ACORN: LA Story Program for Torture Victims Part I

[trucker21375]

i hope lavelle gets her ass BEAT

[PrayerWarrior4]

keep it up and be careful man!!

[bla34112]

hey.. do you know what acorn does?

[hellevonequities]

That Acorn worker was very helpful. Prostitution should be legalized. Even with 14+15 year olds if they voluntarily want to do it. If they don't voluntarily want to do it, ie. they are coerced, then it should be illegal.

[electralovely]

oh mah goodness.

[ObamaTheRealLoser]

You know what? CLEARLY I'm no Obama supporter or even Mccain but this can't be typical of ACORN. I also see the racist comments as if blacks would want this type of shit in thier communities. You all can't be serious??? FACT:Dems & Reps are part of the same group. They give you the idea that you have a choice when in truth you don't. Wise up, dummies.

[rebelrouser444]

wow.

[Muawiye]

what a snitch ass bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CowboyBebop444]

i see what they are trying to expose here, but how did they this wouldnt backfire on them and these people wouldnt call the cops on them and get them arrested and the public thinking they were trying to solicit sex.

[greatdestroyer1]

Not waste of time. This was spot on gj man.

[sjcpal]

Hannah is a Whore , plain and simple Whore.

[Silberdachs]

Caught. Red. Handed.

[VeritasVerificatrion]

After viciously & obstinately attacking ACORN defenders for saying that the sting-videos were edited for content, & after completely dismissing the idea that everyone deserves a fair trial, or that people shouldnt rush to judge, its truly ironic that O'Keefe, Breitbart etc... are using those same arguments to make James seem innocent. "Dont judge before all the facts are in", "innocent until proven guilty", etc... what did JO & co do with those arguments in defense of ACORN?

[Gwish]

James O'Keefe Arrested for 'Aiding and Abetting' Attempted Wiretapping

[ajpreus]

ACORN is funded by the federal government. The people have every right to sting the government. That's what our nation is built on. They should not be able to hide anything from the people.

[VeritasVerificatrion]

BTW people, wiretapping is as illegal in Cali as in Penn. So how can coward O'Keefe release this audio, & not the audio for Katherine Conway Russel in the Philly video? He lies, saying his hands are tied, & confident that you'll swallow anything he says, despite the glaring contradictions in his work. He wets his pants at the idea of interviewing with anyone but Fox, or fielding reasonable questions. "Bring it on!!", indeed! Read what he said on 9-11 about interviewing with CNN... Lying coward!

[zaxalon]

You are absolutely right. And now, if there is any justice, this sack of explitive is gonna go to jail for wiretapping.  :)

[dante144]

what made the film makers want to film this? Had they heard of Acorn doing stuff like this before? Were they known for this before? Rumored? How did they know to catch them like this?

[ironcatholic]

INVESTIGATE THIS WOMAN NOW! Pull all her phone records, lock her up for life!

[raiderbeau]

when I was a kid I thought the Soviets could be the end of America but I never imagined it would be child rape supporters.

[uzijohn]

Fair is Fair,

Democrats need to video Republican fund raisers involved in these activities

(but don't hold your breath)

I'm sure their good friend Larry Flint could lend them some video equipment

[acmeseed]

"need to video Republican fund raisers involved in these activities"

If there was such a thing don't you think the Democrats would have been all over it already and that it would not be all over the mainstream media?

I bet you are not going to see any of these ACORN incriminating videos on CNN, at least not until the flames start reaching their coattails.

Remember the 30 lawyers descending on Alaska to dig up or make up dirt about Palin?

Where is your rage about ACORN selling young girls?

[uzijohn]

acmeseed,

I'm being sarcastic, but with 4 thumbs down I should have been more obvious

At any Republican outreach center they'd be in the next room calling the police!!!

[acmeseed]

Oops, sorry, now I get it and agree 100%

[Hellpig]

as if Americans needed another reason to hunt down and kill all the Acorn/SEIU enemies within..

ObaMao wont investigate that's fine in 2010 we will investigate Acorn/SEIU and ObaMao's involement with both........

Seeya soon ObaMao you hate a date with a judge

[acmeseed]

"in 2010 we will investigate Acorn/SEIU"

Unfortunately it is very difficult because the main stream media will not cover this type of stuff thus keeping a lot of people in the dark.

