Let's face it...they did the best they could with what they had. Without a steady source of water to draw from,the fact they knocked it down as well as they did is a tribute to them. Many FD's would get there in time to save the lot...maybe...
well people you can not have foam unless you have water because all foam is is a soapy substance you have to have water and air to produce foam thanks
you're a dumbass. part of the reason it took off was because of propane. and of course, well off on arrival. if you wanna go rushing in, by all means, go right ahead. i'm not gonna be the one that goes in after you. you can burn for all i care for your ignorance and stupidity. have a nice day.
@Armyrescue 2 ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! Any REAL firefighter knows that saving others peoples lives and property comes before their lives (refferring to the comments made in tje begginning)
I like how the foam works guys/gals, seems like it darkens down the fire real well. Its to bad where I come from a city department that we cant use foam cause all of our other engine crews will just wash it away with their water- Stay safe- from Boston
@master3346 Lol wait your a fire fighter??? where i come from you wouldn't even be looked at as a fire fighter, the chiefs would laugh & walk away ..... maybe if you improved your attitude you would have a chance but some how i doubt it
dude really, its bin over a year now that i commented this an when i did i didn't kno the facts an take back what i said so drop it an no i ant no i dont fight fires any more kuz i needed better money then what it pays just to make it in this fuck up life we all live...
Great knock on that fire, i never knew what it was like to not have a water supply because im in a city and we have hydrants that get great gpm. Using a mixture of foam and water is becoming popular and it is quite effective with smothering the fire if you use the proper 1% mixture if you dont have a CAFS system. The problem with letting a house burn down and not even acting like you are trying sends a wrong message to the public about the fire service.
If you cant save the house get a few lines on it to keep the fire in check and have your exposure lines protecting them, even trees. From what i saw in the video it was nice seeing firefighters staying back. Too many people are worried about getting there helmets dirty instead of life safety. What state is this in?
This clearly shows how well foam works on a fire. It also shows how a lack of good water supply can kill an attack. Nice job with what they had early on.
Don't you hate it when you have the manpower but no dang water, sucks on those rural tanker runs. Thank god for mutual aid then, good quality video man, Awesome!!
Looks like a total loss??? Lets face it wet stuff on the red stuff........Without it it isn't gonna go out by itself...Granted the water supply was low, but does that mean everything is a total loss???
Looks like a very well seated and involved fire on arrival based on fire from 1st floor to roof. The area I responded has similar structures occasionally and also the same lack of water. Not to Monday morning quarterback, but what about letting it burn since the structure and contents are a complete loss and just protecting the exposures? From what I can see here there was nothing salvageable and the only threat for extension was a grass fire.
there is no way that water would have knocked that down so quick. Foam is always the best route to take. expensive as hell.. but a damn good fighting agent. i was a damage controlman in the Navy. We believed in the foam.. Ours was called AFFF. What is your guys?
ITS LIKE THE BRUSHFIRE I JUST WENT TO IN A NEIGHBORING TOWN (sorry caps lock was on) ....we needed water but it was deep in the woods .... so instead we used lots and lots of foam , a john deer gator with a pump and water tank and a few thousand feet of hose and a shitload of indian pumps ....all using class A foam to make quick work with only minimal water
@firedude201234 So you couldn't take 5 seconds out of your day to use the fancy "Backspace" button and fix the caps? But you took the time to say sorry the caps lock was on? Nice.
Gee that was genius, all the fire and action is to left but THANKFULLY you were able move the camera to the right. Tough call between burning house or non functioning strobe.
The foam was able to knock alot of the fire down, but unfortunitly due to the location of this call, water was not easily found or able to get. Had there been more water, it would have been different
Is water supply an issue? I hear you bud, our area is about 75% Hydrant. the rest we rely on our tankers, or mutual-aid for tankers. Good job with the CAFS
driveway was 1800-1900 ft long (i packed all the 5" that day) and the road itself had to be half a mile long but extremely rough for tankers, so they established a fill site at the tech school and set up a the relay at charlestown rd and sycamore lane
I can not answer for Charleston, but there are three tankers that serve Charlestown Township. Are you from around there? Maybe you should survey the area and to get a better feel of what we were up against because you obviously have no clue.
