Great vid... my instructor introduced me to power on/off stalls today... I fly a 152, today we flew and the exact same thing happend to me but the right wind drped. My question is... carb heat cold and rpm to 1500 hundred at around 70 kts carb hot, rpm 2500 and a pitch of 15 right? when I stalled today there was no power at all for me to use, but to relax back pressure and the cessna did the rest. Is this right? i saw you gave a little power for stall recovery???
Thanks @MrAlexeneize , I'm not an instructor so I wouldn't presume to say what you should or shouldn't do, I was taught to recover by applying power and rudder if necessary, then back pressure when speed is ok. This was all a very long time ago too!
Thanks @GusTButt , will have to talk to my cfi bout that one... I want to make sure I do the right thing for the checkride hehe ... thanks for the response, best of luck sir.
I'll never forget.. my CFI had a stall warning fixture that he scrapped out of an older Cessna and every now and then while I was dead concentrated on flying, he'd slip it to his mouth and blow on it. It would literally make me push the control stick in from fear and confusion. Then he'd stay cracking up at my expense for the rest of the flight. Good times.
@chrisrave Excellent! My instructors would wheelie the Cessna to taxi on grass quicker while keeping the nosewheel protected off the ground, and once when we practiced an Engine failure one of them took control and flew us hedgetop height across a field.
Hello. Nice vid. I have a question for anyone (preferably a pilot) to answer. When can stalls be practiced? Does it have to be outside a control zone or no? Please answer! Thanks!
took long to add the power, he let the wing drop to much before recovering, didnt use enough rudder to avoid the wing from droppin that way, it looks nice thou, i cant wait to practice some power off/on/turning stalls, n some slow flight =)
actually u dnt even need to use aileron for recovry but its recommended by the mnufacturer, in a c152 once u enter into SPIN it will recover by itself but make sure u follow the PSin recovery procedure everytime
took long to add the power, he let the wing drop to much before recovering, didnt use enough rudder to avoid the wing from droppin that way, it looks nice thou, i cant wait to practice some power off/on/turning stalls, n some slow flight =)
@N617A Best to check with your instructor, but my understanding is no aileron until you've recovered using rudder and throttle otherwise you can exacerbate the stall, so, rudder and throttle, then bring wings level with aileron and pull up to stop your descent and recover height.
@GusTButt Using ailerons in a stall helps the turning tendency for a spin to develop. To spin you need 3 factors. Stalled condition, uncoordination, and a turning/twisting force (ailerons, rudder, etc...) .
@EatMyPropwash you do NOT want to use alieron UNLESS you want a spin. Otherwise straight back on the yolk and lot's o right rudder. I make that mistake pract. stalls of trying to correct with Alieron and instructor not so happy.
@casey10614 Thank you... I've been a CFI for the past 3 years... Hence why I had sarcasm in my answer and said nothing I haven't seen 1,000,000x over.
That was a nice stall, although I would say that it was uncoordinated right at the last second, therefore the dropped left wing. Holding right rudder before the stall would have avoided that.
Hi @leovalencia10 , Thanks for the comment. I was quite happy to have a wing drop as I was interested in practising the stall recovery rather than preventing an incipient spin.
Its alot easier when you are doing it. THe first one my CFI did and it scared the crap out of me. Once you do it its different because you have controll. The drop isnt that bad and the cessna recovers very well. To be honest you really have to work in alot of back pressure to stall the thing.
Yeah very true but this wasn't very violent, a spiral dive is more fun but try doing this in a 43 year old cessna 150 you can tell anymore and it will fall apart.
I dont beleive so. My understand is that the FAA dropped the demonstrated spin recovery requirnment as to many people were getting themselves killed and or hurt. The spin is not really dangerous to the plane as it does not create a great deal of stress, the problem is that people get disoriented or worse the planes CG is wrong and they cant recover from the spin.
