + Aus + NZ).
Surely the little people in England et al can understand the larger population's vocabs, so I really can't see the advantage of clinging to the limiting route.
@DizzyDerwish ok whatever freak! talking about so many understanding yet i cant understand wtf your going on about but hey what ever flows your boat dude
@DizzyDerwish your chatting so much shit its dripping every were maybe that 435 million took a shitter in your yankee fucking gob i couldnt give shit who understands what for those who do good for them for the ones who dont( ie yankee twats) fuck em and fuck you too :0)
@DizzyDerwish well has long has you understood thats good for me i always hated maths so i will leave that bit for nobs like you so we agree that you chat shit now i am happy :@)
Your self-confessed incompetence at math as is understood by 435 million people, or maths with an /s/ as you persist to say it for your 89 million, explains everything.
Be reminded that Wing Chun is a thinking man's craft, and you have no business here.
@DizzyDerwish who the fuck are to tell me were my business is motherfucking COCKSUCKING YANKEE BITCH GO FUCK YOUR HILLBILLY MAMA fucking pathetic shite half of the fucking time you dont know what the fuck your talking about thinking mans craft my fucking ass its attacking while defending @ the same time fuckface you go cause you dont know what your chatting about BUM BOI dizzy from chewing on too many mans dick mo like
Your emotional reaction to my advice that you leave Wing Chun to people with brains reveals how ill-suited you are facing the self-control required by Wing Chun masters... at least those in my lineage.
You are an outsider on an additional level.
Now take your internationally limited slang & jargon and just go away.
@DizzyDerwish Listen up BUM BOI i aint goin no were so Fuck you self control motherfucker you just about make it to the toilet and your lineage is of bitches hiding behind and screen living in a fantasy wonderland wing chun master my ass motherfucker you aint wing chun masters do less talk and more action the only thing your good at is typing and trust me wing chun is not for typists such has your self now fuck off typist bitch
@DizzyDerwish lol so now your trying to show me that your not mean by saying something absolutely pathetic come on we both know your a cruel and cold waste of space.
your reverse psychology shit aint gunna work on me little bro? ok big sister make sure you clean mr Kwoks balls nice yeah.
'Your' signifies belonging to 'you', as in: your short school bus; your limited slang; your uneducated brain, or your pathetic Wing Chun lineage... these are things belonging to 'you.'
Or did you mean 'you're', which is a contraction for 'you' + 'are'... ?
@DizzyDerwish WTF are you going on about see what i mean you chat bare shit man
fucking dickless typist pussy motherfucker make sense of what your trying to say what lineage? your bitch behind a screen check this motherfucker its you wrote "as in" when it should be "has in" none of the shit you say makes any sense i bet every one around you hates your like a fucking zombie . did i say i was from any lineage that was linked to wing chun no asswipe that was you not me you pathetic mistake
dizzy dickhead so lets get this straight what your saying is that one has to have a lineage in wing chun then he is worthy to EVEN comment well i say fuck you and your lineage bruce lee taught to all lineage or not so you can stick your lineage up your ass mate and while your there release all the shit thats coming out of your mouth
No discussion of Wing Chun should include a mention of Bruce Lee. Why?
Because he was an apostate of the style, and did not stay in it long enough to learn it all. It's no surprize he went his own way to make quotable exoticisms for the white man and we are happy he left.
Bruce Lee furthermore is a celeb.
What he did or said has no bearing on what we do in Wing Chun.
@DizzyDerwish white black brown i am sure no teacher or teaching includes race you sir are clearly a very uptight and racist type of self loving individual,Bruce lee was the legend yeah i agree he was a celeb but one who created a fighting style and a great one indeed narrow minds twats like you wouldnt understand if wing chun involves dickheads like you then its a good job that i am out that crowd. I wish Bruce lee was here to kick your ass. You are a rootless tree<- LOOOL
You are talking about Bruce Lee again. I told you not to.
He may only be cited for ripping off Wing Chun- or 'nicking' our stuff as you would say & only your fellow English momma's boys would understand you. He stood on our style's shoulders in every word & image he marketed to a population eager to buy anything Eastern, and shame on you for being among the gullible.
@DizzyDerwish so you think because you told me not i will stop, i am not the gullible one but you are Bruce was a true master of many arts he combined all of the best from each style and what exactly makes you think only english would understand me are you english erm no and you understand me this is were i make the point about you chatting shit again and you have just crapped all over your bullshit lineage LOOOL impotent mans seed shame on you
@qool786 and DizzyDerwish Alright guys, let's get a few things straight: Neither of you are completely right or wrong. Bruce Lee was indeed a skilled martial artist who rose to fame for his strength and acrobatic techniques, but he also took some amount of performance-enhancing drugs and even electrocuted himself to give his muscles more definition. He created his Jeet Kune Do through combining grappling, Wing Chun, and other forms of martial arts. He took the best from each art and combined it.
I understand your narrowed island slang because I have slapped the bitch out of so many of your ilk, and as they are about to hit the 'kerb' with their open 'gob,' they often squeal such terms.
@DizzyDerwish youve slapped the "bitch" out of so many yet you remain a "bitch" your self, the bitch in you will forever remain hence you will be a bitch forever ok "bitch" LMAO@you the "bitch"
@qool786 As I recall, Bruce Lee espoused humility, respect, honor and kindness. I see none of those in you or your petty internet squabbles. Those who do not understand or appreciate the fundamental philosophy behind the martial arts are not true martial artists.
@DizzyDerwish you're saying that these aren't chain punches? You obviously don't know what the fundamental punch of a chain punch really is then. Samuel Kwok was personally taught by Ip chun so he should know what he's doing. The Video you linked shows how you get to the point of actually applying the chain punch. Your comment of a "MISNAMED CLIP" is absolutely false.
First, Ip Chun was never taught by Yip(Ip) Man! One of his(YM's) stipulations was he would not teach family members. Shame you didn't know that.
Sam Kwok is therefore an inheritor of bogus WC, along with everybody in his defrauded line.
Second, Sam Kwok in this clip alludes to chain punching as akin to a flurry or a blitz of punches. He's among MANY with that skewed idea. That's why this clip is misnamed.
You'll find more on real chain-punching at fongswingchun.
