@ThugPassion94 No, all he did was Horrorcore / Hardcore Rap and now he does new school Pop-Rap. Eminem never did Hip Hop in his life and he will never do.
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 you dont know me, so DO NOT judge me, i know hip hop more than you could ever expect man, ah another thing, you are saying that to me and if you go on your profile you've written on music: "Ol' skool Metal, ol' skool Hip Hop, Jazz, Blues, music from Pokemon and One Piece and some movie soundtracks." keep listening music from pokemon man and gtfo
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 You know Hip Hop more than i could ever expect eh? Alright then, if you know much about Hip Hop then tell me the names of some specific people who created the Hip Hop. (And of course without looking at Wikipedia.)
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 listen to Eminems old material like Infinite and his songs from 92, Eminem was actually brought up in the culture and probably knows more than you
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 you idiot your profile says you were born in 1993, which means you were 6 years old when Eminem released the SSLP, you're lying you dumb fuck, you're just a naive kid stop trying to tell grown men you know more about hip hop than them
@siwooot No he was not, he never did Hip Hop and he will never do Hip Hop. All that he has done in the past was Horrorcore Rap. Nothing more and nothing less. End of fucking story.
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 his horrorcore stuff was only from 98 - 00, he was doing music before that, i thought you said you listened to his old stuff, you know while you were a baby? go listen to the infinite album, that wasn't horrorcore, and even the horrorcore stuff he did from 98 - 00 was still hip hop, but check out the infinite album
@NuthingButAgThang I remember it coming out on the radio just before rappers delight in 1979. We were happy to finally hear a rap song on the radio because before this people dj'd in their homes and wrote their own rhymes (raps) with sampling from r&b and disco records,then they would perform jams out in the parks,block parties, high school dances or community centers.Rap songs weren't as main stream america as it is today.Boring Pop songs were mainstream, breakdancing was called burning.
Why don't rappers keep it real anymore, They just do it for the money and fame. i'm sure lil wayne, soulja boy, wiz kalifa, and those rappers wouldn't keep rapping if they got no money or fame out of it. I bet Eminem, Lupe, or any old school hip hop artists would. Because the ones i just listed, they do it for the love. That makes them musicians, the fame and money is just something on the side. lol
Nah, Eminem raps more about killing his mother and rapping his mothers child. He's so much better.
And Hip Hop is black culture. There's no two ways about it. He's just another over hyped Elvis Presly who gets over credited for nothing more than doing what a bunch of black people did before them just because they're white doing it.
When you've been around long enough, you may see how what's considered new resembles what's termed old school. This video documents an epoch in the era while it was starting up, yet to date I come across rappers trying to kill it with a band like its never been done before... or nobody but The Roots are doing it!
god. im tired of all these kids thinking they know so much about old school rap because they have heard 2pac and biggie. jesus, you guys couldnt name 3 people fro nwa. bet you never heard of luniz. you still hear his music all the time on the radio. but likely think its one of your shity rappers like lil wayne. you dont have to be from the streets to rap anymore. just look at wiz, all he did to get famous was smoke a ton of weed. groooow up.
Smh. Done be saying that rap now was destroyed by "Gangstas". kingtim had so many lines talkin about smoking weed and getting some. difference is now u got more freedom as to what u can say on the radio.
And look at him shouting out the herb, shit ain't changed, shits just commercialized. Take a few brothers who can rhyme ridiculous, and then have them spit to folks who can't make up their own theories to the always unprejudiced game of the BEAT, and you have rap. No, I don't blame gangsters for jumping in on it, and sadly, even if you did have positivity, well hey, look what happened when Tupac was starting to see the evils. Adios. Either YOU make what you call good rap, or shut the fuck up. 1.
Stop blaming the gangster rap. Most people can't rap to begin with. Don't blame the fall of rap to the persons struggles and situations. What you mean you don't like the new shit, grow up. You know there is a thing called, not everybody rapping is living the happy go lucky life, get a grip people. And really y'all should be mad at the big corporations and big brother promoting the filth. Everyone has rhymes, it's just that the positive ones are dangerous like an MLK speech on Vietnam. Change...?
all you ppl talking shit about "gangsta" rap just dont understand every one has there own story if you dont like it just shut the hell up. enjoy music and if you dont then dont ruin it for every one els by talking bad about something you will never or could ever understand.
The origin of rap basically started with radio dj's saying a few lines before they put on a record then traveled to the dance floor in mc form to get the crowd moving. It evolved into competition. Would be nice if someone came out spittin' a album right now. It's dying really.
@thelyricalstinger actually, Curtis Blow released a couple of compilations that showcased the origins of rap back to the 50's. Not to say that it could be called hip-hop back then, but the jackson 5 and others were listed on the album. As for full rap albums, you may be right about that, but Afrikaa Bambatta used to rhyme over funk, as did Trouble Funk, it wouldn't suprise me if there were others in the 70's doing it.
Well... "rap" is a very old concept. Sugarhill Gang made it a trend (1978 AFAIK, or was it 1979?) but what they started was rather hiphop. So hiphop was basically born out of rapping to Chic's "Good times", but there were lots of rap tunes before, even hits. "Troglodyte", for instance, was a big rap hit in 1972. So you can pick a lot of different "firsts".
@Ragnemalm the artist who made Troglodyte was an r n b singer, the first rap artist to record a song on wax has traditionally been considered to be Spoonie G with his song 'Spoonin' Rap' in 1979..but I can only go by what I've heard or read - I was born in 1973 for god's sake ! LOL
@mysterymediacorp Aren't you confusing rap with hiphop now? "Rapping" is a very old concept, and you can't say Castor didn't rap/wasn't a "rap artist" on Troglodyte just because he is a musician who can sing and play. And he wasn't the first, it is just the oldest rap hit I know about. I also heard the term "rapping" used in a comedy from 1977 (in a joke about "black" language). It seems to have been an established word. Also check out "Peck ya neck" by Mandrill 1975.