You keep coming here and running your mouth, but send me private messages saying drop it. Pot Stirring, non spelling Kentland wannna-be all you are and ever will be.
Idiot... If you were from "kentland" like you claim you would never say "46" cause everyone knows 46 is the bastard child of kentland... Come on dude you should know that!!!
It's always easy to sit there and bash a Dept based on a video that u have no clue what is going on in... if u read back in the notes this fire was 1000ft up a driveway with "NO" hyrdrants in the area. From the video u can tell the dwelling is already well off and with only havin the water in the tank to work off, we couldn't make an interior attack due to NO WATER SUPPLY! TRUST ME we are a "VERY AGGRESSIVE" Dept and if we had a secure plug we would have made a hellova attack on it!
Apparently where you come from they don't have a 1/2 decent reading comprehension ability either or you are a complete idiot that has nothing better to do than bash others while avoiding the presented facts. Read the other postings and you will see that it was not left to burn.
foam is used to put out fire's any kind of fire a house fire Building fire vehicle fire grass fire brush fire any kind of fire that we have in my city we use foam no matter what kind of fire it is
The way this fire was being attacked (and the limited camera angle) I thought it was a practice burn until I read the comments. A tanker show.. Now it all makes sense!
This fire was at the end of a dead end road that was narrow enough that you couldn't pass two cars side by side let alone fire trucks. No hydrants and 1,800 feet of 5" hose was laid from end of drivway to the house. Our ladder truck barely mad eit to the house. With limited access only 1 engine and ladder made it in. The "real hoses were deployed elswhere out of sight. The line you see was for the propane fires we had (3 total). The closes major road was around 1 mile away.
it was more of a lack of water. the clip probably never showed this but the dwelling was on top of a small but problematic hill. elevation and friction loss.
the nearest hydrant was at the technical school about 1 1/2 miles away and they had about 5 tankers shuttling water into valley forge's portable tank.
we really should've had a relay pumper set up at about 1000 ft to help fight the friction loss and they should've had the tanker closer to the main road because they had to back in the tankers and that was very time consuming, from what i understand.
of course, i wouldn't know too much about the tanker situation. just going off of what i heard from the guys that were down the hill at the port-a-pond/pumper.
it's unfortunate that we lost the house but we had to take up a defensive posture because of how far off the fire was.
@scokc12 me, we, them. Firefighter safety is top priority.
aaronkundla 2 months ago
Let's face it...they did the best they could with what they had. Without a steady source of water to draw from,the fact they knocked it down as well as they did is a tribute to them. Many FD's would get there in time to save the lot...maybe...
catman5169 3 months ago
It looks to me like they are using wet water instead of foam which works pretty good on most fires.
trophybird 6 months ago
well people you can not have foam unless you have water because all foam is is a soapy substance you have to have water and air to produce foam thanks
wholley13 7 months ago
@master3346
you're a dumbass. part of the reason it took off was because of propane. and of course, well off on arrival. if you wanna go rushing in, by all means, go right ahead. i'm not gonna be the one that goes in after you. you can burn for all i care for your ignorance and stupidity. have a nice day.
killerlarryusmc 9 months ago
@Armyrescue 2 ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! Any REAL firefighter knows that saving others peoples lives and property comes before their lives (refferring to the comments made in tje begginning)
scokc12 10 months ago
@scokc12 You are wrong sir. Without US there is no THEM.
xx6pure6evil6xx 1 month ago
I like how the foam works guys/gals, seems like it darkens down the fire real well. Its to bad where I come from a city department that we cant use foam cause all of our other engine crews will just wash it away with their water- Stay safe- from Boston
rgalvin7 10 months ago
sweet...
93CFD 11 months ago
@master3346 what do you want them to do? Race inside? That would be a death wish, any firemen knows his life comes first.