@DizzyDerwish YM In fact he may have refrained from teaching his sons early on where most sources say that Ip Chun started at age 7(which is sort of false as he wasn't formally being taught, mainly because Ip man did not teach Wing Chun publicly) where he really started sometime around 1960. In fact Ip Chun had not even thought about teaching martial arts early on but was a teacher of history and music (something along those lines). But he still was taught Gong Fu by Ip man.
@DizzyDerwish I don't really find it convincing enough "Yip Man felt that relatives would not show him the respect that he deserved." A statement like that is no where near enough proof. You say you have more sources, I would like to see them but make sure they have at least some legitimacy, one statement from one article is not enough. I mean it's one thing to lie about being something and have nothing to show for it, but Ip Chun definitely does.
Listen to yourself. You discount Augustine Fong's word- Fong, a world-reknownd authority- a contemporary witness, like he's just some outsider passing on a rumor.
Another YT source is Liu Ming Fai who posted
"Ip Man Life Chronicle (English) Unique!"
Judge carefully now, and wonder if there could be something to these rumors after all, despite what Ip Chun's line is claiming.
Think how Ip Chun would respond to these contradictory voices who dare go against a bloodline claim.
@DizzyDerwish As stated in his historical accounts Fong never trained under Ip Man therefore he truly does not know him. Though one can say that he was passed down the knowledge from Ho Kam Ming, it was Chinese tradition to pass down Gong Fu skills to the next generation. And looking at the Ip Man Life Chronicle it shows a picture of 4 female students which contradicts "Yip Man felt that having women in a gung-fu school would be too disruptive" ---
I never said Ip man Life Chronicle was the most exhaustive proof there is.
That pic of the women 'students' may contradict what Fong has said about YM's philosophy, but in light of what Fong has said in person, I wonder if the pic of the women is correctly labelled.
That is precisely why I did not offer the Liu video first.
Sufficient for me is Fong's word on Ip Chun... Fong, a world-renowned authority on WC and a contemporary of IpC & the first-generation of HK WCers; the closest thing to a witness of the inner circle during the time of its inception.
I don't know Liu.
I only know that he is a HK WCer of an early generation...
The significant thing is he is not of Yip Man->Ho Kam Ming-> Fong's line yet he gives a similar account of Ip Chun.
@DizzyDerwish That video also contradicts the fact that Ip Chun and Ip Ching continued teaching Wing Chun (Fraud or not) with the wishes of their father. If YM had only limited interaction with them how would they learn Wing Chun? Ip Chun eventually became chairman of the VTAA but how would that happen if he doesn't even know Wing Chun? And don't say "Out of respect for bloodline." Ip Chun has the skills and proficiency to show for it.
The video "Ip Man Chronicle" says the sons had limited interaction with a very estranged father. They had come to HK to work and work. So they DIDN'T learn WC from him.
I can easily imagine bereaved people compelling Ip Chun & his bro to take charge, just as people have propelled Bruce Lee's daughter- an accountant- into action films.
What Ip Chun teaches at the VT Assoc. he might have picked up from any of YM's students... maybe even ole Willy Cheung!
@DizzyDerwish Yet in other sources said his sons had trained during the evenings when they returned from work. It may have seemed to the author of the movie (Who i need to point out is a second generation student) that they had limited interaction. I don't think YM's students trained with him all day and night. Did they train often? Probably, but enough to know the life problems of YM no.
@DizzyDerwish Chain punching can be defined in many ways. In Wing Chun one concept is to attack as much as possible within the period of opportunity you are given, thus some WC practitioner resort to Chain punching. Sam Kwok obviously doesn't explain how you would actually use chain punches because that's not the point he's trying to get across. He's putting out the fact of relaxation = <Power rather than locking elbows ect. He's not saying that you'll actually get somewhere with blitzing ect.
In this clip, Kwok alludes to an opportunity for a flurry or blitz of punches and uses the term chain punches. He's either being accidentally unclear OR he doesn't know chain punches. I responded to the 2nd possibility, knowing his lineage. Chain punches refer to the taking over of the opponent's every move with consecutive strikes. Their speed depends upon the opponent's speed. While they appear like a chain of strikes, there is trapping & maneuvering underpinning every motion.
@DizzyDerwish Though I do agree Kwok is very unclear about "What is chain punching." I still believe that's not his initial intention as I said before.
maybe Kwok will elaborate on chain punches as he understands them in another clip, but I suspect it will show only flurry & blitz; no trapping, no breaking timing. If not, I will eat my words.
So go to fongswingchun. There are a number of specific, mini seminar clips, including Fong's thought on the concept of chain punching, which you'll learn is a world more than a flurry or blitz of punches.
Again, 'chain punches' refer to the taking over of the opponent's every move with consecutive strikes. Therefore their speed depends upon the opponent's speed. While they appear like a chain of strikes, there is trapping & maneuvering underpinning every motion.
Commonly on YouTube, we see flurry punching. These unreliable blitzes would only amount to bashing the opponent's forearms because he'd certainly raise his arms to protect his face, and survive to swing when his moment came.
@DizzyDerwish ohi get it now thanx. it's basically each move intercepts their move as they are preparing to do it. so you sacrifice velocity for speed ie quick light attacks which then mean you basically dominate your attackers timing. just as they are about to attack they are getting attacked. chain punching also causes 'sensory overload' btw.
Yes, most everything you said is right, except where you said 'quick light-' they're not; & we 'sacrifice velocity for speed.' For our none-too-scientific purposes, there's no appreciable difference between V & S, being fairly interchangeable terms.
Done correctly, chain punches dominate the opponent; and this is not achieved by a flurry.
True chain punches are impossible to stop, whereas these flurries, as shown by so, so many on YT, easily could be blocked just by hunkering down.
@DizzyDerwish velocity just means haymaker type strikes ie where you accelerate your mass (fist) into the target ie accelerating on impact. whereas speed just means getting yoru first to that target as quickly as possible ie touching them would be the most speedy move but obviously a bit too ineffective.speed is needed to counter their timing just before they attack.
Read me now, believe me later: there is no appreciable difference between velocity & speed... one is a ratio, the other refers to a distance covered; and for our purposes, they are interchangeable terms.