We knew ACORN was a bad seed long before the November elections, but were not able to make a dent.

Besides, they engage heavily in voter fraud.

Has anyone noticed that in all these videos the participants from ACORN seem to all be African Americans?

[Hellpig]

The Rathke brothers must rot in Hell hunt them down

and there is a new breed of leaders emerging we will take back America time to water the tree of liberty

[VeritasVerificatrion]

@acmeseed Um... the msm was what kept the controversy over ACORN going in 2008, or dont you remember? & it was ACORN that reported on its own problem with voter registration. So dont even try to pull that bs about the msm "ignoring" this. JO & HG both refused interviews the with any network but FOx when they first started this smear campaign. They lie & complain about being ignored. But they continue to refuse accountability, update the fallacious info in their work, or even answer valid q's.

[VeritasVerificatrion]

The day after the 1st video release, JO openly stated that he would not meet with CNN, even though they covered his story & offered an interview. The reasons he gives are paranoid & delusional, & feigns fear of a "hit job". Breitbart openly stated that he was releasing these videos in a way that would make the "msm" look bad. In doing so, he forbade inteviews with CNN, PBS NPR etc, & then feigned that these very outlets were censoring him. Its a lie, as he censored himself from them for effect.

[cupera1]

Why would these people go the the biggest supporters and apologist for the criminal activity of ACORN?

[JCGMich29]

It's interesting what blacks think should be tolerated in neighborhoods. A child sex pimp and child prostitutes shouldn't be discriminated against when seeking housing, according to black run ACORN. Reason 52,649 why whites want to keep blacks out of their neighborhoods.

[pataskalagirl]

ACORN needs to disappear and all it's little tentacles.

[PUGS1688]

Right wing, left wing...it doesn't matter anymore...we knew how bad the right was with Bush and his oil and his contraversal war...now we got it with the left wing and their Acorn and socialist agenda...Libertarians are the future if America is going to get back on the right track. Our leaders are AWFUL...don't care if they are liberal or conservative...doesn't matter anymore.

[VeritasVerificatrion]

So whatever happened to the excuse that JO cant relese the Philly audio because of pending litigations in Baltimore? If he can release this heavily edited bit of video footage, with all it's attendant narration and cutting, he can relese the audio from Philly. Breitbart's "threat" to do a landslide release before 2010 is clear evidence that he's been lying about having "his hands tied" from the get go.

[pariah01]

You answered your own question:

One sting's in California. The other's in Baltimore.

After this, ACORN's lawyers in Cali are probably going to do what they did in Baltimore. At which point, any further audio will be suppressed.

And none of the edits cut out complete sentences. Relying on the "heavily edited" excuse is a desperate backpedal.

[VeritasVerificatrion]

Sorry punkin'- The excuse made by Breitbart about not including the Philly audio was that the pending litigation in Baltimore kept his "hands tied." Philly isnt Baltimore. He is also says he will release a tide of such videos before the 2010 elections. So he has full control of the flow of this info & always had. He's openly lied about being censored (when actually he forbade access to the very outlets which he claimed had censored him) He's staging this whole thing. He's a lying muckreker.

[pariah01]

Baltimore. Philly. Whatever.

Neither one is California.

Having "full control" over the videos is not the same as having total leverage over their use. Right now, ACORN's lawyers have leverage over their use, and therefore, his "hands are tied" with regards to releasing them willy nilly.

The ACORN lawyers did indeed censor him.

punkin'.

[VeritasVerificatrion]

Excuses excuses, eh muffin? Ha! Your loyalty does you proud. Any excuse you give doesnt change the fact that Breitbart is lying about the audio. He has total control or he wouldnt be blackmailing Holder with a "tidal wave of releases" next Nov. If Breitbart were censored by ACORNS lawyers, he wouldnt have released this. IF he can release this without fear, he can release the Philly audio. He's lied about being censored & "impugned" by CNN, but he, JO & GH all refused to interview with them.

[andrewh23]

Does anything these two aren't GOP shills? Seriously?

[out2gtme]

The USA is being turned into an Obamanation.