ArmyRescue2 1 year ago
@master3346 if you think you can do better, why didn't you save ur house than??
greenball150 1 year ago
@master3346 Lol wait your a fire fighter??? where i come from you wouldn't even be looked at as a fire fighter, the chiefs would laugh & walk away ..... maybe if you improved your attitude you would have a chance but some how i doubt it
buncombenotifier 1 year ago
dude really, its bin over a year now that i commented this an when i did i didn't kno the facts an take back what i said so drop it an no i ant no i dont fight fires any more kuz i needed better money then what it pays just to make it in this fuck up life we all live...
master3346 1 year ago
@master3346 if you were ever a real firefighter which you were not you would know it's not about money it's about making a difference.
ArmyRescue2 1 year ago
They tried their hardest. It's not the firefighter's fault that it was located away from pipes
poetlaureatte94 1 year ago
Great knock on that fire, i never knew what it was like to not have a water supply because im in a city and we have hydrants that get great gpm. Using a mixture of foam and water is becoming popular and it is quite effective with smothering the fire if you use the proper 1% mixture if you dont have a CAFS system. The problem with letting a house burn down and not even acting like you are trying sends a wrong message to the public about the fire service.
TheWagonwarrior 1 year ago
If you cant save the house get a few lines on it to keep the fire in check and have your exposure lines protecting them, even trees. From what i saw in the video it was nice seeing firefighters staying back. Too many people are worried about getting there helmets dirty instead of life safety. What state is this in?
TheWagonwarrior 1 year ago
This clearly shows how well foam works on a fire. It also shows how a lack of good water supply can kill an attack. Nice job with what they had early on.
tennis1984 1 year ago
Great video Brother, sorry for your water problem, Great job anyway, God Bless!
pumpkin343 1 year ago
im glad there smoke alarms work
airnewt 1 year ago
Don't you hate it when you have the manpower but no dang water, sucks on those rural tanker runs. Thank god for mutual aid then, good quality video man, Awesome!!
greasemonkey88 1 year ago
I use foam any time I can. Makes it soak in the wood better, and smothers better.
ftm710 1 year ago
Looks like a total loss??? Lets face it wet stuff on the red stuff........Without it it isn't gonna go out by itself...Granted the water supply was low, but does that mean everything is a total loss???
frillybass 1 year ago
Nice job guys. Nice use of the CAFS.
Don't listen to these know-it-alls who just want to argue. I think you all did just fine seeing as how water supply was an issue :)
NC403Firefighter 1 year ago
Looks like a very well seated and involved fire on arrival based on fire from 1st floor to roof. The area I responded has similar structures occasionally and also the same lack of water. Not to Monday morning quarterback, but what about letting it burn since the structure and contents are a complete loss and just protecting the exposures? From what I can see here there was nothing salvageable and the only threat for extension was a grass fire.
phultman 1 year ago
Guys, make sure you buy a house near to a Fire Hydrant :)
train672 1 year ago
oh shit. that had to be a bitch to knockdown
rsizemore12 1 year ago
there is no way that water would have knocked that down so quick. Foam is always the best route to take. expensive as hell.. but a damn good fighting agent. i was a damage controlman in the Navy. We believed in the foam.. Ours was called AFFF. What is your guys?
kissfanjohn 1 year ago
this is CAF!
Smokejumper91 1 year ago
thats not foam, thats chuck norris jizzing!
deekamikaze 1 year ago
@deekamikaze your a douche bag
bnathan7 1 year ago
@bnathan7 thanks.
deekamikaze 1 year ago
great use of foam guys good knock down from the outside
speedballinx10 1 year ago
ITS LIKE THE BRUSHFIRE I JUST WENT TO IN A NEIGHBORING TOWN (sorry caps lock was on) ....we needed water but it was deep in the woods .... so instead we used lots and lots of foam , a john deer gator with a pump and water tank and a few thousand feet of hose and a shitload of indian pumps ....all using class A foam to make quick work with only minimal water
firedude201234 1 year ago
@firedude201234 So you couldn't take 5 seconds out of your day to use the fancy "Backspace" button and fix the caps? But you took the time to say sorry the caps lock was on? Nice.
theFIREkid05 1 year ago
looks like once the lines got operational they made quick work of the fire.