@Ragnemalm you'd have to classify Blondie (Debra Harry) as a rap artist as well also...I'd consider Blowfly more of a rapper than Castor,but doesn't really matter..just opinions. I do believe guys like Castor must've had an influence on guys like Spoonie G & other early mc's...they usually rapped over older songs that were remade
@mysterymediacorp I don't know which Blondie tune you refer to (never listened much to them) but you do have a point. Rapping, to me, is just "talk song", nothing strange with that, neither good or bad, just one of the ways to deliver a text. It can be done aggressively, or smoothly. Speaking of rapping softly, that was exactly what Grandmaster Flash did on "The Message". It isn't easy to make strict limits between styles.
@TheRobert2254 ummm what about heavy metal... that shit sings songs of hate and destruction... i seen lethal weapon that crazy azz heavy metal nut with a damn FLAME throw... dont cast judgement on my music mr. INTERNET tough guy.. and dont bother responding cause i have a little list that i add DUMB ASSES to that prevents me from seeing anything they do on here!!!!
...actually John Lennon ( Give Peace A Chance / 1969 ) had some of the first "rap " licks in an original song.....alot deeper than "to the beat everybody" ....
True all this that has been said but i think rap was at its best back then when they sampled funk songs. Nowdays everybodys doing the beats by themselfs but they just use presets and press a few buttons , that aint music to me. And the lyrics suck thesedays even more than they used to at 80s :DD
@woooooooowwwwwwwwwww Bill Curtis is still around. He's on myspace, you might want to hit him up & ask if they're still around. Now remember, this is like 30 years ago!!!
its sad that we cannot make music the way we used to without having to modernize the sound....we actually used to play instruments???? wow imagine that...what a concept, LEARNING HOW TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT:(
the 1st. form of fast talking with music I have heard was when I was about 7yrs. old and it was a record called( life is a rock reunion) back in 1974 I don't know if you would just call it rap though.
@similar01 First of all, "Hip Hop" has NOTHING to do with the initial form of Urban music, "hip hop" is the pirated version of Blues, Funk, Rock, Soul, and other aspects of Urban energy. The original American form of Urban energy began in the states that was big on agriculture mainly, the South and along the "Chittlin' Circuit". Thats where James Brown, Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Rudy Ray More, Michael Jackson, Miles Davis, Sam Cook, Bojangles Robinson, Sammy Davis Jr. and millions more came from.
@KokoDaBoogyman Pump ya brakes.. No disrepect to the origins of Rap as a genre in and of itself. however, let's not confuse Rap with hip hop as a whole culture and everything does not go back to blues funk rock etc.. aLl the performers you named were great however the culture was not relevant to hip hop and the things young people in hip hop did to express themselves.. and michael jackson does'nt belong in that group... retort and I'll give time based references, and Yes. Fatback is THE PIONEER
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THE FIRST Recorded RAP Record was "We Rap More Mellow" by the Younger Generation (it was actually the furious five without Flash). It was on Brass Records and came out a few weeks before King Tim the Third. It was produced by Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, former members of the TIME. Get@Me
I don't know that you can necessarily make a determination as to what the first rap album is. If someone talks instead of sings, is that rapping? Depends on your definition of rap. This was most definitely the first record where the idea of speaking in a rhythm was unabashedly embraced, for sure - the first single that was influenced by the "rap subculture." Doesn't compare to Rapper's Delight as a rap composition, but it might as well be the one that started it all.
Fatback did not get the recognition they deserved for influencing Pop music. Although they may not have started Rhyme in general, but they re-introduced that "Rapping to the beat" trend in R&B style by doing what DJ's didn't do (putting it on vinyl record) they did it in the summer of 1979. The DJ's caught on to it 2 months later, and the rest is history.
WOW! WHO IN THE HELL GOT THIS FOOTAGE???? My first look at the rapper of this song for the first time in my whole life!!! WOW!! Even as a kid I was like, "Fatback Band? They're a music group and they're doing a rap song? LOL!! But the dude was rappin with crazy swag and I loved it even as a kid!! History right there.......
FYI, kurtis blow made the original modern rap with the CHRISTMAS RAP, if you want to go that far back, I should know I was in 9th grade in 1977-78 when kurtis blow made that, I had the original 45 rpm vinyl and 33 1/3 rpm album of "the breaks" but JAMES brown was rappin in the late 50's, he was the father of SOUL, R&B and RAP!
It came after King Tim III in October 1979. I was a DJ back then. We got the records as promos before they are released to the public. Oct. 1979, that is when they released Kurtis Blow. Fatback started the trend.
@omgitsjulian, Rock did go to shit with Cookie Monster death metal. Not too sure about Jazz and fusion since I'm not too much into that. Soul went to shit too with Thug RnB, whatever that means. All I know is, if it says thug, it probably isn't good. ; )
@lowriderbandfan Sounds like your attitude just went sour and your curiosity got stuck in some forgotten decade. Sweeping generalizations like these just make you sound old and out of touch. Music needs to branch out, more often time than not in ways you don't like. I hope your saltiness only reaches as far as music. And even with that you're missing out on a lot.
@lowriderbandfan actually Gangsta Rap (g-funk) was the reason for the groove in the 90's. Funk was dead in the late 80's but not official ! Gangsta Rap/Gangsta-Funk(g-funk) was there!
@lowriderbandfan ok man you just basickly said E-azy E, Tupac, Biggie Smallz,ice-cube,ice-t,and N.W.A sucks its not gangsta rap anymore there is no moe gangsta rap now its all new-skool crap and its all about sex.
George Clinton say there once was a man in a canoe woke up with a hand full of goo ! He was rapping that before this. Just like James Brown say some like fat some like tall skinny legs and all.
Actually, country singers used to do the same thing years before that (Convoy 1976, Hot Rod Lincoln 1958). It also dates back to Blues artists back in the 1920's.
"Rapper's Delight" was released in September of 1979 and "King Tim III" (Personality Jock) was released in July of 1979. There was no such genre known as Hip Hop at the time. The Grammy's didn't even officially categorize Hip Hop as its own genre until 1989. Back in 1979 it was known as Pop. If we want to go back and rewrite history then this should be considered Hip Hop as well as Rapper's Delight and since it came out two months earlier, then it is indeed the first recorded Hip Hop song.
compared to music now this is more like DC go-go music than hip-hop but its all the above really. Fatback probably doesn't get as much recognition as they should for their influence on urban music in general because they had a strong disco feel to their funk.