[yabruf]

This is just another sad example of the human condition. When your an empty shell anything can fill the void, which in turn attempts to justify all sorts sick and immoral behavior. Just plain sad.

[tf8252]

wow! Acorn volunteering to help enslave children into sex rings. Can't believe the President was one of their attorneys. Shocking. and people find it hard to believe that powerful people conspire to do bad things.

[slappy1234567]

ACORN + Democrats = Corruption

[preventfalling]

Call it what you like Communism or Demand Destruction

[crzyczech]

This is just another example of obama created jobs.

Our money though. Obama must pay for his victory

Can we do something about it?

No.

Disgusting.

[hitman2070]

According to the L.A. Times, Mz. Lavelle left Acorn around a month or so ago abruptly. Hmmm...what a coincidence right?? She knew what was coming, so she got her ass outta there before the shit hit her fan too!! They oughta track that bitch down and grill her to find out what the F**K Larry Flynt is doing with Acorn...is he stealing tax money too? Wouldn't doubt it. Maybe Flynt is in the sex slave biz...a real hero huh?! Acorn needs to be destroyed!

[gotpoliticin]

Larry Flynt is well known to be a supporter of liberals and is known to try to bring down conservatives. I have no doubt she or ACORN have met with him. ACORNs lawsuit against the federal government is a joke.

[jeffmagic32]

The LA Times and Media Matters both printed that lies of the woman featured in this video - lets see if they admit to their piss poor "journalism".

[NoiseCollector]

Be careful liberals, your next prostitute may be citizen journalist.... someone on that international sex business level!

This gives me so many ideas... now to get a smaller camera...

[LiberalshateAmerica]

Here is a great idea, lets make a black man president! LOL

[csgforme]

Well done.... I can't wait for more, but you know they have them. They have delivered on every other promise.

The told AG Holder "Investigate, or we'll release more before the election"

Thats how you stop a bully... you punch him in the nose.

I hope the people who consider legal action toward these two are quickly reminded of NBC's To Catch A Preditor. Posing as someone they are not to catch criminals.

[CalicoatMaker]

Funny how obama was all behind them, now he's all "Acorn WHO?"

Fucking liar he is.

[bla34112]

@CalicoatMaker

See i was gonna give you shit for that... but yeah your kinda right

[CommieCrematorium]

ACORN is gang of Lib Marxists trying to dismantle America by undermining our laws and culture. We can not stand for this Bull Crap anymore.

ACORN must be dismantled brick by brick and the majority of them put into prison.

[TapTaptheMagnificent]

FFS. This is absurd and disturbing. Helping someone asking about child sex crimes aside, how f*cking hard is it to tell your employees "Hey guys, we're being investigated, could you please keep the felonies to a minimum? Thanks-mngmt"

[Kabukihomewood]

these are all videos they captured before breaking the story at all. This gave ACORN no time to try and cover it's tracks or do damage control, and a good thing, too!

[ScreenersChoice]

Can you imagine the people that are aware now that they've been videoed and the recordings haven't been released yet? They probably have no hair and fingernails left!

[YIRMASTER]

No these people probably don't really think it's a big deal otherwise this lady would have known it was wrong and not helped the prostitute and pimp out. I wouldn't doubt if this acorn worker has been at one time herself or has friends who are hookers. ACORN is a disgrace and even more amazing is how congress and the mainstream press excluding Fox news has come to their defense!

On the issue of their non-profit status alone ACORN should be investigated by the IRS intensively. Obama's peeps!

[gotpoliticin]

My thoughts exactly. Their mouths probably collectively dropped to the floor when the first videos were released. Not only that, Lavelle Stewart (the woman in this video) had the audacity to tell the LA Times (who of course didn't check the facts) that she merely tried to help the prostitute and offered no further assistance. Face palm.

[nhteaparty]

These two young people deserve a Pulitzer prize.

[MooseOfReason]

Tortured logic.

Lol. Logic is behind that door.

[louis12346]

Discrimination against child prostitution ,lol Larry Flint will help them

[TheIndoctriNATION]

No need to think maobama or eric "racial cowards" holder is going to investigate obamacorn These are their "peeps". Only We The People can ever stop this madness.

Coalesce.