JPOC226 1 year ago
Gee that was genius, all the fire and action is to left but THANKFULLY you were able move the camera to the right. Tough call between burning house or non functioning strobe.
tubesteakdynamo 1 year ago
Hey, what kinds of foams are there, and what are the differences of them?
51ENGINE51 1 year ago
Honestly, I was like where's the water. Then when the foam came out, it was like night and day! Good job guys!
Hrledood911 2 years ago
Once you guys got a good line for that foam, it really did a great job knocking down that fire.
Great job for the situation.
5/5
bullzisnipr3 2 years ago
may i ask why they used foam instead of water???? or was that all they had
UJustR4pedMe 2 years ago
The foam was able to knock alot of the fire down, but unfortunitly due to the location of this call, water was not easily found or able to get. Had there been more water, it would have been different
KJB322 2 years ago
oh ok ty
UJustR4pedMe 2 years ago
Foam works wonders for a fire attack like this many departments use it for interior attacks too
bigmlt3 2 years ago
@UJustR4pedMe That is what i was think to?
hayes4321 1 year ago
@UJustR4pedMe Class A foam can in most cases be more effective than just plain water.
phantomfred2993 1 year ago
i havent really worked with foam, 1 of are engins has 20 gal of it and thats it with the foam
cccspizza 2 years ago
they did what they could. structure fires are difficult to put out. plus half the houses are already gone before you get their.
patriotsfz 2 years ago
dont harp on these guys the structure is well involved and with the people and water they had theres not much you can do.
mesoo201 2 years ago
Older house too, when they catch, they really dont want to go out!
jamesff151 2 years ago
and wen they catch, don't take long for em to get going
80fireman 2 years ago
Typical house fires usually double in size in 30 seconds. So yea, you're definitely right, once they get going, they keep going.
bullzisnipr3 2 years ago
So you rush all the way on sirens and when you get there you do nothing, just let the property burn ?
Or have I missed something ?
train672 2 years ago
ya ur an idiot
HotMix106 2 years ago 2
LOL
Sorry, posted in haste. Pretty good job considering the situation.
train672 2 years ago
is that foam
ellisfd4821son 2 years ago
yes thats foam
WMVFDjrFF 2 years ago
nah it's prob burnout or some other type of water additive put in the booster tank
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Is water supply an issue? I hear you bud, our area is about 75% Hydrant. the rest we rely on our tankers, or mutual-aid for tankers. Good job with the CAFS
akwemsmcdonald 2 years ago
Yes it was, there was no hydrants in the area and it was a 1000ft or so long driveway so, water supply was a big contributing issue.
alter656667 2 years ago 2
dont double post
UJustR4pedMe 2 years ago
@alter656667
driveway was 1800-1900 ft long (i packed all the 5" that day) and the road itself had to be half a mile long but extremely rough for tankers, so they established a fill site at the tech school and set up a the relay at charlestown rd and sycamore lane
killerlarryusmc 1 year ago
nice job fire fighters
stevenkimball 2 years ago
when was this fire. you guys did a good job.
WMVFDjrFF 2 years ago
wow..the fire just...it ate the whole building!
Anonymus0809 3 years ago
this is a pretty cool vid!
jao216 3 years ago
I can not answer for Charleston, but there are three tankers that serve Charlestown Township. Are you from around there? Maybe you should survey the area and to get a better feel of what we were up against because you obviously have no clue.
KJB322 3 years ago
awesome video !!!!!!!!!!
twinboysfire52 3 years ago
hey where they uesing foam i see a lot of fires in de but never saw foam geting used for a house fire
DLNGMVIDS 3 years ago
You keep coming here and running your mouth, but send me private messages saying drop it. Pot Stirring, non spelling Kentland wannna-be all you are and ever will be.
Bye to you with Love
KJB322 3 years ago
Idiot... If you were from "kentland" like you claim you would never say "46" cause everyone knows 46 is the bastard child of kentland... Come on dude you should know that!!!
whitman65 3 years ago
Since you are so great at firefighting, maybe you could now go back to grammer school.