Something tells me Hip-hop has strayed a little too far from it's roots. This stuff is fun and kick ass. Modern rap is becoming way too much about ego and bull shit....the music seems to be unimportant.
That's not entirely true, There are lot's of true hiphop artist performing today. The people you are referring to are not hiphop or rap artist they are simply a by-product of the times.
In other words, every so often the the music industry has to take a shit to unload all of the toxins that its injested over say a generation, what you hear on the radio today...is the result of the giant shit that the music industry has taken recently.
@earthboundcruiser I'm so sick of hearing this crap, yes the stuff you hear on the radio etc. is almost always bad, but what sort of music are you into? Are the best examples of the genre of music you're into found on the radio? I'm guessing not so why shouldn't it be the same for hip hop? If you want to find good, recent hip hop you actually have to look for it.
@withmynamelast If you don't know that hip hop on the radio was better back in the day than it is now...then shut the fuck up. The first time I ever heard hip hop was on the radio and it blew me away. I still love hip hop, I just don't like what has happened to commercial hip hop. It's complete BS.
@earthboundcruiser Did you even read my comment you idiot? It's not 1979 anymore, you've got to look for good music and stop fucking complaining about how it doesn't come to you anymore.
@withmynamelast Do you have some sort of issues or something? I wasn't whining...just stating the obvious. Rap has lost its way. Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game. Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business. It forgot where it started. So we gather here for the dearly departed.
@earthboundcruiser My issue is that attitudes like yours breed further negativity towards the genre, when there are lots of artists out there trying to keep it alive, my point was that there is still plenty of good hip hop being made but it's not going to find you necessarily you have to find it. Ironic that Nas's gimmicky album about hip hop being dead went Gold, making him alot of money you can bet, so the attention it gathered due to its controversial title was a marketting tool..
@withmynamelast I think you are barking up the wrong tree mate. I like gangsta rap, I like old school, I like all kinds of shit. I have no negativity. When you have to go out looking for good rap like a prospector looking for gold...that means that hip hop in general has taken a blow and has been co-opted by the corporate whores and sells outs. That doesn't mean that good rap doesn't exist. It just means Lil Wayne sux.
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srry but i dnt like it. sounds like sugar hill. and sugar hill suck. i like kanye and common and lup and talib etc. but i dnt like this disco/ rap style.
if you don't like this man you don't like hip-hop this is the early days. And one part of it , Hip-hop is a multi colored movement ,like music in her entire life. Comming from A to Z...
@Karolensian First of all they got greedy, but secondly they started making music on aggression and forgot to make it swing like the blues and funk that paved the way for them. Don't get me wrong gangstarap is great as a genre but "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing" :)
it went wrong when record execs saw a market and flooded it with weak, generic, watered-down Rap/Hip Hop. Kids thast wanna be/look/act rebelious buy the most shocking/outrageous -and usually sh*t - stuff and that's the stuff we see on TV shows etc. REAL Hip HOP is alive and well and living where it's always lived... UNDERGROUND ;D
@Karolensian That's only the stuff that gets played on TV and radio. Go and watch a video called 'Trippin' at te Disco' by a group calle People Under the Stairs, to see how the spirit of this song lives on today.
and the best mcs today aren't lil wayne and soulja boy. lil wayne and soulja boy and ti went off into a separate genre of rap that melts into pop. common, talib kweli, biggie, tupac, immortal technique
soulja boy, 50 cent and mike jones are the worst excuses for rappers and are a digrace to rap. common, talib kweli, biggie, pac, and immortal technique are still keeping good rap alive
Actually YoshiClone112! You are absolutely WRONG. James brown, the King of Funk and Godfather of Soul, is the actual King of Rap. If you don't believe me, listen to the song "Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud" which first came out in 1969", The Big Payback" which came out in 1973 and "Get on the Good Foot" which came out in 1974 all before Aerosmith recorded "Walk This Way" in 1975. They borrowed heavily from James Brown's influences. Just ask lead singer of Areosmith, Steve Tyler.
ACTUALLY...THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST....THIS MAY SHOCK YOU BUT IN 1978 THE WEST COAST PUT OUT "Caspers Groovy Ghost Show" By Casper ... ON AVI RECORDS, HOLLYWOOD CA. ...JUST A BIT OF RAP HISTIRY FOR YOU...I KNOW THERES NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN THIS...BECAUSE AVI RE-RELEASED CASPER IN 1980 AFTER THE POPULARITY OF THE SUGARHILLGANG...
@djflash808 I'mma look this up 'cuz right now, I'm heavy into this very research. I kno' there had to B a song or two before "King Tim III" in the fashion that we can consider it "early hip hop"!!!
@meechamaka411 I like that you are heavy into researching "Hip Hop". My advise to you is to understand that Hip Hop is the Christopher Columbus of Urban music. If you ask most people where this music started, they will say in New York. This form of music mutated from what was created in the South and nurtured on the "Chittlin' Circuit" New York had the means to market this form to the masses, They also gave it their own name.
@KokoDaBoogyman Cut out the BS! everything does not go back to the chittlin circuit. That was a great time but every genre of back music and expression did NOT emerge from it. Soe things were absolutely original in their own right. LIKE HIP HOP. stop that nonsense.
What about Life is a rock but the radio rolled me from 1974?
andrewr62 2 weeks ago
The record label could've made this a big hit, but NOOOOOOOOOO!! They had to whip it out as a B-side.
Oh, irony. You never cease to amaze me.
rmnhn 1 month ago
when is the song from???
CheytacTrinity 3 months ago
Eminem never did Hip Hop.
MikeTheKingScorp1993 3 months ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaat? are you jokin?
ThugPassion94 1 month ago
@ThugPassion94 No, all he did was Horrorcore / Hardcore Rap and now he does new school Pop-Rap. Eminem never did Hip Hop in his life and he will never do.
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 haha omg, hope you're joking man, i dont think you know eminem at all =/
ThugPassion94 1 month ago
@ThugPassion94 I wouldn't expect you to understand what Hip Hop is.
