@fredhassen I'm sorry Fred, must be a bit of a language thing - I don't understand what "I give" means. Or what "REAL" training means? Could you please explain a little clearer for me? Thank you for saying the training you saw is awesome. I hope you are being sincere. The AVSAB Position Statement is easily accessible online so guide the vets there. Have you read it? Google "AVSAB position statement" and you'll find it. Good reference to have.
This Vet has not read the American Veterinary Society Position Statement on punishment for training animals. Do a search "avsab position statement punishment" Shock collars use positive punishment to train.
@fredhassen The link took me to the same vet in same video. Have you approached a veterinary behaviourist for their opinion on animal behaviour and the research related to positive punishment and its side effects? If you contact the American Veterinary Society for Animal Behavior they should be able to give you some good contacts.P.S. veterinarians are not expert in animal behaviour - physiology, anatomy and pathology definitely. They do extra training to become a behavourist.
@Zurison Yes, I just checked it.....sorry about that. Try again, I'm sure I fixed it this time. This other video is a 3 part video with links at the end of each one. Another Vet.
@fredhassen Thank you Fred. The 2nd vet also has not read the AVSAB position statements on punishment for training animals. Looks impressive - as long as you ignore the signs of stress the dogs are exhibitiing (which most people ignore because they dont' recognize them, head shakes, yawning, excessive panting, ears back, tail down, looking away, pensive movements etc ) If you could achieve the same impressive looking results without the stress shown by the dogs, would you change your method?
@Zurison I would love to put the collar on these people and see how they like it !! I thought torture was to frowned upon, or were the war crimes all tall stories ?? I have been a professional dog trainer for 30+ years and I cannot believe the level of fear displayed in the facial expression of his poor dog. Sir, you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. Your methods are barbaric and should be illegal. How about positive reward ?? Maybe the dog will enjoy being trained and not tortured.
Awful video... SMS knows nothing about dog psychology and this vet should be ashamed that he's using such aversive techniques on a teeny puppy. This dog will be absolutely terrified by the time he's 8 months.
I would just like to correct the statement about training using treats adding weight to the dog. If you subtract from their normal meal the amount of treats you will use for the day, there is absolutely no weight gain. Also, the treating doesn't go on forever, just until they learn the behavior. I have to say that the little guy doesn't look very happy though.
The SMS collars always look so bulky on the little dogs, but I've never seen them complain at all. VERY nice to see a vet who is willing to learn a bit more than the standard lines that are parroted to owners when it comes to behavior.
gusto nko itrain akong doggy. salamat sa video.
adelle0001 3 months ago
@fredhassen I'm sorry Fred, must be a bit of a language thing - I don't understand what "I give" means. Or what "REAL" training means? Could you please explain a little clearer for me? Thank you for saying the training you saw is awesome. I hope you are being sincere. The AVSAB Position Statement is easily accessible online so guide the vets there. Have you read it? Google "AVSAB position statement" and you'll find it. Good reference to have.
Zurison 9 months ago
This Vet has not read the American Veterinary Society Position Statement on punishment for training animals. Do a search "avsab position statement punishment" Shock collars use positive punishment to train.
Zurison 9 months ago
@Zurison Rewatch the video because i just put another link in near the end of the clip. Feel free to watch that one also.
fredhassen 9 months ago
@fredhassen The link took me to the same vet in same video. Have you approached a veterinary behaviourist for their opinion on animal behaviour and the research related to positive punishment and its side effects? If you contact the American Veterinary Society for Animal Behavior they should be able to give you some good contacts.P.S. veterinarians are not expert in animal behaviour - physiology, anatomy and pathology definitely. They do extra training to become a behavourist.
Zurison 9 months ago
@Zurison Yes, I just checked it.....sorry about that. Try again, I'm sure I fixed it this time. This other video is a 3 part video with links at the end of each one. Another Vet.
fredhassen 9 months ago
@fredhassen Thank you Fred. The 2nd vet also has not read the AVSAB position statements on punishment for training animals. Looks impressive - as long as you ignore the signs of stress the dogs are exhibitiing (which most people ignore because they dont' recognize them, head shakes, yawning, excessive panting, ears back, tail down, looking away, pensive movements etc ) If you could achieve the same impressive looking results without the stress shown by the dogs, would you change your method?
Zurison 9 months ago 2
@Zurison I would love to put the collar on these people and see how they like it !! I thought torture was to frowned upon, or were the war crimes all tall stories ?? I have been a professional dog trainer for 30+ years and I cannot believe the level of fear displayed in the facial expression of his poor dog. Sir, you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. Your methods are barbaric and should be illegal. How about positive reward ?? Maybe the dog will enjoy being trained and not tortured.
MysticMerlins 7 months ago 2
Why do people who hate dogs keep on buying dogs, if you hate dogs then don't buy one !!
Perhaps it is some kind of revenge thing ??
Detnavningenhavde 9 months ago
Awful video... SMS knows nothing about dog psychology and this vet should be ashamed that he's using such aversive techniques on a teeny puppy. This dog will be absolutely terrified by the time he's 8 months.
jam148 9 months ago 8
I would just like to correct the statement about training using treats adding weight to the dog. If you subtract from their normal meal the amount of treats you will use for the day, there is absolutely no weight gain. Also, the treating doesn't go on forever, just until they learn the behavior. I have to say that the little guy doesn't look very happy though.
thievingscoundrel 1 year ago 9
The SMS collars always look so bulky on the little dogs, but I've never seen them complain at all. VERY nice to see a vet who is willing to learn a bit more than the standard lines that are parroted to owners when it comes to behavior.
Sabot46290 1 year ago
Where did Ted Burkhart (sp?) go to veterinary school?
piefrance 2 years ago
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That1Guy2Remember 2 years ago