KJB322 3 years ago 2
It's always easy to sit there and bash a Dept based on a video that u have no clue what is going on in... if u read back in the notes this fire was 1000ft up a driveway with "NO" hyrdrants in the area. From the video u can tell the dwelling is already well off and with only havin the water in the tank to work off, we couldn't make an interior attack due to NO WATER SUPPLY! TRUST ME we are a "VERY AGGRESSIVE" Dept and if we had a secure plug we would have made a hellova attack on it!
pfd65lt 3 years ago
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WOW just let it burn to the ground, glad i dont live any where near thes lame fuckers, or i hope this was a drill.
master3346 3 years ago
Apparently where you come from they don't have a 1/2 decent reading comprehension ability either or you are a complete idiot that has nothing better to do than bash others while avoiding the presented facts. Read the other postings and you will see that it was not left to burn.
KJB322 3 years ago
First negative about the use of CAFS. Guess everyoen except you is a moron right? Please tell us great one, what is it used for then?
KJB322 3 years ago
Morons, thats not even what Foam is made for.
Firefighter5130 3 years ago
are u stupid or something. you can use foam on any fire, as long as it works who gives a fuck
AmericanBadAss414 3 years ago 10
@AmericanBadAss414 Foam coasts 26 dollars a gallon. Taxpayers and donaters give a fuck.
TurnpikeFire 1 year ago
lol Yea what is the foam for then?
csfd310 2 years ago
its probably class A "knockdown" foam... it is used in firefighting attack to knockdown and penetrate the fire quicker and more efficiently
2279kelly 2 years ago
foam is used to put out fire's any kind of fire a house fire Building fire vehicle fire grass fire brush fire any kind of fire that we have in my city we use foam no matter what kind of fire it is
stevenkimball 2 years ago
Very nice knock-down with the resources you had. Good video as well. Keep it up.
Intotheflames25 3 years ago
awesome video it is cool nice job i like it keep it up i love it nice video it was a big fire how did you do it we is fum fire company 52a+a+ .
twinboysfire52 3 years ago
The way this fire was being attacked (and the limited camera angle) I thought it was a practice burn until I read the comments. A tanker show.. Now it all makes sense!
911caddy 3 years ago
Knocked that fire right down once the pressure and supply was there - the foam is great!
zolessi 3 years ago
Is that CAFS?
goodwill2ndin 3 years ago
Yes..... One guy, one 1-3/4. To bad water wasn't availible to maintain the progress.
KJB322 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
take a look at my CAFS video please!
goodwill2ndin 3 years ago
what's with the sope suds?
Len.
Conrail6370 3 years ago
Foam
JPOC226 3 years ago
6+ minutes to get a real hoseline on the fire?! Um... why?! Nice footage, though.
MettaFireRescue 3 years ago
This fire was at the end of a dead end road that was narrow enough that you couldn't pass two cars side by side let alone fire trucks. No hydrants and 1,800 feet of 5" hose was laid from end of drivway to the house. Our ladder truck barely mad eit to the house. With limited access only 1 engine and ladder made it in. The "real hoses were deployed elswhere out of sight. The line you see was for the propane fires we had (3 total). The closes major road was around 1 mile away.
KJB322 3 years ago
Made quick work of the fire after the lines were set
JPOC226 3 years ago
What's up with the water pressure - or lack thereof?
MettaFireRescue 3 years ago
it was more of a lack of water. the clip probably never showed this but the dwelling was on top of a small but problematic hill. elevation and friction loss.
the nearest hydrant was at the technical school about 1 1/2 miles away and they had about 5 tankers shuttling water into valley forge's portable tank.
killerlarryusmc 3 years ago
Understood. Nice video.
MettaFireRescue 3 years ago
we really should've had a relay pumper set up at about 1000 ft to help fight the friction loss and they should've had the tanker closer to the main road because they had to back in the tankers and that was very time consuming, from what i understand.
killerlarryusmc 3 years ago
of course, i wouldn't know too much about the tanker situation. just going off of what i heard from the guys that were down the hill at the port-a-pond/pumper.
it's unfortunate that we lost the house but we had to take up a defensive posture because of how far off the fire was.
killerlarryusmc 3 years ago
Great Video!
firemen47 3 years ago