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 you dont know me, so DO NOT judge me, i know hip hop more than you could ever expect man, ah another thing, you are saying that to me and if you go on your profile you've written on music: "Ol' skool Metal, ol' skool Hip Hop, Jazz, Blues, music from Pokemon and One Piece and some movie soundtracks." keep listening music from pokemon man and gtfo
ThugPassion94 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 You know Hip Hop more than i could ever expect eh? Alright then, if you know much about Hip Hop then tell me the names of some specific people who created the Hip Hop. (And of course without looking at Wikipedia.)
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 listen to Eminems old material like Infinite and his songs from 92, Eminem was actually brought up in the culture and probably knows more than you
siwooot 1 month ago
@siwooot When i was listening to super rare extremely early stuff from Eminem you didn't even know who Eminem was.
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 you idiot your profile says you were born in 1993, which means you were 6 years old when Eminem released the SSLP, you're lying you dumb fuck, you're just a naive kid stop trying to tell grown men you know more about hip hop than them
siwooot 1 month ago
@siwooot You think Eminem is Hip Hop and you tell to people that you know about Hip Hop? Lol.
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 Eminem WAS hip hop, he isn't anymore
siwooot 1 month ago
@siwooot No he was not, he never did Hip Hop and he will never do Hip Hop. All that he has done in the past was Horrorcore Rap. Nothing more and nothing less. End of fucking story.
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 his horrorcore stuff was only from 98 - 00, he was doing music before that, i thought you said you listened to his old stuff, you know while you were a baby? go listen to the infinite album, that wasn't horrorcore, and even the horrorcore stuff he did from 98 - 00 was still hip hop, but check out the infinite album
siwooot 1 month ago
@siwooot I HAVE HEARD THE FUCKING INFINTE!!!
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
@MikeTheKingScorp1993 stop being a sheep.
MAJESTYOFFICIAL 1 month ago
@MAJESTYOFFICIAL Hahahahahah what the fuck? A sheep? xD
MikeTheKingScorp1993 1 month ago
it says this was in the 80s wasnt rappers delight in 79?
NuthingButAgThang 4 months ago
@NuthingButAgThang - this live performance was in the 80's , the song was released the same year as Rappers delight in '79
MrAndyGibbard 3 months ago
@NuthingButAgThang I remember it coming out on the radio just before rappers delight in 1979. We were happy to finally hear a rap song on the radio because before this people dj'd in their homes and wrote their own rhymes (raps) with sampling from r&b and disco records,then they would perform jams out in the parks,block parties, high school dances or community centers.Rap songs weren't as main stream america as it is today.Boring Pop songs were mainstream, breakdancing was called burning.
gypsydancer64 3 months ago
Preacher's Delight- 1st First Rap Song !!!!!
stoprocentpasji 4 months ago
I THINK A LOT PEOPLE SLEPT ON THIS BECAUSE THE RECORDS COMPANIES DID NOT PROMOTE THEM RIGHT
knyce710 4 months ago
First Teme Rap Of The History
glaeken14 5 months ago
Why don't rappers keep it real anymore, They just do it for the money and fame. i'm sure lil wayne, soulja boy, wiz kalifa, and those rappers wouldn't keep rapping if they got no money or fame out of it. I bet Eminem, Lupe, or any old school hip hop artists would. Because the ones i just listed, they do it for the love. That makes them musicians, the fame and money is just something on the side. lol
xRetroismx 5 months ago
actually the first recorded rapper is rudy rae moore also known as dolemite 1960.s/
lovemebitchez1 5 months ago
@lovemebitchez1 ah, look up The Jubalaires - The Preacher And The Bear
gypsydancer64 3 months ago
@GizmoChTeeVee
Nah, Eminem raps more about killing his mother and rapping his mothers child. He's so much better.
And Hip Hop is black culture. There's no two ways about it. He's just another over hyped Elvis Presly who gets over credited for nothing more than doing what a bunch of black people did before them just because they're white doing it.
Yobachi2007 5 months ago
@Yobachi2007 THANK YOU
machetezone 5 months ago
@GizmoChTeeVee eminem is a fake white boy who stole black culture
machetezone 5 months ago
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL BUT THE START OF 5:16 IS FUNNY AS SHIT & WOULD MAKE SNOOP DOGG & RED & METH PROUD!!!
musiqgem 5 months ago
When you've been around long enough, you may see how what's considered new resembles what's termed old school. This video documents an epoch in the era while it was starting up, yet to date I come across rappers trying to kill it with a band like its never been done before... or nobody but The Roots are doing it!
JamesKebu 6 months ago
god. im tired of all these kids thinking they know so much about old school rap because they have heard 2pac and biggie. jesus, you guys couldnt name 3 people fro nwa. bet you never heard of luniz. you still hear his music all the time on the radio. but likely think its one of your shity rappers like lil wayne. you dont have to be from the streets to rap anymore. just look at wiz, all he did to get famous was smoke a ton of weed. groooow up.
i8dapuszy 6 months ago
first no dout as i remember wow.
kwiz1ner 7 months ago
where can i find the lyrics of the song....need it for my report..:))
tadooable 7 months ago
thanks for this unique vid but plz, pump up the volume!
arijspieter 7 months ago
Rap came from some loud ass, "look at me" fucker talking over great music while everyone else is trying to hear the TALENT on the stage.
dcracker2 8 months ago
this is actualy pretty good, but after this, we took the wrong turn
mbhockey97 8 months ago
I Remember this from back in day
banakatito 8 months ago
@robertprpic01 Bullshit it is, check out any one of the songs in my favorites, how many of those are about 'ferraris/sexy bitches/mansions' ?
withmynamelast 8 months ago
the "first" was 21 years earlier
1337BananaL33TVostok 8 months ago
Smh. Done be saying that rap now was destroyed by "Gangstas". kingtim had so many lines talkin about smoking weed and getting some. difference is now u got more freedom as to what u can say on the radio.