Let's be clear- your perception that they are distinct creates an unnecessary vocab argument.
You also don't get speed.
You are actually talking about the need for correct timing.
Think: A series of fast but ill-timed motions can get you killed.
@DizzyDerwish you're right. forgive me for using the term velocity when really i think i meant acceleration. ie the velocity on impact is what causes damage but the timing of your impact ie just before they strike is crucial. therefore i refer to speed as surely being a factor if they are fast then you will need to be faster to interrupt them before/as they attack.
@DizzyDerwish yes you've reminded me to read those pdf's on his site. btw are you interested in sword fighting like samurai? also more farfetched are you interested in evolution/origins of life/society?
I'm not impressed by your research into my activities on YT.
It's not about who I may be or what I may do.
The only thing that has brought us together here is Sam Kwok's misconceptions(that's my position) regarding chain punches, and by extension the question of his depth of knowledge of Wing Chun and why that might be.
@DizzyDerwish ha i hadn't even looked on your channel m8! i just assumed similar minds follow similar learning. i'm afraid i now will look at yoru channel (if you havent blocked me for some weird reason) due to your answer. i'm perfectly aware of how this discussion started.
@DizzyDerwish ok you're good at giving knowledge on wing chun/martial arts. but dude what is wrong with you? why did you suddenly get startled and almost take offense when i asked you something other than martial arts. because i happen to like to learn more than just one thing as after all most things are related. seriously wtf.
@DizzyDerwish ok cool but. firsly i thought you had no more information to give about wing chun that i needed so i asked you about something else because you seemed likeminded to me. also stick to the premise but see how things unify. if you truly understand one thing well then you understand many things. evolution does in fact relate to wing chun because wing chun is a self defense system and we are animals so consider it an 'adaptation' as seen in evolution.
While all you've written just now may be reasonable, it is not within the scope of this discussion... viz. chain punches & Sami Kwok, which is the limit of your & my exchange.
Anything more or other than this is not germane to other YTers convened here.
All conversations here need to be limited to the narrowed theme of chain punching or possibly other motions incorrectly demonstrated here.
@davidcoco25 The point is to relax when hitting, being tense during the travel of the punch, and "release" your energy through your opponent upon contact - by relaxing... Sounds more confusing than it really is. The point of this is to not hold back some of your punch's power, by tensing up muscles during impact.
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Dear Sifu Kwok, Ive been doing the Chain punches but now im starting to hear a snapping sound coming from my right shoulder... I was practicing right before, could it be from going to fast?
you guys who think you know what you are talking about really fucking annoys me. sam kwok is a fucking master of wing chun kung fu and he KNOWS what he is talking about from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. Most of you have just read shitty little kung fu articles on someones blog and maybe done a lesson or two and now think you know what a proper chain punch is! how about you just listen to somone with experience and stop trying to be fucking smartasses.
1. Everyone on youtube are super deadly fighters, more skilled and capable of beating down any master of any style, regardless of who said master trained under. You can see examples of such internet warriors making comments on just about every martial art video on youtube.
2. Master Kwok has never appeared in UFC, therefore he cannot possibly know anything about "real" combat.
Oké, if u where right.. why does he stretch his arm with the chainpunsh? u have to hold your arm on the centerline (with your elbow to the centerline.
@efexor666 Have you even trained this? If you do a proper punch, you may not stretch your arm entirely at first contact with your opponent, but as soon as you make contact your punch should follow through, and "hit through" your opponent.
There is a guy on YouTube called Jin Young - he is very good at teaching Wing Chun techniques through videos, albeit a little long videos with some repetition. Check him out at "ChinaBoxer" and see his videos on Chain Punching and Straight Punching.
@berg89dk , i see what your saying, the only reason i dont like it is that if someone were to throw that type of punch at me and i was able to defend myself, the arms in a perfect position to be locked out, i am by no means belittling sam kwok!! this is my view from doin another type of wc
@Gamerszchannel Yeah I'm not so sure I'm so confused cuz I've seen people not extent all teh way because they claim the energy is then lost thro the elbow locking..so should there be a completely straight punch in wingchun or is there always supposed to be a slight angle?
Just keep your entire arm and fist loose and relaxed during the entire motion of the punch. If you do that, then your elbow will automatically snap back to a slightly bent position after the punch terminates. That's all there is to it.
The effect is more noticeable when punching in the air cuz the arm is able to extend all the way to a straight position before snapping back to a bent position, but when hitting a target it wont extend all the way. In either case, stay loose.
literally lethal if taught correctly
PanteraFistPrint 1 month ago
Um he should get the hand mits.
09tranm 3 months ago
@ 2:09 - OUCH!!
gilgamesh777amg 5 months ago
thank you for sharing :]
DaeWixr 5 months ago
that guy on the right felt the pain lol
thefakeguy 5 months ago
I'm wondering, should one not completely extend the arm at any point during a straight punch? I find it hard to generate the proper power without extending completely.
fafner3d 6 months ago
@fafner3d ideally, your fist should have connected with the target Before you completely extend, You risk hyper extension on your elbow, and its practically hard to actually hit your target at the exact same point you completely extended your arms, any later and all power is lost
fanthor 6 months ago
@fanthor I see, thanks:D
fafner3d 6 months ago
i like it... this lesson very usefull to me... thank you sifu Sam Kwok... i want to learn more about wing chun...
UdhaBlade 6 months ago
Nice video, i do muay thai judo and i recently started wing chun, i just passed my first wing chun grading, i can do straight punches, but without the fluency or speed, also im not clear on where the power comes from, do you tense and push when you make contact or something? Any advice would be much appreciated :) (and i feel slightly sorry for the hand man D:)
TheSamBTube 6 months ago
@TheSamBTube it comes from the elbows extension.
MrItzdeath 6 months ago
@TheSamBTube The power of the punch, and of pretty much every move from wing chun (no matter which school) comes from the hips and thus the structure. This is because the elbow gets his power from the hips. so use you're whole body as the force behind the punch. Don't move your body though, else you gotta switch you're whole body through the hip (that way it generates more power, you'll learn that from the second form chum kiu).