Watch the yoke in the video, there should be no aileron until after recovering from the incipient spin which should be using rudder. After recovering from incipient spin, use aileron to bring the wings level and when speed recovered, pull back to stop losing height (watching the speed so you don't put it into another stall). Try to imagine if this were to happen on approach or take-off at low altitude, that's what the training is intended for.
Yeah I remember doing this.. Recovering from a wing drop can be a little panicky, and i can remember my instructor really having to tell me not to use alieron to correct for wingdrop until after the recovery of the stall.. I still have to resist the urge to roll level first..
@vaudreyt I agree this is very common to try an correct with Aileron. Took me a few almost spin's to figure that out! All you need is to pull back and strong right rudder.
My first one in my private training was a bit "different' but it wasn't SCARY. After you do a few of them they actually become fun! Although, I still haven't done a stall by myself with no instructor in the airplane, even though I have my license now. I plan on trying it someday...maybe when I have my dad in the plane HAHA (He would never fly with me again!)
its over-rated, not as scary as people say they are, they are more fun; just know what your doing, how do recover and have flaps in case and your fine.
@dano94 only if you don't know what's happening. In a Cessna even if you get into a spin it usually recover's almost by itself. If you have an instructor they are trained in spin recovery. no big deal
its really hard sometimes to not let the nose drop too far. sometimes it has to drop pretty far otherwise u will keep stalling. i used to be shit scared of them haha
I'm not claiming it to be a perfect stall, but I think you can see that I don't apply aileron until I've applied rudder am nose down and have regained the necessary airspeed to be able to apply aileron to bring the wings level.
Let er go! lol
atpchase 1 month ago
Great vid... my instructor introduced me to power on/off stalls today... I fly a 152, today we flew and the exact same thing happend to me but the right wind drped. My question is... carb heat cold and rpm to 1500 hundred at around 70 kts carb hot, rpm 2500 and a pitch of 15 right? when I stalled today there was no power at all for me to use, but to relax back pressure and the cessna did the rest. Is this right? i saw you gave a little power for stall recovery???
MrAlexeneize 8 months ago 2
Thanks @MrAlexeneize , I'm not an instructor so I wouldn't presume to say what you should or shouldn't do, I was taught to recover by applying power and rudder if necessary, then back pressure when speed is ok. This was all a very long time ago too!
GusTButt 8 months ago
Thanks @GusTButt , will have to talk to my cfi bout that one... I want to make sure I do the right thing for the checkride hehe ... thanks for the response, best of luck sir.
MrAlexeneize 8 months ago
@MrAlexeneize The correct steps are:
1. Check forward (push control column forward to break stall)
2. Use opposite rudder if a wing drops. DO NOT use any aileron!
3. Full power, carb heat off. Bring nose up to horizon.
4. Once airspeed returns to normal, return to cruise.
Source: About a week away from my PPL hopefully :)
benj1701 6 months ago
I've always called it the "baby crying". seems more apprapoe..
jbranco254 8 months ago
I'll never forget.. my CFI had a stall warning fixture that he scrapped out of an older Cessna and every now and then while I was dead concentrated on flying, he'd slip it to his mouth and blow on it. It would literally make me push the control stick in from fear and confusion. Then he'd stay cracking up at my expense for the rest of the flight. Good times.
chrisrave 10 months ago
@chrisrave Excellent! My instructors would wheelie the Cessna to taxi on grass quicker while keeping the nosewheel protected off the ground, and once when we practiced an Engine failure one of them took control and flew us hedgetop height across a field.
GusTButt 10 months ago
typical uncoordinated stall... nothing I haven't seen 1,000,000x over... Imagine if he tried correcting with ailerons... those are always fun. :-)
EatMyPropwash 10 months ago
Nice video.
How did you mount your camera ?
ArnaudHahaa 11 months ago
@ArnaudHahaa Thanks, tripod in cargo area held down to the cargo ties with an "octopus" (8 armed bungee with hooks).
GusTButt 11 months ago
Hello. Nice vid. I have a question for anyone (preferably a pilot) to answer. When can stalls be practiced? Does it have to be outside a control zone or no? Please answer! Thanks!
kylepetten 1 year ago
@kylepetten Hi, Thanks. We only ever practiced stalls VFR off circuit i.e. outside controlled airspace.