Picheta93 8 months ago
And look at him shouting out the herb, shit ain't changed, shits just commercialized. Take a few brothers who can rhyme ridiculous, and then have them spit to folks who can't make up their own theories to the always unprejudiced game of the BEAT, and you have rap. No, I don't blame gangsters for jumping in on it, and sadly, even if you did have positivity, well hey, look what happened when Tupac was starting to see the evils. Adios. Either YOU make what you call good rap, or shut the fuck up. 1.
combustible420 9 months ago
Stop blaming the gangster rap. Most people can't rap to begin with. Don't blame the fall of rap to the persons struggles and situations. What you mean you don't like the new shit, grow up. You know there is a thing called, not everybody rapping is living the happy go lucky life, get a grip people. And really y'all should be mad at the big corporations and big brother promoting the filth. Everyone has rhymes, it's just that the positive ones are dangerous like an MLK speech on Vietnam. Change...?
combustible420 9 months ago 6
all you ppl talking shit about "gangsta" rap just dont understand every one has there own story if you dont like it just shut the hell up. enjoy music and if you dont then dont ruin it for every one els by talking bad about something you will never or could ever understand.
playingyoujla 9 months ago
"Gangstas" destroyed rap music
7CCO 9 months ago
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Haider94Ali 10 months ago
The origin of rap basically started with radio dj's saying a few lines before they put on a record then traveled to the dance floor in mc form to get the crowd moving. It evolved into competition. Would be nice if someone came out spittin' a album right now. It's dying really.
Mannchild11 10 months ago
i always thoughy gil scott heron was really the beginning of rap.
MrFunkygroover 11 months ago
what label was this released on?
maylay2 1 year ago
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so many bits of this song have been ripped into other songs. Love this!!
knurri 1 year ago
so many bits of this song have been ripped into other songs. Love this!!
knurri 1 year ago
The Fatback Bank was the bomb from the 70's and early 80's. I never saw any concert footage until now!!!
tedjc922 1 year ago
this wasnt the first hip hop track, it was a west coast record, Casper - Groove Ghost Show 7". Only hip hop record I know with 1978 on the label
discogs.com/Casper-Groovy-Ghost-Show/release/428958
thelyricalstinger 1 year ago
@thelyricalstinger actually, Curtis Blow released a couple of compilations that showcased the origins of rap back to the 50's. Not to say that it could be called hip-hop back then, but the jackson 5 and others were listed on the album. As for full rap albums, you may be right about that, but Afrikaa Bambatta used to rhyme over funk, as did Trouble Funk, it wouldn't suprise me if there were others in the 70's doing it.
TMundo 1 year ago
this song is great :) and hip hop is alive and well in the underground keeping the art alive and well.
TheGhettostylus 1 year ago
dont forget! Joe Bataan 1979's "Rap O Clap O".
deraAZ0 1 year ago
Wow, a pinnacle of the artform at the early stage.
I have never heard this so fast! :D amazing live..cool thanks for this.
oatstao 1 year ago
Well... "rap" is a very old concept. Sugarhill Gang made it a trend (1978 AFAIK, or was it 1979?) but what they started was rather hiphop. So hiphop was basically born out of rapping to Chic's "Good times", but there were lots of rap tunes before, even hits. "Troglodyte", for instance, was a big rap hit in 1972. So you can pick a lot of different "firsts".
Ragnemalm 1 year ago
@Ragnemalm the artist who made Troglodyte was an r n b singer, the first rap artist to record a song on wax has traditionally been considered to be Spoonie G with his song 'Spoonin' Rap' in 1979..but I can only go by what I've heard or read - I was born in 1973 for god's sake ! LOL
mysterymediacorp 1 year ago
@mysterymediacorp Aren't you confusing rap with hiphop now? "Rapping" is a very old concept, and you can't say Castor didn't rap/wasn't a "rap artist" on Troglodyte just because he is a musician who can sing and play. And he wasn't the first, it is just the oldest rap hit I know about. I also heard the term "rapping" used in a comedy from 1977 (in a joke about "black" language). It seems to have been an established word. Also check out "Peck ya neck" by Mandrill 1975.
Ragnemalm 7 months ago
@Ragnemalm you'd have to classify Blondie (Debra Harry) as a rap artist as well also...I'd consider Blowfly more of a rapper than Castor,but doesn't really matter..just opinions. I do believe guys like Castor must've had an influence on guys like Spoonie G & other early mc's...they usually rapped over older songs that were remade
mysterymediacorp 7 months ago
@mysterymediacorp I don't know which Blondie tune you refer to (never listened much to them) but you do have a point. Rapping, to me, is just "talk song", nothing strange with that, neither good or bad, just one of the ways to deliver a text. It can be done aggressively, or smoothly. Speaking of rapping softly, that was exactly what Grandmaster Flash did on "The Message". It isn't easy to make strict limits between styles.
Ragnemalm 7 months ago
@mysterymediacorp yes but there's no need as Blondie's one trip into rappin wasnt released until the end of 1981 so not even very early
ancientraver19881989 4 weeks ago
this paved they way to hoodlems today
TheRobert2254 1 year ago
@TheRobert2254 ummm what about heavy metal... that shit sings songs of hate and destruction... i seen lethal weapon that crazy azz heavy metal nut with a damn FLAME throw... dont cast judgement on my music mr. INTERNET tough guy.. and dont bother responding cause i have a little list that i add DUMB ASSES to that prevents me from seeing anything they do on here!!!!
solidkid4 1 year ago
...actually John Lennon ( Give Peace A Chance / 1969 ) had some of the first "rap " licks in an original song.....alot deeper than "to the beat everybody" ....
dirtyedna 1 year ago
@dirtyedna yeah but John Lennon sucked
PavelZajec 1 year ago 2
@PavelZajec ...grow up.......
dirtyedna 1 year ago
Respect
groscacabrun 1 year ago
This was really rapp, actually the first recorded rapp was by a country band in the 1920s. It didnt take off so well then but they were the first.
atp1962 1 year ago
True all this that has been said but i think rap was at its best back then when they sampled funk songs. Nowdays everybodys doing the beats by themselfs but they just use presets and press a few buttons , that aint music to me. And the lyrics suck thesedays even more than they used to at 80s :DD
jeeaaman 1 year ago
"yeah", "hell yeah"......so, anybody got a number for the back-up singers?
woooooooowwwwwwwwwww 1 year ago
@woooooooowwwwwwwwwww Bill Curtis is still around. He's on myspace, you might want to hit him up & ask if they're still around. Now remember, this is like 30 years ago!!!