Boxers use the same technique but they lose their structure doin so
AnamiLoka 6 months ago
@AnamiLoka Yes correct. I recommend when at first trying to learn to execute a punch from the hip, doing the boxing method. That way its easier to feel the gain of power you get from the hip. After you recognized it, use it in the wing chun punch.
Spydercocaine 1 month ago
I'm trying to master the Wing Chun punch but I can't seem to keep my shoulders relaxed.
Frostbite864 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 try sticking your head up you ass it might just help
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 So I can walk around with my head up my ass like you? I don't think so. Like I said, if Brue Lee were alive to see you trying to start shit on the internet he would hang his head in shame. Look at you, you're an idiot conspiracy theorist who yells at anyone who doesn't think the same way he does. Maybe when you grow up and mature you'll cut the internet toughguy bullshit.
Frostbite864 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 seriously get a fucking life you twat faced dick head this youtube not your mamas kitchen you like to say shit to people and when they say shit back you cant take it LMAO your cry baby bitch i didnt start this but i sure as hell am going to finish it oh yeah your heads up you ass thats why you talk so much shit
qool786 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 hmm martial arts instructor some instructor you are your a shame to all martial arts instructor ok i may be a dick from time to time and yes i agree ive got issues but you an INSTRUCTOR really i cant believe its come to this that martial arts instructors would steep so low. so tell me whats the conspiracy in having a joke? were did the conspiracy shit come from?were the hell did pull that one from ? really feel sorry for who ever you teach like i said i made a joke a harmless
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 cont* yeah has i was saying i made a harmless fucking joke but your friend over there the little bitch was being a smart ass so im minding my own business keeping the conversation going with that pig headed piece of shit dizzy twat and in comes you MR INSTRUCTOR now tell me has an instructor is that what you teach your student to go and poke your nose and insult others and get insulted at the same time and you say im the one whos got the tough guy shit going on take a look in the mirror
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work. You're the one who's acting like a pathetic child throwing a tantrum. No one even knows what you're fucking problem is because you just attack people for no reason. I'm talking about the conspiracy bullshit on your page about how "9/11 was an inside job." You're the one who is intentionally picking fights based on which martial art you think is the best. I think you're just angry because you KNOW that Bruce would not approve of your actions
Frostbite864 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 lol seriously man get a grip you replied to my comment first and now your saying its my fault grow some balls please now this the problem with people like you let me explain mr instructor i wasnt discussing which martial art is best i was making a point and the point was that Bruce taught all no matter what back ground,lineage,creed,colour,belief sytem they were from and your friend over there was saying wing chun is only for his retarded lineage now whats wrong with that
qool786 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 look man i believe what i believe and you can believe what you believe my problem is when dick heads like you who claim to be so and so cant come up with something sensible to say often try and pick out some thing that they can use ok wow ive got some conspiracy thing on my page what has that got to do with what we are discussing your maneuvers are child like picking on stupid things to keep a crap convo going on man you really do suck some instructer/teacher you are shame on you
qool786 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 "Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work" your pathetic lol right i am having this long conversation with that dizzy freak and out of no were you came out with your bullshit comment so im basically stating facts how is that ME trying to flip this on YOU? one word mr instructer and that is PATHETIC! LOOL this is on your conscience man and you keep it there
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 My conscience is clean. Idiots like you don't bother me, but I must say that your spelling and grammar are quite annoying to read. Seriously, Hellen Keller could've put together a more coherent sentence than you. I reccomend that you go back to school and learn the difference between "your" and "you're."
Frostbite864 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 lol again same childish ways your conscience is clean and idiots like me dont bother you? ok is that why your getting so worked up or is it you homo fag gay feelings boiling up. once i learned that you were an instructor i tried to refrain from saying shit to you but guess what i just learned something and that is(drum rolls please) that your a crap has an instructor and crap has a man and even worse when it comes to saying crap on here how many craps are oh ive lost count loool
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 Lol did you seriously fill out 5 entire comment boxes just so you could try and sling more shit at me? I think you're becoming obsessed. I don't even have the time to read all of this. If it would make you feel better I can always pretend like I care enough to go over all of it like a bored parent looking at a child's "art" and feigning excitement. I'm sure you could use the validation.
Frostbite864 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 Hahahaha you really are worse than i thought LOOOOL seriously you cant be an instructor your full of shit. Your telling me you dont care and that this type of thing aint you and yet like the dick that you are you still replied HAHAHAHAHA how fuckin awesome is that. Hats off and a round of applause to you because you sir must be THE biggest twat faced dick on the youtube community (and thats pretty fuckin big)
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 Lol what a whiney little faggot. Bruce Lee was a pussy and so are you for thinking that his shit was any better than Wing Chun. It must be easy for bitches like you to talk shit over the internet but if you were in a street fight you would never be able to back it up you stupid muslim terrorist fuckhead. Why don't you go blow up a building or something you punkass bitch nigger.
aSingleDalIasguy 8 months ago
@aSingleDalIasguy oh here comes another tough guy. Please dont say that im scared really mr homo username. Look i know you were abused has a child i got your personal message were you that your dad used fuck you up ass and then shit in your gob and how his brother and dad would gang bang you but seriously homo i aint interested. Now go and piss on his grave fucking jailbird
qool786 8 months ago
@aSingleDalIasguy You're an idiot. For one thing, Bruce Lee's fighting form was JKD - JKD isn't a specific style, it's just bringing together what you know about fighting and taking in what you know works ("Absorbing what's useful") and getting rid of what's useless.
JKD could easily be worse than Wing Chun. But it could also easily be better, depending on personal experience, and depth of knowledge.
damage2 8 months ago
@damage2 Bruce Lee used it to absorb the best from martial arts. But it;s techniques and principles are (admittedly by Bruce Lee I believe) based of Wing Chun theories, which prior was his first and main martial arts style.
sickness324 8 months ago
@sickness324 Which is why it could easily be worse, and could easily be better. If you adopt a move from a fighting style, but it leaves an opening or causes you damage, then that's probably worse than taking up Wing Chun alone.
However, if you adopt a moveset that allows for follow-ups, has low recoil, is fast and is also powerful - Then it's easily a better style than Wing Chun (And almost all other styles, actually).