GusTButt 1 year ago
took long to add the power, he let the wing drop to much before recovering, didnt use enough rudder to avoid the wing from droppin that way, it looks nice thou, i cant wait to practice some power off/on/turning stalls, n some slow flight =)
actually u dnt even need to use aileron for recovry but its recommended by the mnufacturer, in a c152 once u enter into SPIN it will recover by itself but make sure u follow the PSin recovery procedure everytime
warofagesx 1 year ago
took long to add the power, he let the wing drop to much before recovering, didnt use enough rudder to avoid the wing from droppin that way, it looks nice thou, i cant wait to practice some power off/on/turning stalls, n some slow flight =)
warofagesx 1 year ago
@warofagesx I wasn't trying to avoid wing drop as the point was stall recovery, not prevention.
GusTButt 10 months ago
@GusTButt You're not supposed to use aileron to ease out of the dive though... you're not in a spiral.
luvmantlucian 8 months ago
@luvmantlucian where do you see aileron before I used rudder?
GusTButt 8 months ago
if your wing drops like that and u add power and recover from that stall should u use rudder too or recover then use aileron to snap it back up?
N617A 1 year ago
@N617A Best to check with your instructor, but my understanding is no aileron until you've recovered using rudder and throttle otherwise you can exacerbate the stall, so, rudder and throttle, then bring wings level with aileron and pull up to stop your descent and recover height.
GusTButt 1 year ago
@GusTButt Using ailerons in a stall helps the turning tendency for a spin to develop. To spin you need 3 factors. Stalled condition, uncoordination, and a turning/twisting force (ailerons, rudder, etc...) .
EatMyPropwash 10 months ago
@EatMyPropwash you do NOT want to use alieron UNLESS you want a spin. Otherwise straight back on the yolk and lot's o right rudder. I make that mistake pract. stalls of trying to correct with Alieron and instructor not so happy.
casey10614 10 months ago
@casey10614 Thank you... I've been a CFI for the past 3 years... Hence why I had sarcasm in my answer and said nothing I haven't seen 1,000,000x over.
EatMyPropwash 10 months ago
@EatMyPropwash cool man. Yeah newbies trying to kill ya...lol what are your goals as far as flying..they said regionals should be hiring again.
casey10614 10 months ago
@N617A
That was a nice stall, although I would say that it was uncoordinated right at the last second, therefore the dropped left wing. Holding right rudder before the stall would have avoided that.
leovalencia10 1 year ago
Hi @leovalencia10 , Thanks for the comment. I was quite happy to have a wing drop as I was interested in practising the stall recovery rather than preventing an incipient spin.
GusTButt 1 year ago
It's always cool to hear the different pitches that the stall warning horn can produce.
chrisrave 2 years ago 5
@chrisrave stall warning is never COOL. haha
casey10614 10 months ago
Its alot easier when you are doing it. THe first one my CFI did and it scared the crap out of me. Once you do it its different because you have controll. The drop isnt that bad and the cessna recovers very well. To be honest you really have to work in alot of back pressure to stall the thing.
WTurbiasz 2 years ago 5
Yeah very true but this wasn't very violent, a spiral dive is more fun but try doing this in a 43 year old cessna 150 you can tell anymore and it will fall apart.
mattyccc2009 2 years ago
Very, very well said. The first time my instructor did this, like you, I got massively scared.
TonyDog360 2 years ago
I know it's not required for your PPL but what about for Commerical?
ncn8ochaser 2 years ago
I dont beleive so. My understand is that the FAA dropped the demonstrated spin recovery requirnment as to many people were getting themselves killed and or hurt. The spin is not really dangerous to the plane as it does not create a great deal of stress, the problem is that people get disoriented or worse the planes CG is wrong and they cant recover from the spin.