[NoTyranny]

Here's more ACORN documents to dig up.

Stewart TWICE said "we have lists" of people who can help commit these crimes! and then she mentioned as an example Larry Flynt's staff.

She didn't say "I have lists" but "we" as in ACORN.

(sound of my jaw dropping)

[NoTyranny]

What's wrong with this picture:

The ACORN employee is offering help to commit child sex crimes while standing in front of the door marked:

"Program for Torture Victims"

Unbelievable!

[sunkist1976]

ahhhhh...I MISSED these guys so much!

Obama is ACORN. ACORN is Obama.

Spread the word, ya heard.

[HealeyBunch]

The most shocking thing og this whole ACORN scandal is that Obama and Congress continue to fund them. Do not be fooled..... they are still getting taxpayer dollars. The vote to freeze funding was a show for us.

[CheshireCat1954]

How many more Acorn offices exposed before the Fraud, and his lap dog, Eric Holder, investigate this corrupt organization?

[Tylerxy]

I can't believe how corrupt this organization is. It just boggles the mind. And they get tax dollars? That's messed up.

[vicodumb]

Bravo. These two kids have smashed ACORN and their shady practices. Absolute genius to keep releasing this a little at a time to keep these criminals in complete confusion. ACORN has told so many lies, they don't even know what they've said.

[polo3590]

Just saw the Hannity Special with you guys. Very well played out with releasing the tapes. love it

[scola91660]

The Acorn worker's customer service attitude is certainly commendable.

[82abhilash]

How nice would you have to be to put time and effort to do research for COMPLETE STRANGERs to start an international porno business with underage girls on a personal level!! Lavelle Stewart is indeed a nice lady. And still I have a problem with with tax money being used to pay her salary. That an the underage girls, but that part is a bit iffy. Otherwise, I might have put up with it.

[samuils]

82abhilash Porn with children is iffy? The fact of committing statutory rape is iffy?  The fact that children should never be exposed to such atrocity is iffy? Are you sick, do you want you children of say 14 13 12 years of age be fucked by adults on the screen for you and everyone to see? Wow there are truly sick people out there, and you seem to be one of them. It not iffy, its a crime

[82abhilash]

Unfortunately yes. It is not like you are a child one night and then the next day on your 18th birthday you suddenly become an adult. Different people mature at different times physically and emotionally. Some take longer than 18, others lesser. Calling teenagers children is an exaggeration. They are almost adults and those that mature early are adults. That is why there is no world consensus on age of consent. It varies from 12-18. Yes, it is iffy.

[samuils]

82abhilash So I guess you will be fine with your children to be fucked on TV. Go idiots. I dont care at what age some child may mature. They might mature, but it doesnt mean they are ready to have sex. Not to mention sex is for reproduction you dimwit, it was made pleasant so we would reproduce not to have strangers fucking you. And just because some countries think that maturity is at 9 years of age, doesnt make it so. Not to mention psychological damage it does to kids

[82abhilash]

You are playing the moving the goal post game. We started out talking about teenagers, who are not really children and then you changed the topic to children midway to support your collapsing house of cards. We started speaking about the age of consent and then suddenly it became a talk about 'your children'. You are one of those people who are looking for excuses to control everyone's sex life. You are fighting a losing battle.

[samuils]

82abhilash I am not playing a moving goal game , nor am I playing a game with you at all. Porn industry isnt controlling your sex life. Porn industry of underage girls, is sex slavery. Once again, sex is meant for reproduction, not do be fucked on TV publicly. When you have children of you own, then come back to me with this sick ideology that you have. Lets see how you will apply it then. And I m not playing games with you by all means. I am dead serious

[82abhilash]

Yes, you are moving the goal post. You just did and I pointed it out. And you keep saying underage as if there is a decided upon definition on what the age that word refers to. There is not. Sex slavery does not have anything to do with age. It has everything to do with keeping a person under lock and key and physically abusing them for sex. You cannot decide the reasons other people may choose to have sex for. You cannot control the sex lives of other people.

[82abhilash]

As for your own teens, let them learn to live responsibly under your influence and all other things will fall in place.