DatSoulBoss 1 year ago
its sad that we cannot make music the way we used to without having to modernize the sound....we actually used to play instruments???? wow imagine that...what a concept, LEARNING HOW TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT:(
phunkidruma 1 year ago
isn't it just a funk?
jdef110 1 year ago
i remember I bought this 45 rpm! the good ole days!
crxboyone 1 year ago
the 1st. form of fast talking with music I have heard was when I was about 7yrs. old and it was a record called( life is a rock reunion) back in 1974 I don't know if you would just call it rap though.
enwitmol 1 year ago
sorry to say, but this aint even close to hiphop. this is just talkin on a funky beat
similar01 1 year ago
@similar01 First of all, "Hip Hop" has NOTHING to do with the initial form of Urban music, "hip hop" is the pirated version of Blues, Funk, Rock, Soul, and other aspects of Urban energy. The original American form of Urban energy began in the states that was big on agriculture mainly, the South and along the "Chittlin' Circuit". Thats where James Brown, Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Rudy Ray More, Michael Jackson, Miles Davis, Sam Cook, Bojangles Robinson, Sammy Davis Jr. and millions more came from.
KokoDaBoogyman 1 year ago
@KokoDaBoogyman Pump ya brakes.. No disrepect to the origins of Rap as a genre in and of itself. however, let's not confuse Rap with hip hop as a whole culture and everything does not go back to blues funk rock etc.. aLl the performers you named were great however the culture was not relevant to hip hop and the things young people in hip hop did to express themselves.. and michael jackson does'nt belong in that group... retort and I'll give time based references, and Yes. Fatback is THE PIONEER
MilesMyles 1 year ago
Uh...I am sorry, but Gil Scott Heron was singin rap music long B4 this man rapped.
funkateerkitty 1 year ago
Some would say that Frank Zappa was rapping in 1966 on Freak Out!' - "Trouble Everyday".
msenkpiel 1 year ago
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THE FIRST Recorded RAP Record was "We Rap More Mellow" by the Younger Generation (it was actually the furious five without Flash). It was on Brass Records and came out a few weeks before King Tim the Third. It was produced by Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, former members of the TIME. Get@Me
nappybigz 1 year ago
I don't know that you can necessarily make a determination as to what the first rap album is. If someone talks instead of sings, is that rapping? Depends on your definition of rap. This was most definitely the first record where the idea of speaking in a rhythm was unabashedly embraced, for sure - the first single that was influenced by the "rap subculture." Doesn't compare to Rapper's Delight as a rap composition, but it might as well be the one that started it all.
surfer53 2 years ago
The Dolemite & Blowfly were recording tunes b4 this...
willymageestudio 2 years ago
Fatback did not get the recognition they deserved for influencing Pop music. Although they may not have started Rhyme in general, but they re-introduced that "Rapping to the beat" trend in R&B style by doing what DJ's didn't do (putting it on vinyl record) they did it in the summer of 1979. The DJ's caught on to it 2 months later, and the rest is history.
panmandee 2 years ago
WOW! WHO IN THE HELL GOT THIS FOOTAGE???? My first look at the rapper of this song for the first time in my whole life!!! WOW!! Even as a kid I was like, "Fatback Band? They're a music group and they're doing a rap song? LOL!! But the dude was rappin with crazy swag and I loved it even as a kid!! History right there.......
coolflex 2 years ago
yea your right that is history in the making ....they should have one last concert for the old school tunes
mocha1812 2 years ago
Natalie Cole was first to rap with her classic rap on Our Love 1977. There are no recorded raps before that.
vlomond 2 years ago
FYI, kurtis blow made the original modern rap with the CHRISTMAS RAP, if you want to go that far back, I should know I was in 9th grade in 1977-78 when kurtis blow made that, I had the original 45 rpm vinyl and 33 1/3 rpm album of "the breaks" but JAMES brown was rappin in the late 50's, he was the father of SOUL, R&B and RAP!
infantrygerbil 2 years ago
James Brown was the man its true but the legendary Louis Jordan from the 1940's influnenced the godfather & that cat was Rappin' waaaay back then!
thedudekatman 2 years ago
@infantrygerbil
It came after King Tim III in October 1979. I was a DJ back then. We got the records as promos before they are released to the public. Oct. 1979, that is when they released Kurtis Blow. Fatback started the trend.
panmandee 2 years ago
Too bad the origin of rap went to shit with gangsta crap.
lowriderbandfan 2 years ago 27
You're so damn right Fella!
Funkateer79 2 years ago
@lowriderbandfan That like saying rock with to shit with death metal, Jazz went to shit with fusion, Soul with shit with Thug RnB...
omgitsjulian 1 year ago
@omgitsjulian, Rock did go to shit with Cookie Monster death metal. Not too sure about Jazz and fusion since I'm not too much into that. Soul went to shit too with Thug RnB, whatever that means. All I know is, if it says thug, it probably isn't good. ; )
lowriderbandfan 1 year ago
@lowriderbandfan Sounds like your attitude just went sour and your curiosity got stuck in some forgotten decade. Sweeping generalizations like these just make you sound old and out of touch. Music needs to branch out, more often time than not in ways you don't like. I hope your saltiness only reaches as far as music. And even with that you're missing out on a lot.
omgitsjulian 1 year ago
@lowriderbandfan Gangsta/Old School rap is great, this "New School" is where it's gone to shit, in my opinion.
ToxicAntony 1 year ago
@lowriderbandfan actually Gangsta Rap (g-funk) was the reason for the groove in the 90's. Funk was dead in the late 80's but not official ! Gangsta Rap/Gangsta-Funk(g-funk) was there!
LowRagg 1 year ago
@lowriderbandfan Not With Eminem
YoVille101Andmore 11 months ago
@lowriderbandfan ok man you just basickly said E-azy E, Tupac, Biggie Smallz,ice-cube,ice-t,and N.W.A sucks its not gangsta rap anymore there is no moe gangsta rap now its all new-skool crap and its all about sex.