But, yeah, they use the same balance and centering ideas aswell as others :)
damage2 8 months ago
@Frostbitegayhomocockluvingasslickingtrannymanlover
qool786 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 Right lets cut the crap oh here it is again the word crap why is it that every time i reply you the word crap pops up why? you will be known from hence forth Frostycrapbite. Sounds much better dont you think. never mind you're and your you made a mistake while spelling Bruce LMAO you called him BRUE hahaha fucking retard now go clean your wait i will do this one more YOUR hahaha yeah your ass and eat the crap
qool786 8 months ago
wing chun is a great martial art and is flexible when combining techniques from other schools. However I don't like these word games/fights that happen. If other's can't see how wing chun is indeed effective, then leave them to their narrow ways. It's not like they're helping themselves by doing so, with nothing to prove. So a wing chun practitioner should have nothing to show to these kinds of people who are probably losers. Just chill, enjoy the art those who found themselves in wing chun :]
Cruzifixer 9 months ago
@Cruzifixer Amen
dogooda12 9 months ago
the guy taking the punches is probably thinking " oh there goes my wanking hand" lol
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
'wanking?'
Speak English, the language of the internet.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish erm how about go fuck yourself? is that better?
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
Much better, in my opinion.
I mean it's still your choice:
Be understood by >346,000,000 people(US & Canada) if you want, or by 89,000,000 (UK + Aus + NZ).
Surely the little people in England et al can understand the larger population's vocabs, so I really can't see the advantage of clinging to the limiting route.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish ok whatever freak! talking about so many understanding yet i cant understand wtf your going on about but hey what ever flows your boat dude
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
Clearly and slowly for you now:
Say 'wanking' hand and only 89 million people understand; those in the UK, Aus and NZ.
Say 'jerking off' hand and your 89 million PLUS the 346 million North Americans understand.
Choose the vernacular of the majority and more people will understand your message!
I would rather prove you are a 'jerk-off' to 435 million people than a 'wanker' to only 89 million.
You get it now, don't you?
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish your chatting so much shit its dripping every were maybe that 435 million took a shitter in your yankee fucking gob i couldnt give shit who understands what for those who do good for them for the ones who dont( ie yankee twats) fuck em and fuck you too :0)
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
NOW you're getting it!
Except that for the vast majority, 'gob,' and 'twat' are meaningless.
That means what you say is... vastly meaningless.
Do the math:
89m + 346m = 435m.
That's how many people understand when I call you a fudge-packer.
Only 89m see you in the correct light if I call you a sod.
89 vs 435.
Choose.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish well has long has you understood thats good for me i always hated maths so i will leave that bit for nobs like you so we agree that you chat shit now i am happy :@)
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
Your self-confessed incompetence at math as is understood by 435 million people, or maths with an /s/ as you persist to say it for your 89 million, explains everything.
Be reminded that Wing Chun is a thinking man's craft, and you have no business here.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish who the fuck are to tell me were my business is motherfucking COCKSUCKING YANKEE BITCH GO FUCK YOUR HILLBILLY MAMA fucking pathetic shite half of the fucking time you dont know what the fuck your talking about thinking mans craft my fucking ass its attacking while defending @ the same time fuckface you go cause you dont know what your chatting about BUM BOI dizzy from chewing on too many mans dick mo like
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
Your emotional reaction to my advice that you leave Wing Chun to people with brains reveals how ill-suited you are facing the self-control required by Wing Chun masters... at least those in my lineage.
You are an outsider on an additional level.
Now take your internationally limited slang & jargon and just go away.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish Listen up BUM BOI i aint goin no were so Fuck you self control motherfucker you just about make it to the toilet and your lineage is of bitches hiding behind and screen living in a fantasy wonderland wing chun master my ass motherfucker you aint wing chun masters do less talk and more action the only thing your good at is typing and trust me wing chun is not for typists such has your self now fuck off typist bitch
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
I did not say I was a master. I'm many, many years away from it.
However, it doesn't take any kind of master to spot an uneducated, English momma's boy with little WC experience a mile away.
Little Bro, you are out of your league here. So leave.
Oh- actually, maybe not- don't leave- Sam Kwok's WC may be just right for you.
(That is the meanest thing I have ever said to another human being.)
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish lol so now your trying to show me that your not mean by saying something absolutely pathetic come on we both know your a cruel and cold waste of space.
your reverse psychology shit aint gunna work on me little bro? ok big sister make sure you clean mr Kwoks balls nice yeah.
like i said i aint going nowhere old fart!!!!
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
You wrote "...your trying to show..."
My trying to show what?
You also wrote "... that your not mean..."
My not mean what? "...your a cruel..."
My a cruel? My a cruel what?
None of it makes any sense!
'Your' signifies belonging to 'you', as in: your short school bus; your limited slang; your uneducated brain, or your pathetic Wing Chun lineage... these are things belonging to 'you.'
Or did you mean 'you're', which is a contraction for 'you' + 'are'... ?
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish WTF are you going on about see what i mean you chat bare shit man
fucking dickless typist pussy motherfucker make sense of what your trying to say what lineage? your bitch behind a screen check this motherfucker its you wrote "as in" when it should be "has in" none of the shit you say makes any sense i bet every one around you hates your like a fucking zombie . did i say i was from any lineage that was linked to wing chun no asswipe that was you not me you pathetic mistake
qool786 9 months ago
@qool786
NOW you say I wrote "has in" whereas I should have written "as in."
I looked, but all I found was my correct "as in" above; no "has in," as you claim. Maybe you misread or maybe you were reading someone else's comment?
It is not me who is prone to typos.
If you indeed have no Wing Chun lineage, you should not be commenting here.
You are an outsider.
You do not know what you are watching and are not worthy to speak even if you did know the difference between "your" and "you're".
DizzyDerwish 8 months ago
dizzy dickhead so lets get this straight what your saying is that one has to have a lineage in wing chun then he is worthy to EVEN comment well i say fuck you and your lineage bruce lee taught to all lineage or not so you can stick your lineage up your ass mate and while your there release all the shit thats coming out of your mouth
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786
No discussion of Wing Chun should include a mention of Bruce Lee. Why?
Because he was an apostate of the style, and did not stay in it long enough to learn it all. It's no surprize he went his own way to make quotable exoticisms for the white man and we are happy he left.