[EffieReal]

Teenagers are not adults, ever. They are forced into adult situations where they must fend for themselves (mostly in other countries) and they are not the better for it. Small children are also forced into these situations to survive. There are thousands of child prostitutes in India as young as 3 years old. Are they suddenly "more mature" too? That's just a farce. These kids aren't "adults"; they are SURVIVORS.

[82abhilash]

Thanks for distorting what I said and putting your filthy distorted words into my clean mouth. I do not know where you got the 'thousands' of 3 year prostitute story from. You better substantiate it. I also challenge you to show where I said teenagers are adults or kids are adults. I never said anything that mundane or simplistic. You destroyed a straw man of my argument.

[RogerOnTheRight]

Your mouth is clean? So, how far beyond flossing and brushing do you go?

Tongue scrapers?

[82abhilash]

Deep, very deep.

[EffieReal]

@82abhilash You said, "Calling teenagers children is an exaggeration. They are almost adults and those that mature early ARE ADULTS." So, yes you called teens adults. As for child prostitution in India; India's federal government released a statement that 1.2 million children are prostitutes in India. Google CNN, prostitution, children, India. I happen to subscribe to a publication called "Voice of the Martyrs". Their situation is "substantiated" quite a bit. They are trafficked from infancy.

[Kerogas]

The situation in India is quite fortunate in that if you accidentally kill one , they just give you another .

[82abhilash]

Are you speaking from experience?

[82abhilash]

Yes and they are all somehow 3 years old, I get it. And that is relevant to this video because..?

[82abhilash]

That is the best you have got. I am relived. For a minute I thought you had something substantial. You are the fool who think that exaggeration and over simplification along with questionable irrelevant detail makes for a good counter argument.

[EffieReal]

You are a common distorter of facts. Quite boring really. To put it simply, you lied. When I quoted you and proved it. (Regarding teens are adults.) You went on to somehow doubt the existence of 1.2 million children in brothel slavery in India (even though that is the number quoted by the Indian federal government). Of course they aren't all three years old, but they are all children! All of your talk is obfuscation because my obvious point is being a sex slave doesn't make them an adult.

[gotpoliticin]

People do mature at faster paces, BUT could you imagine the kind of problems that would create in our legal system? People would be charged with statutory rape and their defense would be "Well, the victim was mature for his/her age." How do you prove maturity?

Our legal system has sought to make guidelines of wrong and right. Most states have decided that 18 is the legal age. You may act more like an adult at 13 or even at 22, but the legal age is the guideline and rightfully so.

[82abhilash]

A sensible response at last. At least you agree that the age of consent which is more or less arbitrary is a product of legal convenience above anything else. And that is why I called it an iffy. But some people here are looking for excuses to control other people's sex lives.

[EffieReal]

You are looking for an excuse to validate your perverted view of "adulthood" being precipitated by sex slavery. Sorry, no, they are not "willing participants". They are children. You are sick.

[82abhilash]

When you tell lies, I know you are desperate. But lying will only feed into your desperation. It will make you even more desperate. Teenagers are not children. They are almost adults. I said that and I am willing to stand by that. There is a special word for that defines that category 'adolescent'.

You are the one who believes in sex slavery. You want people to live as if they are all frigid and if they do not you threaten them with hell fire, the law and even lie about the. You have no honor.

[EffieReal]

I am the only one who believes in sex slavery? Are you kidding? You deny the human trafficking that that Indian government admits to being such a huge problem in their country? What reason would you have for being so disgustingly vile? I just chose India as an example, this practice is worldwide. You are truly a demented person. I can only imagine why you would defend and now deny such an evil in this world.

[82abhilash]

I never denied what you claimed I denied. You lie again.

[EffieReal]

Perhaps you were on drugs when you typed it then? Or simply...possessed? Either way. You are evil and I am done responding to you.

[82abhilash]

I suppose you have the final word on good and evil.

[EffieReal]

It's like the Devil himself speaking when you attempt to use words like "honor". You have no business attempting such a word. You defile it with your nasty existence. You dishonor the children trapped in this evil practice. You dishonor the people working to help them get out. You dishonor the very concept of the word "honor". There is no truth or goodness in you.