Junior3442 10 months ago 13
@Junior3442 agreed
AnalTurtles 10 months ago
@lowriderbandfan depending on peoples preference
sonpat11 10 months ago
@lowriderbandfan wait. the origin and the 'gangsta rap era' of hiphop are chronologically at diff. places in the music roots-line.
astroblak82 8 months ago
George Clinton say there once was a man in a canoe woke up with a hand full of goo ! He was rapping that before this. Just like James Brown say some like fat some like tall skinny legs and all.
FlawseyBee 2 years ago
may be the first recorded rap, but its not the beginning. the lyrics from rappers delight was floating around since 76.
written by cas'.
MrPhillyrick1 2 years ago 3
@MrPhillyrick1
Actually, country singers used to do the same thing years before that (Convoy 1976, Hot Rod Lincoln 1958). It also dates back to Blues artists back in the 1920's.
panmandee 2 years ago
"Rapper's Delight" was released in September of 1979 and "King Tim III" (Personality Jock) was released in July of 1979. There was no such genre known as Hip Hop at the time. The Grammy's didn't even officially categorize Hip Hop as its own genre until 1989. Back in 1979 it was known as Pop. If we want to go back and rewrite history then this should be considered Hip Hop as well as Rapper's Delight and since it came out two months earlier, then it is indeed the first recorded Hip Hop song.
PHILFISH696969 2 years ago
Damn from King Tim III to Sonic Soundwaveus...
The Alpha & Omega's of hip hop.
WestWeCan 2 years ago
yeah the girl at 1:40 can get she can still get it now lol
3gEnt2009 2 years ago
She sho is sexy
Clanmemberkalvin 2 years ago
compared to music now this is more like DC go-go music than hip-hop but its all the above really. Fatback probably doesn't get as much recognition as they should for their influence on urban music in general because they had a strong disco feel to their funk.
ForBeatsSake 2 years ago
"Rapper's Delight" was recorded in 1979...
couloure 2 years ago
this was ahead of rappers delight
taylor4660 2 years ago 3
Something tells me Hip-hop has strayed a little too far from it's roots. This stuff is fun and kick ass. Modern rap is becoming way too much about ego and bull shit....the music seems to be unimportant.
earthboundcruiser 2 years ago 9
That's not entirely true, There are lot's of true hiphop artist performing today. The people you are referring to are not hiphop or rap artist they are simply a by-product of the times.
In other words, every so often the the music industry has to take a shit to unload all of the toxins that its injested over say a generation, what you hear on the radio today...is the result of the giant shit that the music industry has taken recently.
pinecone22 2 years ago
@earthboundcruiser I'm so sick of hearing this crap, yes the stuff you hear on the radio etc. is almost always bad, but what sort of music are you into? Are the best examples of the genre of music you're into found on the radio? I'm guessing not so why shouldn't it be the same for hip hop? If you want to find good, recent hip hop you actually have to look for it.
withmynamelast 8 months ago
@withmynamelast If you don't know that hip hop on the radio was better back in the day than it is now...then shut the fuck up. The first time I ever heard hip hop was on the radio and it blew me away. I still love hip hop, I just don't like what has happened to commercial hip hop. It's complete BS.
earthboundcruiser 8 months ago
@earthboundcruiser Did you even read my comment you idiot? It's not 1979 anymore, you've got to look for good music and stop fucking complaining about how it doesn't come to you anymore.
withmynamelast 8 months ago
@withmynamelast Do you have some sort of issues or something? I wasn't whining...just stating the obvious. Rap has lost its way. Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game. Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business. It forgot where it started. So we gather here for the dearly departed.
earthboundcruiser 7 months ago
@earthboundcruiser My issue is that attitudes like yours breed further negativity towards the genre, when there are lots of artists out there trying to keep it alive, my point was that there is still plenty of good hip hop being made but it's not going to find you necessarily you have to find it. Ironic that Nas's gimmicky album about hip hop being dead went Gold, making him alot of money you can bet, so the attention it gathered due to its controversial title was a marketting tool..
withmynamelast 7 months ago
@withmynamelast What attitude?...and yes it is ironic.
earthboundcruiser 7 months ago
@withmynamelast I think you are barking up the wrong tree mate. I like gangsta rap, I like old school, I like all kinds of shit. I have no negativity. When you have to go out looking for good rap like a prospector looking for gold...that means that hip hop in general has taken a blow and has been co-opted by the corporate whores and sells outs. That doesn't mean that good rap doesn't exist. It just means Lil Wayne sux.
earthboundcruiser 7 months ago 2
@earthboundcruiser And I agree that commercial hip hop has gotten terrible
withmynamelast 8 months ago
@withmynamelast It seems we agree
earthboundcruiser 8 months ago
this is music history (=
great
is better
today is rapmusic shit and boring
sry for the silly english
I`m german
brismaboy 2 years ago
Hell yeah. Reading about Fatback in David Howard's book "Sonic Alchemy"... EXCELLENT!
p.s. Love the girl at 1:40 right after "Say WHAT?!"
calvinlotz 2 years ago
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srry but i dnt like it. sounds like sugar hill. and sugar hill suck. i like kanye and common and lup and talib etc. but i dnt like this disco/ rap style.
BeastBoyBjerkin 2 years ago
This what all rap sounded like when it first came out
nyis2cold 2 years ago 4
if you don't like this man you don't like hip-hop this is the early days. And one part of it , Hip-hop is a multi colored movement ,like music in her entire life. Comming from A to Z...
videodrug 2 years ago 2
Thanks You King Tim III and Fatback for Help paving The Way for Hip Hop
badlandsbooker 2 years ago
this song is great, I really don't get it where did hiphop/rap music go wrong, I mean coz nowadays hiphop/rap sucks:D
Karolensian 2 years ago 26
@Karolensian First of all they got greedy, but secondly they started making music on aggression and forgot to make it swing like the blues and funk that paved the way for them. Don't get me wrong gangstarap is great as a genre but "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing" :)
rasmuslm 1 year ago
@Karolensian
it went wrong when record execs saw a market and flooded it with weak, generic, watered-down Rap/Hip Hop. Kids thast wanna be/look/act rebelious buy the most shocking/outrageous -and usually sh*t - stuff and that's the stuff we see on TV shows etc. REAL Hip HOP is alive and well and living where it's always lived... UNDERGROUND ;D
stOOpid68 1 year ago
@Karolensian As I saw everyone is answering to you comment, and I love to answer to 1 year ago comments I will reply.