Bruce Lee furthermore is a celeb.
What he did or said has no bearing on what we do in Wing Chun.
You are a rootless tree.
DizzyDerwish 8 months ago
@DizzyDerwish white black brown i am sure no teacher or teaching includes race you sir are clearly a very uptight and racist type of self loving individual,Bruce lee was the legend yeah i agree he was a celeb but one who created a fighting style and a great one indeed narrow minds twats like you wouldnt understand if wing chun involves dickheads like you then its a good job that i am out that crowd. I wish Bruce lee was here to kick your ass. You are a rootless tree<- LOOOL
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786
You are talking about Bruce Lee again. I told you not to.
He may only be cited for ripping off Wing Chun- or 'nicking' our stuff as you would say & only your fellow English momma's boys would understand you. He stood on our style's shoulders in every word & image he marketed to a population eager to buy anything Eastern, and shame on you for being among the gullible.
Do keep your crowd and go away.
DizzyDerwish 8 months ago
@DizzyDerwish so you think because you told me not i will stop, i am not the gullible one but you are Bruce was a true master of many arts he combined all of the best from each style and what exactly makes you think only english would understand me are you english erm no and you understand me this is were i make the point about you chatting shit again and you have just crapped all over your bullshit lineage LOOOL impotent mans seed shame on you
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 and DizzyDerwish Alright guys, let's get a few things straight: Neither of you are completely right or wrong. Bruce Lee was indeed a skilled martial artist who rose to fame for his strength and acrobatic techniques, but he also took some amount of performance-enhancing drugs and even electrocuted himself to give his muscles more definition. He created his Jeet Kune Do through combining grappling, Wing Chun, and other forms of martial arts. He took the best from each art and combined it.
Pingbo97 8 months ago
@Pingbo97 thank you
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786
I understand your narrowed island slang because I have slapped the bitch out of so many of your ilk, and as they are about to hit the 'kerb' with their open 'gob,' they often squeal such terms.
DizzyDerwish 8 months ago
@DizzyDerwish youve slapped the "bitch" out of so many yet you remain a "bitch" your self, the bitch in you will forever remain hence you will be a bitch forever ok "bitch" LMAO@you the "bitch"
qool786 8 months ago
@qool786 As I recall, Bruce Lee espoused humility, respect, honor and kindness. I see none of those in you or your petty internet squabbles. Those who do not understand or appreciate the fundamental philosophy behind the martial arts are not true martial artists.
Frostbite864 8 months ago
@Frostbite864 kiss my ass
qool786 8 months ago
ANOTHER misnamed clip. No chain punches here.
Those interested in Wing Chun chain punches should see Augustine Fong.
DizzyDerwish 10 months ago
@DizzyDerwish lol u dont know what ur talking about
TheIpmanFan 9 months ago
@TheIpmanFan
In fact I do know what I'm talking about.
Here's a link that will make my point clearer for you. Type in
?v=jJRLK_4zy10
Here comes your humbling!
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish you're saying that these aren't chain punches? You obviously don't know what the fundamental punch of a chain punch really is then. Samuel Kwok was personally taught by Ip chun so he should know what he's doing. The Video you linked shows how you get to the point of actually applying the chain punch. Your comment of a "MISNAMED CLIP" is absolutely false.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
Couple things:
First, Ip Chun was never taught by Yip(Ip) Man! One of his(YM's) stipulations was he would not teach family members. Shame you didn't know that.
Sam Kwok is therefore an inheritor of bogus WC, along with everybody in his defrauded line.
Second, Sam Kwok in this clip alludes to chain punching as akin to a flurry or a blitz of punches. He's among MANY with that skewed idea. That's why this clip is misnamed.
You'll find more on real chain-punching at fongswingchun.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish YM In fact he may have refrained from teaching his sons early on where most sources say that Ip Chun started at age 7(which is sort of false as he wasn't formally being taught, mainly because Ip man did not teach Wing Chun publicly) where he really started sometime around 1960. In fact Ip Chun had not even thought about teaching martial arts early on but was a teacher of history and music (something along those lines). But he still was taught Gong Fu by Ip man.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
Your belief that IpC was taught by YM is not supported by contemporary witnesses outside IpC's line.
Again, go to fongswingchun and check his History articles. I can pass you another Hong Kong source if Fong's position is not clear enough.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish I don't really find it convincing enough "Yip Man felt that relatives would not show him the respect that he deserved." A statement like that is no where near enough proof. You say you have more sources, I would like to see them but make sure they have at least some legitimacy, one statement from one article is not enough. I mean it's one thing to lie about being something and have nothing to show for it, but Ip Chun definitely does.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
Listen to yourself. You discount Augustine Fong's word- Fong, a world-reknownd authority- a contemporary witness, like he's just some outsider passing on a rumor.
Another YT source is Liu Ming Fai who posted
"Ip Man Life Chronicle (English) Unique!"
Judge carefully now, and wonder if there could be something to these rumors after all, despite what Ip Chun's line is claiming.
Think how Ip Chun would respond to these contradictory voices who dare go against a bloodline claim.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish As stated in his historical accounts Fong never trained under Ip Man therefore he truly does not know him. Though one can say that he was passed down the knowledge from Ho Kam Ming, it was Chinese tradition to pass down Gong Fu skills to the next generation. And looking at the Ip Man Life Chronicle it shows a picture of 4 female students which contradicts "Yip Man felt that having women in a gung-fu school would be too disruptive" ---
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
I never said Ip man Life Chronicle was the most exhaustive proof there is.
That pic of the women 'students' may contradict what Fong has said about YM's philosophy, but in light of what Fong has said in person, I wonder if the pic of the women is correctly labelled.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish Which questions the authenticity of what Liu (I forget the rest of his name) is preaching is true.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
That is precisely why I did not offer the Liu video first.
Sufficient for me is Fong's word on Ip Chun... Fong, a world-renowned authority on WC and a contemporary of IpC & the first-generation of HK WCers; the closest thing to a witness of the inner circle during the time of its inception.
I don't know Liu.
I only know that he is a HK WCer of an early generation...