WTurbiasz 2 years ago
Mean! I did my first wing drop stall with my instructor the other week. There's stalling and then there's this! It scared the hell out of me!!
ca11um15 2 years ago
just wondering, so were you using a little bit of aileron and full rudder for recovery?
tickle2012 2 years ago
Watch the yoke in the video, there should be no aileron until after recovering from the incipient spin which should be using rudder. After recovering from incipient spin, use aileron to bring the wings level and when speed recovered, pull back to stop losing height (watching the speed so you don't put it into another stall). Try to imagine if this were to happen on approach or take-off at low altitude, that's what the training is intended for.
GusTButt 2 years ago
Yeah I remember doing this.. Recovering from a wing drop can be a little panicky, and i can remember my instructor really having to tell me not to use alieron to correct for wingdrop until after the recovery of the stall.. I still have to resist the urge to roll level first..
vaudreyt 1 year ago 3
@vaudreyt I agree this is very common to try an correct with Aileron. Took me a few almost spin's to figure that out! All you need is to pull back and strong right rudder.
casey10614 10 months ago
great recovery!
murphymoo001 2 years ago
Thanks!
GusTButt 2 years ago
Perfect answer...GusTButt !!!
janmytnik 2 years ago
I did these today, first one was quite a big drop... I enjoyed them, but can understand why people wouldn't lol :)
firefly130379 2 years ago
should apply more right rudder...
Spin is more exciting...
alvinwangcherntat 3 years ago
left to spin
alexander22pt 2 years ago
Hey Pilots!
Just curious, is it scary being in a stall at first, whats the feeling like?
dano94 3 years ago
Was not scary for me but i love airplanes for non pilots it might be scary but it just feels like your falling out of the sky.
atvmaster281 3 years ago
falling out of the sky sounds like scary business,
umahuma4 3 years ago
Yeah it sure does!
theflyingkid1 2 years ago
My first one in my private training was a bit "different' but it wasn't SCARY. After you do a few of them they actually become fun! Although, I still haven't done a stall by myself with no instructor in the airplane, even though I have my license now. I plan on trying it someday...maybe when I have my dad in the plane HAHA (He would never fly with me again!)
samuelts 2 years ago
@samuelts Wing-over's are way more fun than stalls if you are by yourself.
casey10614 10 months ago
its over-rated, not as scary as people say they are, they are more fun; just know what your doing, how do recover and have flaps in case and your fine.
srich10594 2 years ago
@dano94 only if you don't know what's happening. In a Cessna even if you get into a spin it usually recover's almost by itself. If you have an instructor they are trained in spin recovery. no big deal
casey10614 10 months ago
its really hard sometimes to not let the nose drop too far. sometimes it has to drop pretty far otherwise u will keep stalling. i used to be shit scared of them haha
givinguptheghost1988 3 years ago
When i did this as part of my training i always overcooked opposite rudder and entered a spin on the opposite side
jimmyrussell23 3 years ago
lol i hate these
i just recently done them in my flying training
not a big fan of them im afraid
we did ours with flaps 20
bimbo05 3 years ago 2
I know its a habit, but your not suppose to use any alerion... that can cause a spin... RUDDER ONLY...
t02t02t02 3 years ago
I'm not claiming it to be a perfect stall, but I think you can see that I don't apply aileron until I've applied rudder am nose down and have regained the necessary airspeed to be able to apply aileron to bring the wings level.
GusTButt 3 years ago
Whoa... almost an incipient spin there eh? hahaha
qqcolaman 4 years ago
Yip, if I remember rightly it was with flap, which increases the chance of a wing drop.
GusTButt 4 years ago
yeah, I started my training about a month ago, I am doing Spins and Spiral dives (hopefully) this weekend... yeehaw!
Awesome vid man!
qqcolaman 4 years ago
I did my first stalls today! with a good 30 degrees of flaps... too fun!
qqcolaman 4 years ago
dude where did you fix de camera?
poupasamarelo 4 years ago
Tripod in the cargo area tied down to the cargo loops with bungie cord. Camera started by remote control.
GusTButt 4 years ago