Hip hop went wrong when niggers with social issues "gangsters" stole it.
(I say "gangsters" because I would not consider them gangsters, they dont even know what a real gangster is)
:D gratz on having a 1 year old comment :]
maptik 1 year ago
@maptik
their called studio gangstas. Most of them live now in gated communities yet the claim their still "hood" and pushing weight.
iMixMasTer 1 year ago
@iMixMasTer They suck
maptik 1 year ago
@Karolensian
not every nowaday's rap is gangsta shit..
why do people always have to generalize everything... -.-
Blace007 1 year ago
@Karolensian money lol
franklynthree 1 year ago
@Karolensian Nowadays hiphop doesn't suck, Nowadays MAINSTREAM hiphop SUCKS.
kontrast1992 1 year ago
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@Karolensian Nowadays hiphop doesn't suck, Nowadays MAINSTREAM hiphop SUCKS.
kontrast1992 1 year ago
@Karolensian That's only the stuff that gets played on TV and radio. Go and watch a video called 'Trippin' at te Disco' by a group calle People Under the Stairs, to see how the spirit of this song lives on today.
bugstrut 1 year ago
marvin gaye....trouble man.....do you all agree?.....real rap....brother isaac hayes....ike's rap....true ballers......willie hutch........
DMASEDAGRT 2 years ago
and the best mcs today aren't lil wayne and soulja boy. lil wayne and soulja boy and ti went off into a separate genre of rap that melts into pop. common, talib kweli, biggie, tupac, immortal technique
Tennisers 2 years ago
soulja boy, 50 cent and mike jones are the worst excuses for rappers and are a digrace to rap. common, talib kweli, biggie, pac, and immortal technique are still keeping good rap alive
goatman5 2 years ago
COMMONS A SELLOUT.
redquilang 2 years ago
even if common's a sellout, he's still one of the best mcs of this generation
Tennisers 2 years ago 2
common will be performing long after those other bozos,
ikecot3 2 years ago 2
no one listens to timbaland, he's just mainly a producer
Tennisers 2 years ago
and now u hear garbage like Lil wayne soulja boy, TI timbaland and shit, so wack..
Imaaze2 2 years ago 3
Look up "Undisco Kidd" by Funkadelic. That has some signs of rap in it and I believe that the album, "Tales of Kidd Funkadelic" was released in 1976.
HandiAce 2 years ago
i think bob dylan subterian homesick blues shows shades of potentioal rap music, with the fast pace word rhyming
Funkadelic tho ......... LEGENDS
mike16sad 2 years ago
But the only thing Bob Dylan (r.i.p.) did was imitating the blues. I guess that's where it all really comes from...
realhiphop3000 2 years ago
i supose yea
but Bob Dylan isn't dead he's just released an album in April this year - Together Through Life
mike16sad 2 years ago 3
Actually YoshiClone112! You are absolutely WRONG. James brown, the King of Funk and Godfather of Soul, is the actual King of Rap. If you don't believe me, listen to the song "Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud" which first came out in 1969", The Big Payback" which came out in 1973 and "Get on the Good Foot" which came out in 1974 all before Aerosmith recorded "Walk This Way" in 1975. They borrowed heavily from James Brown's influences. Just ask lead singer of Areosmith, Steve Tyler.
jazziccoolcat 2 years ago
Actually, I would go back to 1965 with Bowfly and Dirty Rap...that's the first "rap" song...
needleinthehay331 2 years ago
lol, wow
how did this evolve into lil wayne's ish
pkjosh92 2 years ago 2
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1978?? this is the first rap song? Aerosmith's 1975 song walk this way was the first rap song..
YoshiClone112 2 years ago
lol moron
dagster11 2 years ago
djflash808 2 years ago
ACTUALLY...THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST....THIS MAY SHOCK YOU BUT IN 1978 THE WEST COAST PUT OUT "Caspers Groovy Ghost Show" By Casper ... ON AVI RECORDS, HOLLYWOOD CA. ...JUST A BIT OF RAP HISTIRY FOR YOU...I KNOW THERES NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN THIS...BECAUSE AVI RE-RELEASED CASPER IN 1980 AFTER THE POPULARITY OF THE SUGARHILLGANG...
djflash808 2 years ago
@djflash808 I'mma look this up 'cuz right now, I'm heavy into this very research. I kno' there had to B a song or two before "King Tim III" in the fashion that we can consider it "early hip hop"!!!
meechamaka411 1 year ago
@meechamaka411 I like that you are heavy into researching "Hip Hop". My advise to you is to understand that Hip Hop is the Christopher Columbus of Urban music. If you ask most people where this music started, they will say in New York. This form of music mutated from what was created in the South and nurtured on the "Chittlin' Circuit" New York had the means to market this form to the masses, They also gave it their own name.
KokoDaBoogyman 1 year ago
@KokoDaBoogyman Cut out the BS! everything does not go back to the chittlin circuit. That was a great time but every genre of back music and expression did NOT emerge from it. Soe things were absolutely original in their own right. LIKE HIP HOP. stop that nonsense.
MilesMyles 1 year ago
rapping first started in ny in the 1970s so this could be the first
yer4595 2 years ago 2
It is the first Recorded. dropped in the early part of 1978
Misaster77 2 years ago
Actually released in 79 about a month before the Sugar Hill Gang
hassafella 2 years ago
depends on whether you class the Watts Prophets as the first "rap" group or not
Wellard 2 years ago
great tune but not the first recorded Rap song, no no
natchannel7 2 years ago
Don't comment if you don't know what you're talking about.
tijitdamijit 2 years ago
Really it was before several weeks before Rappers Delight came out
KingMaybach 2 years ago
this is the deal, the veerryy first rap gem, i have always loved this jam, heard this before sugar hill, and still do
zuk737 2 years ago
what year was this?
gulshanat 2 years ago