The significant thing is he is not of Yip Man->Ho Kam Ming-> Fong's line yet he gives a similar account of Ip Chun.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish That video also contradicts the fact that Ip Chun and Ip Ching continued teaching Wing Chun (Fraud or not) with the wishes of their father. If YM had only limited interaction with them how would they learn Wing Chun? Ip Chun eventually became chairman of the VTAA but how would that happen if he doesn't even know Wing Chun? And don't say "Out of respect for bloodline." Ip Chun has the skills and proficiency to show for it.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
You make my point for me.
The video "Ip Man Chronicle" says the sons had limited interaction with a very estranged father. They had come to HK to work and work. So they DIDN'T learn WC from him.
I can easily imagine bereaved people compelling Ip Chun & his bro to take charge, just as people have propelled Bruce Lee's daughter- an accountant- into action films.
What Ip Chun teaches at the VT Assoc. he might have picked up from any of YM's students... maybe even ole Willy Cheung!
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish Yet in other sources said his sons had trained during the evenings when they returned from work. It may have seemed to the author of the movie (Who i need to point out is a second generation student) that they had limited interaction. I don't think YM's students trained with him all day and night. Did they train often? Probably, but enough to know the life problems of YM no.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish Chain punching can be defined in many ways. In Wing Chun one concept is to attack as much as possible within the period of opportunity you are given, thus some WC practitioner resort to Chain punching. Sam Kwok obviously doesn't explain how you would actually use chain punches because that's not the point he's trying to get across. He's putting out the fact of relaxation = <Power rather than locking elbows ect. He's not saying that you'll actually get somewhere with blitzing ect.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
In this clip, Kwok alludes to an opportunity for a flurry or blitz of punches and uses the term chain punches. He's either being accidentally unclear OR he doesn't know chain punches. I responded to the 2nd possibility, knowing his lineage. Chain punches refer to the taking over of the opponent's every move with consecutive strikes. Their speed depends upon the opponent's speed. While they appear like a chain of strikes, there is trapping & maneuvering underpinning every motion.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish Though I do agree Kwok is very unclear about "What is chain punching." I still believe that's not his initial intention as I said before.
Arbiter1231 9 months ago
@Arbiter1231
Okay.
maybe Kwok will elaborate on chain punches as he understands them in another clip, but I suspect it will show only flurry & blitz; no trapping, no breaking timing. If not, I will eat my words.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish so whats ur point? these are chain punches? not fast enough for u? not powefull enough?ß
TheIpmanFan 9 months ago
@TheIpmanFan
Here's an idea to blow your mind: Chain punch speed is determined by the opponent!
Wrap your head around THAT, little brother, you who think that speed is an issue.
As for power, that's something yet again.
It's about TIMING... Your opponent's timing.
Check fongswingchun.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish i'm intrigued about this timing you mention.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
So go to fongswingchun. There are a number of specific, mini seminar clips, including Fong's thought on the concept of chain punching, which you'll learn is a world more than a flurry or blitz of punches.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
Again, 'chain punches' refer to the taking over of the opponent's every move with consecutive strikes. Therefore their speed depends upon the opponent's speed. While they appear like a chain of strikes, there is trapping & maneuvering underpinning every motion.
Commonly on YouTube, we see flurry punching. These unreliable blitzes would only amount to bashing the opponent's forearms because he'd certainly raise his arms to protect his face, and survive to swing when his moment came.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish ohi get it now thanx. it's basically each move intercepts their move as they are preparing to do it. so you sacrifice velocity for speed ie quick light attacks which then mean you basically dominate your attackers timing. just as they are about to attack they are getting attacked. chain punching also causes 'sensory overload' btw.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
Yes, most everything you said is right, except where you said 'quick light-' they're not; & we 'sacrifice velocity for speed.' For our none-too-scientific purposes, there's no appreciable difference between V & S, being fairly interchangeable terms.
Done correctly, chain punches dominate the opponent; and this is not achieved by a flurry.
True chain punches are impossible to stop, whereas these flurries, as shown by so, so many on YT, easily could be blocked just by hunkering down.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish velocity just means haymaker type strikes ie where you accelerate your mass (fist) into the target ie accelerating on impact. whereas speed just means getting yoru first to that target as quickly as possible ie touching them would be the most speedy move but obviously a bit too ineffective.speed is needed to counter their timing just before they attack.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
Read me now, believe me later: there is no appreciable difference between velocity & speed... one is a ratio, the other refers to a distance covered; and for our purposes, they are interchangeable terms.
Let's be clear- your perception that they are distinct creates an unnecessary vocab argument.
You also don't get speed.
You are actually talking about the need for correct timing.
Think: A series of fast but ill-timed motions can get you killed.
Whoever's timing is right wins.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish you're right. forgive me for using the term velocity when really i think i meant acceleration. ie the velocity on impact is what causes damage but the timing of your impact ie just before they strike is crucial. therefore i refer to speed as surely being a factor if they are fast then you will need to be faster to interrupt them before/as they attack.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
I can live with all that. Fong calls it 'breaking timing.'
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish yes you've reminded me to read those pdf's on his site. btw are you interested in sword fighting like samurai? also more farfetched are you interested in evolution/origins of life/society?
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
I'm not impressed by your research into my activities on YT.
It's not about who I may be or what I may do.
The only thing that has brought us together here is Sam Kwok's misconceptions(that's my position) regarding chain punches, and by extension the question of his depth of knowledge of Wing Chun and why that might be.
Stick to the premise.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish ha i hadn't even looked on your channel m8! i just assumed similar minds follow similar learning. i'm afraid i now will look at yoru channel (if you havent blocked me for some weird reason) due to your answer. i'm perfectly aware of how this discussion started.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
My channel?
AGAIN, it's not about who I may be.
It's about a professor and his chain punches- Mr. Kwok-o-Krap here.
Stick to the premise.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish ok you're good at giving knowledge on wing chun/martial arts. but dude what is wrong with you? why did you suddenly get startled and almost take offense when i asked you something other than martial arts. because i happen to like to learn more than just one thing as after all most things are related. seriously wtf.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
Fault me for sticking to the premise.
That very habit of mind is central to Wing Chun.