[82abhilash]

And now you want to control what I speak. You have a problem with the fact that I exist and speak can speak my mind. You have a problem with the fact that you are only able to make poor counter arguments. So you lie about me with every sentence and then make some more lies. You are a person without virtue.

[EffieReal]

I do have a problem with evil people doing evil things. I don't have a problem with you speaking "your mind". It only shows how sick you are so people can be warned of types like you. You are interesting. A total liar. I always find it consistently the case that extreme personalities such as yours tend to project their most obvious flaws on others. So you shout "liar". Even though you are obviously lying. So typical. Lie all you want, 82. I only said I am done responding.

[82abhilash]

You lied again.You said you will stop responding ten minutes back and you responded again after that. I suppose you have to call me a liar to confuse people.

[tgoyer]

"And you keep saying underage as if there is a decided upon definition on what the age that word refers to."

There is nothing "iffy" about underage in LA. California state law is very specific that anyone under 18 yrs is underage. There is no "iffy" about it.

[82abhilash]

I was not talking just about California, I was talking about the world. Did you miss the word international repeated over and over in the video. World wide, the age of consent is iffy. There is no consensus.

[tgoyer]

The story is about an undercover sting in Los Angeles, California. That is where the underage law is codefied. That is where the law was broken.

Please leave your partisan pandering at the door.

[82abhilash]

I was not trying to be partisan. If you read my original comment, you will see that I have problem with what ACORN is doing. Also with regard to age of consent, things are not so simple. In Japan it is 13, in US it is mostly 18. If an American has sex with a 13 year old in Japan and return to the US, he can be prosecuted under US law even though he has not broken any laws inside the US. Internationalization complicates the age of consent issue.

[tgoyer]

It doesn't really matter what the age of consent is in Japan. It's irrelevant.

The controversy is surrounding a media sting in LA, California. That is where the law is applied. In California, the age of consent set in stone. There is no "iffy" about it.

[82abhilash]

It is not set in stone. It can be changed, because laws can be changed.

[tgoyer]

Sure they can be changed. What is your point??

If you break a law, it doesn't matter that the law can be changed. You are tried based on the law as it was at the time of the voilation.

[82abhilash]

My point was that the natural basis for the law is iffy because biologically and emotionally people mature at different ages.

[dante144]

but it is illegal now. and gross.

[dante144]

don't support child rape

[82abhilash]

Don't put your filthy words into my mouth.

[pariah01]

He/She can be prosecuted, but that doesn't mean the case against the person who did it will be won. In fact, it's very unlikely barring a very bias judge.

[jjrglobal]

@82abhilash

You are one of these Liberals that believe there is no right or wrong only different perspectives. This Liberal lack of rational thinking and immorality is exactly whats wrong with society today. There is a right and there is a wrong. Stealing from people is wrong, I dont give a shit what the person doing the stealing thinks. Murder is wrong, again I dont care thru what eyes the murderer is seeing things,he's wrong by committing the act. The quicker you lose this ideology the better

[82abhilash]

I am not a liberal. And I was not talking about stealing or murder.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

It is interesting you bring up someone "lying" - obviously, YOU think lying is wrong. You are contradicting yourself by calling someone a liar, but not thinking child prostitution and underage sex is wrong.

What it boils down to is that only when it affects YOU do you call it wrong.

[82abhilash]

It is not for difference of opinion that I called EffieReal a liar. She claimed I said things I did not. That is why I called her a liar. I never said child prostitution and underage sex is correct. You would know that if you actually read what I wrote. Instead you want to follow on EffieReal's dishonest footsteps.

[HowTheWorldWorks]

Well done James & Hannah.

[groquecrushridge]

Obama is Acorn

[davidpark68]

If this keeps up the government wont need to shut down acorn, acorn's going to run out of employees to fire.

[SHAMSHAM1090]

jeez how many have you done?

are you still doing undercover investigations.

or are these old and your releaseing them one by one?

[Zetzza]

they are releasing them 1 by 1...remember the response from acorn about the first one?

"this was just an isolated incident...it didnt happen in places like new york"

then later they ended up releasing the New York video.

[njcarlos1]

Lol yeah, and the funniest thing is they still have a ton more in the vault. :D

[MrBillTroop73]

And the hits just keep on commmmmmmmin'