Stick to the premise- trim the extraneous- don't respond to distractors.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish ok cool but. firsly i thought you had no more information to give about wing chun that i needed so i asked you about something else because you seemed likeminded to me. also stick to the premise but see how things unify. if you truly understand one thing well then you understand many things. evolution does in fact relate to wing chun because wing chun is a self defense system and we are animals so consider it an 'adaptation' as seen in evolution.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
@maxgunn555
While all you've written just now may be reasonable, it is not within the scope of this discussion... viz. chain punches & Sami Kwok, which is the limit of your & my exchange.
Anything more or other than this is not germane to other YTers convened here.
All conversations here need to be limited to the narrowed theme of chain punching or possibly other motions incorrectly demonstrated here.
DizzyDerwish 9 months ago
@DizzyDerwish ok then.
maxgunn555 9 months ago
Why isn't he punching at head height???
Assasin96Production 10 months ago
so do u squeeze hard or not?
davidcoco25 10 months ago
@davidcoco25 The point is to relax when hitting, being tense during the travel of the punch, and "release" your energy through your opponent upon contact - by relaxing... Sounds more confusing than it really is. The point of this is to not hold back some of your punch's power, by tensing up muscles during impact.
berg89dk 10 months ago
Soz guys my bro is being a twat soz lol
Assasin96Production 11 months ago
thats so poor. hurting his pupils to demonstrate that wimpy ass gaytechnik... pff.
Leichenfaeule 11 months ago
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FoxFlamez 10 months ago
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FoxFlamez 10 months ago
I it just me, but at: 0:01 did he say hooker?
nihang01 1 year ago
as artes marciais,são formidáveis,merecen rspeito,pois nos preparam para o auto-controle,são artes transformadoras,equilibram o ser humano.pena não as conhecer todas,vi e adorei
aglaeify 1 year ago
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DanTheWolfman1 1 year ago
Dear Sifu Kwok, Ive been doing the Chain punches but now im starting to hear a snapping sound coming from my right shoulder... I was practicing right before, could it be from going to fast?
GregK28002 1 year ago
@GregK28002 I guess you're doing it right then, since every time he punched in the video with his right hand, I heard a small snap.
sarkasmi83 1 year ago
nice video. do those punches somehow try to intimidate the opponent?
bobo4451 1 year ago
No offense though but my teacher(sifu) is 100x better than he is
Assasin96Production 1 year ago
@Assasin96Production who's your sifu? just curious
moondragon05 1 year ago
@Assasin96Production
Who's your sifu?
Nephronial 1 year ago
@Assasin96Production You can't judge his skill and knowledge just from this video, that's so naive.
FizzySoap 11 months ago
you guys who think you know what you are talking about really fucking annoys me. sam kwok is a fucking master of wing chun kung fu and he KNOWS what he is talking about from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. Most of you have just read shitty little kung fu articles on someones blog and maybe done a lesson or two and now think you know what a proper chain punch is! how about you just listen to somone with experience and stop trying to be fucking smartasses.
jaski555 1 year ago 34
@jaski555 You sound like a guy who thinks he knows what you are talking about.
sarkasmi83 1 year ago
@jaski555 You seem to be overlooking 2 things:
1. Everyone on youtube are super deadly fighters, more skilled and capable of beating down any master of any style, regardless of who said master trained under. You can see examples of such internet warriors making comments on just about every martial art video on youtube.
2. Master Kwok has never appeared in UFC, therefore he cannot possibly know anything about "real" combat.
DickBeeter 1 year ago
@jaski555
Oké, if u where right.. why does he stretch his arm with the chainpunsh? u have to hold your arm on the centerline (with your elbow to the centerline.
efexor666 10 months ago
@efexor666 Have you even trained this? If you do a proper punch, you may not stretch your arm entirely at first contact with your opponent, but as soon as you make contact your punch should follow through, and "hit through" your opponent.
There is a guy on YouTube called Jin Young - he is very good at teaching Wing Chun techniques through videos, albeit a little long videos with some repetition. Check him out at "ChinaBoxer" and see his videos on Chain Punching and Straight Punching.
berg89dk 10 months ago
@berg89dk , i see what your saying, the only reason i dont like it is that if someone were to throw that type of punch at me and i was able to defend myself, the arms in a perfect position to be locked out, i am by no means belittling sam kwok!! this is my view from doin another type of wc
eamon37 10 months ago
@jaski555 agreed mate good work
GuitarProNZ 9 months ago
You dont have to stretch you're arm al the way...
You need to relax as you go in but at the impact you only use energy and after relax.
If i'm wrong pls correct me :)
Gamerszchannel 1 year ago
@Gamerszchannel Yeah I'm not so sure I'm so confused cuz I've seen people not extent all teh way because they claim the energy is then lost thro the elbow locking..so should there be a completely straight punch in wingchun or is there always supposed to be a slight angle?
frozenchillpill 1 year ago
@frozenchillpill I think there should be a slight angle...
And you gotta punch with your elbow behind your fist so you have max power.
Gamerszchannel 1 year ago
@frozenchillpill
Just keep your entire arm and fist loose and relaxed during the entire motion of the punch. If you do that, then your elbow will automatically snap back to a slightly bent position after the punch terminates. That's all there is to it.
The effect is more noticeable when punching in the air cuz the arm is able to extend all the way to a straight position before snapping back to a bent position, but when hitting a target it wont extend all the way. In either case, stay loose.
Nephronial 1 year ago
i think you guys should try buying his vdieo to get a better footage of ip man's wing chun.
hakimteo 1 year ago
Super Erklärung über die Kettenfaustschläge! Habe ich so in meiner Schule noch nicht gehört oder gezeigt bekommen!
Best explanation for Chainpunches! Never got it this way in my school. Thanks a lot!!
sdaebler 1 year ago
huh?
golfer15963 1 year ago
Nice video. I feel sorry for the guy taking the punches though. It looks like they hurt.
tj10035 1 year ago 15
@tj10035 If sifu Kwok was punching my hand it would hurt and I have trained in wing chun for many years!
Chewyfied 1 year ago
Thanks!
DaWeedlord 2 years ago
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really good video
siguenza69 2 years ago
thanks sifu ...good video
karim300080 2 years ago
5/5 cool
KiIlerman 2 years ago
great video
thanks
MrMohamed1407 2 years ago
ouch...
phoenixifist 2 years ago